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lbelle821
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
In the very end if it does lead to a label than I'd still rather have gotten the help earlier rather than be sitting in the same place 5 years later with other labels knowing that I could have done something to help but didn't because I was worried about a label, kwim?
That's not directed at the OP by the way, i do understand why you're asking the question. When I called EI I got a lot of sympathy from family and friend to try and "console" me about DS being behind with gross motor and how it didn't mean that there was anything wrong with him. And the thing is that at that point I just wanted him to be where he was supposed to be. There was no shame. No hiding. No denial. I just wanted him to have the tools to thrive. If it lead to a label than so be it because there are plenty of special things about my son that no one can take away.
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justthe4ofus
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
Posted by smdl
Posted by MamaNDaddyof3
i just wanted to say that there is no shame if your child needs services
dd got a 6 mth trial of speech services and then did not qualify after that .....6 months was all she needed and now she speaks wonderfully
when you enter kindergarten they asked if she was in any ot/pt speech therapy etc and i just said she was and that was it dd is now in 2nd grade and we have never been asked again
We never thought it was shameless. I think DH is just concerned that our son will be labeled as having speech issues and the teachers will treat him differently. KWIM?
I am a teacher and we do not treat our students differently that have services. In fact in 2 of my classes 1/4 of the kids have some kinds of modifications/ services. It is very common now a days and viewed much differently than when we were kids
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| Posted 10/6/08 8:23 PM |
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
Posted by colesmom
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
Both EI and labels are very chique today.
Could you explain what you mean by this because its sounding REALLY insensitive and offensive ..... but it is a chat board and some things can be misread in a different tone.
And to the OP ... EI services (up until age 3 - 3.5) are completely confidential and at your transition meeting into CPSE (services through your district) you can have the files destroyed if you so wish.
I was talking to someone, the OP, who I believe understands my humor and my way of making a point. For once, today I don't really care about sounding PC on these boards. I have my reasons to feel that way today.
If you quote me, please quote the full text of my post. Thank you. I think I made my point. A mom does not have to worry so much about a child being "labeled," nowadays because there is a growing trend toward the view that the benefit of getting services outweighs any negatives. That is what I wanted to tell my friend, here but I didn't have an hour to ponder the acceptable wording.
Perhaps I am older than you are. When I was a kid, parents went to great extremes to avoid labels. The tide has changed, hence the JOKE that labels are chique. It was also a pun and a reference to the fashion industry but perhaps that went over some heads. Sorry.
I'm glad you clarified since she wasn't the only one that found your comment insensitive and offensive.
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| Posted 10/6/08 8:28 PM |
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smdl
I love Gary too..on a plate!
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
Posted by colesmom
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
Both EI and labels are very chique today.
Could you explain what you mean by this because its sounding REALLY insensitive and offensive ..... but it is a chat board and some things can be misread in a different tone.
And to the OP ... EI services (up until age 3 - 3.5) are completely confidential and at your transition meeting into CPSE (services through your district) you can have the files destroyed if you so wish.
I was talking to someone, the OP, who I believe understands my humor and my way of making a point. For once, today I don't really care about sounding PC on these boards. I have my reasons to feel that way today.
If you quote me, please quote the full text of my post. Thank you. I think I made my point. A mom does not have to worry so much about a child being "labeled," nowadays because there is a growing trend toward the view that the benefit of getting services outweighs any negatives. That is what I wanted to tell my friend, here but I didn't have an hour to ponder the acceptable wording.
Perhaps I am older than you are. When I was a kid, parents went to great extremes to avoid labels. The tide has changed, hence the JOKE that labels are chique. It was also a pun and a reference to the fashion industry but perhaps that went over some heads. Sorry.
I understood Kerie since I know her.
Kerie, I think you hit it right on the nail. When I was a kid, kids getting help where labeled as "slow", placed in a different class.
I am sure that has changed and this is why I posted. I wanted some input from all mommies, those who used the services and what other people are thinking.
In the end, like other posters said, I will not really care what other people think if I do what I think is best for DS. I am glad to hear times have changed.
Thanks everyone!!!!
ETA: Again this thread was not about DS being above EI, who is smarter than who, etc. But just me a mommy who wants the best for her son. 
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| Posted 10/6/08 8:30 PM |
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colesmom
Brady's mom too!
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
Posted by colesmom
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
Both EI and labels are very chique today.
Could you explain what you mean by this because its sounding REALLY insensitive and offensive ..... but it is a chat board and some things can be misread in a different tone.
And to the OP ... EI services (up until age 3 - 3.5) are completely confidential and at your transition meeting into CPSE (services through your district) you can have the files destroyed if you so wish.
I was talking to someone, the OP, who I believe understands my humor and my way of making a point. For once, today I don't really care about sounding PC on these boards. I have my reasons to feel that way today.
If you quote me, please quote the full text of my post. Thank you. I think I made my point. A mom does not have to worry so much about a child being "labeled," nowadays because there is a growing trend toward the view that the benefit of getting services outweighs any negatives. That is what I wanted to tell my friend, here but I didn't have an hour to ponder the acceptable wording.
Perhaps I am older than you are. When I was a kid, parents went to great extremes to avoid labels. The tide has changed, hence the JOKE that labels are chique. It was also a pun and a reference to the fashion industry but perhaps that went over some heads. Sorry.
I'm not looking to pick a fight .... nor am I the most "PC" person around .... thats why i asked you to clarify. Yep, the fashion industry label reference went way over my head. Sorry for that. Look, we all have bad days - sorry you're having one today.
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| Posted 10/6/08 8:37 PM |
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browneyedgirl
family is all that matters
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
as a mom and a teacher, i would have no problem with my son being labeled.
and if he does get EI before school actually begins, i will MAKE SURE the teachers know about it! as a teacher, i appreciate knowing if a child had any type of delay. i make sure that i give that child extra attention and i can alert parents if i notice anything i'm concerned about. it's good to know that a child had a speech delay because it could possibly affect later learning. the more a teacher knows, the more she can help the child.
i don't care what goes into my son's file because i know the files are pointless. it doesn't matter what's in them. if he needs EI, i don't mind it being in his file because it will mean that future teachers can help him more due to the added knowledge.
i don't know why people always assume (general statement) that teachers treat students in an obviously different manner.  i would NEVER do that and i don't know anyone who would. knowledge is power. power leads to a better education.
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| Posted 10/6/08 9:09 PM |
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KateDevine
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
Sophie, tell DH that the "permanent record" they always threatened us with doesn't really exist!
Anyway, I think that both you and DH obviously want the best for EJ and that you will do what is best for him. But I do know what your DH meant about being concerned about that type of label, but like many of the other girls have said, those things are not going to change anything when he gets to school.
My BIL is 12 now, but from 2-3 he received early intervention, then from 3-9 he was in inclusion. But as of 5th grade, two years ago, he was fully matriculated and doing amazing. Honor student, ton of friends and no more services. And honestly, no one remembers he was ever in EI or inclusion.
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| Posted 10/6/08 9:15 PM |
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gpsyeyes
She's my world!!!
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
I have a question about the EI - at 16 months, are they supposed to be talking so much? My baby book says at this age she should use 3-6 words, I think. My DD understands EVERYTHING we say, but only says a handful of words. Should I be concerned??
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smdl
I love Gary too..on a plate!
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
Posted by gpsyeyes
I have a question about the EI - at 16 months, are they supposed to be talking so much? My baby book says at this age she should use 3-6 words, I think. My DD understands EVERYTHING we say, but only says a handful of words. Should I be concerned??
The EI would not be just because of the talking but to make sure there is not a correlation with his feeding and his speech.
But more of WHY he does not want food.
It would be a speech/feeding therapy. Or at least an evaluation.
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| Posted 10/6/08 9:22 PM |
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gpsyeyes
She's my world!!!
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
Thanks for responding! I didn't realize the feeding issue could play into the speech - I learn so much around here!
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| Posted 10/6/08 9:25 PM |
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Sunshyne
LIF Adolescent
Member since 9/07 563 total posts
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Elissa
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
The EI program is completely confidential and the records are closed & expunged after the child ages out of the system (the day before the 3rd birthday, unless the child goes on to pre-school services). About 4 months before your baby turns 3, you will have the option of referring to CPSE,the pre-school program, CPSE is through your school district. For both programs, the kids are evaluated and have to meet certain criteria to qualify.
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| Posted 10/6/08 9:43 PM |
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
Posted by colesmom
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
Posted by colesmom
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
Both EI and labels are very chique today.
Could you explain what you mean by this because its sounding REALLY insensitive and offensive ..... but it is a chat board and some things can be misread in a different tone.
And to the OP ... EI services (up until age 3 - 3.5) are completely confidential and at your transition meeting into CPSE (services through your district) you can have the files destroyed if you so wish.
I was talking to someone, the OP, who I believe understands my humor and my way of making a point. For once, today I don't really care about sounding PC on these boards. I have my reasons to feel that way today.
If you quote me, please quote the full text of my post. Thank you. I think I made my point. A mom does not have to worry so much about a child being "labeled," nowadays because there is a growing trend toward the view that the benefit of getting services outweighs any negatives. That is what I wanted to tell my friend, here but I didn't have an hour to ponder the acceptable wording.
Perhaps I am older than you are. When I was a kid, parents went to great extremes to avoid labels. The tide has changed, hence the JOKE that labels are chique. It was also a pun and a reference to the fashion industry but perhaps that went over some heads. Sorry.
I'm not looking to pick a fight .... nor am I the most "PC" person around .... thats why i asked you to clarify. Yep, the fashion industry label reference went way over my head. Sorry for that. Look, we all have bad days - sorry you're having one today.
I'm not going to deny having a bad day today. Also, there is a back story that has nothing to do with this thread or EI or "labels." Yesterday, I wanted to say something about myself on here but it also relates to the stereotypes about my own ethnic group and how I fit them. I didn't tell the story but I felt bad when I realized that just acknowedging a stereotype could cause an argument. Today I didn't want to worry about what I say. I'm sorry to turn this thread around because of unrelated issues and sorry if I offended anyone. I don't know what the future holds for my DS because he is so young, so I'm not looking to insult any parents' decisions and I am surely not looking to insult innocent children.
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| Posted 10/6/08 9:45 PM |
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KateDevine
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
Posted by Sunshyne
The EI program is completely confidential and the records are closed & expunged after the child ages out of the system (the day before the 3rd birthday, unless the child goes on to pre-school services). About 4 months before your baby turns 3, you will have the option of referring to CPSE,the pre-school program, CPSE is through your school district. For both programs, the kids are evaluated and have to meet certain criteria to qualify.
Off topic, but is this really true? I have to sometimes get these records for my job (always with the parent's permission) and they are available to us years later
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Sunshyne
LIF Adolescent
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by Sunshyne
The EI program is completely confidential and the records are closed & expunged after the child ages out of the system (the day before the 3rd birthday, unless the child goes on to pre-school services). About 4 months before your baby turns 3, you will have the option of referring to CPSE,the pre-school program, CPSE is through your school district. For both programs, the kids are evaluated and have to meet certain criteria to qualify.
Off topic, but is this really true? I have to sometimes get these records for my job (always with the parent's permission) and they are available to us years later
They're supposed to- if the child goes on to CPSE,sometimes the EI records go with them for continuity or to support the need for continued services. But only with the parents' permission. EI is under HIPAA, so great lengths are taken to remain compliant.
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| Posted 10/6/08 9:54 PM |
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KateDevine
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Re: EI and being "labeled"
Posted by Sunshyne
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by Sunshyne
The EI program is completely confidential and the records are closed & expunged after the child ages out of the system (the day before the 3rd birthday, unless the child goes on to pre-school services). About 4 months before your baby turns 3, you will have the option of referring to CPSE,the pre-school program, CPSE is through your school district. For both programs, the kids are evaluated and have to meet certain criteria to qualify.
Off topic, but is this really true? I have to sometimes get these records for my job (always with the parent's permission) and they are available to us years later
They're supposed to- if the child goes on to CPSE,sometimes the EI records go with them for continuity or to support the need for continued services. But only with the parents' permission. EI is under HIPAA, so great lengths are taken to remain compliant.
I use the HIPAA forms for work.
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| Posted 10/6/08 9:57 PM |
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Sophie, he is so young this may resolve itself before preschool. But even If he needs speech in preschool, all these services are SO common teachers don't bat an eye. It seems like every kid qualifies for ei for one thing or another, many have had speech in my family, they get it and then they are done with it. Teachers have to deal with so many issues in their general education classes, that a child who received speech as a baby won't be a blip on their radar, I PROMISE! This is a common issue parents bring up At ifsp meetings. Its completely understandable!
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