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Christine2
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Has anyone heard from their districts? I'm not in Commack, but I was impressed with their plans. Hopefully, others will follow suit.
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PitterPatter11
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Many districts in my area have shared their plans. They all seem similar to this.
I am not a fan of the no mask during instruction. Kids are not stationary - even my HS students. I hope most parents encourage them to wear a mask even during instruction.
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Naturalmama
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I am surprised no masks. Both my school & my kids school require masks all day, except when eating, and they are also all allowed a mask break at some point during the day.
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ave1024
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So let me get this straight for Commack district, BEST case scenario (zero corona deaths / best county metrics) means all secondary schools (middle and high school) are every other day with zero chance of every day?
And elementary schools are every day ONLY if they get at least 50% of the parents to opt out of school busing?
Wow.
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PitterPatter11
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Re: District Reopening Guidelines
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So let me get this straight for Commack district, BEST case scenario (zero corona deaths / best county metrics) means all secondary schools (middle and high school) are every other day with zero chance of every day?
And elementary schools are every day ONLY if they get at least 50% of the parents to opt out of school busing?
Wow.
Yes there is no other way to separate students by 6 feet otherwise.
My son’s district and my work school district are both doing the same thing. Same thing with other neighboring communities. I usually have 28-32 kids per class. The desks touch back to front and there is usually just enough of a walk way between them to squeeze through To get to students - maybe 2 feet at most.
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Naturalmama
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Re: District Reopening Guidelines
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Posted by ave1024
So let me get this straight for Commack district, BEST case scenario (zero corona deaths / best county metrics) means all secondary schools (middle and high school) are every other day with zero chance of every day?
And elementary schools are every day ONLY if they get at least 50% of the parents to opt out of school busing?
Wow.
Yes there is no other way to separate students by 6 feet otherwise.
My son’s district and my work school district are both doing the same thing. Same thing with other neighboring communities. I usually have 28-32 kids per class. The desks touch back to front and there is usually just enough of a walk way between them to squeeze through To get to students - maybe 2 feet at most.
But then I don't get how elementary kids can go full time if 50% of parents opt out of busing? What does that have to do with the amount of kids in the classrooms?
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PitterPatter11
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Re: District Reopening Guidelines
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by ave1024
So let me get this straight for Commack district, BEST case scenario (zero corona deaths / best county metrics) means all secondary schools (middle and high school) are every other day with zero chance of every day?
And elementary schools are every day ONLY if they get at least 50% of the parents to opt out of school busing?
Wow.
Yes there is no other way to separate students by 6 feet otherwise.
My son’s district and my work school district are both doing the same thing. Same thing with other neighboring communities. I usually have 28-32 kids per class. The desks touch back to front and there is usually just enough of a walk way between them to squeeze through To get to students - maybe 2 feet at most.
But then I don't get how elementary kids can go full time if 50% of parents opt out of busing? What does that have to do with the amount ofo kids in the classrooms?
My district is offering 100% virtual as an option. They are hoping this will reduce class size. So far 25% of parents have chosen this option. They will then be splitting up classes and utilizing every space in the school for grade level instruction (Musi, art, Gym spaces). Specials will go to the students. They will be splitting one section of students into two. Teacher will be in the room 50% of the time and TA will be in there the other 50%. They might also change elementary to the MS or HS building where there is more space.
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ave1024
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Re: District Reopening Guidelines
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by ave1024
So let me get this straight for Commack district, BEST case scenario (zero corona deaths / best county metrics) means all secondary schools (middle and high school) are every other day with zero chance of every day?
And elementary schools are every day ONLY if they get at least 50% of the parents to opt out of school busing?
Wow.
Yes there is no other way to separate students by 6 feet otherwise.
My son’s district and my work school district are both doing the same thing. Same thing with other neighboring communities. I usually have 28-32 kids per class. The desks touch back to front and there is usually just enough of a walk way between them to squeeze through To get to students - maybe 2 feet at most.
But then I don't get how elementary kids can go full time if 50% of parents opt out of busing? What does that have to do with the amount of kids in the classrooms?
Commack claims that they have spare unused rooms in the elementary school to accommodate smaller classrooms with social distancing. Call it the A and B side of the building. The teachers will teach the A side in the morning and the B side in the afternoon. When not teaching I guess there will be subs and TAs watching the kids. They do not have the same luxury of space in the secondary schools.
The issue with busing remains though, they can only allow 50% capacity on the bus routes and they will NOT be hiring more bus companies. So if half the elementary kids don’t opt out of busing, the school will then force alternate days for elementary as well as that would then solve the bus issue. If you are opting out of busing you are opting out for the entire 20-21 school year.
Crazy. Who makes the call when we no longer have to social distance. Doesn’t sound like that’s going to happen until after the 2021 school year if they are already preparing people to opt out of busing for all of 20-21 school.
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KarenK122
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Most districts I think are going to have similar plans. It was interesting to hear his view on transportation because I think that is the biggest hurdle of all. Our district won't put out their plan until the 31st. I would be interested in seeing what the actual plans are for teaching those who do not want to be in school, virtually. Are they putting cameras in the classroom or is is all remote? And if it is remote how do they have so many extra teachers. There are so many questions.
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Cruisin
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Our district can house all the elementary students every day with social distancing (no word on bussing but interesting point noted above). MS and HS are on a hybrid. Most likely group A goes to school Mon and Tues, everyone home Wed for a deep clean and group B goes to school Thurs. and Fri. (Originally there were talks of this just being A/B alternating every other day but they have since changed it- I have a good friend on the task force).
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Posted by KarenK122
Most districts I think are going to have similar plans. It was interesting to hear his view on transportation because I think that is the biggest hurdle of all. Our district won't put out their plan until the 31st. I would be interested in seeing what the actual plans are for teaching those who do not want to be in school, virtually. Are they putting cameras in the classroom or is is all remote? And if it is remote how do they have so many extra teachers. There are so many questions.
They don’t. Full day school will mean your child has a sub or ta for a chunk of the day
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Posted by KarenK122
Most districts I think are going to have similar plans. It was interesting to hear his view on transportation because I think that is the biggest hurdle of all. Our district won't put out their plan until the 31st. I would be interested in seeing what the actual plans are for teaching those who do not want to be in school, virtually. Are they putting cameras in the classroom or is is all remote? And if it is remote how do they have so many extra teachers. There are so many questions.
They don’t. Full day school will mean your child has a sub or ta for a chunk of the day
Maybe I misunderstood the video, but I thought it said that the students not with their teacher would be with specials teachers for art, music, special services if they get them for at least part of the time. This seems ideal to me, many districts don’t have the extra space so I think this is a great plan. I’d give up the bus for a year and carpool with neighbors if it meant school 5 days a week.
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PatsBrat
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Re: District Reopening Guidelines
Posted by ap123
Posted by mommywantsababy
Posted by KarenK122
Most districts I think are going to have similar plans. It was interesting to hear his view on transportation because I think that is the biggest hurdle of all. Our district won't put out their plan until the 31st. I would be interested in seeing what the actual plans are for teaching those who do not want to be in school, virtually. Are they putting cameras in the classroom or is is all remote? And if it is remote how do they have so many extra teachers. There are so many questions.
They don’t. Full day school will mean your child has a sub or ta for a chunk of the day
Maybe I misunderstood the video, but I thought it said that the students not with their teacher would be with specials teachers for art, music, special services if they get them for at least part of the time. This seems ideal to me, many districts don’t have the extra space so I think this is a great plan. I’d give up the bus for a year and carpool with neighbors if it meant school 5 days a week.
You are correct. When students are not with their classroom teachers they will be with special area teachers or support staff.
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Naturalmama
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That is the plan our school has as well. Enough room for all children to be in school M-F, all day. Each class will be divided into "group A" and "group B". When a group is not with their teacher, they will be in another classroom with an aide. The children will stay in the same classroom, it is the teacher and the aide that will switch. Honestly, not sure I see any of this working.
I am beginning to think if we can't do regular school, do remote school. And I am the biggest supporter of buildings reopening in September. But I am not sure this will be a great education either.
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NervousNell
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Posted by Naturalmama
That is the plan our school has as well. Enough room for all children to be in school M-F, all day. Each class will be divided into "group A" and "group B". When a group is not with their teacher, they will be in another classroom with an aide. The children will stay in the same classroom, it is the teacher and the aide that will switch. Honestly, not sure I see any of this working.
I am beginning to think if we can't do regular school, do remote school. And I am the biggest supporter of buildings reopening in September. But I am not sure this will be a great education either.
It's got to be better than remote.
This actually sounds like a dream . Have the teachers come to them, split them up, do whatever, but not remote where they post busy work, videos, and apps to teach them math. My daughter had zero interaction with a teacher since March, and it shows.
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Posted by Naturalmama
That is the plan our school has as well. Enough room for all children to be in school M-F, all day. Each class will be divided into "group A" and "group B". When a group is not with their teacher, they will be in another classroom with an aide. The children will stay in the same classroom, it is the teacher and the aide that will switch. Honestly, not sure I see any of this working.
I am beginning to think if we can't do regular school, do remote school. And I am the biggest supporter of buildings reopening in September. But I am not sure this will be a great education either.
It's got to be better than remote.
This actually sounds like a dream . Have he teachers come to them, split them up, do whatever, but not remote where they post busy work, videos, and apps to teach them math. My daughter had zero interaction with a teacher since March, and it shows.
I hope my school does this as well. Unfortunately though, DS 1 is going into middle school which I doubt has room to work like this so he will probably be on a hybrid schedule. He needs less socialization though as he is involved in more activities and can socialize there.
ETA - our district hasn't revealed plans yet but, I'm not expecting anything beofre 7/31. And hopefully they are blessed by Cuomo.
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MrsT809
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I would be thrilled with that plan but many other districts will not have the space or money to make this work unfortunately.
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i skimmed through it and I would be happy with what was proposed.
I am extremely happy that kids are not expected to wear masks all day because in reality they would never keep them on correctly all day anyway and they would probably be playing with them. I for one don't want my kid touch to their face unnecessarily all day; even before covid I didn't want them too cause thats how they get sick with the stomach virus and other crap!
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KarenK122
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Re: District Reopening Guidelines
Posted by PatsBrat
Posted by ap123
Posted by mommywantsababy
Posted by KarenK122
Most districts I think are going to have similar plans. It was interesting to hear his view on transportation because I think that is the biggest hurdle of all. Our district won't put out their plan until the 31st. I would be interested in seeing what the actual plans are for teaching those who do not want to be in school, virtually. Are they putting cameras in the classroom or is is all remote? And if it is remote how do they have so many extra teachers. There are so many questions.
They don’t. Full day school will mean your child has a sub or ta for a chunk of the day
Maybe I misunderstood the video, but I thought it said that the students not with their teacher would be with specials teachers for art, music, special services if they get them for at least part of the time. This seems ideal to me, many districts don’t have the extra space so I think this is a great plan. I’d give up the bus for a year and carpool with neighbors if it meant school 5 days a week.
You are correct. When students are not with their classroom teachers they will be with special area teachers or support staff.
What I meant is that if the district is doing their full day plan their teachers will be busy all day with their am and pm groups. Who is teaching the kids who are opting to do all their classes remotely. There is no staff left to do that unless they plan on hiring a bunch of teachers.
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NervousNell
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Posted by blu6385
i skimmed through it and I would be happy with what was proposed.
I am extremely happy that kids are not expected to wear masks all day because in reality they would never keep them on correctly all day anyway and they would probably be playing with them. I for one don't want my kid touch to their face unnecessarily all day; even before covid I didn't want them too cause thats how they get sick with the stomach virus and other crap!
Not to mention the heat in most schools in September. My DD's school is BRUTAL when it's hot or humid. Wearing a mask for 5 hours or whatever in that kind of heat and humidity would be awful
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Posted by NervousNell
Posted by blu6385
i skimmed through it and I would be happy with what was proposed.
I am extremely happy that kids are not expected to wear masks all day because in reality they would never keep them on correctly all day anyway and they would probably be playing with them. I for one don't want my kid touch to their face unnecessarily all day; even before covid I didn't want them too cause thats how they get sick with the stomach virus and other crap!
Not to mention the heat in most schools in September. My DD's school is BRUTAL when it's hot or humid. Wearing a mask for 5 hours or whatever in that kind of heat and humidity would be awful
i was outside this weekend at night wearing mask on line waiting for Carvel and there where 3 people in front of me. by the time i got in my car my face was starting to really sweat!
I cant believe people are in freaking Disney world right now in that heat with a mask on all day!! I would die wearing it. And bravo to those who can wear it all day in the freaking heat my asss would never survive it!
i do feel horrible for my kids camp counselors who have to wear them; esp. this week. I dont even know why they have to wear them outside when the kids dont if it was up to me i would tell them not too! And this camp is all all day outdoor one!
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PitterPatter11
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Posted by NervousNell
Posted by blu6385
i skimmed through it and I would be happy with what was proposed.
I am extremely happy that kids are not expected to wear masks all day because in reality they would never keep them on correctly all day anyway and they would probably be playing with them. I for one don't want my kid touch to their face unnecessarily all day; even before covid I didn't want them too cause thats how they get sick with the stomach virus and other crap!
Not to mention the heat in most schools in September. My DD's school is BRUTAL when it's hot or humid. Wearing a mask for 5 hours or whatever in that kind of heat and humidity would be awful
I get what you are saying but this just supports that ventilation in schools is terrible and that masks should be worn.
I am happy that schools in NY open “late” compared to other regions. Unfortunately, those teachers and students will be used as a science experiment for the country and we can evaluate if they were successful in limiting the spread.
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ave1024
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Re: District Reopening Guidelines
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by PatsBrat
Posted by ap123
Posted by mommywantsababy
Posted by KarenK122
Most districts I think are going to have similar plans. It was interesting to hear his view on transportation because I think that is the biggest hurdle of all. Our district won't put out their plan until the 31st. I would be interested in seeing what the actual plans are for teaching those who do not want to be in school, virtually. Are they putting cameras in the classroom or is is all remote? And if it is remote how do they have so many extra teachers. There are so many questions.
They don’t. Full day school will mean your child has a sub or ta for a chunk of the day
Maybe I misunderstood the video, but I thought it said that the students not with their teacher would be with specials teachers for art, music, special services if they get them for at least part of the time. This seems ideal to me, many districts don’t have the extra space so I think this is a great plan. I’d give up the bus for a year and carpool with neighbors if it meant school 5 days a week.
You are correct. When students are not with their classroom teachers they will be with special area teachers or support staff.
What I meant is that if the district is doing their full day plan their teachers will be busy all day with their am and pm groups. Who is teaching the kids who are opting to do all their classes remotely. There is no staff left to do that unless they plan on hiring a bunch of teachers.
He answered this in the video, somewhat. He said he would take it case by case and either provide more PPE, give out some "home instruction" (which will probably look similar to what we did in March), or you can choose to homeschool. They aren't going to put cameras in the classrooms so those who choose to keep their kids home can dial in to the classroom. And you know the teachers aren't working any more hours than what the unions dictate.
He already said he isn't hiring more teachers. They aren't going to "open another school, or building full of staff" as he said.
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KarenK122
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Re: District Reopening Guidelines
Posted by ave1024
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by PatsBrat
Posted by ap123
Posted by mommywantsababy
Posted by KarenK122
Most districts I think are going to have similar plans. It was interesting to hear his view on transportation because I think that is the biggest hurdle of all. Our district won't put out their plan until the 31st. I would be interested in seeing what the actual plans are for teaching those who do not want to be in school, virtually. Are they putting cameras in the classroom or is is all remote? And if it is remote how do they have so many extra teachers. There are so many questions.
They don’t. Full day school will mean your child has a sub or ta for a chunk of the day
Maybe I misunderstood the video, but I thought it said that the students not with their teacher would be with specials teachers for art, music, special services if they get them for at least part of the time. This seems ideal to me, many districts don’t have the extra space so I think this is a great plan. I’d give up the bus for a year and carpool with neighbors if it meant school 5 days a week.
You are correct. When students are not with their classroom teachers they will be with special area teachers or support staff.
What I meant is that if the district is doing their full day plan their teachers will be busy all day with their am and pm groups. Who is teaching the kids who are opting to do all their classes remotely. There is no staff left to do that unless they plan on hiring a bunch of teachers.
He answered this in the video, somewhat. He said he would take it case by case and either provide more PPE, give out some "home instruction" (which will probably look similar to what we did in March), or you can choose to homeschool. They aren't going to put cameras in the classrooms so those who choose to keep their kids home can dial in to the classroom. And you know the teachers aren't working any more hours than what the unions dictate.
He already said he isn't hiring more teachers. They aren't going to "open another school, or building full of staff" as he said.
Thanks. I am on my districts reopening task force and I know this part of the puzzle is going to be difficult. I appreciate the clarification : ).
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