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Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

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glinda-goodwitch
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Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

I'm about 2 years from graduating and I'm thinking of my options. Definitely don't want a post-doc or the whole academia thing. My background is in animal behavior/neuroscience. Anyone know of any creative jobs out there. I like the idea of working in a museum, but I have no experience in the field and I'm afraid that I'd have to do more schooling which I do not want to do.

Any suggestions? I have time, I'm just thinking about things...Thanks!

Posted 8/8/07 9:31 AM
 
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

Yep! I have a PhD in microbiology and immunology and work in development (a euphemism for fundraising) for a medical center.

Most of my friends have PhDs and are not bench scientists. Two are in law school studying IP/patent stuff, two are consultants (one for startup biotechs, one for govt.), one is a writer, and one is in technology transfer.

There's a whole world outside the lab!

I never got around to reading these books but wanted to:
Alternative Careers in Science
Finding Careers Outside of Academia

Also, I'm sure you know about Science's Next Wave - I learned a ton from that site.

Good luck!

Posted 8/8/07 11:59 AM
 

glinda-goodwitch
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

I'm actually in the middle of reading the first book! I loved the first two chapters on writing, but I'm not crazy about the corporate world, and the book seems to be corporate heavy.

Fundraising sounds interesting. I also was thinking along the lines of science and the public. What is a typical day like for you?

Thanks!

p.s. Please feel free to FM if you don't want to post

Posted 8/8/07 12:06 PM
 

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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

I was (am) interested in engaging the public in science, too, but I can't figure out how to go about doing that. Chat Icon

Development is all about building relationships - with faculty, program officers, donors, internal constituents, etc. There are a dozen different kinds of fundraisers at universities and academic medical centers, so I can only talk about my own experience.

I work with foundations and corporations, and have never asked someone for money in person. All of my work is through proposals, usually written in conjunction with a faculty member and sometimes (about 50/50) written in a way that's understandable to a non-scientist, depending on who reads the proposal and makes funding decisions.

Sometimes we're approached by a funder who knows exactly what they want to fund and are shopping around to find the best fit for their interests ("We have $1 million and want to fund something truly innovative in Alzheimer's research"). So we develop a proposal that explains how our research is likely to have a major impact on people with Alzheimer's disease.

In a typical month (there are no typical days!) I'll:
-- meet with a faculty member to learn about his/her research;
-- search internet databases for any new funding sources;
-- strategize about how to pitch a particular research project and to which funding source; and
-- write a proposal.

It's really fun, but I do miss the lab. Not the work - just the environment. I would KILL to be able to wear whatever I wanted and come and go as I please!

Posted 8/8/07 5:06 PM
 

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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

I should add that DH is always pleased when someone decides not to continue in academia = less competition! Chat Icon

(He's a postdoc.)

Posted 8/8/07 5:07 PM
 

glinda-goodwitch
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

Thanks so much! You know, that does sound fun! I always enjoy coming up with experiments and ideas, and writing about them. The problem is that I don't like doing the actual research. I get very uneasy with the idea of working so hard to set up a lab/experiment and then having it fail. The idea of working and working and not coming to an end or much progress is frustrating to me. So maybe this is a good career route for me. How did you get into this? Did you need experience in another area before you could enter this field?

Posted 8/8/07 7:22 PM
 

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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

Posted by glinda-goodwitch

I get very uneasy with the idea of working so hard to set up a lab/experiment and then having it fail. The idea of working and working and not coming to an end or much progress is frustrating to me.

This was me! I had a string of failures in grad school that just crushed my soul. I love science but can't be the one to actually DO it.

I have no particular experience in anything other than being a scientist (wow, that sounds pathetic! Chat Icon ). Most people just "fall into" development - it's not something you go to school for. I found a job ad that wanted someone with a PhD who can translate science for a layperson audience, so I applied and voila.

I'm also very interested in the other side of things - being the person who doles out the money, rather than asks for it. I'd love to be a program officer at a foundation that supports biomedical research. Next job, maybe!

Posted 8/9/07 10:55 AM
 

glinda-goodwitch
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

Wow, thanks! This is so nice to hear. I may FM you more questions as I think of them, if you don't mind. Just so I know what to look for in job searches, does your job have a specific title? Or is just searching in development sufficient?

Posted 8/9/07 12:20 PM
 

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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

'Development' or 'advancement' are sort of the key terms. 'Corporate and foundation relations' is my precise field.

Hope that helps!

Posted 8/10/07 9:02 AM
 

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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

A good friend of mine has a PhD in Microbiology and she works for a pharmaceutical company.

Posted 8/11/07 9:35 PM
 

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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

Wow I just stumpled onto this post!! I'm in the middle of doing my PhD in genetics and am in the same predicament. I'm just starting my 3rd year so I have time yet but I don't know if academia is a good fit for me. If anything, I'd like to teach at a small liberal arts college and not have a lab of my own.

Thanks for the links I will check it out Chat Icon Us nerds need to stick together!

Message edited 8/13/2007 1:30:20 PM.

Posted 8/13/07 1:30 PM
 

glinda-goodwitch
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?

Posted by azoodie

Wow I just stumpled onto this post!! I'm in the middle of doing my PhD in genetics and am in the same predicament. I'm just starting my 3rd year so I have time yet but I don't know if academia is a good fit for me. If anything, I'd like to teach at a small liberal arts college and not have a lab of my own.

Thanks for the links I will check it out Chat Icon Us nerds need to stick together!



Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon I'm in my 6th year (I got a little sidetracked) and I totally know what you mean about not wanting a lab of your own. I just don't want that responsibility. I had a bad adviser experience and I would never want to put anyone else through that! Plus, I just don't think research is for me.

Us nerds definitely need to stick together! Chat Icon

Message edited 8/13/2007 3:13:07 PM.

Posted 8/13/07 3:12 PM
 
 

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