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Hofstra26
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Disgusting how? How are they different then any other business in the world? Every business, every store, every company................they ALL revolve around the dollar. That's how it goes. They didn't do anything blatantly negligent here let alone do it for money reasons.
There is always the *possibility* of a gator making its way into ANY body of water in FL. Any of them. But lakes are still open and unprotected everywhere across the state, there aren't signs near every body of water or ropes keeping people away. I lived on a man made lake in FL, there was a chance a gator could've made it's way over into it but people in the community still sat along the lake, walked around the lake, and had picnics around the lake. If a gator attacked someone by some random chance would my complex now have been liable?
We live among wildlife, Disney is built in and around swampy FL water...........even despite their BEST efforts a gator could make its way in. But again, in their 40+ plus years of operation it's never been an issue. I would say given their surroundings, they've done a good enough job keeping the public safe. And now, in light of this accident, they will do that much better to make sure it never happens again.
I just don't think anyone is to blame here, it was a freak accident. Wrong place, wrong time. It could've happened to me sitting by my non-Disney lake when I was living down there. It's just an unfortunate accident.
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We all know you have an extreme hate for Disney for whatever reason. But like the PP said, they are no different than any other business. Although I don't think they are greedy at all. I don't know that the alligator signs not being displayed were because people would be turned off. I wouldn't be. I would just know not to stick my feet in the water. We stay at a very nice resort in Orlando often and they have signs, which absolutely don't deter anyone.
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Posted by Hofstra26
Disgusting how? How are they different then any other business in the world? Every business, every store, every company................they ALL revolve around the dollar. That's how it goes. They didn't do anything blatantly negligent here let alone do it for money reasons.
There is always the *possibility* of a gator making its way into ANY body of water in FL. Any of them. But lakes are still open and unprotected everywhere across the state, there aren't signs near every body of water or ropes keeping people away. I lived on a man made lake in FL, there was a chance a gator could've made it's way over into it but people in the community still sat along the lake, walked around the lake, and had picnics around the lake. If a gator attacked someone by some random chance would my complex now have been liable?
We live among wildlife, Disney is built in and around swampy FL water...........even despite their BEST efforts a gator could make its way in. But again, in their 40+ plus years of operation it's never been an issue. I would say given their surroundings, they've done a good enough job keeping the public safe. And now, in light of this accident, they will do that much better to make sure it never happens again.
I just don't think anyone is to blame here, it was a freak accident. Wrong place, wrong time. It could've happened to me sitting by my non-Disney lake when I was living down there. It's just an unfortunate accident.
Right. But you know this because you LIVED in Florida. People from all over the WORLD go to Disneyworld that wouldn't have a clue there are alligators in that water. Nobody is disputing this was a tragic accident. I don't fault Disney for having a beach theme. But there should have been a clearer warning sign plain and simple. My kids definitely put their feet in the water at Wilderness Lodge and I certainly didn't think no SWIMMING in any way equated to Dangerous Animals Lurking.
And from a business perspective, while it is purely speculation, there is a possibility of them knowing it may deter people knowing there were alligators there. I fully believe in capitalism but if this was in fact the case, it's simply unethical and negligent.
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Re: Alligator Attack in Disney
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The blaming of the parents AND of Disney - has to freakin stop!! STOP!!!
Disney is not to blame because a wild animal made it's way onto their property. They remove them as they find them, but we are very quick to forget that the animals lived here first, not us.
The parents are not to blame because their child was abducted by a wild animal right in front of them.
That instinct that so many people have to blame someone, anyone, somewhere - that's a product of this over litigious society, where there's always someone at fault and always someone to pay up for the damages.
I am quite sure Disney will be putting up MORE signs because someone always has to take the blame for everything, even a horrific accident like this one.
I am not blaming Disney for a wild animal making their way onto their property. Of course the animals were there first.
But those signs that they will be putting up more of now- why weren't they up from the start?
If a sign says, no swimming, I'd be less vigilant about my child wading in ankle deep than if a sign said- beware, alligators!
And why are they setting up beach scenes that attract people to the shores to sit, play, watch movies, etc, when they know that alligators can and do live in that water? And that you don't just have to be IN the water to get attacked.
They had to know the potential for disaster with that.
I don't believe in suing. I really don't. I am very very anti suing for every least little thing.
But in this case, I feel it was negligence on the part of the corporation.
I am not saying anyone should sue here, though I am sure they will. People sue for a lot less.
But Disney is NOT without fault here IMO
Except that they are without fault because in their entire history this has NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE which means it wasn't a foreseeable threat. This isn't like a piece of Disney property caused injury. This is a wild animal being a wild animal - not Disney's fault.
I mean come on, FLORIDA means sun, sand, beach!! It also means alligators! Should they roll up the shores in the entire state?
ETA: Disney is only negligent from here on out if they don't put up signs and it happens again, because NOW they have a reason to believe it is a foreseeable threat.
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I'm sorry but I think all the vitriol being thrown Disney's way is ridiculous. And like I said in my other post the Kasparov is on Disney's side.
I think it's funny how in the zoo/gorilla case people were outraged at the idea of the parents suing and in this case they are all for it. In actuality the reverse should be true. In the zoo case the animals were part of the attraction and it was the zoo's responsibility to make sure that attraction was completely safe.
In the Disney case, the alligator is part of the indigenous wildlife and Disney is no more responsible for this WILDlife than it is for any snakes, mosquitos, iguanas etc that it has no purposefully brought onto their property.
When you go the beach you know that sharks, stingrays etc are a possibility. There are no signs warning you of this but it is still a possibility. When you go to a park do they warn you that mosquitos may carry west Nile, a potentially deadly disease?
Disney removes the alligators to create a safer space but just because Disney creates a fantasy world doesn't mean you are actually in one. You are still outside and it is ridulous to assume that wildlife will be completely managed.
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Re: Alligator Attack in Disney
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Disgusting how? How are they different then any other business in the world? Every business, every store, every company................they ALL revolve around the dollar. That's how it goes. They didn't do anything blatantly negligent here let alone do it for money reasons.
There is always the *possibility* of a gator making its way into ANY body of water in FL. Any of them. But lakes are still open and unprotected everywhere across the state, there aren't signs near every body of water or ropes keeping people away. I lived on a man made lake in FL, there was a chance a gator could've made it's way over into it but people in the community still sat along the lake, walked around the lake, and had picnics around the lake. If a gator attacked someone by some random chance would my complex now have been liable?
We live among wildlife, Disney is built in and around swampy FL water...........even despite their BEST efforts a gator could make its way in. But again, in their 40+ plus years of operation it's never been an issue. I would say given their surroundings, they've done a good enough job keeping the public safe. And now, in light of this accident, they will do that much better to make sure it never happens again.
I just don't think anyone is to blame here, it was a freak accident. Wrong place, wrong time. It could've happened to me sitting by my non-Disney lake when I was living down there. It's just an unfortunate accident.
Right. But you know this because you LIVED in Florida. People from all over the WORLD go to Disneyworld that wouldn't have a clue there are alligators in that water. Nobody is disputing this was a tragic accident. I don't fault Disney for having a beach theme. But there should have been a clearer warning sign plain and simple. My kids definitely put their feet in the water at Wilderness Lodge and I certainly didn't think no SWIMMING in any way equated to Dangerous Animals Lurking.
And from a business perspective, while it is purely speculation, there is a possibility of them knowing it may deter people knowing there were alligators there. I fully believe in capitalism but if this was in fact the case, it's simply unethical and negligent.
I disagree with you. The standard for negligence is "the reasonable person" and I think the reasonable is aware that there are alligators all over Florida especially considering there have been several incidents this year all over Florida. Being on vacation is not an excuse for ignorance and we should haven't to protect people from all the I ignorance. Despite the alligator issue, that water looks gross and murky I would never let my kids out their feet in it because of potential bacteria. How many warning signs listing all the potential risks should there be? How far do we have to go to protect people from their own ignorance?
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Hofstra26
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Re: Alligator Attack in Disney
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Disgusting how? How are they different then any other business in the world? Every business, every store, every company................they ALL revolve around the dollar. That's how it goes. They didn't do anything blatantly negligent here let alone do it for money reasons.
There is always the *possibility* of a gator making its way into ANY body of water in FL. Any of them. But lakes are still open and unprotected everywhere across the state, there aren't signs near every body of water or ropes keeping people away. I lived on a man made lake in FL, there was a chance a gator could've made it's way over into it but people in the community still sat along the lake, walked around the lake, and had picnics around the lake. If a gator attacked someone by some random chance would my complex now have been liable?
We live among wildlife, Disney is built in and around swampy FL water...........even despite their BEST efforts a gator could make its way in. But again, in their 40+ plus years of operation it's never been an issue. I would say given their surroundings, they've done a good enough job keeping the public safe. And now, in light of this accident, they will do that much better to make sure it never happens again.
I just don't think anyone is to blame here, it was a freak accident. Wrong place, wrong time. It could've happened to me sitting by my non-Disney lake when I was living down there. It's just an unfortunate accident.
Right. But you know this because you LIVED in Florida. People from all over the WORLD go to Disneyworld that wouldn't have a clue there are alligators in that water. Nobody is disputing this was a tragic accident. I don't fault Disney for having a beach theme. But there should have been a clearer warning sign plain and simple. My kids definitely put their feet in the water at Wilderness Lodge and I certainly didn't think no SWIMMING in any way equated to Dangerous Animals Lurking.
And from a business perspective, while it is purely speculation, there is a possibility of them knowing it may deter people knowing there were alligators there. I fully believe in capitalism but if this was in fact the case, it's simply unethical and negligent.
I understand what you're saying. My assumption would be that they don't have alligator signs up everywhere because it's something they feel they are managing and don't consider to be a huge issue in their lagoon. I'm sure now, their signage will change and if it does, it wouldn't deter me from visiting Disney. Saying you would never go again because there might be a gator is no different then never going to a beach because there might be a shark, or never driving on the parkway because you might hit a deer, or never flying in a plane because you might die. Every time you step out the door, it's a risk. I don't think Disney was lacking alligator signs because of greed and capitalism, I think it's more because they didn't feel it was warranted for whatever reason. No doubt that will all change now.
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OMG I am hysterical now. She is 100000% right. What is wrong with moms nowadays?
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Posted by Hofstra26
Disgusting how? How are they different then any other business in the world? Every business, every store, every company................they ALL revolve around the dollar. That's how it goes. They didn't do anything blatantly negligent here let alone do it for money reasons.
There is always the *possibility* of a gator making its way into ANY body of water in FL. Any of them. But lakes are still open and unprotected everywhere across the state, there aren't signs near every body of water or ropes keeping people away. I lived on a man made lake in FL, there was a chance a gator could've made it's way over into it but people in the community still sat along the lake, walked around the lake, and had picnics around the lake. If a gator attacked someone by some random chance would my complex now have been liable?
We live among wildlife, Disney is built in and around swampy FL water...........even despite their BEST efforts a gator could make its way in. But again, in their 40+ plus years of operation it's never been an issue. I would say given their surroundings, they've done a good enough job keeping the public safe. And now, in light of this accident, they will do that much better to make sure it never happens again.
I just don't think anyone is to blame here, it was a freak accident. Wrong place, wrong time. It could've happened to me sitting by my non-Disney lake when I was living down there. It's just an unfortunate accident.
The news said these are man-made lakes. This is not a case of Disney being built around nature. They built the lakes on top of swamp land and they market it as a beach. If they trap large alligators and remove them, then they knew the threat existed. No matter how you look at it, there should have been signs. If there was an alligator sign and parents still allowed their kids in the water, then ok Disney is not at fault. If you look at some of Disney's reviews going back 2 or 3 years, some employees even told people that there are no alligators in the waters there. Obviously policy will change now, but this boy shouldn't have had to lose his life for them to implemented some cheap f*cking signs.
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OMG I am hysterical now. She is 100000% right. What is wrong with moms nowadays?
It would have been moms back then too if internet technology was the same as it is now. 30 years ago, when those tragedys happened, the surrounding neighbors came together and supported them because they are the closest to the families and they know them. The same thing still happens today. Look at the neighborhoods where anything tragic happens. They all come together and support the family.
The ****** judgement comes from the internet where people can voice their opinions without having to see the hurt in the parents eyes. It isn't as real to these "perfect parents" because they are so far removed from the situation and their facts are coming from the news. People are the same as they were back then, they just didn't have the platform for their opinions.
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It's odd to me that people who are always so quick to point the finger at the parents, saying where were the parents, saying parents need to be held accountable, responsible, etc. Are also so quick to say the company (zoo, disney in this case, etc) is without accountability, tbese mistakes can happen, it's not their fault, etc. Why? Because a cute mouse is the face of their company? Because they claim their parks are the happiest place on earth? Contradictory. How are they not acccountable in tis situation?
It's just interesting that when it's on the parents, they were beig negligent, not accountable, but when it's on the company it's a freak accident.
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Alligator Attack in Disney
The lack of compassion and empathy for this family is so disheartening - I lose more and more faith in humanity every day :(
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I have to be honest -
My first reaction was WTF is wrong w/ those parents? There was a very specific no swimming sign - But then I thought about it -
Growing up near the ocean, you KNOW, you LEARN, you SEE what the water can do, what an animal can do - when you see a 'No Swimming" sign ......you know it's for a reason, you don't go swimming.
But even then, swimming isn't standing ankle deep in the water .......even on the ocean, with no lifeguard on duty and 'no swimming' rules ..........we still run around at the surf, knowing what we know.
But people who don't live near natural bodies of water don't have that same knowledge and experience, and caution.
AND - I would never in a million years think that there were alligators in the Disney Resort's lagoon water ........NEVER would it have crossed my mind.
Everything at Disney is so perfectly manicured and prestine and seemingly man made ......I wouldn't even THINK of the possibility of natural bodies of water flowing in and through that man made lake ......and wild animals getting in .......
in hindsight, yes, I guess it might be 'common sense' .........but, it's easy to say that from my desk with both of my kids safe -
This was a completely freak accident. Those parents didn't anything different than what 5 million otheres before them did in that exactl same spot .......They were just the exceptionally unfortunate ones.
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Posted by MarisaK
I have to be honest -
My first reaction was WTF is wrong w/ those parents? There was a very specific no swimming sign - But then I thought about it -
Growing up near the ocean, you KNOW, you LEARN, you SEE what the water can do, what an animal can do - when you see a 'No Swimming" sign ......you know it's for a reason, you don't go swimming.
But even then, swimming isn't standing ankle deep in the water .......even on the ocean, with no lifeguard on duty and 'no swimming' rules ..........we still run around at the surf, knowing what we know.
But people who don't live near natural bodies of water don't have that same knowledge and experience, and caution.
AND - I would never in a million years think that there were alligators in the Disney Resort's lagoon water ........NEVER would it have crossed my mind.
Everything at Disney is so perfectly manicured and prestine and seemingly man made ......I wouldn't even THINK of the possibility of natural bodies of water flowing in and through that man made lake ......and wild animals getting in .......
in hindsight, yes, I guess it might be 'common sense' .........but, it's easy to say that from my desk with both of my kids safe -
This was a completely freak accident. Those parents didn't anything different than what 5 million otheres before them did in that exactl same spot .......They were just the exceptionally unfortunate ones.
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I disagree with you. The standard for negligence is "the reasonable person" and I think the reasonable is aware that there are alligators all over Florida especially considering there have been several incidents this year all over Florida. Being on vacation is not an excuse for ignorance and we should haven't to protect people from all the I ignorance. Despite the alligator issue, that water looks gross and murky I would never let my kids out their feet in it because of potential bacteria. How many warning signs listing all the potential risks should there be? How far do we have to go to protect people from their own ignorance?
I think all things considered, a jury would find Disney at fault.
1- These are man made lakes, they made the habitat for these alligators even if it wasn't intentionally.
2- no alligator warnings when they knew there was a risk. Obviously they knew there was a risk because they remove some alligators when they get too big.
3- employees all give different answers about the existence of alligators in the water. Even Disney travel agents would respond to comments online saying there are no alligators. Once they start questioning employees about what they were instructed to tell guests about alligators, I'm sure a lot more of the blame will be placed on Disney.
In regards to the signs, they don't have to list all the risks, but a "no swimming" sign vs a "do not enter this water" would be more effective. Simply putting no swimming leaves it open to interpretation to a lot of people. They even show images of people playing in that water on their website. That was a 3 second google search... I'm sure I could find people swimming in that water being used as an advertisement if I searched longer. Any "reasonable person" would not think there is an immediate danger because Disney failed to warn people of it.
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Why did we need ANOTHER thread for this. Seems to be the same back and forth as the other one.
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I disagree with you. The standard for negligence is "the reasonable person" and I think the reasonable is aware that there are alligators all over Florida especially considering there have been several incidents this year all over Florida. Being on vacation is not an excuse for ignorance and we should haven't to protect people from all the I ignorance. Despite the alligator issue, that water looks gross and murky I would never let my kids out their feet in it because of potential bacteria. How many warning signs listing all the potential risks should there be? How far do we have to go to protect people from their own ignorance?
I think all things considered, a jury would find Disney at fault.
1- These are man made lakes, they made the habitat for these alligators even if it wasn't intentionally.
2- no alligator warnings when they knew there was a risk. Obviously they knew there was a risk because they remove some alligators when they get too big.
3- employees all give different answers about the existence of alligators in the water. Even Disney travel agents would respond to comments online saying there are no alligators. Once they start questioning employees about what they were instructed to tell guests about alligators, I'm sure a lot more of the blame will be placed on Disney.
In regards to the signs, they don't have to list all the risks, but a "no swimming" sign vs a "do not enter this water" would be more effective. Simply putting no swimming leaves it open to interpretation to a lot of people. They even show images of people playing in that water on their website. That was a 3 second google search... I'm sure I could find people swimming in that water being used as an advertisement if I searched longer. Any "reasonable person" would not think there is an immediate danger because Disney failed to warn people of it.
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The people in the picture appear to be at the waters edge and wearing shoes. If the kid got an infection from standing in that gross water should Disney be liable? I understand he lost his life and that is more severe than the example I gave but "no swimming" to me means stay out of the water. I feel for this family because I can't even imagine. I don't blame them, but I also don't blame Disney. We are a quick to sue culture. Is a multi million dollar settlement going to bring back their kid? No. Will it make them feel better? For me that answer would be no. If they want to sue to make sure that it doesn't happen again by making Disney take more precautions then fine. People need to pay attention to the rules. They are there for a reason. FWIW I am not a die hard Disney lover.
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I just saw this posted on FB. Almost any of the people on that "beach" could be in harms way from an alligator. Disney knew there were alligators in that water and did nothing to notify guests of the potential danger. And, in my opinion, being at a Disney property creates a certain sense of safety that you wouldn't necessarily feel if you were in a "public" beach or lake. The parents of that poor child did nothing that hundreds of thousands of other visitors to Disney haven't also done. Disney, on the other hand, had the knowledge of a potential for harm and did nothing about it
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Posted by chilltocam
I just saw this posted on FB. Almost any of the people on that "beach" could be in harms way from an alligator. Disney knew there were alligators in that water and did nothing to notify guests of the potential danger. And, in my opinion, being at a Disney property creates a certain sense of safety that you wouldn't necessarily feel if you were in a "public" beach or lake. The parents of that poor child did nothing that hundreds of thousands of other visitors to Disney have done. Disney, on the other hand, had the knowledge of a potential for harm and did nothing about it
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Looking at this picture above, this same scene has probably taken place for DECADES, every single day at this resort. This is truly a horrifying, but FREAK accident. It was the time of day (dusk) and the wrong season apparently.
In the future, Disney will most certainly have signs, maybe even barricades. There will be a lawsuit that will be settled quickly and kept away from public knowledge. We live and learn, but the poor family will never be the same.
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So, if I open a business, and I'm aware there is a potentially life threatening danger lurking, I even do regular sweeps but it's difficult to completely eliminate this danger... and I don't adequately warn my patrons of the existence of that danger, and one of my patrons is attacked and seriously injured or dies, I'm not accountable right? Cool, good to know.
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Right. But you know this because you LIVED in Florida. People from all over the WORLD go to Disneyworld that wouldn't have a clue there are alligators in that water. Nobody is disputing this was a tragic accident. I don't fault Disney for having a beach theme. But there should have been a clearer warning sign plain and simple. My kids definitely put their feet in the water at Wilderness Lodge and I certainly didn't think no SWIMMING in any way equated to Dangerous Animals Lurking.
This. The fact that they remove gators on a regular basis show that they consciously know that gators pose a risk to ppl. Gators are not friendly animals and can potentially attack anybody, as we have already discussed, this reason alone is why Disney needs to put signs about alligators. If not, then why other areas nearby have these type of signs?!? They consider gators a risk, Disney should too.
I wonder if the water in their lagoons was clean and bacteria wasn't an issue, would they still put "no swim" signs?!? Which apparently was enough for them to keep ppl out of the water??
I'd love to hear them give an explaination about all of these; lack of specific signs, relocation of gators, what they thought it was considered safe and why.
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If McDonald's can be sued for not warning their coffee is hot, which is 100% common sense that coffee is hot, Disney can sure as shit be sued for not warning about alligators.
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Posted by Christine2
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I just saw this posted on FB. Almost any of the people on that "beach" could be in harms way from an alligator. Disney knew there were alligators in that water and did nothing to notify guests of the potential danger. And, in my opinion, being at a Disney property creates a certain sense of safety that you wouldn't necessarily feel if you were in a "public" beach or lake. The parents of that poor child did nothing that hundreds of thousands of other visitors to Disney have done. Disney, on the other hand, had the knowledge of a potential for harm and did nothing about it
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Looking at this picture above, this same scene has probably taken place for DECADES, every single day at this resort. This is truly a horrifying, but FREAK accident. It was the time of day (dusk) and the wrong season apparently.
In the future, Disney will most certainly have signs, maybe even barricades. There will be a lawsuit that will be settled quickly and kept away from public knowledge. We live and learn, but the poor family will never be the same.
But the real shame here is that a little boy had to lose his life at the happiest place on earth for disney to be more proactive about this danger. Knowing the risk existed you would think they would've covered their a$$, but they took a gamble thinking they do a good enough job removing gators of a certain size why alarm anyone and risk business at this resort. It's easy to sit in our homes on our ipads and computers and say, oh the parents are at fault, it was a freak accident on Disney's part, people are so sue happy these days. People.on these boards are saying their kids played in the exact same spot, it could have been any one of them. I wonder if it were someone on these boards if they would still say people are so sue happy these days, it was an accident, disney did their best, let's drop it. I'm against suing, and I do think people are sue happy these days, but in this instance I do not fault the parents for suing.
Message edited 6/16/2016 2:20:52 PM.
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| Posted 6/16/16 2:20 PM |
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eroxgirl
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Re: Alligator Attack in Disney
Posted by MC09
So, if I open a business, and I'm aware there is a potentially life threatening danger lurking, I even do regular sweeps but it's difficult to completely eliminate this danger... and I don't adequately warn my patrons of the existence of that danger, and one of my patrons is attacked and seriously injured or dies, I'm not accountable right? Cool, good to know.
I'm quite sure it falls under a "reasonable best efforts" clause. WHEN they know that alligators have made their way onto their property, they clear them out.
Disclaimer: I work for lawyers and should be editing a document with these phrases in it but instead I'm here because this is more interesting.
No business, no human, no living thing can be 100% perfect. If Disney maintains it's reasonable best efforts to keep its waters free from indigenous species that may cause harm to patrons, then they are not liable. I'm sure signs will be up by the end of the week, however, they are not negligent just because they don't have signs up saying that alligators may be present, when in their 40 year history, there has never before been an alligator attack on their property.
But alligators are indigenous to Florida, not just Disney but Disney World was built on swamp land. Do we need to put signs in the airport saying so? Do we need signs in California airports alerting travelers that there may be earthquakes or brush fires?
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| Posted 6/16/16 2:21 PM |
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MichLiz213
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Alligator Attack in Disney
The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission estimate a human's chances of being attacked by an alligator as 1 in 2.5 MILLION. According to other stories I've read, this time of year is alligator mating season. The alligator probably thought he was a small animal. It was just an absolutely, horribly unlucky accident.
I can't stop thinking about this family and what they're going through. I remember feeling this same sad feeling for the Krim family, whose two children were stabbed to death by the nanny, and after Sandy Hook.
Message edited 6/16/2016 2:27:07 PM.
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| Posted 6/16/16 2:26 PM |
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