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Naturalmama
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Just watched a very interesting video
Did anyone see the video with the scientist who use to work for Fauci? She was thrown in jail for trying to expose what he did during the AIDS pandemic in the 80's. Saying that no cures/vaccines are allowed unless they are patented and there can be a profit.
And, not just those two doctors in California, but other doctors saying that they are being told to put people on ventilators who should not be put on them, placing covid on death certificates when covid infection was never confirmed, even when families fight it being put on the death certificate, because they don't believe that's what it was. At the end of the video, they show Fauci, in January 2017, telling America that he guarantees there will be a pandemic in a few years. It's half an hour long, but very interesting, and REALLY made me think.
I am shocked so many people just blindly trust out government and believe they are all about our best interest. I haven't believed that in years.
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
nothing shocks me anymore.
Nothing.
This country is not as "free" as we are lead to believe.
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ChilisWife
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
We saw it yesterday. YouTube keeps taking it down but it keeps getting put back up.
It was horrifying. I do question some things in the video but I believe a lot of it. It makes sense. Always follow the money.
The most disturbing things that I am still thinking about:
1. There is an effective drug that helps autism but they squashed it.
2. Fauci sat on the AIDS virus for years and allowed millions to die so he could get a patent.
3. Hydrochloroquine IS somewhat effective for Covid but they won't allow it because it's cheap and the powers that be can't make money off getting a patent for it.
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Yes, doesn't surprise me at all.
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Sash
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Not surprised... and no one cared about the AIDS epidemic because at the height it was killing mostly junkies, mostly minorities and gays. I was discussing this with DH, there is a vaccine for HPV but not HIV?? Because they make more money this way.
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klingklang77
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by Sash
Not surprised... and no one cared about the AIDS epidemic because at the height it was killing mostly junkies, mostly minorities and gays. I was discussing this with DH, there is a vaccine for HPV but not HIV?? Because they make more money this way.
I read that they cannot get a vaccine for HIV because the strains keep changing. Apparently the new strain (M, I think?) is quite deadly.
Sorry, but I’m going to trust the scientists on this one. They can do all the testing on genomes, which I know nothing about, and I’ll trust them. That’s all I have to keep me sane because it is logical. Sure, there may be some political and money making tactics in place, but as a commoner, I’ll just keep on keeping on. I think they are more knowledgeable than we are.
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Was it Dr Judy Mikovits? What she says, has been said many times by different ppl. Unfortunately these kind of things rarely see the light of the day and if it does, it gets dismissed immediately as conspiracy theories. It’s a shame this happens! I’ve been wanting to get my hands on her book but can’t find it anywhere!
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klingklang77
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Was it Dr Judy Mikovits? What she says, has been said many times by different ppl. Unfortunately these kind of things rarely see the light of the day and if it does, it gets dismissed immediately as conspiracy theories. It’s a shame this happens! I’ve been wanting to get my hands on her book but can’t find it anywhere!
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Sorry, but I did a quick read on her and it seems her research was not peer reviewed for good reason. She just does not have enough evidence. Sorry, and I know this is harsh, but I would give an automatic fail if one of my students tried to use this as “evidence.”
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SecretlyTTC14
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by Naturalmama
I am shocked so many people just blindly trust out government and believe they are all about our best interest. I haven't believed that in years.
I agree. They say ignorance is bliss, so I understand why people don't want to know things, but how can you just ignore things that are right in front of your face. People love to dismiss things as being a conspiracy theory, but the reality is that the government has always done whatever it wants. Do a google search for MKUltra, the secret CIA projects from the 70's that used Americans and Canadians as test subjects unwittingly. That wasn't that long ago. When lawsuits reached the Supreme Court, the courts protected the government over people's rights.
Even in our everyday life, our government protects companies over peoples safety. When a new product comes to the market, companies should have to prove it's safe, not the other way around. We have to prove something is dangerous before the company is forced to pull it from shelves. They favor profits over peoples lives.
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Sash
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Sash
Not surprised... and no one cared about the AIDS epidemic because at the height it was killing mostly junkies, mostly minorities and gays. I was discussing this with DH, there is a vaccine for HPV but not HIV?? Because they make more money this way.
I read that they cannot get a vaccine for HIV because the strains keep changing. Apparently the new strain (M, I think?) is quite deadly.
Sorry, but I’m going to trust the scientists on this one. They can do all the testing on genomes, which I know nothing about, and I’ll trust them. That’s all I have to keep me sane because it is logical. Sure, there may be some political and money making tactics in place, but as a commoner, I’ll just keep on keeping on. I think they are more knowledgeable than we are.
Why am I not surprised. I witnessed it in the 80s and 90s. It destroyed families and communities. Your only chance was expensive drugs that we couldn’t afford. I saw it first hand. So yes while I believe in science, there is always money and political motive behind it. They twist what get released to us sometimes. But they didn’t care about this virus because it was picking off the junkies and minorities.
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LuckyStar
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Just watched a very interesting video
None of this is true. I understand the frustration of wanting to open and get the economy up and running and schools open. I want those things, too.
But I’m not going to ignore research scientists (who aren’t being paid off by anyone, btw) because it fits into what I want.
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klingklang77
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by Sash
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Posted by Sash
Not surprised... and no one cared about the AIDS epidemic because at the height it was killing mostly junkies, mostly minorities and gays. I was discussing this with DH, there is a vaccine for HPV but not HIV?? Because they make more money this way.
I read that they cannot get a vaccine for HIV because the strains keep changing. Apparently the new strain (M, I think?) is quite deadly.
Sorry, but I’m going to trust the scientists on this one. They can do all the testing on genomes, which I know nothing about, and I’ll trust them. That’s all I have to keep me sane because it is logical. Sure, there may be some political and money making tactics in place, but as a commoner, I’ll just keep on keeping on. I think they are more knowledgeable than we are.
Why am I not surprised. I witnessed it in the 80s and 90s. It destroyed families and communities. Your only chance was expensive drugs that we couldn’t afford. I saw it first hand. So yes while I believe in science, there is always money and political motive behind it. They twist what get released to us sometimes. But they didn’t care about this virus because it was picking off the junkies and minorities.
Well, that brings about the question of how bad the US healthcare system is. There are far deeper roots into this problem. I don’t know, but watching this as an outsider has me gobsmacked. The US is supposed to be the richest power in the world, but, yet, so many are dying. It makes no sense. At. All.
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klingklang77
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by LuckyStar
None of this is true. I understand the frustration of wanting to open and get the economy up and running and schools open. I want those things, too.
But I’m not going to ignore research scientists (who aren’t being paid off by anyone, btw) because it fits into what I want.
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Sash
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Sash
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Sash
Not surprised... and no one cared about the AIDS epidemic because at the height it was killing mostly junkies, mostly minorities and gays. I was discussing this with DH, there is a vaccine for HPV but not HIV?? Because they make more money this way.
I read that they cannot get a vaccine for HIV because the strains keep changing. Apparently the new strain (M, I think?) is quite deadly.
Sorry, but I’m going to trust the scientists on this one. They can do all the testing on genomes, which I know nothing about, and I’ll trust them. That’s all I have to keep me sane because it is logical. Sure, there may be some political and money making tactics in place, but as a commoner, I’ll just keep on keeping on. I think they are more knowledgeable than we are.
Why am I not surprised. I witnessed it in the 80s and 90s. It destroyed families and communities. Your only chance was expensive drugs that we couldn’t afford. I saw it first hand. So yes while I believe in science, there is always money and political motive behind it. They twist what get released to us sometimes. But they didn’t care about this virus because it was picking off the junkies and minorities.
Well, that brings about the question of how bad the US healthcare system is. There are far deeper roots into this problem. I don’t know, but watching this as an outsider has me gobsmacked. The US is supposed to be the richest power in the world, but, yet, so many are dying. It makes no sense. At. All.
I agree with you on that. It’s scary.
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LuckyStar
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by Sash
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Posted by Sash
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Sash
Not surprised... and no one cared about the AIDS epidemic because at the height it was killing mostly junkies, mostly minorities and gays. I was discussing this with DH, there is a vaccine for HPV but not HIV?? Because they make more money this way.
I read that they cannot get a vaccine for HIV because the strains keep changing. Apparently the new strain (M, I think?) is quite deadly.
Sorry, but I’m going to trust the scientists on this one. They can do all the testing on genomes, which I know nothing about, and I’ll trust them. That’s all I have to keep me sane because it is logical. Sure, there may be some political and money making tactics in place, but as a commoner, I’ll just keep on keeping on. I think they are more knowledgeable than we are.
Why am I not surprised. I witnessed it in the 80s and 90s. It destroyed families and communities. Your only chance was expensive drugs that we couldn’t afford. I saw it first hand. So yes while I believe in science, there is always money and political motive behind it. They twist what get released to us sometimes. But they didn’t care about this virus because it was picking off the junkies and minorities.
Well, that brings about the question of how bad the US healthcare system is. There are far deeper roots into this problem. I don’t know, but watching this as an outsider has me gobsmacked. The US is supposed to be the richest power in the world, but, yet, so many are dying. It makes no sense. At. All.
I agree with you on that. It’s scary.
Yes. That is a very legitimate issue. I don’t doubt that the fact that AIDS (or GRID, as it was called back then) was hitting marginalized communities made it less of a priority. People thought the victims “did it to themselves.” Horrible and obviously ignorant.
Blaming scientists is misplaced. Trust me, the ones on the ground are not pulling in big bucks or being paid off. They’d be driving nicer cars
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alli3131
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Just watched a very interesting video
People are watching that video and taking her word as truth. Do your research. She’s about as nuts as the tiger lady!!!
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Was it Dr Judy Mikovits? What she says, has been said many times by different ppl. Unfortunately these kind of things rarely see the light of the day and if it does, it gets dismissed immediately as conspiracy theories. It’s a shame this happens! I’ve been wanting to get my hands on her book but can’t find it anywhere!
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Sorry, but I did a quick read on her and it seems her research was not peer reviewed for good reason. She just does not have enough evidence. Sorry, and I know this is harsh, but I would give an automatic fail if one of my students tried to use this as “evidence.”
Then I guess I’d fail ur course lololol!!!! I like to read things from several sources and not just peer reviewed journals, or what agencies like the fda is presenting me with. And to be honest, how much info that either challenges what’s already out there or asks for further research based on evidence found really makes it to the public without any road blocks? Def not much, especially with all the censorship happening everywhere u turn. I’m not saying u should believe everything under the sun but def expand ur perspective, look at a bigger picture, look into different sources, and always, always ask questions!
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MsSissy
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
What's here name and where is the video?
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by SecretlyTTC14
Posted by Naturalmama
I am shocked so many people just blindly trust out government and believe they are all about our best interest. I haven't believed that in years.
I agree. They say ignorance is bliss, so I understand why people don't want to know things, but how can you just ignore things that are right in front of your face. People love to dismiss things as being a conspiracy theory, but the reality is that the government has always done whatever it wants. Do a google search for MKUltra, the secret CIA projects from the 70's that used Americans and Canadians as test subjects unwittingly. That wasn't that long ago. When lawsuits reached the Supreme Court, the courts protected the government over people's rights.
Even in our everyday life, our government protects companies over peoples safety. When a new product comes to the market, companies should have to prove it's safe, not the other way around. We have to prove something is dangerous before the company is forced to pull it from shelves. They favor profits over peoples lives.
When my niece and her husband moved here from Spain, they could not believe how many food ingredients that were banned in Europe were approved in the US. From what’s available in the supermarkets to the food some international restaurants sell.
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klingklang77
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Was it Dr Judy Mikovits? What she says, has been said many times by different ppl. Unfortunately these kind of things rarely see the light of the day and if it does, it gets dismissed immediately as conspiracy theories. It’s a shame this happens! I’ve been wanting to get my hands on her book but can’t find it anywhere!
Clip
Sorry, but I did a quick read on her and it seems her research was not peer reviewed for good reason. She just does not have enough evidence. Sorry, and I know this is harsh, but I would give an automatic fail if one of my students tried to use this as “evidence.”
Then I guess I’d fail ur course lololol!!!! I like to read things from several sources and not just peer reviewed journals, or what agencies like the fda is presenting me with. And to be honest, how much info that either challenges what’s already out there or asks for further research based on evidence found really makes it to the public without any road blocks? Def not much, especially with all the censorship happening everywhere u turn. I’m not saying u should believe everything under the sun but def expand ur perspective, look at a bigger picture, look into different sources, and always, always ask questions!
Yeah, that’s all fine and great, but with your text speak and lack of info, I’d probably report you to my department.
You can question all you want, but there are no facts to support what you are saying. I don’t need to expand my perspective (or do you mean horizon?), and I don’t need to look at the bigger picture. Wake up. Your videos are getting tired. No support or evidence makes that clear. I don’t need to ask questions; I’m capable of critical thinking, which you are not.
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Was it Dr Judy Mikovits? What she says, has been said many times by different ppl. Unfortunately these kind of things rarely see the light of the day and if it does, it gets dismissed immediately as conspiracy theories. It’s a shame this happens! I’ve been wanting to get my hands on her book but can’t find it anywhere!
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Sorry, but I did a quick read on her and it seems her research was not peer reviewed for good reason. She just does not have enough evidence. Sorry, and I know this is harsh, but I would give an automatic fail if one of my students tried to use this as “evidence.”
Then I guess I’d fail ur course lololol!!!! I like to read things from several sources and not just peer reviewed journals, or what agencies like the fda is presenting me with. And to be honest, how much info that either challenges what’s already out there or asks for further research based on evidence found really makes it to the public without any road blocks? Def not much, especially with all the censorship happening everywhere u turn. I’m not saying u should believe everything under the sun but def expand ur perspective, look at a bigger picture, look into different sources, and always, always ask questions!
Yeah, that’s all fine and great, but with your text speak and lack of info, I’d probably report you to my department.
You can question all you want, but there are no facts to support what you are saying. I don’t need to expand my perspective (or do you mean horizon?), and I don’t need to look at the bigger picture. Wake up. Your videos are getting tired. No support or evidence makes that clear. I don’t need to ask questions; I’m capable of critical thinking, which you are not.
Wtf?!?!? Who do u think u’re talking to?? Are u confusing me with someone else?!? I’m not trying to convince u or anyone about anything. “Wake up”?!? “ur videos are getting tired”?!? Seriously, wtf are u talking about?? U have no say on what I post just like I have no say on what u want to post. “Support, evidence” I’m not trying to proof anything and if that was the case, I’d have done that already. In all seriousness, if it’s still day time in Germany, it’s time for u to get out and get some fresh air and sunlight. Oh and btw, when I was talking about asking questions, I was talking in general not u specifically.
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Christine2
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
I saw it too. It seems like there may be truth to dismissing cheaper drugs to treat the problem in lieu of a pricey vaccine to "eradicate" the virus, (which in and of itself that may not even be effective against an RNA virus). So, to profit, scare the world and mandate a global vaccine. Terrifying.
The liberal labeling of deaths from Covid to make more money is shameful, the overuse of ventilators which ended up making people sicker is sickening and the fact that the flu vaccine may have made people more susceptible is truly frightening.
It is a sad, sad world we live in.
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by Christine2
I saw it too. It seems like there may be truth to dismissing cheaper drugs to treat the problem in lieu of a pricey vaccine to "eradicate" the virus, (which in and of itself that may not even be effective against an RNA virus). So, to profit, scare the world and mandate a global vaccine. Terrifying.
The liberal labeling of deaths from Covid to make more money is shameful, the overuse of ventilators which ended up making people sicker is sickening and the fact that the flu vaccine may have made people more susceptible is truly frightening.
It is a sad, sad world we live in.
Frightening...indeed! I read the article that talks about the flu vaccine and other respiratory viruses (like corona) and it blew my mind especially because of how much push there was to make it mandatory and even now when they talk about the second wave and say...”u should still get it and have some protection.” Really?!? How stupid do they think we are?!?  . I guarantee u they’ll push for it now more than ever.
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LuckyStar
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Just watched a very interesting video
There are many drugs, both cheap (including hydroxychloroquine) and potentially expensive currently in trials.
A simple search on clinicaltrials.gov will give you all the COVID trials currently being conducted. Researchers are required by law to submit their trials and the information is uploaded to the database by the researcher themselves, NOT the government.
The site is a bit cumbersome, but I urge anyone interested in the research pipeline to have a look.
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klingklang77
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Re: Just watched a very interesting video
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Was it Dr Judy Mikovits? What she says, has been said many times by different ppl. Unfortunately these kind of things rarely see the light of the day and if it does, it gets dismissed immediately as conspiracy theories. It’s a shame this happens! I’ve been wanting to get my hands on her book but can’t find it anywhere!
Clip
Sorry, but I did a quick read on her and it seems her research was not peer reviewed for good reason. She just does not have enough evidence. Sorry, and I know this is harsh, but I would give an automatic fail if one of my students tried to use this as “evidence.”
Then I guess I’d fail ur course lololol!!!! I like to read things from several sources and not just peer reviewed journals, or what agencies like the fda is presenting me with. And to be honest, how much info that either challenges what’s already out there or asks for further research based on evidence found really makes it to the public without any road blocks? Def not much, especially with all the censorship happening everywhere u turn. I’m not saying u should believe everything under the sun but def expand ur perspective, look at a bigger picture, look into different sources, and always, always ask questions!
Yeah, that’s all fine and great, but with your text speak and lack of info, I’d probably report you to my department.
You can question all you want, but there are no facts to support what you are saying. I don’t need to expand my perspective (or do you mean horizon?), and I don’t need to look at the bigger picture. Wake up. Your videos are getting tired. No support or evidence makes that clear. I don’t need to ask questions; I’m capable of critical thinking, which you are not.
Wtf?!?!? Who do u think u’re talking to?? Are u confusing me with someone else?!? I’m not trying to convince u or anyone about anything. “Wake up”?!? “ur videos are getting tired”?!? Seriously, wtf are u talking about?? U have no say on what I post just like I have no say on what u want to post. “Support, evidence” I’m not trying to proof anything and if that was the case, I’d have done that already. In all seriousness, if it’s still day time in Germany, it’s time for u to get out and get some fresh air and sunlight. Oh and btw, when I was talking about asking questions, I was talking in general not u specifically.
Sorry, but I take offense to a few things that you have posted in the last few days. You often say do your research and ask questions. In the past week alone, you have said it a few times. So, yeah, when you come on here and respond to ME that I need to look at different sources and ask questions, of course I’m going to get offended. And then you tell me to get out and get sunlight? I’ll quote you—wtf, who do you think you’re talking to???
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