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"Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
I was under the impression that if you use powdered formula that you are supposed to use purified or distilled water. I may be wrong... I usually use RTF formula, but figured I'd try out the powdered stuff for times when we are out for the day so that I just have to keep water in the bottles and then add the powder when I'm ready to feed her.
My DD just turned 2 months today. I bought the Nursery Water that they sell at BRU and used it to make the formula. I noticed that the they add Fluoride to the water... I didn't think babies were supposed to intake fluoride (aren't baby toothpastes made without fluoride?). My father, who studied chemistry in college, also informed me that fluoride can be used as rat poison and that it never leaves the body. So after giving my DD two 5 oz bottles with the stuff I am a little concerned.
Anyone use this water long term, have any problems with it or ever be told by a Pediatrician NOT to use it? Thoughts?
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
You are not supposed to use it with a baby that young. I would stop. I would not think it is a problem that you gave 2 bottles but check with the Dr.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
You are not suppose to give fluoridated water to a baby under 6 months. It is really not good to give babies this age spring water. You can by distilled water without added fluoride. If I were you I would ask the doctor.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
I was under the impression that the fluoride added is to mimic tap water which has fluoride in it and is used to promote healthy teeth. I also thought that the lack of fluoride in bottled water was the reason that is shouldn't be used.
I'm very confused now. 
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
After studying fluoride thoroughly in college I would skip it the nursery water all together. If you live on Long Island your pediatrician will probably put you on a Fl2 vitamin after 6 mos. Even then you have to make your decision if it's something that you want to give daily, weekly, monthly or not at all. Being in the dental field I see fluorosis all of the time which is telling me these children are being over prescribed Fl2. It's an interesting topic and no one can tell you what to do. You just have to do your research and go with your gut instinct. I am here if you have any dental questions 
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
Posted by BlessedMommy
After studying fluoride thoroughly in college I would skip it the nursery water all together. If you live on Long Island your pediatrician will probably put you on a Fl2 vitamin after 6 mos. Even then you have to make your decision if it's something that you want to give daily, weekly, monthly or not at all. Being in the dental field I see fluorosis all of the time which is telling me these children are being over prescribed Fl2. It's an interesting topic and no one can tell you what to do. You just have to do your research and go with your gut instinct. I am here if you have any dental questions
ITA I did not study fluoride as much as you but I did do some research on the internet and too much fluoride definitely is not good for a babies teeth. It was also interesting to find out that fluorosis starts when the teeth are still under the gums before they appear in the mouth. I live in Brooklyn so the water had fluoride in it. I did some research and found out the the Brooklyn water had more fluoride in it then the nursery water. At my 6th month appoinment my doctor told me not to use spring water and I could use top water if I switched to powdered formula. Babies also need I think it is like 4-6 ounces of water a day after 6 months. So I decided that I would give one powdered formula bottle a day with either boiled tap or nursery water. My so also sometimes drinks 2 ounces of water from his sippy cup. When I make him homemade baby food I also have to sometimes use a little water. I hope this is not too much fluoride. For the rest of his bottles I use RTF formula.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
Posted by BlessedMommy
After studying fluoride thoroughly in college I would skip it the nursery water all together. If you live on Long Island your pediatrician will probably put you on a Fl2 vitamin after 6 mos. Even then you have to make your decision if it's something that you want to give daily, weekly, monthly or not at all. Being in the dental field I see fluorosis all of the time which is telling me these children are being over prescribed Fl2. It's an interesting topic and no one can tell you what to do. You just have to do your research and go with your gut instinct. I am here if you have any dental questions
NOw this scares me a bit. MY ped prescribed vitamins with floride at her 6 month well visit. I forgot to fill it until just a few days ago, and then didn't pick it, and then forgot to give it to her. Now I have it and the directions say one dropper once a day. I guess I should talk to a peds dentist before giving it to her, or at least do my own research the was I did for vaccines, huh?
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
I avoid fluoride. I never gave the water with fluoride and I don't give the vitamins the dr. prescribed since they have fluoride. Long Island tap water does NOT have fluoride and that's why doctors prescribe the vitamin with it.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
Trust me, I didn't intentionally want to do something to harm her, this was the ONLY water BRU sold. I will not continue to offer it... in fact I'm going back to the RTF formula and tossing the powdered crap.
I had a bad feeling about the powder... sounds like no one knows what water to use... distilled, tap (and who the f has the time to boil water every time she eats... I'm lucky I can find the time to boil water to feed us once a day), and now a major baby store chain only offers this fluoridated nonsense. This is SO unfair to new mom's - how the h*ll was I supposed to know this was bad... it says it's ideal for use with mixing baby formula... it has no AGE minimum on the bottle. If anything goes awry I'll just sue the pants off of Nursery Water.
I personally feel no need to ever suppliment fluoride, I feel it does more harm than good. My dad never let us have it - even when the dentist wanted us to have fluoride treatments... and my teeth are SOLID to this day after almost 35 years. She'll get the crap in her toothpaste when she's old enough not to swallow it.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
Posted by clwp
Trust me, I didn't intentionally want to do something to harm her, this was the ONLY water BRU sold. I will not continue to offer it... in fact I'm going back to the RTF formula and tossing the powdered crap.
I had a bad feeling about the powder... sounds like no one knows what water to use... distilled, tap (and who the f has the time to boil water every time she eats... I'm lucky I can find the time to boil water to feed us once a day), and now a major baby store chain only offers this fluoridated nonsense. This is SO unfair to new mom's - how the h*ll was I supposed to know this was bad... it says it's ideal for use with mixing baby formula... it has no AGE minimum on the bottle. If anything goes awry I'll just sue the pants off of Nursery Water.
I personally feel no need to ever supplement fluoride, I feel it does more harm than good. My dad never let us have it - even when the dentist wanted us to have fluoride treatments... and my teeth are SOLID to this day after almost 35 years. She'll get the crap in her toothpaste when she's old enough not to swallow it.
I totally understand how you feel. I am still wondering why doctors give out fluoride drops. I also wonder why my doctor said it was okay to give NYC tap water when it has added fluoride. I guess it is because different doctors have different opinions on the issue. I am going to speak to my PED when I go for my son's 9 month appointment next week. I can't even get away from the fluoride because it is in my tap water and spring water is not the best to give to babies either. I guess regular bottle distilled water might be best. I have to do more research. aaaaaaaah!! 
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
I use Powder formula. When DD was younger we boiled water and then made a pitcher of formula. You would have to make a bottle and then leave it to get room temp before giving it to them. Now I just use poland springs.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
Posted by lms814
I use Powder formula. When DD was younger we boiled water and then made a pitcher of formula. You would have to make a bottle and then leave it to get room temp before giving it to them. Now I just use poland springs.
Honestly, then I'll just continue to use the RTF. The only reason I wanted to use powdered every so often is that I thought it would be easier on days when we take DD out or over to my parent's or my ILs. I put 5 oz of water in the 3 baby bottles, and took 3 servings of Similac formula. When it was time to feed it seemed as easy as just adding the formula to the water... nothing to heat up b/c the bottle just had water so I didn't see a need to chill it. How easy could that be I thought... well, not at the expense of DD's health of course!
So how do people store baby's formula when they know they will have to feed outside the house? RTF formula has to be stored cold? How do you warm them if you are out and not near hot water to put the bottle in to warm the formula? Also, when you are at someone else's house and have access to hot water... what bottle brands can you stick into hot tap water to warm the formula? I just bought 8 oz Dr. Brown's BPA free bottles. What a PITA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wish I had been able to BF. Just when I didn't think I could feel worse about that.
I just called my Pediatrician's answering service and waiting for a call back. I hope I didn't harm her. They really should put an age minimum on the bottle if it should absolutely NEVER be given to babies under a certain age. I'm very frustrated and confused as to what I can do to feed my DD when we are not home.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
Posted by Summerrluvv
I avoid fluoride. I never gave the water with fluoride and I don't give the vitamins the dr. prescribed since they have fluoride. Long Island tap water does NOT have fluoride and that's why doctors prescribe the vitamin with it.
ITA......
For some reason I just dont like it. And the funny part of it is that my kids all have great teeth...
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
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Posted by lms814
I use Powder formula. When DD was younger we boiled water and then made a pitcher of formula. You would have to make a bottle and then leave it to get room temp before giving it to them. Now I just use poland springs.
Honestly, then I'll just continue to use the RTF. The only reason I wanted to use powdered every so often is that I thought it would be easier on days when we take DD out or over to my parent's or my ILs. I put 5 oz of water in the 3 baby bottles, and took 3 servings of Similac formula. When it was time to feed it seemed as easy as just adding the formula to the water... nothing to heat up b/c the bottle just had water so I didn't see a need to chill it. How easy could that be I thought... well, not at the expense of DD's health of course!
So how do people store baby's formula when they know they will have to feed outside the house? RTF formula has to be stored cold? How do you warm them if you are out and not near hot water to put the bottle in to warm the formula? Also, when you are at someone else's house and have access to hot water... what bottle brands can you stick into hot tap water to warm the formula? I just bought 8 oz Dr. Brown's BPA free bottles. What a PITA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wish I had been able to BF. Just when I didn't think I could feel worse about that.
I just called my Pediatrician's answering service and waiting for a call back. I hope I didn't harm her. They really should put an age minimum on the bottle if it should absolutely NEVER be given to babies under a certain age. I'm very frustrated and confused as to what I can do to feed my DD when we are not home.
I could only use powder (DS was on Gentlease and it only comes in powder) I used tap water. You could always get a formula pitcher and make a day's worth and then just heat it to feed DC.
Or boil a tea kettle's worth of water and then just make the bottle when need be.
But tap water is fine. My DS is perfectly healthy and it got it for 11 months of his life.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
Posted by clwp
Trust me, I didn't intentionally want to do something to harm her, this was the ONLY water BRU sold. I will not continue to offer it... in fact I'm going back to the RTF formula and tossing the powdered crap.
I had a bad feeling about the powder... sounds like no one knows what water to use... distilled, tap (and who the f has the time to boil water every time she eats... I'm lucky I can find the time to boil water to feed us once a day), and now a major baby store chain only offers this fluoridated nonsense. This is SO unfair to new mom's - how the h*ll was I supposed to know this was bad... it says it's ideal for use with mixing baby formula... it has no AGE minimum on the bottle. If anything goes awry I'll just sue the pants off of Nursery Water.
I personally feel no need to ever suppliment fluoride, I feel it does more harm than good. My dad never let us have it - even when the dentist wanted us to have fluoride treatments... and my teeth are SOLID to this day after almost 35 years. She'll get the crap in her toothpaste when she's old enough not to swallow it.
Powder formula is fine, I use it every day and it just as good as the RTF, just a lot chaper its not crap. Poland Spring & America's Choice (waldbuams) have distilled water right next to the regular water. I would not throw out perfectly fine formula.
PS: here is Nursery Water link
http://www.nurserywater.com/info/faq.php
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
There is absolutely nothing wrong with using powder formula (before people starting freaking out that it's bad). What do you think the manuf. of RTF use to make that RTF? WATER! You can use regular bottled water. I always used Poland Spring.
ETA: I never used Distilled water, I thought that was best for appliances that use water, etc.? Not really for drinking? It tastes weird, so I wouldn't give it to my kids.
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I don't know about mixing it for formula but the ped told me that if I wanted to give DS water to drink give him whatever bottled water we drink and make sure it doesn't have flouride. He gets flouride drops though.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
The ped told us to use tap water. He said there was no need to boil it but if you want to boil it then why not? I find the powder so much easier to use then the RTF.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
MY DD only likes warm bottles. So when I go out I bring a bottle of water and boil water and put it in a thermos to mix with the bottled water to make it warm for her. Its a pain but I'm use to it. When I am at home I put some ice water from the frig with some hot water from the faucet and just shake it to make luke warm water.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
Honestly, I just used tap water or Poland Spring water. Powder formula is fine. DD was also on Gentlease so we didn't have a choice. It did make life easier to be able to mix it on demand when we were out and just have a bottle of water.
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Posted by Summerrluvv
There is absolutely nothing wrong with using powder formula (before people starting freaking out that it's bad). What do you think the manuf. of RTF use to make that RTF? WATER! You can use regular bottled water. I always used Poland Spring.
ETA: I never used Distilled water, I thought that was best for appliances that use water, etc.? Not really for drinking? It tastes weird, so I wouldn't give it to my kids.
To clarify... I know that it's the same "crap" as the RTF. As I read all the responses to my post I'm reading everything from what I gave my DD was harmful to the fact that people are giving tap water, bottled water, distilled water, boiling water... and there doesn't seem to be a straight answer. I'm not going off on the formula... the subject of the post was about the friggin Nursery Water. To have to make such a fuss about water TO ME is not worth the aggrevation. If I have to boil pitchers of water and my formula brand is available in RTF, then all I'm saying is that I'll just continue on the RTF b/c there is very INCONSISTENT information regarding what the heck to mix it with. I have other things to worry about other than what water to use... if things are this complicated now I can't wait to see what will be thrown my way as she gets older. I think as mother's we should not argue with eachother about forms of formula but fight corporations about false advertising and fight to get CONSISTENT information to offer the best for our kids b/c who needs to lose sleep over the ONLY water sold at one of the largest baby specialty chains???? I didn't see any "plain" distilled water at BRU and Nursery water was on the shelves right behind the formula shelves... what is a new mother to think?
UPDATE: I spoke to the Pediatrician to find out if I poisoned my kid. He said not to continue using the Nursery water, but no harm has been done either. He told me to use distilled water at room temp - no need to boil. As per what I wrote above, I will continue to use RTF for daily/regular feedings, but when we are going out I can rest assured at this point that I can put some regular CVS distilled water in bottles and mix the powder in as neeed.
A thanks to all for info in this thread... I think we can put the topic to sleep now and chalk it up to Nursery water should not be used for young infants, maybe not at all (user discretion), and that everyone uses different methods of obtaining water and no babies have seemed to be harmed (which is the good news). And one last time... I was NOT bashing formula (powdered, RTF, concentrated or any other form of it) in this post.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
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Posted by Summerrluvv
There is absolutely nothing wrong with using powder formula (before people starting freaking out that it's bad). What do you think the manuf. of RTF use to make that RTF? WATER! You can use regular bottled water. I always used Poland Spring.
ETA: I never used Distilled water, I thought that was best for appliances that use water, etc.? Not really for drinking? It tastes weird, so I wouldn't give it to my kids.
To clarify... I know that it's the same "crap" as the RTF. As I read all the responses to my post I'm reading everything from what I gave my DD was harmful to the fact that people are giving tap water, distilled water, boiling water... and there doesn't seem to be a straight answer. I'm not going off on the formula... the subject of the post was about the friggin Nursery Water. To have to make such a fuss about water TO ME is not worth the aggrevation. If I have to boil pitchers of water and my formula brand is available in RTF, then all I'm saying is that I'll just continue on the RTF b/c there is very INCONSISTENT information regarding what the heck to mix it with. I have other things to worry about other than what water to use... if things are this complicated now I can't wait to see what will be thrown my way as she gets older. I think as mother's we should not argue with eachother about forms of formula but fight corporations about false advertising and fight to get CONSISTENT information to offer the best for our kids b/c who needs to lose sleep over the ONLY water sold at one of the largest baby specialty chains???? I didn't see any "plain" distilled water at BRU and it was on the shelves right behind the formula shelves... what is a new mother to think?
UPDATE: I spoke to the Pediatrician to find out if I poisoned my kid. He said not to continue using the Nursery water, but no harm has been done either. He told me to use distilled water at room temp - no need to boil. As per what I wrote above, I will continue to use RTF for daily/regular feedings, but when we are going out I can rest assured at this point that I can put some regular CVS distilled water in bottles and mix the powder in as neeed.
Thank you for the info in this thread... I think we can put the topic to sleep now. And one last time... I was NOT bashing formula (powdered, RTF, concentrated or any other form of it) in this post.
I think you are overeacting just a tad. No one was arguing about it, we are all sharing what we use and don't use to mix our formula. I'm glad your ped. was able to give you some advice about it.
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Re: "Nursery Water" with added Fluoride and use for baby formula
I used powdered formula and mixed it with bottled water and then have used nursery water from the time my DD was 4 mo. Nothing ever happened, the Dr. said it was OK.
I still use it... no issues here. Ever.
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NOT overreacting... just frustrated... not with the posters, but I would think that we should all be frustrated with the lack of consistent information available.
I was so worried I harmed my child... needlessly afterthefact, and when push comes to shove, the manufacturer of the Nursery water should put ON THE BOTTLE the water comes in "Not for babies under 6 months of age" or "Consult with your physician before use in children under 6 months". I'm surprised more mom's are not outraged that the company is not forced to do so. Again, as a new mom how was I to know when it was the only water there and right next to the formula on the shelves?
I'm over this now that my pediatrician clarified (and hopefully he gave me the "right" answer as far as using distilled - but I guess it can't harm her since it's just steamed water). I just wanted to try to see if there was consensus on the topic, clearly there is not, everyone does something different and the babies don't seem to suffer for it.
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