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Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics (now with Hilary Rosen's response - 1st post)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ann-romney-defends-her-stay-at-home-mom-status-to-critics/2012/04/12/gIQAlplHDT_story.html
April 12 (Bloomberg) -- Ann Romney, wife of presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and mother of five sons, is fighting a claim that she “never worked a day in her life.”
“I made a choice to stay home and raise five boys,” she wrote in a Twitter message -- a social-media debut prompted by a Democrat’s challenge of her knowledge about the economy. “Believe me,” Romney wrote. “It was hard work.”
As the Republican presidential contest winds its way ever closer to the GOP convention, the candidates continue to hit the campaign trail ahead of various primaries in an effort to win the requisite number of delegates for the party nomination. Gallery
Hillary Rosen, a Democratic strategist, started the exchange during an interview on CNN yesterday in which she said of Mitt Romney: “Guess what, his wife has actually never worked a day in her life.” Rosen said: “She’s never dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of women in this country are facing.”
The expanding debate -- with advisers of President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign swiftly distancing themselves from Rosen’s remarks -- underscores a challenge that Romney faces as he turns toward a general election campaign. Polls show Obama favored over Romney by about a 20-percentage-point margin among women, a gap posing a major electoral hurdle to Romney’s hopes of defeating Obama in November.
Ann Romney also responded to Rosen’s comment in an interview on FOX News, saying, “My career choice was to be a mother. Other women make other choices. We have to respect women in all the choices they make.”
She also disputed the notion that she doeesn’t understand the economy: “Guess what women are taking about. I don’t care if they’re stay-at-home mothers or working mothers or grandmothers. They’re talking about jobs and the legacy of debt that we are leaving our children.”
Ann Romney’s Role
Mitt Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts, holds more than half the delegates needed for nomination at his party’s convention in August, and the withdrawal of rival Rick Santorum from the race earlier this week cleared the way for him to claim it.
Ann Romney has played an active role in her husband’s campaign, and Rosen’s comments elevated her profile at a time when the candidate is attempting to appeal to women.
Women account for a majority of voters in election years. Women also held a majority of non-farm payroll jobs in January 2010 -- for the first time since the U.S. Department of Labor started collecting data in 1964. The 2011 Bureau of Labor Statistics Databook on Women in the Labor Force reported that 71.3 percent of mothers with children were working.
Stay-Home Mothers
The challenge of Ann Romney’s experience as a stay-at-home mother reopens an issue that Hillary Clinton, now serving as Obama’s secretary of state, raised two decades ago when the wife of President Bill Clinton scoffed at the notion that she might have stayed home and baked cookies rather than having a career as a lawyer.
In a twist of political alliances, Obama campaign manager Jim Messina and adviser David Axelrod rose to the defense of the Republican candidate’s wife yesterday with Twitter messages calling Rosen’s words ”inappropriate” and “wrong.”
The exchange also capped Mitt Romney’s first full day as presumptive Republican nominee during which he made a direct appeal to women. Democrats have accused Republicans in their party’s primary contest of waging a ”war on women.”
Surrounded by dozens of female business-owners yesterday at a warehouse in Hartford, Romney said: “I was disappointed in listening to the president as he’s saying, ‘Oh, Republicans are waging a war on women.’ The real war on women is being waged by the president’s failed economic policies.” --------------------------------------
My thoughts are: -Ann Romney isn't running for President. -Very few Congressman have not undergone the economic plight that most Americans have faced. It doesn't mean they don't understand the econmics of it. -I believe there is a war on women's constitutional rights - but it doesn't have to do with the financial aspects.
Hillary Rosen's response: My Twitter feed was on fire after an appearance last night on CNN's AC360, where I said that I thought it was wrong for Mitt Romney to be using his wife as his guide to women's economic struggles when she "had never worked a day in her life." Oh my, you should read the tweets and the hate mail I got after that. The accusations were flying. I don't know what it means to be a mom (I have 2 children). I obviously don't value the work that a mother does and how hard it is (the hardest job I have ever had); and I absolutely hate anyone who doesn't have the same views as I do (hate is a strong word).
Spare me the faux anger from the right who view the issue of women's rights and advancement as a way to score political points. When it comes to supporting policies that would actually help women, their silence has been deafening. I don't need lectures from the RNC on supporting women and fighting to increase opportunities for women; I've been doing it my whole career. If they want to attack me and distract the public's attention away from their nominee's woeful record, it just demonstrates how much they just don't get it.
My favorite tweet was from someone who said that Republicans like Ann Romney so much more than Mitt that by attacking her (which I didn't), I got people to defend him in a way they never would.
That last one I can actually understand.
Now let's be clear on one thing. I have no judgements about women who work outside the home vs. women who work in the home raising a family. I admire women who can stay home and raise their kids full-time. I even envy them sometimes. It is a wonderful luxury to have the choice. But let's stipulate that it is NOT a choice that most women have in America today.
Why does this even matter? It matters purely because Mitt Romney put the issue of his wife's views squarely on the table.
As Ruth Marcus noted in her column yesterday in the Washington Post, Romney, when asked last week about the gender gap, twice said he wished his wife could take the question.
"My wife has the occasion, as you know, to campaign on her own and also with me," Romney told newspaper editors, "and she reports to me regularly that the issue women care about most is the economy."
So it begs the question, is Ann Romney Mitt's touchstone for women who are struggling economically or not? Nothing in Ann Romney's history as we have heard it -- hardworking mom she may have been -- leads me to believe that Mitt has chosen the right expert to get feedback on this problem he professes to be so concerned about.
I have nothing against Ann Romney. She seems like a nice lady who has raised nice boys, struggled with illness, and handles its long-term effects with grace and dignity. I admire her grit in talking about her illness publicly.
What is more important to me and 57% of current women voters is her husband saying he supports women's economic issue because they are the only issues that matter to us and then he fails on even those.
Let's put aside for a moment his views on women's health issues -- such as his pledge to repeal funding for Planned Parenthood or repeal title X -- which provides important health services for poor women, and true anecdotes (such as when he was a Bishop in his church, he actually went to a congregant's hospital room and told a young single mother who had just given birth that she was shaming the church and should give her baby away). Let's put those issues of respect and health dignity away.
Let's just focus on his economic record on behalf of women. When Romney ran Bain Capital, less than 10% of the senior workforce were women. And he said in his 1994 Senate race that it was because he had trouble finding qualified women to be executives. Is there a woman alive who believes that? I personally believe that women hate the way our health issues were made a political football by the Republicans in the last several months. But I am pragmatic enough to believe that the economic issues do matter greatly to women and men alike. But the only way that Mitt Romney will succeed in closing the wide gender gap between him and President Obama is if he stops pretending that it doesn't exist. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hilary-rosen/ann-romney-women_b_1419480.html
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
Raising 5 boys sounds like a HELL of a lot of work to me!!!
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Posted 4/12/12 3:38 PM |
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rkl1130
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
I don't understand the attack against her and her choosing to stay at home.
Raising kids, never mind 5 boys, is incredibly hard work. Just because she chose to stay at home as opposed to being in the working field should not be a mark against her. It doesn't make her stupid or any less of a person. As a stay at home mother, you still work and still have to understand the world around you and deal with it accordingly. To say that her role as a stay at home mother means she doesn't understand economics is simply wrong because as a stay at home mom, you are GREATLY affected by economics and the state of the economy.
She isn't running for president and I thought that was an unfair attack and highlights some of the prejudices (for lack of a better word) against stay at home moms. I stayed at home until DD was 1 1/2 and just recently went back to work and let me tell you, being a stay at home mom is the toughest job I have ever done.
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Posted 4/12/12 3:46 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
Ugh!
It's really too bad that this was the comment this woman chose to make because I do believe Republicans ARE waging a war on women, but now these words will take the focus away from the damage that's being done and cause the conversation to deteriorate to the "moms v. moms" nastiness and we all know how useful that is.
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Posted 4/12/12 3:53 PM |
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Xelindrya
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
She may not be running for president but if her husband wins she'll be First Lady. That makes her fair game to the press.
The comments were uncalled for and unwise.
I think it will help the Romney camp more than hurt them. Attacking Stay at home moms is just STUPID.
Whether you are a FTWM or a SAHM both sides respect and honor the other side for the choices they've made for their family. To attack one side or the other is just crazy.
PS: SAHM probably are better at understanding Economic woes than I am as a FTWM. I mean I have two incomes and have wiggle room for flux. They have one income and generally have their finger on the pulse of their house income and expenses. They'd probably see the increase in groceries MONTHS before I'd notice. They know gas prices are up here or there but can get cheaper food there so gas equated in may be a savings. etc.. JMHO
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Posted 4/12/12 3:53 PM |
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rkl1130
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
Posted by Xelindrya
She may not be running for president but if her husband wins she'll be First Lady. That makes her fair game to the press.
The comments were uncalled for and unwise.
I think it will help the Romney camp more than hurt them. Attacking Stay at home moms is just STUPID.
Whether you are a FTWM or a SAHM both sides respect and honor the other side for the choices they've made for their family. To attack one side or the other is just crazy.
PS: SAHM probably are better at understanding Economic woes than I am as a FTWM. I mean I have two incomes and have wiggle room for flux. They have one income and generally have their finger on the pulse of their house income and expenses. They'd probably see the increase in groceries MONTHS before I'd notice. They know gas prices are up here or there but can get cheaper food there so gas equated in may be a savings. etc.. JMHO
I agree!
The comment really just served to polarize women. FTWM have a lot of respect for SAHM and vice versa.
I think sometimes people don't give SAHM's too much credit. They are the ones that run the household and are the ones that usually see economic impacts before others.
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Posted 4/12/12 3:58 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
I just don't understand how the comments were relevant. She's not running for president, her husband is.
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Posted 4/12/12 4:00 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
It's not an issue, except that it is different from the last three first ladies. Just like Hillary Clinton got slack in 1992 for being a career woman after centuries of SAH first ladies.
Can't win.
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Posted 4/12/12 4:07 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
See, i don't see the comments that Rosen made as an attack on SAHM's or that Ann Romney chose to raise 5 boys instead of working..
I saw it more of a comment that she's always been the wife of a very wealthy man and therefore has no real idea what most working mothers or SAHM's have to deal with economically on a daily basis
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Posted 4/12/12 4:11 PM |
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Sherwood
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
Posted by Otherme
See, i don't see the comments that Rosen made as an attack on SAHM's or that Ann Romney chose to raise 5 boys instead of working..
I saw it more of a comment that she's always been the wife of a very wealthy man and therefore has no real idea what most working mothers or SAHM's have to deal with economically on a daily basis
This exactly. I have been following this all day and while it may have been poorly worded, I did not see it as an attack on SAHMs. I think her point was that a woman of Ann Romney's means, and having the option to choose to SAH (with, I assume, plenty of outside help), really cant understand the issues of women who dont have that choice.
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Posted 4/12/12 4:15 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
Posted by Otherme
See, i don't see the comments that Rosen made as an attack on SAHM's or that Ann Romney chose to raise 5 boys instead of working..
I saw it more of a comment that she's always been the wife of a very wealthy man and therefore has no real idea what most working mothers or SAHM's have to deal with economically on a daily basis
this, exactly. that said, i think that making this comment was a poor choice.
i also think that she certainly is open to comment/criticism, since if her husband wins she would be the first lady. comments about her are certainly relevant - just maybe not this one.
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Posted 4/12/12 4:20 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
Posted by Otherme
See, i don't see the comments that Rosen made as an attack on SAHM's or that Ann Romney chose to raise 5 boys instead of working..
I saw it more of a comment that she's always been the wife of a very wealthy man and therefore has no real idea what most working mothers or SAHM's have to deal with economically on a daily basis
I think this exactly.
However, I don't think it was a wise thing to say simply because it will be taken apart piece by piece with no context and that can only serve to polarize people more.
And, just to be clear, I have the UTMOST respect for SAHM - I don't know that I could do it. My mother was one and she was one of the smartest, most hard working people I have ever known!
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Posted 4/12/12 4:24 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
all campaigns get ugly and unfortuantely, they will always hit below the belt to get a reaction, any kind of reaction, our of the public. remember, as long as people talk about you, even if its negative press, they are still talking about you. with that said, idon't think its fair to criticize her for choosing to stay at home and raising 5 children. that sounds like a tough job to me!
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Posted 4/12/12 4:26 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
Posted by Otherme
See, i don't see the comments that Rosen made as an attack on SAHM's or that Ann Romney chose to raise 5 boys instead of working..
I saw it more of a comment that she's always been the wife of a very wealthy man and therefore has no real idea what most working mothers or SAHM's have to deal with economically on a daily basis
Exactly- she and her husband are not regular folks. Raising 5 boys had to be tons of work but I bet she didn't have to clean and do laundry and worry about bills and having only one source of income.
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Posted 4/12/12 4:33 PM |
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Arieschick29
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
Everyone is interpreting Rosen's comments incorrectly!
I watched the interview and she made the comments about Ann Romney because Mitt was constantly making comments like " I ask my wife what women are most concerned about and she tells me they are concerned about the economy".
If you are going to use your wife as an advisor or insight into women in America, Rosen was simply pointing out that Ann Romney knows nothing about poverty, working a minimum wage job or worrying about how to support a family.
Why are people taking this as an attack on SAHM's?!?!
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Posted 4/12/12 4:39 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
Posted by Erica
It's not an issue, except that it is different from the last three first ladies. Just like Hillary Clinton got slack in 1992 for being a career woman after centuries of SAH first ladies.
Can't win.
This is what I was thinking. I remember all the negative comments about Hillary having a career in her own right. No matter what a First Lady chooses to do, apparently someone's going to have a problem with it.
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Posted 4/12/12 5:30 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
Posted by Arieschick29
Everyone is interpreting Rosen's comments incorrectly!
I watched the interview and she made the comments about Ann Romney because Mitt was constantly making comments like " I ask my wife what women are most concerned about and she tells me they are concerned about the economy".
If you are going to use your wife as an advisor or insight into women in America, Rosen was simply pointing out that Ann Romney knows nothing about poverty, working a minimum wage job or worrying about how to support a family.
Why are people taking this as an attack on SAHM's?!?!
Exactly. Also her circle does not include women struggling to put food on the table, working 2 jobs because her husband can't find one..etc.. When she says the economy is the one thing women are most concerned with I feel she sees it in a high level manner. Not nitty gritty day to day stuff.
And lastly, there is not one singular thing women are concerned with. If you take away my civil rights then that becomes the single most important thing. She doesn't have to worry that her birth control is covered by insurance or that if she wanted an abortion she would be forced to look at the sonogram or get permission from her husband. All of those things have been in the news lately as some states are actually passing laws limiting women's rights!
And yes, Mrs. Romney, you are going to be fair game no matter what.
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Posted 4/12/12 6:13 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
wait so she's rich now and has never had a job so she's not qualified to speak about what bugs women in general?
Because she may not have personally stood in a welfare line she can't POSSIBLY know? Lots of women are born into money and even if they work have NO insight at all into MY life but I have no insight to theirs. Heck half of the LIF is like speaking to women from another world. Doesn't mean their opinions don't count.
I dont see where her current status of finance makes ANY difference at all. She's a human being and US Citizen AND more IMPORTANTLY, she is his WIFE. No one should belittle her for being his adviser.
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She's not putting a bill to the floor of the senate. She's not his only adviser. She's his personal talking board. If elected he will have a staff to 'educate' him on the poor. None of which are poor. Even if they HAD been poor they are so far removed from it they can't possibly understand today's struggles (that goes for BOTH Sides of the so called party line) .
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Posted 4/12/12 7:36 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
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Posted by Otherme
See, i don't see the comments that Rosen made as an attack on SAHM's or that Ann Romney chose to raise 5 boys instead of working..
I saw it more of a comment that she's always been the wife of a very wealthy man and therefore has no real idea what most working mothers or SAHM's have to deal with economically on a daily basis
This exactly. I have been following this all day and while it may have been poorly worded, I did not see it as an attack on SAHMs. I think her point was that a woman of Ann Romney's means, and having the option to choose to SAH (with, I assume, plenty of outside help), really cant understand the issues of women who dont have that choice.
Agreed. I think it was more about being out o touch with the concerns of everyday women, whether they work full time or SAH. I think it was not a good comment to make because it can be construed as an attach on SAH moms.
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Posted 4/13/12 12:18 PM |
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Otherme
See, i don't see the comments that Rosen made as an attack on SAHM's or that Ann Romney chose to raise 5 boys instead of working..
I saw it more of a comment that she's always been the wife of a very wealthy man and therefore has no real idea what most working mothers or SAHM's have to deal with economically on a daily basis
this, exactly. that said, i think that making this comment was a poor choice.
i also think that she certainly is open to comment/criticism, since if her husband wins she would be the first lady. comments about her are certainly relevant - just maybe not this one.
I agree. I have 100% respect for SAHM and working moms. What not all women/SAHM moms understand, is that they may have had the choice to make being a SAHM mom a career. Not all moms/women have the choice. In the end, no matter how hard the job is, it doesn't pay you money. If you don't have a spouse that can cover the finances of the family, you have no choice but to work at a job that gives a paycheck, and still be a good mom, and still enjoy motherhood. That's the most difficult spot, IMO--how do you/society help women who need to financially provide for their family, who also need/want to be the primary caregiver. Our society is not set up to encourage or really allow for that. But that is not in any way an attack on SAHMs. It's a completely separate issue.
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Re: Why is this an issue: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics
Posted by Xelindrya
wait so she's rich now and has never had a job so she's not qualified to speak about what bugs women in general?
Because she may not have personally stood in a welfare line she can't POSSIBLY know? Lots of women are born into money and even if they work have NO insight at all into MY life but I have no insight to theirs. Heck half of the LIF is like speaking to women from another world. Doesn't mean their opinions don't count.
I dont see where her current status of finance makes ANY difference at all. She's a human being and US Citizen AND more IMPORTANTLY, she is his WIFE. No one should belittle her for being his adviser.
crazy
She's not putting a bill to the floor of the senate. She's not his only adviser. She's his personal talking board. If elected he will have a staff to 'educate' him on the poor. None of which are poor. Even if they HAD been poor they are so far removed from it they can't possibly understand today's struggles (that goes for BOTH Sides of the so called party line) .
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Posted 4/13/12 2:22 PM |
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Arieschick29
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Re: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics (now with Hilary Rosen's response - 1st post)
Well Mitt Romney could at least get out and ASK real women instead of using his wife as a sounding board. Come and talk to me instead of using your wife to make it seem like you care about women's opinions
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Posted 4/14/12 12:17 PM |
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Re: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics (now with Hilary Rosen's response - 1st post)
I understand what Hilary Rosen was TRYING to say, and I agree with her sentiment.
She just chose the wrong stupid words, was called out on it and then apologized.
I don't think this should be an issue at all.
Moving on...
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Posted 4/14/12 2:13 PM |
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Re: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics (now with Hilary Rosen's response - 1st post)
Posted by sameinitials
Posted by Otherme
See, i don't see the comments that Rosen made as an attack on SAHM's or that Ann Romney chose to raise 5 boys instead of working..
I saw it more of a comment that she's always been the wife of a very wealthy man and therefore has no real idea what most working mothers or SAHM's have to deal with economically on a daily basis
this, exactly. that said, i think that making this comment was a poor choice.
i also think that she certainly is open to comment/criticism, since if her husband wins she would be the first lady. comments about her are certainly relevant - just maybe not this one.
I agree with this as well
She never had to work a day in her life (she meant outside the home) because she was married to a wealthy man...not because she had 5 boys who are now in their thirties.
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Posted 4/14/12 11:50 PM |
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Re: Ann Romney defends her stay-at-home mom status to critics (now with Hilary Rosen's response - 1st post)
MY husband has a job that affects other people's lives everyday, and I am his wife...yet I do not advise him on his job, I leave that to the other professionals at his job. Also, as a teacher I get little to no advice from him on my job, my students, and their families and it is not because I do not respect him, its because he just does not know.
I know she is just adviser, but yes it concerns me that she is this great influence in his life and she has absolutely no idea, what my stay-at-home mom friends go through everyday with very little help, few breaks and tremendous sacrifice to do their jobs at home....nevermind what I go through as a working mom who struggles to keep my head above water too (only in a different way).
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