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Mommy2Boys
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I think I can win an award for having the World's WORST Sleeper (just need to vent AGAIN)
He is 4 1/2 months old and still NOT sleeping at night. He is so inconsistent. Two night ago he went down at 10:30 and didnt wake until 4:30 for a bottle and went back down til 6:30. Last night he went down at 10:30 and was up at 12:30 for a bottle and than 3:30 (gave him a bottle), 4:30, 5:30 and was up at 6:30 this morning. My ped. told me I have to start letting him cry but I can't...his room is right next to Tyler's and he is already waking TJ up. Last night TJ got up twice because he heard Derek.
On top of that, I can't stand listening to him cry. And not because it makes me sad, but because his cry is so ear piercing...it's like a scream. God forgive me...I feel terrible even saying it but it sends chills through my body like listening to someone scratch their nails on a chalkboard  Sometimes when he cries it is so bone chilling that one of my dogs howls and cries (which only raises my anxiety level because you can imagine how loud that is on top of his cry) and my other dog pee's in my house  The only way I can let him CIO is if I put him downstairs in our den in his PNP and go back upstairs to bed and close our door.
I am so tired that I am cranky and easily irritated and taking it out on TJ because I am home all day with him. I feel I am being so hard on him and yelling at him for things I normally wouldnt. I think he actually kind of understands how stressed out I am. I just feel I am so tired I am not being a good mom. Half the time I want to put my head through a freakin wall I actually enjoy and look forward going to work the 2 days I do so I can have a break and peace and quiet. It just wasnt like this when TJ was a baby...than again he was a much easier baby. I guess I partially feel guilty for that.
At 4 1/2 mo. would you let him CIO for a short period of time downstairs in the PNP at night? I feel like its never going to get better and he is just developing a bad habit.
I thought about a white noise machine but I dont even think that would work because when he was sick I put a humidifier in his room thinking the noise would make him sleep and guess what, it didn't. I think he actually woke up more. He is such a LIGHT, RESTLESS sleeper...I literally have to tip toe around him if he falls asleep. And of course when he does nap during the day, TJ has to be the loudest he possibly can. It has gotten to the point I tell TJ "please be quiet, we dont want to listen to Baby Derek cry, do we?"
ETA: Another thing is, he truely is a happy baby. It's just getting him to nap and sleep that is a PIA!!! He never really gets cranky even without sleep. For the most part he is always smiley and laughing.
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kerrycec03
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Re: I think I can win an award for having the World's WORST Sleeper (just need to vent AGAIN)
oh man, I could have written the same thing when Liam was around that age. My DS has never been the stronger sleeper and doesn't get cranky. Not until he started crawling and really moving did he FINALLY nap!!! Hang in there, it does get easier
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aliwnec10
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Re: I think I can win an award for having the World's WORST Sleeper (just need to vent AGAIN)
First off... 
My son is 18 1/2 months old now and i know exactly what you're going through. If you do a search on my posts from last year... you'll see what a wreck he was. He was the worlds WORST sleeper. Although i can't really blame it totally on him. I won't even tell you when he finally started STTN. 
What i do know is consistency is key and routine routine routine. Jacen is 100% a routine baby and if you go off schedule even the slightest... game over. He's done and then you pay the price. 
My suggestions... get a noise machine for his room. Even if you don't think it helps, get one so that you don't have to tip toe around. 2nd... get him to nap. He's not sleeping at night because he's not napping during the day and not napping enough. Do what you have to do to get him back on track.  Easier said than done, i realize.
My son was such a wreck that we had to do CIO at 5 1/2 months. We had to do it. He was getting up like 5 times a night and only napping for 40 minutes at best. CIO was our life saver. We both work FT and we just couldn't do it anymore. It was SO hard, but SO necessary and the best thing we ever did. 
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| Posted 1/16/10 7:46 AM |
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Bxgell2
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Re: I think I can win an award for having the World's WORST Sleeper (just need to vent AGAIN)
I lived those days with Alex, until she was almost a year old It was god-awful, and on top of it, I was working full-time at a law firm starting at 10 weeks post-partum!
Look, you do what you have to do - they "say" you shouldn't CIO until 5-6 months, but I think your sanity, your other child's sanity and your little's one's development and growth while he sleeps soundly at night is also a significant, and important priority.
Some people flamed me, but I started a modified CIO for Yael when she was around 4 months. Instead of letting her cry all out in her crib at bedtime, I would hold her in my arms, rock a little, and she would cry to sleep. It usually only took about 5 minutes, for about a week, and then she started learning how to self soothe.
Do what works for you and your family
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| Posted 1/16/10 7:56 AM |
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: I think I can win an award for having the World's WORST Sleeper (just need to vent AGAIN)
Posted by aliwnec10
First off...
My son is 18 1/2 months old now and i know exactly what you're going through. If you do a search on my posts from last year... you'll see what a wreck he was. He was the worlds WORST sleeper. Although i can't really blame it totally on him. I won't even tell you when he finally started STTN.
What i do know is consistency is key and routine routine routine. Jacen is 100% a routine baby and if you go off schedule even the slightest... game over. He's done and then you pay the price.
My suggestions... get a noise machine for his room. Even if you don't think it helps, get one so that you don't have to tip toe around. 2nd... get him to nap. He's not sleeping at night because he's not napping during the day and not napping enough. Do what you have to do to get him back on track. Easier said than done, i realize.
My son was such a wreck that we had to do CIO at 5 1/2 months. We had to do it. He was getting up like 5 times a night and only napping for 40 minutes at best. CIO was our life saver. We both work FT and we just couldn't do it anymore. It was SO hard, but SO necessary and the best thing we ever did.
TJ was 100% routine and still is. He is a GREAT sleeper. At 2 1/2 he still naps 2-3 hours a day and sleeps from 9-7 at night.
With Derek, I feel like he has no routine, no sleep pattern, nothing. Even his feeding is all over the place still. He is not consistant with anything, including bottles. I feel like it is partially my fault because I was so on top of TJ and getting him on a schedule but now with Derek, I feel I can't focus 100% on him because I do also have TJ and need to give him time and attention too, KWIM?
What kind of noise machine? Should I get the animals that makes the heart beat sounds or something else?
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: I think I can win an award for having the World's WORST Sleeper (just need to vent AGAIN)
Posted by Bxgell2
I lived those days with Alex, until she was almost a year old It was god-awful, and on top of it, I was working full-time at a law firm starting at 10 weeks post-partum!
Look, you do what you have to do - they "say" you shouldn't CIO until 5-6 months, but I think your sanity, your other child's sanity and your little's one's development and growth while he sleeps soundly at night is also a significant, and important priority.
Some people flamed me, but I started a modified CIO for Yael when she was around 4 months. Instead of letting her cry all out in her crib at bedtime, I would hold her in my arms, rock a little, and she would cry to sleep. It usually only took about 5 minutes, for about a week, and then she started learning how to self soothe.
Do what works for you and your family
I dont think I would put him down and let him cry for an hour but my ped. said I should start letting him cry for 5-10 min. He may just need to wear himself down. I feel he has a hard time soothing himself or going to sleep when he really needs to.
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gottaluvmusik
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Re: I think I can win an award for having the World's WORST Sleeper (just need to vent AGAIN)
I know how hard it is Cadi still wakes up at 4am... But we did do cry it out when she was about 4 months... we had to because she never wanted to sleep.
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| Posted 1/16/10 8:24 AM |
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aliwnec10
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Re: I think I can win an award for having the World's WORST Sleeper (just need to vent AGAIN)
Posted by jellybean1420
TJ was 100% routine and still is. He is a GREAT sleeper. At 2 1/2 he still naps 2-3 hours a day and sleeps from 9-7 at night.
With Derek, I feel like he has no routine, no sleep pattern, nothing. Even his feeding is all over the place still. He is not consistant with anything, including bottles. I feel like it is partially my fault because I was so on top of TJ and getting him on a schedule but now with Derek, I feel I can't focus 100% on him because I do also have TJ and need to give him time and attention too, KWIM?
What kind of noise machine? Should I get the animals that makes the heart beat sounds or something else?
well what kind of schedule is Derek on? Like what is his awake time in between naps? Maybe you're putting him down too late? i know my son couldn't last long at all in between and could only last like an hour and 15 minutes or hour and a half tops.  He just needed a lot of sleep.
We have this noise machine. nothing special but we've been using it since day 1. It does have i think 8 or 10 different sound choices. We use the ocean waves one.
Sound Sleeper
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aliwnec10
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Re: I think I can win an award for having the World's WORST Sleeper (just need to vent AGAIN)
Posted by jellybean1420
I dont think I would put him down and let him cry for an hour but my ped. said I should start letting him cry for 5-10 min. He may just need to wear himself down. I feel he has a hard time soothing himself or going to sleep when he really needs to.
Well do what you are comfortable with. Set a limit of 10 minutes. "Most" babies don't even need that long. That was not the case for jacen , but maybe Derek just needs 5 minutes.
I know how hard it is to hear them cry. We've had to do CIO many many times with jacen. Way too many. I suggest not sitting there listening to him cry. Vacuum, do laundry, clean or do whatever you can to not listen to it.
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mom2aidan
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Re: I think I can win an award for having the World's WORST Sleeper (just need to vent AGAIN)
My son is 4 months and we are in the same boat. My mom claims he is a big baby so he's hungry and it'll be better when I start solids but I don't believe it.
I think he sleeps too much during the day. I tried to keep him awake the other evening and he FLIPPED out!! He ROARED until I swaddled him and put him in the swing!
No advice, but I'm right there with you.
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