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Bellaocchi
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Posted 4/11/10 8:38 PM
 
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MrsGmomof3
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Re: What do you make of this?

I've heard of it. I think its disgraceful. They are "fed up with" the housing market, so lets make it worse by flooding it with foreclosures Chat Icon

Posted 4/11/10 8:49 PM
 

Christine
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Re: What do you make of this?

I think it's complete and utter BS. They CHOSE to buy a house at the price they bought it at and AGREED to make these payments. Shame on them.

Posted 4/11/10 8:52 PM
 

rileysmama
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Re: What do you make of this?

I think she will only screw herself in the end, as her credit will forever be ruined.

And what if her DH leaves her?

Stupid idea, if you ask me.

I think everyone is fed up with certain things, and you can cut corners and do under-hand stuff, but in the end, you will have to pay the piper.

Posted 4/11/10 8:56 PM
 

KittyGags
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Re: What do you make of this?

I know someone doing this as well. She bought when the market was super high and now shes owes more than the house is even worth...

She is getting married in 2 weeks and they just bought a house in her FH's name to move into...

I don't think its the right thing to do but I can't say what I would do in that situation.

Posted 4/11/10 9:05 PM
 

KLSbear
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Re: What do you make of this?

Posted by Christine

I think it's complete and utter BS. They CHOSE to buy a house at the price they bought it at and AGREED to make these payments. Shame on them.



I agree with this - shame on her. On top of it, your friend is an selfish, irresponsible idiot that doesn't care a bit about anyone but her self-centered little a$$. She made a commitment to her mortgage and now because she can't afford what she purchased she's screwing the lender and ruining her credit because it suits her selfish needs and she's screwing her neighbors and the rest of LI by adding to the foreclosures. If her DH leaves her or dies she's SOL with ruined credit and she'd deserve what she gets.

Posted 4/11/10 9:14 PM
 

LightUpOurLife
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Re: What do you make of this?

Posted by KLSbear

Posted by Christine

I think it's complete and utter BS. They CHOSE to buy a house at the price they bought it at and AGREED to make these payments. Shame on them.



I agree with this - shame on her. On top of it, your friend is an selfish, irresponsible idiot that doesn't care a bit about anyone but her self-centered little a$$. She made a commitment to her mortgage and now because she can't afford what she purchased she's screwing the lender and ruining her credit because it suits her selfish needs and she's screwing her neighbors and the rest of LI by adding to the foreclosures. If her DH leaves her or dies she's SOL with ruined credit and she'd deserve what she gets.



These two sum up what I think perfectly. She's a disgrace.

Posted 4/11/10 9:17 PM
 

LoriH
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Re: What do you make of this?

As someone whose house is worth way less then what we paid for it, I can understand how frustrating it is. However, I would never do what she is proposing.

I'm not even sure it will work out for her in the end. Not a lawyer but don't see how she can just take his name off the mortgage and he would be free and clear of this. Maybe I am just naive to the sneaky crap dishonest people get away with.

Posted 4/11/10 9:24 PM
 

KLSbear
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Re: What do you make of this?

Posted by LoriH

As someone whose house is worth way less then what we paid for it, I can understand how frustrating it is. However, I would never do what she is proposing.

I'm not even sure it will work out for her in the end. Not a lawyer but don't see how she can just take his name off the mortgage and he would be free and clear of this. Maybe I am just naive to the sneaky crap dishonest people get away with.



I'd love to find out if there was a way to turn her in for some sort of fraud by taking his name off the mortgage to pull this scam.

Posted 4/11/10 9:29 PM
 

BaroqueMama
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Re: What do you make of this?

I think the fact that an attorney advised her to do this is even scarier than the fact that she's doing it. Chat Icon
I mean, for some people, yes, they need to do this if they lost their jobs and can't find another, have serious medical issues with bills that they can't keep up with, etc., but I think it's incredibly irresponsible to do this the way your friend is.
I mean, I get it, people's houses are now worth less than what they paid, but they never should have bought it in the first place if they couldn't afford it to begin withChat Icon
It's upsetting because I waited and waited to buy a house so that I could buy something I can afford with my husband. I lived in two rooms with my husband and my daughter at my parents' house to save money. I sacrificed so much just to have a house that i could afford and there's people out there just not caring about that responsibility. And we'll all pay the price.

Posted 4/11/10 9:29 PM
 

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Re: What do you make of this?

Posted by ToriaRae
She stopped making payments on her mortgage . She told me that most of her clients are doing this as well b/c they are fed up with the current housing market. She told me that she went to see an attorney and he advised her to do this. I find this very strange. Chat Icon



People like her are the reason the housing market is the way it is. That is the most selfish thing I have ever heard. Is she fed up paying taxes, driving the speed limit, stopping at red lights? Maybe she should stop doing those things too.

Did she call her mortgage company to ask about a modification or look into any HAMP programs?

Posted 4/11/10 9:36 PM
 

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Re: What do you make of this?

One of my mom's co-workers is doing this as well. It is very irresponsible and this is the whole reason why the market is down. I understand if there are extenuating circumstances, but this is not the case for her.

Posted 4/11/10 9:43 PM
 

Beth
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Re: What do you make of this?

Posted by LoriH

As someone whose house is worth way less then what we paid for it, I can understand how frustrating it is. However, I would never do what she is proposing.

I'm not even sure it will work out for her in the end. Not a lawyer but don't see how she can just take his name off the mortgage and he would be free and clear of this. Maybe I am just naive to the sneaky crap dishonest people get away with.



the only way to take his name off the mortgage is to refi it off

is she doing this to get a modification? or does she just want to foreclose on it

if she really can't afford it- that's one thing- but to purposely not pay is very foolish and short sighted

people including my own father tried to convince me to just let the mustang get repoed- I really can't afford it- but I kill myself to keep up with it while I sell it- good things happen to good people b/c I have a buyer willing to pay what I owe and another guy who wants to take over the payments- I am very glad I did the right thing for myself and my future!
if she doesn't want the house and can't afford it- she should just short sell it

no offense to anyone but this isn't the first time the housing market has dropped- people are acting like the sky is falling- houses were NEVER meant to be a short term get rich quick scheme- people willing to do stuff like this b/c they are "fed-up" are making things worse then they need to be and should be ashamed

Posted 4/11/10 9:46 PM
 

Ever-After
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Re: What do you make of this?

wow. Some people's responses are very intense Chat Icon Jeez.

As for the whole concept of just not paying your mortgage and eventually getting kicked out only to get another house in a different name... I've never even heard of people doing this. Sounds pretty extreme to me. I think that if it were me, I would rather just try to put my house up for sale and get a cheaper one (or apartment) rather than just letting my credit go to crap. I'd feel very irresponsible to do something like that. I don't understand why people buy houses that they can't afford... but of course I do understand that in time situations can change esp with the economy nonsense. I still think this is kind of an irresponsible move tho.

Posted 4/11/10 9:48 PM
 

Beth
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Re: What do you make of this?

I just want to add...it's not so easy to get a mortgage these days with 1 person on it

once the bank gets wind that they are married- chances of being approved for another loan will drop

the lawyer that advised this should be dis-bared (spelling)

Posted 4/11/10 9:49 PM
 

Bellaocchi
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Re: What do you make of this?

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Message edited 8/25/2010 10:50:43 PM.

Posted 4/11/10 9:56 PM
 

Bellaocchi
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Re: What do you make of this?

Posted by Beth

I just want to add...it's not so easy to get a mortgage these days with 1 person on it

once the bank gets wind that they are married- chances of being approved for another loan will drop

the lawyer that advised this should be dis-bared (spelling)

- I agree.

Posted 4/11/10 9:56 PM
 

CouponKT
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Re: What do you make of this?

I know someone doing this as well, and it really gets me in the gut. I almost take it personally!
I am trying to do the right thing and find a house I can decently afford, yet people like that are out there screwing the rest of us Chat Icon

Don't even get me started....... Chat Icon

Posted 4/11/10 10:25 PM
 

Mushesgirl
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Re: What do you make of this?

A friend of a friend is doing this. I was also appalled, AND even more appalled that I read her statuses on FB saying "just came back from the spa" "Just came back from shopping got my Coach on" "Just came back from a trip to Florida", meanwhile I KNOW she's not paying her mortgage!!!Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon and i'm like you selfish witch (substitute other word).

I guess people don't care about credit anymore, you can always rent. And if your house is worth less then I guess you're like what's the point of knocking myself out. I dunno call me crazy but you HAVE to figure out how much you can pay maximum (in case one of you loose your job, medical crisis, etc) and don't mortgage more than you can chew so to speak. But people don't do that.

Posted 4/11/10 10:44 PM
 

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Re: What do you make of this?

I think it's dishonest and that is one of the MAJOR reason we had a huge mortgage crisis.

People defaulting on loans RUINS mortgage companies.

Let's say she was given a loan of $400K. She defaults on it.

The mortgage company cannot sell this house now for the $400K. Mutiply by all those people doing the same thing = huge mess we are in!!!!

So what... I don't feel like paying now.. and I can just default. Can you imagine if all homeowners were doing that. It would be a catastrophe.

She signed a contract to buy this house. To get out of it... she does have the option to sell it.

Posted 4/11/10 10:49 PM
 

eddiesmommy
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Re: What do you make of this?

at the risk of being flamed for being honest.....this whole mortgage bail out thing and people like this PISS me OFF!

Its one thing if they lose their jobs, have some medical hardship and cant pay....I get that, and it happens, always has.

Its the new, lets bailout everyone who bought a house they couldnt afford. Who signed up for an ARM, and then went the rate went up and they couldnt afford it, they defaulted. When everyone was so obsessed with McMansions and bought homes they couldnt afford.

What ever happened to personal accountability. YOU took out the mortgage....YOU are responsible for it. I honestly, dont care what your bank told you, its your mortgage, your home, your money and YOUR responsibility to work out all the numbers and make sure you can afford it. I dont care that mortgage companies gave people mortgages who shouldnt have had one in the first place......these people HAD to know they were financially unfit to buy a home.

I bought during the bubble and my home is now worth SIGNIFICANTLY less than what we paid for it. Oh well......at least we took personal responsibility when we were buying it in the first place and ONLY bought a home we could afford. We didnt over extend ourselves. Could we take the easy way out and default just for the hell of it.....so we can take advantage of the burst and upgrade....we could. However, we WONT.

We bought a home we could afford, we were eligible for a traditional (not subprime mortgage) and thats what we did. We are responsible and will continue to be.

It p#sses me off to no end, that we the responsible home owners have to shoulder the burden for those who didnt have a pot to pee in but bought a house anyway.

Our house is worth less that it was when we bought, like I said, but you know what.....thats the housing market. It happens, suck it up and be responsible.

Posted 4/11/10 11:00 PM
 

KLSbear
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Re: What do you make of this?

Posted by Mushesgirl

I guess people don't care about credit anymore, you can always rent.



You may have a hard time renting, or even getting a decent job with bad credit these days. Rental companies will look into credit before renting and lots of companies will include a credit check when considering a new hire.

Posted 4/11/10 11:00 PM
 

rileysmama
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Re: What do you make of this?

Posted by KLSbear

Posted by Mushesgirl

I guess people don't care about credit anymore, you can always rent.



You may have a hard time renting, or even getting a decent job with bad credit these days. Rental companies will look into credit before renting and lots of companies will include a credit check when considering a new hire.



yeah, I had to jump through hoops for my current place. I have a great rating, but I had to prove it. Same thing with getting a car, or anything else these days.

Posted 4/11/10 11:06 PM
 

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Re: What do you make of this?

Posted by prncsslehcar

I think the fact that an attorney advised her to do this is even scarier than the fact that she's doing it. Chat Icon




Only she and the attorney really know the entire context of the conversation. I'm only saying this because I cannot tell you how often I have had clients or potential clients say, "but you said I should _______" when I would never advise what they are saying. I have even been in the exact situation of having people ask me how long a foreclosure would take, me just answering that question and the person later telling me that I offered advice on what to do with that information. This is why I summarize so many meetings in writing.

People who can afford to keep making payments will generally ride out a down turn in the housing market. People who go into foreclosure or surrender homes in bankruptcy will often present the situations to friends and family as if they are in total control and it is a calculated move, but how many people really want these to happen to them?

Posted 4/12/10 12:36 AM
 

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Re: What do you make of this?

Posted by KLSbear

Posted by Christine

I think it's complete and utter BS. They CHOSE to buy a house at the price they bought it at and AGREED to make these payments. Shame on them.



I agree with this - shame on her. On top of it, your friend is an selfish, irresponsible idiot that doesn't care a bit about anyone but her self-centered little a$$. She made a commitment to her mortgage and now because she can't afford what she purchased she's screwing the lender and ruining her credit because it suits her selfish needs and she's screwing her neighbors and the rest of LI by adding to the foreclosures. If her DH leaves her or dies she's SOL with ruined credit and she'd deserve what she gets.



She also's screwing ALL of us by making it more difficult for EVERYONE to get mortgages. As long as people continue to do this, mortgage investors that provide a large percentage of the financing to the market will continue to stay away.

But more mortgage companies are going after deficiency judgements these days so this may well come back to bite her HARD...

Posted 4/12/10 7:49 AM
 
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