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MsMBV
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
and it's real convenient that the people who hate Bush are bashing him over this
they'll find any reason
not saying he's right or wrong, but it's silly to bash him without fact
no offense, but I think there is plenty of evidence that will demonstrate that Bush is not a strong leader, and he did not act in the best interest of those effected, nor did he take responsibility.
For example, he was on CNN last night & claimed to have not known about Michael Brown retiring after the new head of FEMA was already appointed. (the infamous Duct Tape man) Regardless of what he knew and did not, he is not one to accept responsibility or accountability for his actions.
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Bush didn't make them poor but Bush has the power and authority to send help to these people sooner than it was done. Regardless of race the delay was just ridiculous. Maybe race is the easy way to get their frustations onto someone else, onto our government.
Message edited 9/13/2005 11:57:14 AM.
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MrsJ
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
all i am saying is that it is logical to want answers to why this happened
and we will never know
but people are looking for the easy answers to this when there are none there. It's easy to blame Bush, it's easy to pull the race card, but we will never know and I think it's not in our best interest to make such assumptions.
I agree - they are looking for easy answers and looking for someone to blame.
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by Colleen9304
Posted by kelleherkm
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
they have a right to feel however they want
i just think that it is an easy cop out on their part to pull the race card
That's what Im saying.
Why didnt any of the young healthy strong people in the Superdome get off their a$$es and go out and help resuce their fellow people?
Weren't they told to stay put? What could they have done that our government wasn't doing - b/c they "couldn't"?
They didn't stay put - they were out lootibng or finding or what ever they want to call it. They were outside the dome, inside the dome, all over the place.
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by Lolita4Life
Posted by kelleherkm
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
they have a right to feel however they want
i just think that it is an easy cop out on their part to pull the race card
That's what Im saying.
Why didnt any of the young healthy strong people in the Superdome get off their a$$es and go out and help resuce their fellow people?
i agree withthis 110% to. they complain, but dont do anythign to help the situation
SORRY but who are you or any to criticize what the "healthy people" did or didn't do..
We werent' there....
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by Colleen9304
Posted by kelleherkm
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
they have a right to feel however they want
i just think that it is an easy cop out on their part to pull the race card
That's what Im saying.
Why didnt any of the young healthy strong people in the Superdome get off their a$$es and go out and help resuce their fellow people?
Weren't they told to stay put? What could they have done that our government wasn't doing - b/c they "couldn't"?
They could have listened to the warnings about the levees that have been pressed for the past umteen years. They could have had a better evacuation plan. They could have had more foresight & less hindsight. There was a *Pre-Emergency* state declared the day before it hit, but yet there was no action or planning to back it up.
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by LadyLainez
Bush didn't make them poor but Bush has the power and authority to send help to these people sooner than it was done. Regardless of race the delay was just ridiculous. Maybe race is the easy way to get their frustations onto someone else, onto our government.
i agree
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Redhead
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
and it's real convenient that the people who hate Bush are bashing him over this
they'll find any reason
not saying he's right or wrong, but it's silly to bash him without fact
well i think he gave them a good reason to bash him this time...
I do agree that response time was slow...
WHY this occured i don't know
agreed, BUT, what about the local officials
IMO a LOT of people F*CKED this one up....NOT just Bush....
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by LadyLainez
Bush didn't make them poor but Bush has the power and authority to send help to these people sooner than it was done. Regardless of race the delay was just ridiculous. Maybe race is the easy way to get their frustations onto someone else, onto our government.
Why is everyone so quick to blame Bush? I am not 100% a Bush supporter but there is a chain of command. There are people under Bush who perhaps did not do what they should have done right away - there is a chain of command. Bush is not the go to person as soon as a disaster strikes.
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Jesaroo
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
i am just saying if they put enough energy into helping people as they dop in raping people and causing riots, tehn maybe alittle more would get done.
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LadyMaravilla
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
They could have listened to the warnings about the levees that have been pressed for the past umteen years. They could have had a better evacuation plan. They could have had more foresight & less hindsight. There was a *Pre-Emergency* state declared the day before it hit, but yet there was no action or planning to back it up.
EXACTLY!
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by kelleherkm
They didn't stay put - they were out lootibng or finding or what ever they want to call it. They were outside the dome, inside the dome, all over the place.
I think we can all agree that there was a lot of sensationalistic "journalism" wrt the reporting that was being done.
Being on the grounds of the dome constitutes being at the dome, imo...I don't think, once at the dome, people were allowed to come and go as they pleased. A lot of them had family they couldn't find - I don't think they were interested in anything but getting to family, a shower and some food...and rightfully so, imo.
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by Lolita4Life
i am just saying if they put enough energy into helping people as they dop in raping people and causing riots, tehn maybe alittle more would get done.
I agree, people should have been out there helping out other people. If they are well enough to riot, rape and "find" then they are well enough to assist in evauations.
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june262004
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Its not bush's fault this happened. I just blame bush for not cutting his vacation short and going.
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by kelleherkm
Posted by LadyLainez
Bush didn't make them poor but Bush has the power and authority to send help to these people sooner than it was done. Regardless of race the delay was just ridiculous. Maybe race is the easy way to get their frustations onto someone else, onto our government.
Why is everyone so quick to blame Bush? I am not 100% a Bush supporter but there is a chain of command. There are people under Bush who perhaps did not do what they should have done right away - there is a chain of command. Bush is not the go to person as soon as a disaster strikes.
Um, he kind of is....he is the commander-in cheif. He is the one to call before any plans of deployment for troops or federal officals are followed.
Other people are definitely to blame too, but Bush is not out of the equation here either. Michael Brown was caught with his pants down, unfortunately his incompetence made this a very very deadly and tragic storm.
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by Redhead
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
and it's real convenient that the people who hate Bush are bashing him over this
they'll find any reason
not saying he's right or wrong, but it's silly to bash him without fact
well i think he gave them a good reason to bash him this time...
I do agree that response time was slow...
WHY this occured i don't know
agreed, BUT, what about the local officials
IMO a LOT of people F*CKED this one up....NOT just Bush....
agreed 100%, but it just seems everyone JUST wants to blame Bush
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Redhead
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by Lolita4Life
i am just saying if they put enough energy into helping people as they dop in raping people and causing riots, tehn maybe alittle more would get done.
Jess....but you have to understand
these people were not only given no real help to start off...BY THEIR OWN MAYOR AND GOVENOR...
They are poor, uneducated people....who were put in a terrible situation of complete chaos...
again you are still proving my point that this sad situation was more an issue of POVERTY
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LadyMaravilla
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Why is everyone so quick to blame Bush? I am not 100% a Bush supporter but there is a chain of command. There are people under Bush who perhaps did not do what they should have done right away - there is a chain of command. Bush is not the go to person as soon as a disaster strikes.
I understand that so the government F'd up & Bush as the leader of our nation could have handled the situation in a differnt way. I'm not saying that he could have gone there the next day to show people his support, no of course not but what the heck took so long to get food there??? Water...help ingeneral. When the US sends food to other coutries we send in planes to do food drops....why wasn' that done? Those pepople on the highway waiting there for days??? Where was the help there???
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by MsMBV
They could have listened to the warnings about the levees that have been pressed for the past umteen years. They could have had a better evacuation plan. They could have had more foresight & less hindsight. There was a *Pre-Emergency* state declared the day before it hit, but yet there was no action or planning to back it up.
Now you're talking about what the government and local officials SHOULD HAVE DONE - not the citizens.
The government cut millions of dollars in LA that was to go towards strengthening the levee's and evacuation plans, etc. There are A LOT of people to blame in this scenario...however I'd rather see resolution ans solutions before finger-pointing.
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MrsJ
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by Redhead
Posted by Lolita4Life
Posted by kelleherkm
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
they have a right to feel however they want
i just think that it is an easy cop out on their part to pull the race card
That's what Im saying.
Why didnt any of the young healthy strong people in the Superdome get off their a$$es and go out and help resuce their fellow people?
i agree withthis 110% to. they complain, but dont do anythign to help the situation
SORRY but who are you or any to criticize what the "healthy people" did or didn't do..
We werent' there....
You know that there were young and healthy people there - you saw them on TV - yelling and complaining or just sitting around. Why didnt they get up and get out there and help?
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Jesaroo
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
so i guess it makes it ok that htey are raping people and causing riots?
just cause they are poor doesnt mean they have to act like savages.
i am sure there are plenty of them (poor) helping out others.
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by LadyLainez
Why is everyone so quick to blame Bush? I am not 100% a Bush supporter but there is a chain of command. There are people under Bush who perhaps did not do what they should have done right away - there is a chain of command. Bush is not the go to person as soon as a disaster strikes.
I understand that so the government F'd up & Bush as the leader of our nation could have handled the situation in a differnt way. I'm not saying that he could have gone there the next day to show people his support, no of course not but what the heck took so long to get food there??? Water...help ingeneral. When the US sends food to other coutried we send in planes to do food drops....why wasn' that done? Those epople on the highway waiting there for days??? Where was the help there???
Thank you. We responded to the Tsunami disaster faster than the NO/Biloxi/Mobile floods. I wonder how that is even possible???
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by LadyLainez
Why is everyone so quick to blame Bush? I am not 100% a Bush supporter but there is a chain of command. There are people under Bush who perhaps did not do what they should have done right away - there is a chain of command. Bush is not the go to person as soon as a disaster strikes.
I understand that so the government F'd up & Bush as the leader of our nation could have handled the situation in a differnt way. I'm not saying that he could have gone there the next day to show people his support, no of course not but what the heck took so long to get food there??? Water...help ingeneral. When the US sends food to other coutried we send in planes to do food drops....why wasn' that done? Those epople on the highway waiting there for days??? Where was the help there???
It was a mess - the ball was dropped many times....there was no plan in effect and seems like no one knew what to do. People were all over with no help, I agree. I cant tell you waht the heck happened but it was bad! My point was just that this wasnt based on race...
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by kelleherkm
Posted by Redhead
Posted by Lolita4Life
Posted by kelleherkm
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
they have a right to feel however they want
i just think that it is an easy cop out on their part to pull the race card
That's what Im saying.
Why didnt any of the young healthy strong people in the Superdome get off their a$$es and go out and help resuce their fellow people?
i agree withthis 110% to. they complain, but dont do anythign to help the situation
SORRY but who are you or any to criticize what the "healthy people" did or didn't do..
We werent' there....
You know that there were young and healthy people there - you saw them on TV - yelling and complaining or just sitting around. Why didnt they get up and get out there and help?
There were armed men & women keeping them from returning
ETA: I don't know how much was covered here (I was in FLA at the time & the news there was very differnent than the national news), but the day after the storm they showed people approaching officals to help, they showed people trying lift eachother onto roof tops, and they showed people taking turns standing in line (before raiding started) to try & get supplies. Then the *looting* began. The very next day, they showed a bunch of people - civilians - standing on the airstrip in LA/NO with semi-automatic and automatic rifles they had raided from a store. The people took it upon themselves to become militia and were threatening to shoot down supply planes to steal the supplies. This delayed the rescue & help.
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Redhead
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Re: CNN Poll: 6 in 10 blacks said race played a part in the delay of rescuing people in NO
Posted by kelleherkm
You know that there were young and healthy people there - you saw them on TV - yelling and complaining or just sitting around. Why didnt they get up and get out there and help?
I didn't say there weren't any of them there...
But i dont' think you or i can imagine what they have been through....and to criticize them is wrong imo.
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