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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
Posted by MrsRbk
My daughter is only 8.5 months old, so I don't need to explain anything just yet. However, if/when the time comes, we will explain it to her the same way we will explain why we don't celebrate Christmas
exactly what she said
ETA: I moved from Queens going to YESHIVA to LI going to public school at the age of 10, needless to say when all my new friends were going trick or treating and my mom wouldn't allow it, it was hard for me to deal with but did get over it. My mom sort of tried to make that day a fun day for me that I wouldn't feel bad that all my friends were out and I wasn't with them, and it was hard for her to explain too, bc a lot of the jewish kids were trick or treating and I wasn't, but she did try to explain that it was a non jewish holiday etc...
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
The actual "holiday" is Nov. 1st...All Soul's Day. That's the religious part.
I personally have never viewed Halloween as a religious event, and I am Cathlolic. It was just about dressing up and eating lots of candy. 
But to each his own..if you don't want your DC to dress up, then that's your right and it's no one's business why. But I also agree..it must be hard to watch the other kids dress up and have fun.
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
Posted by MrsRbk
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I do celebrate but I can tell you there is a little boy in Jordan's class that does not. I feel bad for him, when we have the fall party(at school) he has to either go home early , sit at a desk in the hall, or sit with the principal.  He is one of 2 children in the grade that does not celebrate. I know this does not make him happy(I have seen it with my own eyes). While I realize there are certain people that do not celebrate, it is a tough spot do be in when they are in a public school. I teach my daughters that it is a fun day to dress up and be with friends and there is NO real meaning. JMHO
IDK, I went to public school and never felt left out, or "bad" because I didn't celebrate non-jewish holidays. But I do understand alot of kids do feel bad. But I think to say that it's a tough spot to be in when you are in public school is not entirely fair/accurate to say.
I remember all my Jewish friends being miserable around Xmas in school.
Another friend had parents that were 7th day adventists and he was also very resentful of the things he wasn't allowed to participate in.
I think for many many kids it is a rough position to be placed in.
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
I'm not deeply religious but I never viewed Halloween as a "Christian" holiday..
On the other hand, my ex-SIL told me I was condemning my child's soul to hell by allowing her to go trick-or-treating. She's a born again (but I also think she made up her own rules concerning her religious/moral beliefs). Her aunt (on her wedding day) looked at me with disbelief when I told her I was getting married in 2000. Her exact quote "Why bother?? According to OUR beliefs, the world will end before then!" So much for that vision!!
If hell entails free sweets and fun, bring on the candy and costumes!!
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by MrsRbk
Posted by ChrisDee
I do celebrate but I can tell you there is a little boy in Jordan's class that does not. I feel bad for him, when we have the fall party(at school) he has to either go home early , sit at a desk in the hall, or sit with the principal. He is one of 2 children in the grade that does not celebrate. I know this does not make him happy(I have seen it with my own eyes). While I realize there are certain people that do not celebrate, it is a tough spot do be in when they are in a public school. I teach my daughters that it is a fun day to dress up and be with friends and there is NO real meaning. JMHO
IDK, I went to public school and never felt left out, or "bad" because I didn't celebrate non-jewish holidays. But I do understand alot of kids do feel bad. But I think to say that it's a tough spot to be in when you are in public school is not entirely fair/accurate to say.
I remember all my Jewish friends being miserable around Xmas in school.
Another friend had parents that were 7th day adventists and he was also very resentful of the things he wasn't allowed to participate in.
I think for many many kids it is a rough position to be placed in.
I grew up in CT, and was literally the ONLY jewish kid in my school. I guess it's how parents explain to their kids the hows and whys of different religions. All I'm saying is that it's not the case for every kid to feel bad/miserable and left out. My siblings and I never got upset or let it bother us that we were "different" It's just the way we were raised. I will raise my daughter and any other kids I'm blessed to have the same way I was.
I never understood why kids who didn't celebrate christmas or any other christian holidays were miserable/upset, or what have you. Maybe there is someone here that felt that way growing up can explain why. (I'm geniouly (sp) curious.
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
We do not celebrate Halloween at all. All the kids in our family knows that and they are fine with it. I never once felt left out as a child growing up. We are Seventh Day Adventist and there were no resentment about not celebrating halloween. I am not worried about daughter feeling left out at all.
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
Posted by MrsRbk
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by MrsRbk
Posted by ChrisDee
I do celebrate but I can tell you there is a little boy in Jordan's class that does not. I feel bad for him, when we have the fall party(at school) he has to either go home early , sit at a desk in the hall, or sit with the principal. He is one of 2 children in the grade that does not celebrate. I know this does not make him happy(I have seen it with my own eyes). While I realize there are certain people that do not celebrate, it is a tough spot do be in when they are in a public school. I teach my daughters that it is a fun day to dress up and be with friends and there is NO real meaning. JMHO
IDK, I went to public school and never felt left out, or "bad" because I didn't celebrate non-jewish holidays. But I do understand alot of kids do feel bad. But I think to say that it's a tough spot to be in when you are in public school is not entirely fair/accurate to say.
I remember all my Jewish friends being miserable around Xmas in school.
Another friend had parents that were 7th day adventists and he was also very resentful of the things he wasn't allowed to participate in.
I think for many many kids it is a rough position to be placed in.
I grew up in CT, and was literally the ONLY jewish kid in my school. I guess it's how parents explain to their kids the hows and whys of different religions. All I'm saying is that it's not the case for every kid to feel bad/miserable and left out. My siblings and I never got upset or let it bother us that we were "different" It's just the way we were raised. I will raise my daughter and any other kids I'm blessed to have the same way I was.
I never understood why kids who didn't celebrate christmas or any other christian holidays were miserable/upset, or what have you. Maybe there is someone here that felt that way growing up can explain why. (I'm geniouly (sp) curious.
ITA and we are Seventh Day Adventist!!!
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
Halloween is by no means a Christian holiday. i am born again (we don't know when the world will end by the way) and I will not be participating in Halloween activities. My church does have a fair that night they give away candy and have a ton of blow up and other cool kid games. ALL free.
i have a problem with the TRICK not the treat. Sure it's cute to dress up at 2yo as a bumble bee but when they get old it gets tricky sooooo as for me and my family we will not be dressing up and just doing something fun.
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by MrsRbk
Posted by ChrisDee
I do celebrate but I can tell you there is a little boy in Jordan's class that does not. I feel bad for him, when we have the fall party(at school) he has to either go home early , sit at a desk in the hall, or sit with the principal. He is one of 2 children in the grade that does not celebrate. I know this does not make him happy(I have seen it with my own eyes). While I realize there are certain people that do not celebrate, it is a tough spot do be in when they are in a public school. I teach my daughters that it is a fun day to dress up and be with friends and there is NO real meaning. JMHO
IDK, I went to public school and never felt left out, or "bad" because I didn't celebrate non-jewish holidays. But I do understand alot of kids do feel bad. But I think to say that it's a tough spot to be in when you are in public school is not entirely fair/accurate to say.
I remember all my Jewish friends being miserable around Xmas in school.
Another friend had parents that were 7th day adventists and he was also very resentful of the things he wasn't allowed to participate in.
I think for many many kids it is a rough position to be placed in.
I grew up in a town with a lot of jewish kids thats went trick or treating and again, It wasn't something that I took to right away, but never felt miserable or resentful in anyay...I've actually never met anyone that was resentful bc they didn't get to celebrate Christmas....
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
I just want to say that this has been a really informative thread. I never knew that people in the jewish religion did not celebrate Halloween. but that's probably because every jewish friend I grew up with did celebrate it. Go figure!
For the record, if you don't celebrate Halloween, it's no one's business. As a teacher, I can say it's not that uncommon for students to not celebrate it and I've only seen one student in all my years who really felt left out. The rest just knew that was what they believed and so be it.
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by MrsRbk
Posted by ChrisDee
I do celebrate but I can tell you there is a little boy in Jordan's class that does not. I feel bad for him, when we have the fall party(at school) he has to either go home early , sit at a desk in the hall, or sit with the principal. He is one of 2 children in the grade that does not celebrate. I know this does not make him happy(I have seen it with my own eyes). While I realize there are certain people that do not celebrate, it is a tough spot do be in when they are in a public school. I teach my daughters that it is a fun day to dress up and be with friends and there is NO real meaning. JMHO
IDK, I went to public school and never felt left out, or "bad" because I didn't celebrate non-jewish holidays. But I do understand alot of kids do feel bad. But I think to say that it's a tough spot to be in when you are in public school is not entirely fair/accurate to say.
I remember all my Jewish friends being miserable around Xmas in school.
Another friend had parents that were 7th day adventists and he was also very resentful of the things he wasn't allowed to participate in.
I think for many many kids it is a rough position to be placed in.
I was never miserable around Christmas nor were any of my Jewish friends. I could see it being tough for younger children especially if there really aren't any other Jewish kids in town. Where DH grew up, there was 1 Jewish family, but they had a Christmas tree so the kids didn't feel left out. 
I personally never viewed Halloween as a religious holiday, but maybe that's b/c we always dressed up and went TOTing as did all of my Jewish friends.
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
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The actual "holiday" is Nov. 1st...All Soul's Day. That's the religious part.
I personally have never viewed Halloween as a religious event, and I am Cathlolic. It was just about dressing up and eating lots of candy.
ditto. Never once have I thought of Halloween as religious and I'm Catholic as well. Plus, growing up, I've had tons of Jewish friends who do celebrate Halloween. I just don't see it as religious holiday. I see it as a fun day to dress up and have candy. I do feel sorry for kids who may feel left out.
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
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Posted by DomesticDeeva
The actual "holiday" is Nov. 1st...All Soul's Day. That's the religious part.
I personally have never viewed Halloween as a religious event, and I am Cathlolic. It was just about dressing up and eating lots of candy.
ditto. Never once have I thought of Halloween as religious and I'm Catholic as well. Plus, growing up, I've had tons of Jewish friends who do celebrate Halloween. I just don't see it as religious holiday. I see it as a fun day to dress up and have candy. I do feel sorry for kids who may feel left out.
FTR - I'm not saying it's a "relgious" holiday, but we view it as a non-jewish holiday and in my family we do not participate in these types of "holidays" Same goes for Valentines Day. DH and I don't celebrate and never will.
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
Posted by pickles16
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Posted by MrsRbk
Posted by ChrisDee
I do celebrate but I can tell you there is a little boy in Jordan's class that does not. I feel bad for him, when we have the fall party(at school) he has to either go home early , sit at a desk in the hall, or sit with the principal. He is one of 2 children in the grade that does not celebrate. I know this does not make him happy(I have seen it with my own eyes). While I realize there are certain people that do not celebrate, it is a tough spot do be in when they are in a public school. I teach my daughters that it is a fun day to dress up and be with friends and there is NO real meaning. JMHO
IDK, I went to public school and never felt left out, or "bad" because I didn't celebrate non-jewish holidays. But I do understand alot of kids do feel bad. But I think to say that it's a tough spot to be in when you are in public school is not entirely fair/accurate to say.
I remember all my Jewish friends being miserable around Xmas in school.
Another friend had parents that were 7th day adventists and he was also very resentful of the things he wasn't allowed to participate in.
I think for many many kids it is a rough position to be placed in.
I grew up in a town with a lot of jewish kids thats went trick or treating and again, It wasn't something that I took to right away, but never felt miserable or resentful in anyay...I've actually never met anyone that was resentful bc they didn't get to celebrate Christmas....
Two of the friends that were restenful are now parents - both celebrate Xmas so their kids don't have to feel the way they did.
To me that says a lot about how hurt they were as kids.
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by pickles16
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by MrsRbk
Posted by ChrisDee
I do celebrate but I can tell you there is a little boy in Jordan's class that does not. I feel bad for him, when we have the fall party(at school) he has to either go home early , sit at a desk in the hall, or sit with the principal. He is one of 2 children in the grade that does not celebrate. I know this does not make him happy(I have seen it with my own eyes). While I realize there are certain people that do not celebrate, it is a tough spot do be in when they are in a public school. I teach my daughters that it is a fun day to dress up and be with friends and there is NO real meaning. JMHO
IDK, I went to public school and never felt left out, or "bad" because I didn't celebrate non-jewish holidays. But I do understand alot of kids do feel bad. But I think to say that it's a tough spot to be in when you are in public school is not entirely fair/accurate to say.
I remember all my Jewish friends being miserable around Xmas in school.
Another friend had parents that were 7th day adventists and he was also very resentful of the things he wasn't allowed to participate in.
I think for many many kids it is a rough position to be placed in.
I grew up in a town with a lot of jewish kids thats went trick or treating and again, It wasn't something that I took to right away, but never felt miserable or resentful in anyay...I've actually never met anyone that was resentful bc they didn't get to celebrate Christmas....
Two of the friends that were restenful are now parents - both celebrate Xmas so their kids don't have to feel the way they did.
To me that says a lot about how hurt they were as kids.
Then I would have to say that's their parents fault that they were so hurt by NOT celebrating a holiday that was not their religion.
Honestly, I would be MORE hurt if people felt "bad" for me because I was a different religion and didn't celebrate the "mainstream" holidays. I'm proud to be Jewish. Always have been, and I hope my daughter and future children feel the same way.
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Re: If you don't "celebrate" halloween quick question
Posted by MrsRbk
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by pickles16
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by MrsRbk
Posted by ChrisDee
I do celebrate but I can tell you there is a little boy in Jordan's class that does not. I feel bad for him, when we have the fall party(at school) he has to either go home early , sit at a desk in the hall, or sit with the principal. He is one of 2 children in the grade that does not celebrate. I know this does not make him happy(I have seen it with my own eyes). While I realize there are certain people that do not celebrate, it is a tough spot do be in when they are in a public school. I teach my daughters that it is a fun day to dress up and be with friends and there is NO real meaning. JMHO
IDK, I went to public school and never felt left out, or "bad" because I didn't celebrate non-jewish holidays. But I do understand alot of kids do feel bad. But I think to say that it's a tough spot to be in when you are in public school is not entirely fair/accurate to say.
I remember all my Jewish friends being miserable around Xmas in school.
Another friend had parents that were 7th day adventists and he was also very resentful of the things he wasn't allowed to participate in.
I think for many many kids it is a rough position to be placed in.
I grew up in a town with a lot of jewish kids thats went trick or treating and again, It wasn't something that I took to right away, but never felt miserable or resentful in anyay...I've actually never met anyone that was resentful bc they didn't get to celebrate Christmas....
Two of the friends that were restenful are now parents - both celebrate Xmas so their kids don't have to feel the way they did.
To me that says a lot about how hurt they were as kids.
Then I would have to say that's their parents fault that they were so hurt by NOT celebrating a holiday that was not their religion.
Honestly, I would be MORE hurt if people felt "bad" for me because I was a different religion and didn't celebrate the "mainstream" holidays. I'm proud to be Jewish. Always have been, and I hope my daughter and future children feel the same way.
well said! so much for parents explaining differences to their own kids, obviously the parents didn't do their job that not everyone is a like...sorry but IMO I thinks thats a bit crazy of your friends, and being hurt about not celebrating christmas??? I am jewish and looooove the lights and decorations etc, hurt by the fact that I don't partake in getting the gifts under the tree is something that has never crossed my mind, and most of my other jewish friends as well...personally I find it odd that they were hurt, again JMO...
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