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waterspout4
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My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
I see many of you asking questions about Saf-T-Swim and I just wrote a lengthy FM about it, so I thought I'd copy and paste it here. This way I could try to explain Saf-T-Swim. I taught swimming for 15 years and finished my career at Saf-T-Swim. I wish I had taught there a lot earlier as their program is WAY above and beyond any other program that I have dealt with. Please read it through as I explain private lessons and group lessons. Feel free to FM me with questions. I don't know current prices or schedules though.
Here you go:
Saf-T-Swim is based on the concept of safety. In reality, who cares if your child can show you how to do a perfect swim stroke with their arms, if they can't save themselves. Their program is based on letting children know that the wall is their best friend.
If a child falls in the water, God forbid, they will typically come up for air and see the wall in front of them, ACROSS THE POOL. Most kids drown trying to get to that wall, because they don't realize if they just turn around that the wall is right there. Now that I am a mother, it completely kills me. As morbid as it sounds, it's what we have to teach our children.
Their program is based on repitition and getting back to the wall. The worst thing a parent does while in the pool with their child is letting them jump to them and NOT bringing them right back to the wall. (We are all guilty of doing the 'jump to me' thing.) But if our children fall into the water with us not around, they won't know where to go. They will be looking for us. They must turn around and get back to the wall. Again, repitition is key.
I have seen a one year old fall into a pool and gotten back to the wall. Granted, they really don't have full coordination to fully grab the wall and save themselves at that age, but that is HUGE at a year. I have also seen a few 18 month olds that fall in and get back to the wall and save themselves. It is completely simple, yet amazing to see. Once they can save themselves, then they are taught more proper swimming techniques.
As for the lessons, if you have the money for private lessons, then do it! I do have to tell you that the lessons are taught without you in the pool area. You watch through one way glass. That is the hardest thing to do. Many times, your child will be screaming for you (Just because of the separation anxiety) but you are told not to come back into the pool area. I was thrown up on (kids figure mommy will come get them if they throw up), punched, kicked, etc. Again, this is tough to handle as a parent. But the rewards are well worth it. Separation anxiety will happen at some point. It just stinks because this time you have to watch them. (Instead of just leaving them at Daycare, for instance, and not seeing them screaming for you.) But as you watch through the glass, absorb everything the teacher is teaching. Then use those techniques yourself, in your own pool or in the bathtub.
If you want to check out the program, head to your nearest Saf-T-Swim and ask for a tour. Talk to other parents as they sit in the viewing room.
If you want to start using the techniques and learn as much as you can, without the private lesson cost, I suggest the mommy and me classes. It's a group class where the instructors teach you the same techniques they use in private lessons. You get in the pool with the baby. Learn all you can in that class and repeat it over and over. Repitition is key! When I taught there, they had two different levels of the mommy and me class.
I believe their teaching philosphy is so important! I hope this helps!
Please feel free to post your experiences there! (Whether positive or negative) But if you had a negative experience with an instructor named Kelly, rethink it!
Message edited 6/4/2008 5:25:23 PM.
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clwp
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Thank you so much for posting this... I have had their ad on my fridge since I was about 10 weeks pregnant with DD. I want her to learn to be safe in the water for 2 major reasons... 1 - my parent's have a 20x40 inground pool at their house and 2- I to this day have issues with water (cannot hold my breath under water without holding my nose, never learned) and it's a trait I do NOT want to pass on.
Few questions though - they advertise ages 2 months and up - is it best to start them quite that early or can you wait a few months... I was thinking of starting her up next spring - she'll be more like 9 or 10 months by then, but I didn't want to start her in the winter for fear she may get sick being in the water in the winter - not sure if that really makes sense, but I was always told that you can get a chill and catch a cold - probably an old wives tale... what are your thoughts? Also, can this eventually be applied to the swimming skills needed in lakes and the ocean as the child gets older? DH likes to go up to a lake in Maine every summer which also motivates me to want my kids to learn how to swim.
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waterspout4
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Posted by clwp
Thank you so much for posting this... I have had their ad on my fridge since I was about 10 weeks pregnant with DD. I want her to learn to be safe in the water for 2 major reasons... 1 - my parent's have a 20x40 inground pool at their house and 2- I to this day have issues with water (cannot hold my breath under water without holding my nose, never learned) and it's a trait I do NOT want to pass on.
Few questions though - they advertise ages 2 months and up - is it best to start them quite that early or can you wait a few months... I was thinking of starting her up next spring - she'll be more like 9 or 10 months by then, but I didn't want to start her in the winter for fear she may get sick being in the water in the winter - not sure if that really makes sense, but I was always told that you can get a chill and catch a cold - probably an old wives tale... what are your thoughts? Also, can this eventually be applied to the swimming skills needed in lakes and the ocean as the child gets older? DH likes to go up to a lake in Maine every summer which also motivates me to want my kids to learn how to swim.
You don't have to start at 2 months, it's your choice. It's just suggested to NOT start before that. As for whether it's better to start them early, you'd have to ask moms that have actually used the program. That part I can't answer.
And what they learn can ABSOLUTELY be used in lakes and oceans.
They also teach adults! So, if you're looking to learn breathing techniques......
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
So, in the bathtub, teach him to get to the wall and not as much to me?
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
OK, so how does it work if you have twins?
I guess if I'm not involved it's not an issue because it's one baby to one instructor?
I thought about enrolling them but wondered, if I had to be in the pool with them, how would it work if I have two? Same reasoning why I never did Gymboree early on.
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dooodles
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Did you ever receive a tip as an instructor? DH and I were wondering about that last night.
When I called for the private lessons, I made sure that DD will learn how to flip from the face down position into the face up position. Do they learn to swim to the wall later on? She is 10 months and at the end of her sessions, she will be tested with her clothes on to make sure this is something she can accomplish.
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ChilisWife
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Thanks for that great post.
Are mommy and me classes something totally different than Saf-t-swim, or is it part of saf-t-swim but just different than private lessons?
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Posted 6/4/08 8:07 PM |
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
I did Mommy and Me and now we are in Mommy and Me Down Under. It may have been our instructor but in Mommy in Me we didn't really do much with getting to the wall. She did teach us how to have them get out of the pool. The instructor for down under has them hang on the wall for a bit which I think is more helpful.
In my experience it is good the class is good to get them used to the water and have something to do. Because DS is so young 8 months he is not going to really learn anything, except how to splash other kids.
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pinkandblue
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Posted by waterspout4
I have seen a one year old fall into a pool and gotten back to the wall. Granted, they really don't have full coordination to fully grab the wall and save themselves at that age, but that is HUGE at a year.
GREAT POST...I took dd to swimming lessons at a place her in charlotte and they did teach them this (she began lessons at 9 months)...
They would place a toy outside of the pool, you would bring them to the wall and with your leg hold them steady while they reached for the toy. They were taught to pull themselves out of the pool, first their elbows, then their belly and finally their knees until they were out of the pool
I was SHOCKED that these young babies could be taught that
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Thanks Kelly -- I passed your FM on to a few other mommies. It was so helpful and informative!!
Although I have to admit I STILL haven't signed her up yet...
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
thank you for the information
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
We have Josh Jr enrolled in SafeTSwim. What we really like is that yes, he does cry for a while because he's with a stranger but as a reward we go in for a half an hour with him. He's been going for nine weeks and he gets better everytime. Its amazing to see these babies even through their tears repeat week after week what they are being taught.
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Kelly9904
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Posted by waterspout4
Here you go:
Saf-T-Swim is based on the concept of safety. In reality, who cares if your child can show you how to do a perfect swim stroke with their arms, if they can't save themselves. Their program is based on letting children know that the wall is their best friend.
I was an instructor for over 6 years and I totally agree!! This was a great post!
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH
OK, so how does it work if you have twins?
I guess if I'm not involved it's not an issue because it's one baby to one instructor?
I thought about enrolling them but wondered, if I had to be in the pool with them, how would it work if I have two? Same reasoning why I never did Gymboree early on.
Gymboree is great with twins ...We have gone for a while and there have been a few sets of twins there..since noah was like 4-5 months old. The instructor or helper assists or the mom does with both. Totally 100% doable...
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waterspout4
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
So, in the bathtub, teach him to get to the wall and not as much to me?
Um, well. Don't take it so literally. Not everything can be taught exactly in the bathtub. One of the main things you can do in the bathtub is when water gets in his face, you need to blow a quick raspberry. If you do it consistantly, he will start to blow water out of his mouth.
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
I love SafTSwim, but more importantly, DD LOVES her swim class. I did start her on the private instructor. Since she was less than 6 months old, they had something where she could have 5 classes for $50.
Anyway, we then did Mommy & Me, but, she was constantly sick from daycare that we had to stay out after the 3rd session. (They give make-up classes)
I personally started early b/c I didn't want her to have any fear or the anxiety. We actually didn't have to go into the room and watch through the glass, they let us stand near the wall and watch her.
Even though she's only had a few of the Mommy & Me, she can jump off the side, I bring her back to the wall. She can lie backwards and put her head under and come up. DD will be 1 on June 28
Hope that helps anyone thinking about it.
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waterspout4
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH
OK, so how does it work if you have twins?
I guess if I'm not involved it's not an issue because it's one baby to one instructor?
I thought about enrolling them but wondered, if I had to be in the pool with them, how would it work if I have two? Same reasoning why I never did Gymboree early on.
With twins you would definately need to buy two time slots. It's your decision on whether to let them go at the same time, with different instructors, or with the same instructor with back-to-back timeslots. Personally, I've seen siblings distract one another while in the pool together. But some like to do real good, to show off to their siblings. For those reasons I noticed if they were under 5 years old, it seemed better for them to go separate times.
As for going in the pool with twins, if you want to take the mommy and me class, you can bring a friend or relative. Then you can both do the class with both kids. I saw kids come with dads, grandparents, nannies. I do remember a few sets of twins in that class.
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Thank you!! I never heard an explanation like this, and since we just bought a pool I'll try and use these skills with her!!
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Posted 6/4/08 10:31 PM |
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Posted by waterspout4
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
So, in the bathtub, teach him to get to the wall and not as much to me?
Um, well. Don't take it so literally. Not everything can be taught exactly in the bathtub. One of the main things you can do in the bathtub is when water gets in his face, you need to blow a quick raspberry. If you do it consistantly, he will start to blow water out of his mouth.
We have actually been getting into the bath together and I let him swim a little and then come back to me. Given his small size, there is actually room to do this. So, I really was wondering if I should be teaching him to find the wall in the bathtub! Great pointer about the raspberries!!!!!
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Posted 6/4/08 10:33 PM |
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waterspout4
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Posted by dooodles
Did you ever receive a tip as an instructor? DH and I were wondering about that last night.
When I called for the private lessons, I made sure that DD will learn how to flip from the face down position into the face up position. Do they learn to swim to the wall later on? She is 10 months and at the end of her sessions, she will be tested with her clothes on to make sure this is something she can accomplish.
It's not quite ''swimming' to the wall. Everything they learn in the lessons is used to save themselves. That is why about half the lesson is kicking. They have the natural instinct to kick in the water. After some time, they can kick to the wall. But they need to know how to grab onto the wall as well. Watch your next lesson very closely. You should see the instructor working on kciking and grabbing onto the wall.
As for a tip, I usually received a 'present' for Christmas. But there were a few that tipped during the year, especially if they knew they wouldn't be around for the holidays.
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waterspout4
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Posted by ChilisWife
Thanks for that great post.
Are mommy and me classes something totally different than Saf-t-swim, or is it part of saf-t-swim but just different than private lessons?
Same pool and part of Saf-T-Swim. Same instructors. Just a group class.
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Posted 6/4/08 10:36 PM |
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waterspout4
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Posted by architectnycity
I did Mommy and Me and now we are in Mommy and Me Down Under. It may have been our instructor but in Mommy in Me we didn't really do much with getting to the wall. She did teach us how to have them get out of the pool. The instructor for down under has them hang on the wall for a bit which I think is more helpful.
In my experience it is good the class is good to get them used to the water and have something to do. Because DS is so young 8 months he is not going to really learn anything, except how to splash other kids.
You are correct. The mommy and me, part 1, is about getting used to the water. In that class you learn kicking, pop-ins (typically not getting their face in) and floats on the back. In that class as well, you should be learning what you can/can't do with your child. The instructor should be teaching you about how often a child can go under the water in a day. It's not often. Most kids like to drink the water, and that's dangerous. So you need to limit your underwater travels in their first years.
The Down Under class does the pop-ins underwater and repeats (its all about repitition) what you learned before.
FYI: Pop-ins are a simulation of falling into the pool. They are scary at first, but once kids get used to them and kick back up to the wall, it's great! You don't want their first time doing it to be when they actually fall in a pol alone. (God forbid that were to ever happen)
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
great post, thanks kelly !!
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Excellent Info!! Already looking into this and the baby is not even here yet! Thanks for the help!
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Re: My explanation of Saf-T-Swim (from a former instructor)
Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH
OK, so how does it work if you have twins?
I guess if I'm not involved it's not an issue because it's one baby to one instructor?
I thought about enrolling them but wondered, if I had to be in the pool with them, how would it work if I have two? Same reasoning why I never did Gymboree early on.
DH and I take swimming class with them on saturdays. He takes 1, I take 1.
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