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MrsT809
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Acting AG fired
We are so screwed.
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Posted 1/30/17 9:25 PM  |
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kimchee
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Re: Acting AG fired
Outrageous! If the Rebpublicans have any ballz now, they will condemn this and start the impeachment process. This isn't some reality TV show! People's lives are at stake here!
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| Posted 1/30/17 9:28 PM |
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RainyDay
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Acting AG fired
He's a tyrant. He forgets this isn't the boardroom
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| Posted 1/30/17 9:33 PM |
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mnmsoinlove
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Re: Acting AG fired
What a ******* nightmare! If you disagree with this adminstration you are a traitor and are fired. Is Congress seriously going to sit by and watch this happen time and time again?
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| Posted 1/30/17 9:34 PM |
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Jenn79
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Re: Acting AG fired
Posted by kimchee
Outrageous! If the Rebpublicans have any ballz now, they will condemn this and start the impeachment process. This isn't some reality TV show! People's lives are at stake here!
Serious question. What could they impeach him on? Is that even possible? Has he done anything yet that would seriously qualify? I'm hoping we see that day soon, but I never really thought it would happen.
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| Posted 1/30/17 9:38 PM |
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2BadSoSad
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Re: Acting AG fired
this is tyranny! this is not governing a democracy.
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| Posted 1/30/17 9:40 PM |
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Mill188
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Re: Acting AG fired
The AG serves the president and enforces the law of the land. Right now the ban is the law of the land. For her to say she wasn't going to defend the law of the land is insubordination.
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| Posted 1/30/17 9:45 PM |
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mrsrainbow
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Re: Acting AG fired
Posted by Mill188
The AG serves the president and enforces the law of the land. Right now the ban is the law of the land. For her to say she wasn't going to defend the law of the land is insubordination.
Well I support the fact that the AG condemned something son unconscionable and immoral. Law of the land doesn't make it right in any sense. This mentality is why people say Trump supporters are sheep, blindly following his orders without question.
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| Posted 1/30/17 9:48 PM |
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Mill188
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Re: Acting AG fired
It is the job of the AG. They don't get to pick and choose. If you or I did that at work we would be fired too.
Let's pretend she was called upon to defend Roe v Wade and decided she wasn't going to. Most of us would be horrified, but because it's the ban people are saying it was a bad firing.
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| Posted 1/30/17 9:52 PM |
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Posted by Mill188
The AG serves the president and enforces the law of the land. Right now the ban is the law of the land. For her to say she wasn't going to defend the law of the land is insubordination.
This was her comment:
Trump fired acting Attorney General Sally Yates, an Obama administration holdover, after she said in a message to staff on Monday that the president’s order was not consistent with the Justice Department’s “solemn obligation to always seek justice and stand for what is right.” She added that, “I am not convinced that the defense of the Executive Order is consistent with these responsibilities nor am I convinced that the Executive Order is lawful.”
She was doing her job, Trump, well Bannon, doesn't like it so she got fired. If we are going to be unable to question anything his higness says or does we are being denied our rights.
So basically America just took it up the ass, again. And will keep taking it up the ass until these maniacs are gone.
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| Posted 1/30/17 9:53 PM |
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alli3131
Peanut is here!!!!!!
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Re: Acting AG fired
Posted by Mill188
The AG serves the president and enforces the law of the land. Right now the ban is the law of the land. For her to say she wasn't going to defend the law of the land is insubordination.
The AG does not serve the president. The AG serves the people. The job is to uphold the laws. If the administration had vetted the EOnthrough the judicial department like a normal administration the would not have happened.
She was fully within her right in the office.
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| Posted 1/30/17 9:57 PM |
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Mill188
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Re: Acting AG fired
Except that it is not AG's job to decide what is lawful. That is the job of the Supreme Court.
In the end this is another let's make a huge deal over something small - she was losing her job anyway. She is an Obama appointee. The present administration wasn't keeping her so this really is a moot point.
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| Posted 1/30/17 9:58 PM |
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It does not sound like she was insubordinate. It sounded like she was going to do what they didn't which was to vet the law. Trump is too stupid to realize it's not something you can do in 10 minutes.
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| Posted 1/30/17 9:59 PM |
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mrsrainbow
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Re: Acting AG fired
Posted by Mill188
Except that it is not AG's job to decide what is lawful. That is the job of the Supreme Court.
In the end this is another let's make a huge deal over something small - she was losing her job anyway. She is an Obama appointee. The present administration wasn't keeping her so this really is a moot point.
I feel like you don't like when people give a different opinion. You just want people to shut up.
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| Posted 1/30/17 10:01 PM |
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Posted by Mill188
Except that it is not AG's job to decide what is lawful. That is the job of the Supreme Court.
In the end this is another let's make a huge deal over something small - she was losing her job anyway. She is an Obama appointee. The present administration wasn't keeping her so this really is a moot point.
If we don't scrutinize and question everything that this administration does we will all be complicit in our own demise. Nothing they do is small. Nothing.
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| Posted 1/30/17 10:02 PM |
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MrsS2005
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Re: Acting AG fired
Posted by Mill188
Except that it is not AG's job to decide what is lawful. That is the job of the Supreme Court.
In the end this is another let's make a huge deal over something small - she was losing her job anyway. She is an Obama appointee. The present administration wasn't keeping her so this really is a moot point.
It is the AG's job to provide opinions on whether something is lawful. It sounds like the AG was interpreting the EO and whether or not it was enforceable, which is part of her job. Trump and his circle may not like her opinion and they can remove her, but she was doing exactly what she was supposed to be doing as AG.
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| Posted 1/30/17 10:17 PM |
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Mill188
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Re: Acting AG fired
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Mill188
Except that it is not AG's job to decide what is lawful. That is the job of the Supreme Court.
In the end this is another let's make a huge deal over something small - she was losing her job anyway. She is an Obama appointee. The present administration wasn't keeping her so this really is a moot point.
I feel like you don't like when people give a different opinion. You just want people to shut up.
Not at all. You can have any opinion you want. I don't have the same one. The truth is she was going to lose her job. Kudos to her for speaking out but in the end it doesn't mean anything. They weren't keeping her. I would be more impressed if an actual trump appointee had the balls to stand up to him but it hasn't happened. It's just another non-story that is made into a huge deal.
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| Posted 1/30/17 10:22 PM |
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KarenK122
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Acting AG fired
The AG is a cabinet position and picked by the President. This was just an acting one waiting for Sessions to get approved by the Senate. The acting AG was a democratic pick from Obama so it is no surprise she was let go since she is not on board with anything Trump is doing regardless of the immigration issue.
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| Posted 1/30/17 10:25 PM |
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LIRascal
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Re: Acting AG fired
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Posted by Mill188
Except that it is not AG's job to decide what is lawful. That is the job of the Supreme Court.
In the end this is another let's make a huge deal over something small - she was losing her job anyway. She is an Obama appointee. The present administration wasn't keeping her so this really is a moot point.
If we don't scrutinize and question everything that this administration does we will all be complicit in our own demise. Nothing they do is small. Nothing.
We will come out in full force for every miniscule thing that is done and presented by this effing joke of an administration.
Not letting up. Everyone needs to get used to it. It rages in our blood like a monster that needs to get out.... not exaggerating or being overly dramatic. Just an innate need to perform our civic duty and stand up for social justice. 
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| Posted 1/30/17 10:38 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Acting AG fired
Posted by LIRascal
Posted by BaseballWidow
Posted by Mill188
Except that it is not AG's job to decide what is lawful. That is the job of the Supreme Court.
In the end this is another let's make a huge deal over something small - she was losing her job anyway. She is an Obama appointee. The present administration wasn't keeping her so this really is a moot point.
If we don't scrutinize and question everything that this administration does we will all be complicit in our own demise. Nothing they do is small. Nothing.
We will come out in full force for every miniscule thing that is done and presented by this effing joke of an administration.
Not letting up. Everyone needs to get used to it. It rages in our blood like a monster that needs to get out.... not exaggerating or being overly dramatic. Just an innate need to perform our civic duty and stand up for social justice.
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| Posted 1/30/17 11:13 PM |
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ElizaRags35
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Acting AG fired
He's a motherflucking tyrant.
Message edited 1/30/2017 11:18:21 PM.
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| Posted 1/30/17 11:18 PM |
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mrsrainbow
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Re: Acting AG fired
Posted by Mill188
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Mill188
Except that it is not AG's job to decide what is lawful. That is the job of the Supreme Court.
In the end this is another let's make a huge deal over something small - she was losing her job anyway. She is an Obama appointee. The present administration wasn't keeping her so this really is a moot point.
I feel like you don't like when people give a different opinion. You just want people to shut up.
Not at all. You can have any opinion you want. I don't have the same one. The truth is she was going to lose her job. Kudos to her for speaking out but in the end it doesn't mean anything. They weren't keeping her. I would be more impressed if an actual trump appointee had the balls to stand up to him but it hasn't happened. It's just another non-story that is made into a huge deal.
Her job is to uphold the Constitution, she serves the American people.
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| Posted 1/30/17 11:20 PM |
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ElizaRags35
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Acting AG fired
Her letter to the justice department:
On January 27, 2017, the President signed an Executive Order regarding immigrants and refugees from certain Muslim-majority countries. The order has now been challenged in a number of jurisdictions. As the Acting Attorney General, it is my ultimate responsibility to determine the position of the Department of Justice in these actions.
My role is different from that of the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC), which, through administrations of both parties, has reviewed Executive Orders for form and legality before they are issued. OLC’s review is limited to the narrow question of whether, in OLC’s view, a proposed Executive Order is lawful on its face and properly drafted. Its review does not take account of statements made by an administration or it surrogates close in time to the issuance of an Executive Order that may bear on the order’s purpose. And importantly, it does not address whether any policy choice embodied in an Executive Order is wise or just.
Similarly, in litigation, DOJ Civil Division lawyers are charged with advancing reasonable legal arguments that can be made supporting an Executive Order. But my role as leader of this institution is different and broader. My responsibility is to ensure that the position of the Department of Justice is not only legally defensible, but is informed by our best view of what the law is after consideration of all the facts. In addition, I am responsible for ensuring that the positions we take in court remain consistent with this institution’s solemn obligation to always seek justice and stand for what is right. At present, I am not convinced that the defense of the Executive Order is consistent with these responsibilities nor am I convinced that the Executive Order is lawful.
Consequently, for as long as I am the Acting Attorney General, the Department of Justice will not present arguments in defense of the Executive Order, unless and until I become convinced that it is appropriate to do so.
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stinger
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Re: Acting AG fired
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Mill188
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Posted by Mill188
Except that it is not AG's job to decide what is lawful. That is the job of the Supreme Court.
In the end this is another let's make a huge deal over something small - she was losing her job anyway. She is an Obama appointee. The present administration wasn't keeping her so this really is a moot point.
I feel like you don't like when people give a different opinion. You just want people to shut up.
Not at all. You can have any opinion you want. I don't have the same one. The truth is she was going to lose her job. Kudos to her for speaking out but in the end it doesn't mean anything. They weren't keeping her. I would be more impressed if an actual trump appointee had the balls to stand up to him but it hasn't happened. It's just another non-story that is made into a huge deal.
Her job is to uphold the Constitution, she serves the American people.
They dont want anyone disagreeing with them. This is the real danger
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| Posted 1/31/17 6:08 AM |
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MrsT809
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Re: Acting AG fired
Sessions actually sat on the committee the confirmed Yates and questioned her specifically about whether she would stand up to the president on something she found unlawful.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/sally-yates-jeff-sessions-video-2015-confirmation-hearing-2017-1?client=ms-android-verizon
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