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stinger
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Could Pence be worse?
Whatdya think?
It's almost certain that DJT will not last long
Carl Bernstein
Transcript DJT interview
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Posted 1/26/17 6:41 AM |
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ChristinaM128
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Pence could be bad, but I don't think anything could be worse.
I still can't believe what America has done.... I'm so frightened.
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Posted 1/26/17 6:49 AM |
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mrsrainbow
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Could Pence be worse?
I don't know much about Pence other than that he is ultra conservative. I'm hearing some people say the ultimate goal may be to impeach Trump and put Pence in, and that he is far more dangerous. I don't know enough to have an opinion that he truly would be worse but I don't think he's a prize either. I think some people may be desperate enough to believe he's better than Trump when he may not be. Remains to be seen.
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Posted 1/26/17 7:12 AM |
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MrsT809
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Could Pence be worse?
I used to think Pence would be worse. While I do find his values and record very scary, at least we could focus on the real issues rather than all the stupid distractions.
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Posted 1/26/17 7:24 AM |
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Funkybutt
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Could Pence be worse?
I also don't know much about his politics but at this point how much worse can it get? Trump's already taking away women's rights, etc. The big difference would be that Pence wouldn't have a childish ban on the media, force FB to take down photos of his wife, and tell Parks to stop tweeting.
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Posted 1/26/17 7:24 AM |
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klingklang77
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
At this point it's a choice of sane vs. insane, so I'd think Pence would be better.
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Posted 1/26/17 7:38 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
I don't like him but that being said, I don't think he's as mentally unstable and self involved as Trump so I'd take my chances.
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Posted 1/26/17 7:57 AM |
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TheLorax
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Pence is pretty bad too. He would probably go very hard against roe v wade and marriage equality. Also he is pretty anti science. That being said, Trump is really pushing these agendas already anyway, plus he is just mentally unsound. At least Pence isn't addicted to Twitter, has a thick skin and knows how politics work. I would begrudgingly accept Pence over Trump. Plus, I trust him more with the nukes.
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Posted 1/26/17 8:06 AM |
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sameinitials
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Could Pence be worse?
Like I said on another post, I don't like his politics at al but at least with him I wouldn't be scared that the president would have a hissy fit and cause ww3.
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Posted 1/26/17 8:09 AM |
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RainyDay
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Posted by mrsrainbow
I don't know much about Pence other than that he is ultra conservative. I'm hearing some people say the ultimate goal may be to impeach Trump and put Pence in, and that he is far more dangerous. I don't know enough to have an opinion that he truly would be worse but I don't think he's a prize either. I think some people may be desperate enough to believe he's better than Trump when he may not be. Remains to be seen.
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Posted 1/26/17 8:11 AM |
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lululu
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Pence will be worse. I think no matter how unpolished and immature Trump is I think putting someone as conservative as Pence is going to be a real problem.
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Posted 1/26/17 8:15 AM |
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Depends on what you view as worse.
Is Pence more "level headed", meaning less likely to just fly off the handle, get angry and react? I'd bet so.
But he is also FAR more conservative than Trump, and if you're worried about civil rights with Trump, you should be even more concerned about Pence.
I think Trump said what he needed to say about certain topics to get elected, I don't think he is really as conservative as he tried to come of as. But I also think he will do anything to "win" and to piss of those against him, so who flucking knows!
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Posted 1/26/17 9:06 AM |
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Momma2015
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Posted by TheLorax
Pence is pretty bad too. He would probably go very hard against roe v wade and marriage equality. Also he is pretty anti science. That being said, Trump is really pushing these agendas already anyway, plus he is just mentally unsound. At least Pence isn't addicted to Twitter, has a thick skin and knows how politics work. I would begrudgingly accept Pence over Trump. Plus, I trust him more with the nukes.
Pretty much all of this.
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Posted 1/26/17 9:20 AM |
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NervousNell
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Posted by LiveForMoments
Depends on what you view as worse.
Is Pence more "level headed", meaning less likely to just fly off the handle, get angry and react? I'd bet so.
But he is also FAR more conservative than Trump, and if you're worried about civil rights with Trump, you should be even more concerned about Pence.
I think Trump said what he needed to say about certain topics to get elected, I don't think he is really as conservative as he tried to come of as. But I also think he will do anything to "win" and to piss of those against him, so who flucking knows!
All of this.
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Posted 1/26/17 9:20 AM |
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Could Pence be worse?
Pence is scary because he's ultra conservative and would probably actually get stuff done. He'd work well with the republican congress, and they would have common goals. However, so far he doesn't appear to be an unstable narcissist, so he has that going for him.
I don't think the Trump supporters would be happy with him. At least the ones I've talked to know nothing or little about Pence and are surprised when I tell them his record. Many supporters are not social conservatives and don't believe that Trump is either.
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Posted 1/26/17 9:26 AM |
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ohbaby08
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Could Pence be worse?
Pence would be the same policies, but without the insanity. So, it would be similar to any other republican president. Just take out the worry of nuclear war.
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Posted 1/26/17 10:11 AM |
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MandJZ
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Put me in the camp that used to think Pence would be worse. But I agree with those who have said at least with him we don't need to worry about him tweeting the start of nuclear war.
However, I disagree with those who said Trump won't follow through on the conservative ideals he spouted while campaigning. I think he 100% will - because he NEEDS the validation from his supporters. He will do everything he said he did just so that he can say he did it - it could be the worst thing for the country ever, but he'll do it. So the policies will happen either way.
With Pence, at least we have a politician who will work within the political system. Trump doesn't work within any system but the one he's created in his own head, which makes it nearly impossible to work against through any normal, feasible channel. With Pence, there's a clearer path for opposition.
And of course, the whole not tweeting us into destruction thing.
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Posted 1/26/17 10:21 AM |
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2BadSoSad
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
I think Pence would be worse in someways and a welcome relief in others. He is ULTRA CONSERVATIVE which, IMO, is one of the worst possible thing any elected official of mine can be. However, he mentally stable and not a complete irrational lunatic, so, there's that.
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Posted 1/26/17 10:23 AM |
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ElizaRags35
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Posted by MandJZ
Put me in the camp that used to think Pence would be worse. But I agree with those who have said at least with him we don't need to worry about him tweeting the start of nuclear war.
However, I disagree with those who said Trump won't follow through on the conservative ideals he spouted while campaigning. I think he 100% will - because he NEEDS the validation from his supporters. He will do everything he said he did just so that he can say he did it - it could be the worst thing for the country ever, but he'll do it. So the policies will happen either way.
With Pence, at least we have a politician who will work within the political system. Trump doesn't work within any system but the one he's created in his own head, which makes it nearly impossible to work against through any normal, feasible channel. With Pence, there's a clearer path for opposition.
And of course, the whole not tweeting us into destruction thing.
I agree. He's awful and scary but at least he doesn't act like a toddler. And I apologize to toddlers everywhere for comparing them to that imbecile.
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Posted 1/26/17 10:36 AM |
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JME78
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Could Pence be worse?
I don't think I agree with Mike Pence on ANYTHING.
That said, he clearly has respect for the office he holds, for the country and for the government. We won't have to worry about his late night tweets inciting global reactions.
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Posted 1/26/17 10:39 AM |
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TheLorax
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Posted by MandJZ
Put me in the camp that used to think Pence would be worse. But I agree with those who have said at least with him we don't need to worry about him tweeting the start of nuclear war.
However, I disagree with those who said Trump won't follow through on the conservative ideals he spouted while campaigning. I think he 100% will - because he NEEDS the validation from his supporters. He will do everything he said he did just so that he can say he did it - it could be the worst thing for the country ever, but he'll do it. So the policies will happen either way.
With Pence, at least we have a politician who will work within the political system. Trump doesn't work within any system but the one he's created in his own head, which makes it nearly impossible to work against through any normal, feasible channel. With Pence, there's a clearer path for opposition.
And of course, the whole not tweeting us into destruction thing.
Yes, I think he will follow through. He wants to reward those who supported him and punish those who didn't. He definitely holds a grudge and is vengeful.
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Posted 1/26/17 11:04 AM |
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MC09
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Like I mentioned in another post.. with Pence it's all about policy, with Trump it's the insane ramblings of a lunatic+policy. We know where Pence stands on issues. He won't waver. And we know what we're getting - as hardasss conservative as he may be. Trump is a wildcard. He can't be trusted. He will say one thing then turn around and say the opposite. Trump also can't be trusted in regards to Russia. He's vindictive, vengeful, mentally unstable. Pence is calm and reserved.
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Posted 1/26/17 3:32 PM |
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stinger
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Apparently Bannon is running the whole show of executive orders anyway:
Wing it
Disclaimer: not sure if raw story is a great source or not?
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Posted 1/26/17 3:47 PM |
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MrsA1012
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Could Pence be worse?
pence only because he's sane.
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Posted 1/26/17 6:04 PM |
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Bugaboo
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Re: Could Pence be worse?
Posted by MC09
Like I mentioned in another post.. with Pence it's all about policy, with Trump it's the insane ramblings of a lunatic+policy. We know where Pence stands on issues. He won't waver. And we know what we're getting - as hardasss conservative as he may be. Trump is a wildcard. He can't be trusted. He will say one thing then turn around and say the opposite. Trump also can't be trusted in regards to Russia. He's vindictive, vengeful, mentally unstable. Pence is calm and reserved.
ITA. Plus, even though Pence is ultra conservative, I believe he has a heart and a soul. Trump is completely void of both.
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Posted 1/26/17 6:19 PM |
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