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Certification question

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avamamma
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Certification question

Over 10 years ago I graduated with a degree in Elementary Ed.I had a Provisional Certification. I subbed for 6 months on LI and then took a job teaching 5th grade in a NYC public school. I did that for the remainder of the year and decided not to do it again the following year. Then I got a Pharmaceutical sales job.

I have done that for the last several years. I am now a SAHM.

My question is, if I want to go back to teaching in the future will I need to take the test again?? I extended the certificate 1x and was denied a second extension. Do you need the certificate to teach??? What about in a private/Catholic school???

Is my degree worth nothing, because I stopped working in the field, or can I some how use it again in the future??

Thanks

Posted 3/2/08 11:13 PM
 

donegal419
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K

Re: Certification question

you MUST have the certification to teach in a public school. catholic schools prefer it, but you once had it and you have the degree, so they may be able to make an exception that public schools cannot.

I would contact the state ed. dept. and see what you can do. i would think that you would be able to get it back again... maybe a course or 2 and take the tests again, although i am not sure what they would make you do.

in hindsight, what you shoudl have done is taught in the city one more year and that would have made your certificate permanent. once it's permanent, it never lapses, regardless of how long you may not have been teachinf.

Posted 3/2/08 11:41 PM
 

Erica
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Re: Certification question

I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't have to take the tests again. But you will probably have to cough up the $100 to reapply.

since they didn't extend it, you won't be grandfathered into a permanant cert, you will have to go the initial/professional route (probably). I would call your school's education department and ak them what is the best way to go about it. They will apply for you and handle the paperwork and credits, etc.

Not sure what you will have to do about a Masters degree. Usually you have 5 years to start it and then 5 years from then to finish it, but you may be able to start that timeframe over.

I do have good news. I'm assuming that you have a TRS retirement number (for NYC at least, but hopefully for the subbing)?? Since you have 10 years of membership, you will not have to pay the 3% into the TRS when you go back to work.

Posted 3/3/08 10:20 AM
 

luckyinlove
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Lauren

Re: Certification question

I had to apply for an extension and had to go over the bylaws a hundred times to find a loophole for myself, so I know what youa re going through. I read on the state website that once your certification has expired, you cannot reapply for permanent certification, as your provisional certification has expired. I think that you will need to reapply for provisional and do it over again. go to www.nysed.gov and click on certification FAQ's and it will show you what the deal is. Good Luck! Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 3/3/08 3:45 PM
 

donegal419
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Re: Certification question

Posted by Erica


I do have good news. I'm assuming that you have a TRS retirement number (for NYC at least, but hopefully for the subbing)?? Since you have 10 years of membership, you will not have to pay the 3% into the TRS when you go back to work.



Not sure on this... i think you have to CONTRIBUTE (i.e. money from your paycheck) for 10 years before a district will pay your contribution on your behalf.

Posted 3/3/08 4:33 PM
 

Erica
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Re: Certification question

Posted by donegal419

Posted by Erica


I do have good news. I'm assuming that you have a TRS retirement number (for NYC at least, but hopefully for the subbing)?? Since you have 10 years of membership, you will not have to pay the 3% into the TRS when you go back to work.



Not sure on this... i think you have to CONTRIBUTE (i.e. money from your paycheck) for 10 years before a district will pay your contribution on your behalf.



nope - 10 years of membership OR service. It's definite - I fell into it. I was freaked out when I got the letter and took it to the union rep. She said that it may not be completely fair, but it's how they got the 10 year limit passed.

Throughout your career, the amount of service credit you have will determine your eligibility for benefits. These include loans, vesting rights, disability coverage and death benefits. In addition, with 10 years of membership or credit, Tier 4 members stop making 3% contributions toward their retirement.



http://www.nystrs.org/main/library/handbook/contributions.htm#ServiceCredit

Posted 3/4/08 11:48 PM
 
 

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