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Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?
I'm about 2 years from graduating and I'm thinking of my options. Definitely don't want a post-doc or the whole academia thing. My background is in animal behavior/neuroscience. Anyone know of any creative jobs out there. I like the idea of working in a museum, but I have no experience in the field and I'm afraid that I'd have to do more schooling which I do not want to do.
Any suggestions? I have time, I'm just thinking about things...Thanks!
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Posted 8/8/07 9:31 AM |
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?
Yep! I have a PhD in microbiology and immunology and work in development (a euphemism for fundraising) for a medical center.
Most of my friends have PhDs and are not bench scientists. Two are in law school studying IP/patent stuff, two are consultants (one for startup biotechs, one for govt.), one is a writer, and one is in technology transfer.
There's a whole world outside the lab!
I never got around to reading these books but wanted to: Alternative Careers in Science Finding Careers Outside of Academia
Also, I'm sure you know about Science's Next Wave - I learned a ton from that site.
Good luck!
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Posted 8/8/07 11:59 AM |
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?
I'm actually in the middle of reading the first book! I loved the first two chapters on writing, but I'm not crazy about the corporate world, and the book seems to be corporate heavy.
Fundraising sounds interesting. I also was thinking along the lines of science and the public. What is a typical day like for you?
Thanks!
p.s. Please feel free to FM if you don't want to post
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Posted 8/8/07 12:06 PM |
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?
I was (am) interested in engaging the public in science, too, but I can't figure out how to go about doing that.
Development is all about building relationships - with faculty, program officers, donors, internal constituents, etc. There are a dozen different kinds of fundraisers at universities and academic medical centers, so I can only talk about my own experience.
I work with foundations and corporations, and have never asked someone for money in person. All of my work is through proposals, usually written in conjunction with a faculty member and sometimes (about 50/50) written in a way that's understandable to a non-scientist, depending on who reads the proposal and makes funding decisions.
Sometimes we're approached by a funder who knows exactly what they want to fund and are shopping around to find the best fit for their interests ("We have $1 million and want to fund something truly innovative in Alzheimer's research"). So we develop a proposal that explains how our research is likely to have a major impact on people with Alzheimer's disease.
In a typical month (there are no typical days!) I'll: -- meet with a faculty member to learn about his/her research; -- search internet databases for any new funding sources; -- strategize about how to pitch a particular research project and to which funding source; and -- write a proposal.
It's really fun, but I do miss the lab. Not the work - just the environment. I would KILL to be able to wear whatever I wanted and come and go as I please!
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Posted 8/8/07 5:06 PM |
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?
I should add that DH is always pleased when someone decides not to continue in academia = less competition!
(He's a postdoc.)
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Posted 8/8/07 5:07 PM |
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?
Thanks so much! You know, that does sound fun! I always enjoy coming up with experiments and ideas, and writing about them. The problem is that I don't like doing the actual research. I get very uneasy with the idea of working so hard to set up a lab/experiment and then having it fail. The idea of working and working and not coming to an end or much progress is frustrating to me. So maybe this is a good career route for me. How did you get into this? Did you need experience in another area before you could enter this field?
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Posted 8/8/07 7:22 PM |
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?
Posted by glinda-goodwitch
I get very uneasy with the idea of working so hard to set up a lab/experiment and then having it fail. The idea of working and working and not coming to an end or much progress is frustrating to me. This was me! I had a string of failures in grad school that just crushed my soul. I love science but can't be the one to actually DO it.
I have no particular experience in anything other than being a scientist (wow, that sounds pathetic! ). Most people just "fall into" development - it's not something you go to school for. I found a job ad that wanted someone with a PhD who can translate science for a layperson audience, so I applied and voila.
I'm also very interested in the other side of things - being the person who doles out the money, rather than asks for it. I'd love to be a program officer at a foundation that supports biomedical research. Next job, maybe!
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Posted 8/9/07 10:55 AM |
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?
Wow, thanks! This is so nice to hear. I may FM you more questions as I think of them, if you don't mind. Just so I know what to look for in job searches, does your job have a specific title? Or is just searching in development sufficient?
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Posted 8/9/07 12:20 PM |
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?
'Development' or 'advancement' are sort of the key terms. 'Corporate and foundation relations' is my precise field.
Hope that helps!
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Posted 8/10/07 9:02 AM |
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?
A good friend of mine has a PhD in Microbiology and she works for a pharmaceutical company.
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Posted 8/11/07 9:35 PM |
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?
Wow I just stumpled onto this post!! I'm in the middle of doing my PhD in genetics and am in the same predicament. I'm just starting my 3rd year so I have time yet but I don't know if academia is a good fit for me. If anything, I'd like to teach at a small liberal arts college and not have a lab of my own.
Thanks for the links I will check it out Us nerds need to stick together!
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Posted 8/13/07 1:30 PM |
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Re: Anyone here have a PhD in a hard science, but a non-academic career?
Posted by azoodie
Wow I just stumpled onto this post!! I'm in the middle of doing my PhD in genetics and am in the same predicament. I'm just starting my 3rd year so I have time yet but I don't know if academia is a good fit for me. If anything, I'd like to teach at a small liberal arts college and not have a lab of my own.
Thanks for the links I will check it out Us nerds need to stick together!
I'm in my 6th year (I got a little sidetracked) and I totally know what you mean about not wanting a lab of your own. I just don't want that responsibility. I had a bad adviser experience and I would never want to put anyone else through that! Plus, I just don't think research is for me.
Us nerds definitely need to stick together!
Message edited 8/13/2007 3:13:07 PM.
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Posted 8/13/07 3:12 PM |
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