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PrincessP
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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

I was thinking the other stereotype that debg was mentioning was when the other woman stated she realized it was safe bc her friend lived there with a white thin english boy...the poster never stated that race was her problem...

Posted 7/9/06 6:01 PM
 
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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

Posted by PrincessP

I was thinking the other stereotype that debg was mentioning was when the other woman stated she realized it was safe bc her friend lived there with a white thin english boy...the poster never stated that race was her problem...



where is thatChat Icon

i totally missed it....and possibly others like myself did as well


Posted 7/9/06 6:04 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

Posted by PrincessP

I was thinking the other stereotype that debg was mentioning was when the other woman stated she realized it was safe bc her friend lived there with a white thin english boy...the poster never stated that race was her problem...



I thought it was the photos of the love machine from Harlem that I posted.Chat Icon

Posted 7/9/06 6:04 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

Posted by Redhead

Posted by PrincessP

I was thinking the other stereotype that debg was mentioning was when the other woman stated she realized it was safe bc her friend lived there with a white thin english boy...the poster never stated that race was her problem...



where is thatChat Icon

i totally missed it....and possibly others like myself did as well





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Posted 7/9/06 6:05 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

Posted by PrincessP

I was thinking the other stereotype that debg was mentioning was when the other woman stated she realized it was safe bc her friend lived there with a white thin english boy...the poster never stated that race was her problem...



No ma'am. It is not that post.

Posted 7/9/06 6:06 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

ok well...i guess i don't see the other comment and if it is in that long azz reponse....well i didn't bother to read it.

In fact i really didn't read most of the responses...

I have been there myself....so i really didn't need to read what others had to sayChat Icon

Posted 7/9/06 6:11 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

Posted by DebG

I find it more interesting that no one jumped on the second ignorant/sterotypical comment on that thread. Why is one sterotype ok while the other is not????
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Was that the post that mentioned Queens/Brroklyn, and parts of LI were worse than Harlem?

Posted 7/9/06 7:47 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

regi, i LOVE the pic of big VIS on the thread Chat Icon

Posted 7/9/06 8:07 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

I thought it "could" have been that one too but by time your post was done the thread was already crazy so I thought yours became light humor and wasnt offensive but thats JMO

Posted 7/9/06 8:28 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

Posted by DebG

I find it more interesting that no one jumped on the second ignorant/sterotypical comment on that thread. Why is one sterotype ok while the other is not????
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I assume you meant the stereotype of LI girls, right?

The OP is obviously ignorant and set in her ways. I doubt any amount of education about the area will change her mind. Her "bad" experience there reinforced her views and fears about Harlem.

Posted 7/10/06 10:08 AM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

I think we should keep what's on LIF, to LIF and vice versa. Or else, we'll go nuts trying to figure out kooks all over da place!

Posted 7/10/06 10:12 AM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

I honestly don't think this girl meant any harm I just think she has not been exposed to many things or areas outside of her own....but Lolita not for nothing you are going above and beyond.. you make references to LI as if it is stuck up like OMG ... I was raised in queens moved to LI and now I am back in queens and to be honest I have a lot of street smarts....and At Night (like she said ) I would still not want to go there on my OWN .... I know it is being rebuilt and I am happy but the fact is there is still crime there and she is afraid to go .. whats the big deal, she was asking what we would do, not what you think of her rationale..and I know you live in williamsburgh but compare the crime rate ... you area is no where even close to it ..I am surprised at your attacking .. you IMO went off the deep end with this one ....

Posted 7/10/06 10:23 AM
 

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Posted by unbelievable

I honestly don't think this girl meant any harm I just think she has not been exposed to many things or areas outside of her own....but Lolita not for nothing you are going above and beyond.. you make references to LI as if it is stuck up like OMG ... I was raised in queens moved to LI and now I am back in queens and to be honest I have a lot of street smarts....and At Night (like she said ) I would still not want to go there on my OWN .... I know it is being rebuilt and I am happy but the fact is there is still crime there and she is afraid to go .. whats the big deal, she was asking what we would do, not what you think of her rationale..and I know you live in williamsburgh but compare the crime rate ... you area is no where even close to it ..I am surprised at your attacking .. you IMO went off the deep end with this one ....



Well said, I agree

Posted 7/10/06 10:26 AM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

Posted by Snozberry

Jes, Chat Icon on the SUV/fake tan/WW mall comment. Seriously Chat Icon




Chat Icon Hey, I'm from Huntington, and I almost never get fake tans!

I kid, I kid.....
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Posted 7/10/06 11:04 AM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

unbelievable.... i neve acted as if LI was stuck up.... but i think SHE is. its as if she thinks she is better ofr living in LI. hence her thread title "LI girl in Harlem???"Chat Icon
eta: you dont think she intended harm... thats fine, when i saw her op i was going to give her some nice advice, then i saw that ppl were tryingt o do just that and she attacked THEM.




and to everyone whos wondering what DebG is talking about, im sure its my comment about getting in her suv and so forth.
not stereotyping LI Deb, just the type of person she comes off as. and many ppl thought it was funny anyway. as they should, it was all in good fun.

Message edited 7/10/2006 12:15:24 PM.

Posted 7/10/06 12:13 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

She did say "LI girl" in Harlem.... it automatically made a separation for herself and put ehrself into some stupid category, like an "Li girl" doesn't belong in harlem or something.

And I think by making her "PC" comments, she was bringing race into it.

She's ignorant, and as someone else said she wants to STAY ignorant, and I really think her post and the way she worded it and the way she responded to people only stereotyped herself.

Posted 7/10/06 12:21 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

i agree....

jenn, i really liked your post though. Chat Icon

Posted 7/10/06 12:23 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

Posted by Lolita4Life

unbelievable.... i neve acted as if LI was stuck up.... but i think SHE is. its as if she thinks she is better ofr living in LI. hence her thread title "LI girl in Harlem???"Chat Icon
eta: you dont think she intended harm... thats fine, when i saw her op i was going to give her some nice advice, then i saw that ppl were tryingt o do just that and she attacked THEM.




and to everyone whos wondering what DebG is talking about, im sure its my comment about getting in her suv and so forth.
not stereotyping LI Deb, just the type of person she comes off as. and many ppl thought it was funny anyway. as they should, it was all in good fun.



Well To be honest the next poster kind of ripped into her thus making her defensive .. but I think Her Saying LI girl meant or was implying she is not street savy why would she be that, it seems she lives a sheletered life but in no way do I think she was speaking about race but more less the crime factor. I have been on 168th street it scared the christ out of me ... it is a little rough .IMO but I wouldn't descriminate going if I had to or my friend lived there. And I have also been on the reverse side there and have been called deragatory racial slurs so I think more a less it's a matter of what you are comfprtable with!

Posted 7/10/06 12:33 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

Posted by unbelievable

Well To be honest the next poster kind of ripped into her thus making her defensive .. but I think Her Saying LI girl meant or was implying she is not street savy why would she be that, it seems she lives a sheletered life but in no way do I think she was speaking about race but more less the crime factor. I have been on 168th street it scared the christ out of me ... it is a little rough .IMO but I wouldn't descriminate going if I had to or my friend lived there. And I have also been on the reverse side there and have been called deragatory racial slurs so I think more a less it's a matter of what you are comfprtable with!



Saying she was from LI IMO wasnt her way of saying shes not street smart. if thats what she wanted to say, she could have said just that.
Not to mention everytime she said "harlem" it was "HARLEM".
It was the way she went about it. Setitng herself apart from her friend in Harlem, and using LI as the thing that made her better. This is the way I (and others) percieved her thread.
She has two choices: go or not go.
She didnt have to make a whole thread on how bad Harlem was. she could have said her friend lived in a sketchy part of the city.
JMHO

Posted 7/10/06 12:38 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

I mean, if you're afraid, you're afraid. I'm having FH come with me tonight so I don't have to come home alone late at night. If it were a Friday or something, I'd do it myself, because there would be people on the trains. But I don't want to be anywhere desolate alone at night.

But what burns me, is, I mean, she's judging it by the name, and her friend lives there. because she's a "LI girl", it's good enough for her friend, but not for her? Would ehr friend have her walking through a crack den? It's like "well my friend is there, all the time, every day and she lives there, but I can't bring my delicate self over there."

It burns me a lot, because as I mentioned on one of the threads, I went to private school in LI for one year in 8th grade and it was complete culture shock for me on many levels. I remeber we had a basketball game at kew forest HS, which is in queens, and not a bad area at all, and the girs were afriad to get out of the bus. Literally afraid. I was like "Are you kidding, my grandma lives near here". And they kept making these comments about how they didn't want to get shot, etc. I was really offended. And when I had a party at my house, a lot of the kids made comments about being afraid of it. I know, they were in 8th grade, but whatever. In college one kid, who was like 25 at the time was like "I was born in the ghetto before we moved to LI"... Someone asked him where he lived, and he was like "Ozone Park" I was like "ummm..I don't live in 'the ghetto'". It really bothers me. I think I live in a decent neighborhood. And a lot of "bad" neighborhoods are just filled with decent hardworking people. Maybe they can't afford a benz, or something, but most people are decent, and that matters more.

Posted 7/10/06 12:39 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

Posted by unbelievable

Posted by Lolita4Life

unbelievable.... i neve acted as if LI was stuck up.... but i think SHE is. its as if she thinks she is better ofr living in LI. hence her thread title "LI girl in Harlem???"Chat Icon
eta: you dont think she intended harm... thats fine, when i saw her op i was going to give her some nice advice, then i saw that ppl were tryingt o do just that and she attacked THEM.




and to everyone whos wondering what DebG is talking about, im sure its my comment about getting in her suv and so forth.
not stereotyping LI Deb, just the type of person she comes off as. and many ppl thought it was funny anyway. as they should, it was all in good fun.



Well To be honest the next poster kind of ripped into her thus making her defensive .. but I think Her Saying LI girl meant or was implying she is not street savy why would she be that, it seems she lives a sheletered life but in no way do I think she was speaking about race but more less the crime factor. I have been on 168th street it scared the christ out of me ... it is a little rough .IMO but I wouldn't descriminate going if I had to or my friend lived there. And I have also been on the reverse side there and have been called deragatory racial slurs so I think more a less it's a matter of what you are comfprtable with!




IMO, when discussing being afraid to go to Harlem it is only natural for people to assume that race is part of the issue. It is a fact that Harlem is a prodomianately African American area. Where as it is a rumor that Harlem is the part of the city where gangs roam the streets shooting at people and the homeless crowd the area. There are areas of Harlem that are rough, but there are areas of Chelsea, the West Villiage, the East Village etc. that are rough. Harlem just has a bad rap and I wish more people would give it a chance.

Just FYI, 168 Street is Washington Heights not Harlem.

Posted 7/10/06 12:40 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

well said

Posted 7/10/06 12:43 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

Posted by unbelievable

I honestly don't think this girl meant any harm I just think she has not been exposed to many things or areas outside of her own.....



I agree- and admitt- that I think if I went there, and had things yelled at me, I might be a little scared to go back....Actually I could go to any bad area on LI too, if I dont feel safe- I might not return....Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 7/10/06 12:44 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

people yell things EVERYWHERE though! ive NEVER been to ONE place in my whole life where ppl didnt say/yell thigns to girls.

Posted 7/10/06 12:45 PM
 

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Re: So I See the Reason Not Too Many Post ON LIW Anymore....

I think the fact that it was HARLEM, not Harlem, and she kept saying LI girl and PC made it more than just normal concern

Posted 7/10/06 12:45 PM
 
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