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amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
I just wanted to say, when did this country came to this, when did we start giving Grammy's to drug addicts and drunks and to a singer who sings about not wanting to go to rehab??? She is a singer of the year??? WHAT???? I don't care how good she is as a singer, she should not be getting a grammy, I mean C'mon, she was denied the visa to come to the US. I'm sorry if I offend anyone, b/c I know many people like her, just had to get it out of my sistem  
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
I was a litle suprised as well, but I don't think it's fair NOT to give it to her just because she has a problem.
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nbc188
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
They were talking about this on the radio this morning too, and it got me thinking: back in the 70's and other parts of years gone by, weren't a LOT of the rock bands and other musicians on a lot of drugs, and didn't hide it? So why is it different for her?
Do I think she should be a role model? No. Do I think she deserves to be applauded for her TALENT, yes!
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
It's not based on her as a person. It's based on her as a singer.
You can't deny she's got a good voice and it was a huge hit.
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
Posted by nbc188
They were talking about this on the radio this morning too, and it got me thinking: back in the 70's and other parts of years gone by, weren't a LOT of the rock bands and other musicians on a lot of drugs, and didn't hide it? So why is it different for her?
Do I think she should be a role model? No. Do I think she deserves to be applauded for her TALENT, yes!
good points.
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
Posted by tamtahaus
I just wanted to say, when did this country came to this, when did we start giving Grammy's to drug addicts and drunks and to a singer who sings about not wanting to go to rehab??? She is a singer of the year??? WHAT???? I don't care how good she is as a singer, she should not be getting a grammy, I mean C'mon, she was denied the visa to come to the US. I'm sorry if I offend anyone, b/c I know many people like her, just had to get it out of my sistem
The whole point of the Grammys is their talent as a singer, not who writes the most politically correct song. And how is her song any different than when the Beatles, Clapton, the Stones, etc. sang about getting high?
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
I can't believe she got it either.
I've only heard one song of hers...and she got a grammy for that?
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
SO they we should reward anyone for the one good thing they do despite the other aspects of their are life. Is she the type of person you want your kids to look up to?? ( if you have kids)because no matter how strong a parent you are kids see this in media and learn that it doesn't matter what they do, IN OLD DAYS ( even just few years ago ) WE DIDN'T KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT CELEBRITIES, now we know every detail and SO do our children . I am a parent and I would not want my child to think that , you can do drugs, drink, smoke crack and look like you are crazy , as long as you can sing well or act well, and as long as you make money.
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
Posted by CathyB
The whole point of the Grammys is their talent as a singer, not who writes the most politically correct song. And how is her song any different than when the Beatles, Clapton, the Stones, etc. sang about getting high?
ITA.
I think she's a skank, but that's not what the awards are based on. And, not going to rehab is a little more understated than a song titled something like "Cocaine", no? 
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
The Awards have nothing to do with their personal life. Otherwise, many artists would not get it. The Beatles did drugs. Aren't concidered one of the biggest group of all times? What about Nirvana, a bunch of singers of the 70's smoking pot? Madona who loves to give the tongue to Christina and Britney on TV yet the following week is signing her children book that she wrote because she thought the books for her kids were not appropriate.
The Awards are not for role models but for talent.
I love her voice, songs. She is very talented.
How should we give Awards to? Based on their polical views, how they look, whether they drink alcohol/do drugs?
While they may have personal issues, that has NOTHING to do with their talent.
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
If they didn't give awards to people who do drugs or are drunks they would have no one to give awards to. Sure they're not all obvious crackheads like Amy Winehouse, but just because you can hide your drug or alcohol problem doesn't mean you don't have one.
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Posted by tamtahaus
SO they we should reward anyone for the one good thing they do despite the other aspects of their are life. Is she the type of person you want your kids to look up to?? ( if you have kids)because no matter how strong a parent you are kids see this in media and learn that it doesn't matter what they do, IN OLD DAYS ( even just few years ago ) WE DIDN'T KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT CELEBRITIES, now we know every detail and SO do our children . I am a parent and I would not want my child to think that , you can do drugs, drink, smoke crack and look like you are crazy , as long as you can sing well or act well, and as long as you make money.
That's the thing, I feel we can't really single her out. How many other actors, musicians, great artists, etc. have known drug & alcohol problems? No, they shouldn't be role models to our kids at all, but they may still be talented.
ETA: I am a parent, and although my DD is just a baby, I'd hope I could raise her to know who should be a true role model.
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
This is all to do with the papparazzi! I mean wasn't Elvis on the presidents task force against drugs? Wasn't he in the White House talking about getting young people off of drugs while he was HIGH? It isn't about Amy being a drug addict, its about her being a drug addict in this age of papparazzi taking pictures at peoples funerals! Many many many of our artists throughout the ages have been BIG drug addicts, however they didn't have photographers camping outside of their homes at all hours to document this.
eta...I think she is a wonderful singer, I think she and Mark Ronson made a great record and she deserves any awards she gets. They have nothing to do with her personal life. Nothing at all.
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
I think she was on drugs or drunk last night during her performance. i don't think she deserved a grammy for her music!
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yankinmanc
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
Its interesting. I call it the Mariah Carey syndrome. She is a HUGELY popular recording artist, selling millions of records around the world with millions of fans, and her albums are constantly in the charts and people love her.
But, I personally don't know anyone who owns a Mariah Carey record, and I personally don't know anybody who is a fan of hers.
Its all about the circles you hang out in. Thats cool if you don't like her music, its not everybodys cup of tea. But millions of people have bought her records and people seem to love her, so she must be pretty good!
(omg I think I always feel compelled to defend her...its that British Jewish thing that, I feel some sort of kinship to her!)
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Posted by eroxgirl
If they didn't give awards to people who do drugs or are drunks they would have no one to give awards to.
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
Posted by eroxgirl
If they didn't give awards to people who do drugs or are drunks they would have no one to give awards to. Sure they're not all obvious crackheads like Amy Winehouse, but just because you can hide your drug or alcohol problem doesn't mean you don't have one.
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
The grammy's have absolutely nothing to do with her personal life, as they shouldn't. God forbid, we were all judged at work for our personal and social hardships! The point is that she has tremendous, tremendous talent, whether you agree with how she lives her life or not. And, unfortunately, in this kind of business, the people with the most creativity, are those who are using it as an outlet for some serious, traumatic hardships they've experienced in their lives, so this is not the first, nor the last artist who will receive an award, who is also battling addiction problems.
Yes, these people are role models, but often not by their own choosing. This woman is expressing her creativity through the only medium she knows how - music. I doubt she expressly CHOSE to be a role model - unfortunately, that's just our twist, as society, that we place on artists.
If you don't want your children to look up to her as a role model, then it's your place as a parent to teach them yourself - it's not up to the music industry, the television industry, or the artists themselves.
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
Let's face it, AW's voice is pretty awesome. While I may not think it was one of the best records of '07, there are definitely a bunch of good songs on that album. Is she a drunk, a junkie, a walking train-wreck? YES. Should that influence whether she wins a Grammy or not? Absolutely not. The Grammys are solely about music..not about moral judgements as to who lives a 'holier' life. If you don't agree with an artist, then don't buy their music, don't listen to their music..it's pretty simple. If you think that half the artists or actors that you all love so very much aren't doing some kind of bad stuff behind the scenes, then you're wrong. If we didn't give Oscars to actors who had drug problems, or personal troubles, LOL, then there might not be any Oscars to give out!
BTW, I had a chance to watch the 2007 MTV European Music Awards show from last Nov...my God, Amy Winehouse was higher than a kite. She went onstage to sing Back to Black and I don't think she actually sang one word from the song, unless you consider murmuring your way through a song 'singing'. Then she won an award and walked up to the stage and just had this glazed-over, puzzled look on her face. She stood there speechless. It was embarrassing to watch! 
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
Posted by tamtahaus
Is she the type of person you want your kids to look up to?? ( if you have kids)because no matter how strong a parent you are kids see this in media and learn that it doesn't matter what they do
I really don't want my kids looking up to any of these clowns be they actors, singers or athletes. But that's why it's my job as a parent to try to instill the ideals I want my children to embody in them. I don't plan on tossing them Wino's cd and walking out of the room.
Posted by tamtahaus
IN OLD DAYS ( even just few years ago ) WE DIDN'T KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT CELEBRITIES
It was pretty well known, even back then, that the Beatles were strung out. I mean, how many people walk around saying things like "I am the eggman, I am the walrus, goo goo goo joob." And like someone else mentioned, Clapton wrote "Cocaine" which isn't very subtle.
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
Oh yeah....like the Stones were the picture of good morals....it's about the music. Scott Weiland....Nirvana....all these groups and people have won awards over time. True, nowadays WE hear more about it because paparazzi and media is outta control. I think Amy deserved it. Her music is great. What she does with her own life is her business.
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Re: amy winehouse???? can't believe she got it
maybe it's just me, but I don't think she's that talented. I thought there were others (some not nominated) that were better.
that's why I can't believe she won.
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Posted by eroxgirl
If they didn't give awards to people who do drugs or are drunks they would have no one to give awards to. Sure they're not all obvious crackheads like Amy Winehouse, but just because you can hide your drug or alcohol problem doesn't mean you don't have one.
Exactly.
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