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maybesoon
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Ivy league college question/discussion
If a student is accepted into a school like Yale, MIT princeton etc is It easier for the younger sibling to be accepted as well?
My dh had this come up bc parents wanted The kids in he same school (kids were 1 year apart) One was much brighter then the others
My inlaws felt that all things should be equal, so the brightest child (was accepted into ivy) was not "allowed" because of the other 2 siblings .
*Part of the reasoning was they could easily afford to send one DC, but maybe not the others. Again all things should be equal.
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
I'm not sure if it really gives an advantage or not but I know on just about all the college apps now they ask if you have any family that are current or alumni of the college.
So maybe they do think that into consideration a bit?
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| Posted 4/4/12 9:55 AM |
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mrswask
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
Posted by maybesoon
If a student is accepted into a school like Yale, MIT princeton etc is It easier for the younger sibling to be accepted as well?
My dh had this come up bc parents wanted The kids in he same school (kids were 1 year apart) One was much brighter then the other
Tiny bit. Not as much as people like to think.
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
Honestly, I think they check to see if the family member alumni donates a lot of money to the school...and if so, it'll be easier for the student to get accepted.
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mrsej
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
Posted by Katareen
Honestly, I think they check to see if the family member alumni donates a lot of money to the school...and if so, it'll be easier for the student to get accepted.
I agree - unless the parents are donating a ton of money and I mean alot, the fact that a brother or sister is going to the school won't make a difference.
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
Posted by mrswask
Tiny bit. Not as much as people like to think.
I agree.
If you're talking alumni parents, I think it changes. If you're talking donors/active fundraisers to the college, even more so.
Here's a good article on it:
http://chronicle.com/article/10-Myths-About-Legacy/124561/
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mrswask
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
Posted by mrsej
Posted by Katareen
Honestly, I think they check to see if the family member alumni donates a lot of money to the school...and if so, it'll be easier for the student to get accepted.
I agree - unless the parents are donating a ton of money and I mean alot, the fact that a brother or sister is going to the school won't make a difference.
And if the student is truly not qualified, many times that's STILL not going to help.
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mrswask
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
Posted by mrsej
Posted by Katareen
Honestly, I think they check to see if the family member alumni donates a lot of money to the school...and if so, it'll be easier for the student to get accepted.
I agree - unless the parents are donating a ton of money and I mean alot, the fact that a brother or sister is going to the school won't make a difference.
And if the student is truly not qualified, many times that's STILL not going to help.
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JenniferEver
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
Posted by nrthshgrl
Posted by mrswask
Tiny bit. Not as much as people like to think.
I agree.
If you're talking alumni parents, I think it changes. If you're talking donors/active fundraisers to the college, even more so.
Here's a good article on it:
http://chronicle.com/article/10-Myths-About-Legacy/124561/
I help kids get into college for a living. It's really a tiny bit for a sibling. It noly works if the 2nd child is very qualified for the school as well, they may get in over another equally qualified candidate. A sibling is not going to help an underqualified candidate get in.
legacy parents or grandparents (especially donors) will boost a child's chances, but a kid with a B average an 1700 on the SAT is still not getting into Harvard.
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
Posted by maybesoon
If a student is accepted into a school like Yale, MIT princeton etc is It easier for the younger sibling to be accepted as well?
My dh had this come up bc parents wanted The kids in he same school (kids were 1 year apart) One was much brighter then the others
My inlaws felt that all things should be equal, so the brightest child (was accepted into ivy) was not "allowed" because of the other 2 siblings .
Wait, so they didn't let the brightest kid (which I assume is your DH) go to an Ivy League school because his younger siblings wouldn't get in? That is absolutely beyond insane and selfish of the parents.
I would think one sibling attending has very little to do with the other getting in unless you are donating a lot of money to the school as others said.
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| Posted 4/4/12 11:51 AM |
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eroxgirl
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
I don't know anything either way, but I think it's INSANE to not allow one kid to go to an ivy league school because his siblings may not have the same intellectual capacity..
If you can't afford it, I understand. Anything else is just beyond my comprehension.
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sunnyflies
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
The post doesn't make sense to me. Was it a hypothetical conversation?
If the brightest child was the oldest and got in, the parents would have had to have made the decision then and there to let it enroll, not some years later when the others applied and were presumably not accepted.
The younger ones would certainly get a longer look if a sibling was already in a school, though not necessarily a boost. If the younger ones didn't meet the college's criteria or particular needs to round out a class in the year they applied, then they just wouldn't be accepted. It's pretty straightforward.
I know of a Yale alumni who gave fairly generously, ten - fifteen grand a year consistently for years and who was in a position to give millions, who's very bright son did not get accepted. The alum was so p*** he called the college about it and no longer gives.
One thing I learned when visiting colleges with my kids is that many of the top colleges - Ivy league and others - offer FULL scholarships (100%) to kids in families making less than $60,000 a year - if the kids qualify and the colleges want to admit them. These colleges are doing their best to level the playing field and make it possible for the best and brightest to get the high level educations.
I can tell you that my son knows a number of extraordinary, very impressive kids who are at his school on scholarships.
I am not sure all guidance counselors are telling gifted kids this, though, so they may not be aware that they could go to an Ivy League school for free if they applied and were accepted.
Harvard told us in an information session that they extended full scholarships to those making up to $80,000 and had a sliding tuition scale for families making up to, I think it was, $110,000. I was astonished.
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pnbplus1
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
I don't think having a sibling who attended matters much, especially if they haven't even graduated yet.
Legacy refers more to having a parent/s who has attended and graduated from the school and this does/can make a difference.
I secretly want my DS (currently only age 2.5 ) to attend the school I graduate dfrom. I remember knowing people who were legacy and I considered it special.
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nov04libride
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
no, sibling legacy means very little, and even parent/grandparent doesn't mean a great deal.
but i do hope DS goes to my alma mater! 
i didn't really understand the question--my older brother is smarter and went to a more comptitive ivy, but who knew where i'd get in when he was accepted, three years prior. to tell him no, he couldn't go to the most competitive is ridiculous, imo.
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JessInCA
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Re: Ivy league college question/discussion
I think, all other things being completely equal, they would take someone who has family ties to the school ahead of someone who didn't - otherwise why would they even bother asking about alumni on the applications?
But I sure don't think they would accept students who wouldn't otherwise get into the school at all, just because of their sibling. I mean, it's the ivy league. They wouldn't stay so academically competitive if they started relaxing their standards for people whose family members went there.
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