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Irish Pub Bans 'Danny Boy' in March

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Irish Pub Bans 'Danny Boy' in March

NEW YORK (March 6) - It's depressing, it's not usually sung in Ireland for St. Patrick's Day, and its lyrics were written by an Englishman who never set foot on Irish soil.

Those are only some of the reasons why a Manhattan pub owner is banning the song "Danny Boy" for the entire month of March.


"It's overplayed, it's been ranked among the 25 most depressing songs of all time and it's more appropriate for a funeral than for a St. Patrick's Day celebration," said Shaun Clancy, who owns Foley's Pub and Restaurant, across the street from the Empire State Building.

The 38-year-old Clancy, who started bartending when he was 12 at his father's pub in County Cavan, Ireland, promised a free Guinness to patrons who sing any other traditional Irish song at the pub's pre-St. Patrick's Day karaoke party on Tuesday.

The lyrics for "Danny Boy," published in 1913, were written by English lawyer Frederick Edward Weatherly, who never even visited Ireland, according to Malachy McCourt, author of the book "Danny Boy: The Legend of the Beloved Irish Ballad."

He said Weatherly's sister-in-law had sent him the music to an old Irish song called "The Derry Air," and the new version became a hit when opera singer Ernestine Schumann-Heink recorded it in 1915.

Some say the song is symbolic of the great Irish diaspora, with generations of Irish fleeing the famine and poor economic conditions starting around 1850. Others speculate it's sung by a mother grieving for her son or by a desolate lover. Lyrics include: "The summer's gone, and all the flowers are dying/ 'Tis you, 'tis you must go and I must bide."


'Danny Boy'
Oh Danny Boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling
From glen to glen, and down the mountainside.
The summer's gone, and all the roses falling.
'Tis you, 'tis you must go and I must bide.
But come ye back when summer's in the meadow
Or when the valley's hushed and white with snow,
For I'll be here in sunshine or in shadow.
Oh Danny Boy, oh Danny Boy, I love you so.

But if you come, and all the flowers are dying
And if I'm dead, as dead I might well be.
Ye'll come and find the place where I am lying
And kneel and say an Ave there for me.
And I shall hear, though soft you tread above me;
And o'er my grave shall warmer, sweeter be,
And if you bow and tell me that you love me,
Then I shall sleep in peace until you come to me

"Danny Boy" was recorded by Bing Crosby in the 1940s, served as the theme song of television's "Danny Thomas Show" from 1953 to 1964. It has been performed by singers ranging from Judy Garland and Elvis Presley to Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson.

At least one patron at Foley's was glad to hear the song was banned from the pub for the rest of the month.

The song is "all right, but I get fed up with hearing it - it's like the elections," Martin Gaffney, 73, said in a thick Irish brogue.

Gaffney said Wednesday he looked forward to crooning his own Irish favorites, such as "Molly Malone" - whose own theme is hardly a barrel of laughs.

A sort of unofficial anthem of Dublin also known as "Cockles and Mussels," the song tells the tale of a beautiful fishmonger who plies her trade on city streets and dies young of a fever.

Posted 3/6/08 12:29 PM
 
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Re: Irish Pub Bans 'Danny Boy' in March

wow - interesting. well, it is his pub and he has a right to his opinion.

some irish get veeeerrrryyy testy when it comes to the english Chat Icon

i prefer "when irish eyes are smiling"

and i'll have to listen to "The Derry Air" - i have never heard of it until i read the article you posted - derry is where my grandfather's fam is from - on the map it is londonderry lol but you learn REAL fast to only call it "derry" -- i almost got killed once for making that mistake. Chat Icon

Posted 3/6/08 12:34 PM
 

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I love "Molly Malone".
My Nana taught my sister and I that song when we were children.
It is really a rather depressing song.

Posted 3/6/08 12:41 PM
 

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Re: Irish Pub Bans 'Danny Boy' in March

Isn't St. Patrick's Day a very somber holiday in Ireland anyway?

Posted 3/6/08 12:44 PM
 

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Posted by rojerono

Isn't St. Patrick's Day a very somber holiday in Ireland anyway?



Not generally. It's more religious, but not necessarily somber.


St. Patrick's Day is the feast day for the Roman Catholic Saint Patrick...

Posted 3/6/08 12:48 PM
 

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Posted by nylisa
promised a free Guinness to patrons who sing any other traditional Irish song at the pub's pre-St. Patrick's Day karaoke party on Tuesday.




Damn my uber prego state.

Posted 3/6/08 12:51 PM
 

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Re: Irish Pub Bans 'Danny Boy' in March

Posted by McSullivan

I love "Molly Malone".
My Nana taught my sister and I that song when we were children.
It is really a rather depressing song.



I hate "Molly Malone". Chat Icon I think any woman who grew up in Dublin does.

I know Foley's very well - it's a regular haunt for our group at work. I also know Shaun - he is a good friend of one of my colleagues. He said this morning that Shaun didn't want a big deal made about the fact that "Danny Boy" was written by an Englishman, but the reporter thought it would be a good angle. I guess either way, it's publicity for his pub. We'll be there on 3/17 and I'm sure business will be better as a result of this articleChat Icon

Posted 3/6/08 12:56 PM
 

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Re: Irish Pub Bans 'Danny Boy' in March

I think that might be the only Irish/Scottish song that I haven't heard in a while.
DH is drum major for a pipe & drum band. This year so far I have heard Scotland the Brave about 10 already and the season has just begun!

Posted 3/6/08 1:47 PM
 

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Posted by McSullivan

I love "Molly Malone".
My Nana taught my sister and I that song when we were children.
It is really a rather depressing song.



I hate "Molly Malone". Chat Icon I think any woman who grew up in Dublin does.



I can see that.

My Nan grew up in Belfast.

Posted 3/6/08 2:51 PM
 

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I think that might be the only Irish/Scottish song that I haven't heard in a while.
DH is drum major for a pipe & drum band. This year so far I have heard Scotland the Brave about 10 already and the season has just begun!



My cousin has a babpipes and drums band up in Rockland County! He's a piper -- he played at my wedding. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 3/6/08 2:53 PM
 

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Posted by rojerono

Isn't St. Patrick's Day a very somber holiday in Ireland anyway?



Not generally. It's more religious, but not necessarily somber.


St. Patrick's Day is the feast day for the Roman Catholic Saint Patrick...



Heh. When we went to Ireland we wanted to go in March and our advisor told us that it wasn't the same kind of happy celebratory thing that it is over here and that we were better off going in April if we wanted to be carefree. So we did. And we were. But now that I think of it she never SAID it was somber.. just not 'fun'.

Posted 3/6/08 3:07 PM
 

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Re: Irish Pub Bans 'Danny Boy' in March

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Posted by rojerono

Isn't St. Patrick's Day a very somber holiday in Ireland anyway?



Not generally. It's more religious, but not necessarily somber.


St. Patrick's Day is the feast day for the Roman Catholic Saint Patrick...



Heh. When we went to Ireland we wanted to go in March and our advisor told us that it wasn't the same kind of happy celebratory thing that it is over here and that we were better off going in April if we wanted to be carefree. So we did. And we were. But now that I think of it she never SAID it was somber.. just not 'fun'.



Oh it definitely is still FUN! Although a religious holiday, that does not stop the Irish! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 3/6/08 3:13 PM
 
 

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