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HeathKernandez
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occupational therapist ?
Can a child go to an occupational therapist WITHOUT going through the school system.. I have been (weakly) trying for 2 years for his school's OT to evaluate him.
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Posted 1/28/09 10:53 AM |
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Re: occupational therapist ?
Yes. Get a prescription from the doctor and you can go to an OT for an evaluation. If you need a recommendation, let me know. I work w/ a few.
Message edited 1/28/2009 10:59:41 AM.
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Posted 1/28/09 10:57 AM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: occupational therapist ?
Posted by LittleBlueBug
Yes. Get a prescription from the doctor and you can go to an OT for an evaluation. If you need a recommendation, let me know. I work w/ a few.
THANK YOU..
I live in queens, but I'll travel to nassau
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Posted 1/28/09 11:07 AM |
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Re: occupational therapist ?
You can like the PP said, through your insurance. BUT, have you submitted your request in writing to the school? State law requires school districts to proceed and conduct a special education evaluation within 30 days after a parent refers the child for testing.
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Posted 1/28/09 11:15 AM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: occupational therapist ?
Posted by EmmaNick
You can like the PP said, through your insurance. BUT, have you submitted your request in writing to the school? State law requires school districts to proceed and conduct a special education evaluation within 30 days after a parent refers the child for testing.
No I have not made a written request.. But i did have a meeting with the principal and the school's psychologist at the end of LAST year about this..
The thing is... it is not affecting his school work. He is doing fine academically. I just see that he is having trouble with his fine motor skills... the way he holds his pencil, his handwriting etc etc.
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Posted 1/28/09 11:44 AM |
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Re: occupational therapist ?
Posted by KeithHernandez
Posted by EmmaNick
You can like the PP said, through your insurance. BUT, have you submitted your request in writing to the school? State law requires school districts to proceed and conduct a special education evaluation within 30 days after a parent refers the child for testing.
No I have not made a written request.. But i did have a meeting with the principal and the school's psychologist at the end of LAST year about this..
The thing is... it is not affecting his school work. He is doing fine academically. I just see that he is having trouble with his fine motor skills... the way he holds his pencil, his handwriting etc etc.
Well, fine motor is def. a part of school work, so I would pursue it. Type up a quick letter, submit it to the principal and they have 30 days. They can get into big trouble for not follwing the law when it comes to special education services.
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Posted 1/28/09 11:56 AM |
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bayla
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Re: occupational therapist ?
Posted by KeithHernandez
Can a child go to an occupational therapist WITHOUT going through the school system.. I have been (weakly) trying for 2 years for his school's OT to evaluate him.
I am an OT and yes you can. You would have to do it privately and pay out of pocket or try to go through insurance. Look in your yellow pages for OT pediatric clinic/therapists or ask around.
Has the OT in your school even looked at him though? I know if a parent has a concern, the principal or child study team will give me the alert and i will make sure to get into the classroom to observe the child, talk to the teacher, etc to see if an evaluation is warranted. The problem with the school based OT is what you said, if he's not struggling in school then they prob wont qualify him unfortunately. Although, if he has a weak grasp or poor fine motor skills it may be affecting him after all in school and maybe the teachers are missing subtle clues (e.g presses to hard or to light on the pencil, difficult time spacing words, cant write on the line, leaves out letters when copying from the board, etc). If all that is fine and you are still seeing other issues that not affecting him academically, then the way to go would be privately HTH
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Posted 1/28/09 1:19 PM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: occupational therapist ?
Posted by bayla
Posted by KeithHernandez
Can a child go to an occupational therapist WITHOUT going through the school system.. I have been (weakly) trying for 2 years for his school's OT to evaluate him.
I am an OT and yes you can. You would have to do it privately and pay out of pocket or try to go through insurance. Look in your yellow pages for OT pediatric clinic/therapists or ask around.
Has the OT in your school even looked at him though? I know if a parent has a concern, the principal or child study team will give me the alert and i will make sure to get into the classroom to observe the child, talk to the teacher, etc to see if an evaluation is warranted. The problem with the school based OT is what you said, if he's not struggling in school then they prob wont qualify him unfortunately. Although, if he has a weak grasp or poor fine motor skills it may be affecting him after all in school and maybe the teachers are missing subtle clues (e.g presses to hard or to light on the pencil, difficult time spacing words, cant write on the line, leaves out letters when copying from the board, etc). If all that is fine and you are still seeing other issues that not affecting him academically, then the way to go would be privately HTH
I have talked with the principal. I'm very active in his school and am on a bunch of committees with her so she KNOWS me... I will admit, I didn't try HARD enough... but after the 3rd time of TRYING to contact the OT to follow up with her, I called the principal directly.
had a small *meeting* with her & the school psych one afternoon when I happened to be at his school...
Since it was the en of the school year, I didn't expect anyone to get back to me.
Here we are into the second half of the school year and I hear second hand that there is a NEW OT.
I will admit, I didn't follow up at the beginning of the year so I know it is partly my fault. I'm just dreading attempting to get anywhere with the school and was wondering whether or not I should just do it privately.
Do YOU take insurance??
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Posted 1/28/09 11:17 PM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: occupational therapist ?
btw.. thank you to EVERYONE for their help..
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Posted 1/28/09 11:18 PM |
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bayla
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Re: occupational therapist ?
Posted by KeithHernandez
Posted by bayla
Posted by KeithHernandez
Can a child go to an occupational therapist WITHOUT going through the school system.. I have been (weakly) trying for 2 years for his school's OT to evaluate him.
I am an OT and yes you can. You would have to do it privately and pay out of pocket or try to go through insurance. Look in your yellow pages for OT pediatric clinic/therapists or ask around.
Has the OT in your school even looked at him though? I know if a parent has a concern, the principal or child study team will give me the alert and i will make sure to get into the classroom to observe the child, talk to the teacher, etc to see if an evaluation is warranted. The problem with the school based OT is what you said, if he's not struggling in school then they prob wont qualify him unfortunately. Although, if he has a weak grasp or poor fine motor skills it may be affecting him after all in school and maybe the teachers are missing subtle clues (e.g presses to hard or to light on the pencil, difficult time spacing words, cant write on the line, leaves out letters when copying from the board, etc). If all that is fine and you are still seeing other issues that not affecting him academically, then the way to go would be privately HTH
I have talked with the principal. I'm very active in his school and am on a bunch of committees with her so she KNOWS me... I will admit, I didn't try HARD enough... but after the 3rd time of TRYING to contact the OT to follow up with her, I called the principal directly.
had a small *meeting* with her & the school psych one afternoon when I happened to be at his school...
Since it was the en of the school year, I didn't expect anyone to get back to me.
Here we are into the second half of the school year and I hear second hand that there is a NEW OT.
I will admit, I didn't follow up at the beginning of the year so I know it is partly my fault. I'm just dreading attempting to get anywhere with the school and was wondering whether or not I should just do it privately.
Do YOU take insurance??
unfortunately I am not in the area, and i can't even make any recommendations either since i dont know anyone in the area. I would say def keep up with the school and bother them LOL seriously, as a parent you really call the shots, keep calling the Principal, or try to leave a message for the new OT to call you back (leave a note in her mailbox, etc). Another thing you could do is bypass the principal if she is not responding, call the special education department for your school, and find out who the case manager is, who is in charge of that school or your child's grade, and see if you can talk with them. She/he can also guide you in the right direction. If all else fails, def look into the private OT. Call your insurance company and see what's covered. Any other questions, feel free to FM me ETA- like the OP suggested, you can also put your concerns into a formal letter and i would hand deliver it to the principal
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Posted 1/29/09 12:12 AM |
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sasha96
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Re: occupational therapist ?
honestly, if you want the school to evaluate you need to contact the sp. ed. dept. the building principal has nothing to do with sp. ed. (i'm speech). sp. ed. employees of the district work for the sp. ed. director technically, not directly for the principal (though we work for them too). write up a request and submit it to sp. ed. all they can do is evaluate and have the CSE and tell you that your DC doesn't qualify. you can still go through insurance and have your child evaluated/get services. if your child doesn't qualify still, you can search out a private therapist and pay out of pocket as you would for a tutor, though therapists can be somewhat expensive as we are highly specialized services.
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Posted 1/29/09 1:16 PM |
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bayla
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Re: occupational therapist ?
Posted by sasha96
honestly, if you want the school to evaluate you need to contact the sp. ed. dept. the building principal has nothing to do with sp. ed. (i'm speech). sp. ed. employees of the district work for the sp. ed. director technically, not directly for the principal (though we work for them too). write up a request and submit it to sp. ed. all they can do is evaluate and have the CSE and tell you that your DC doesn't qualify. you can still go through insurance and have your child evaluated/get services. if your child doesn't qualify still, you can search out a private therapist and pay out of pocket as you would for a tutor, though therapists can be somewhat expensive as we are highly specialized services.
while i agree that contacting the spec ed department will prob yield quicker results (esp in this case), their are some schools where you can contact the Principal and they will guide you effectively. In one of schools my principal is very involved and if a parent has a concern, she immediately contacts me (or speech or PT) as well as contacts the child study team. I think it depends on the school your in
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Little-J-Mommy
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Re: occupational therapist ?
I didn't read every response thoroughly so this may have been said already but.....send a written request to your district's office for special education. They have 30 days to comply by setting up an eval and meeting. I would def take this approach if you're not getting the results you want through the building principal and psychologist. You are your child's biggest advocate, if you feel something is wrong, don't let anyone make you feel bad for pushing the issue.
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sasha96
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Re: occupational therapist ?
Posted by bayla
Posted by sasha96
honestly, if you want the school to evaluate you need to contact the sp. ed. dept. the building principal has nothing to do with sp. ed. (i'm speech). sp. ed. employees of the district work for the sp. ed. director technically, not directly for the principal (though we work for them too). write up a request and submit it to sp. ed. all they can do is evaluate and have the CSE and tell you that your DC doesn't qualify. you can still go through insurance and have your child evaluated/get services. if your child doesn't qualify still, you can search out a private therapist and pay out of pocket as you would for a tutor, though therapists can be somewhat expensive as we are highly specialized services.
while i agree that contacting the spec ed department will prob yield quicker results (esp in this case), their are some schools where you can contact the Principal and they will guide you effectively. In one of schools my principal is very involved and if a parent has a concern, she immediately contacts me (or speech or PT) as well as contacts the child study team. I think it depends on the school your in
that is true, but in this case, after 2 years of contact about the concerns, not much has been done so I think a note to sp. ed. with the principal copied on it will get the results if they want the district to test.
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Posted 1/29/09 6:02 PM |
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bayla
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Re: occupational therapist ?
Posted by sasha96
Posted by bayla
Posted by sasha96
honestly, if you want the school to evaluate you need to contact the sp. ed. dept. the building principal has nothing to do with sp. ed. (i'm speech). sp. ed. employees of the district work for the sp. ed. director technically, not directly for the principal (though we work for them too). write up a request and submit it to sp. ed. all they can do is evaluate and have the CSE and tell you that your DC doesn't qualify. you can still go through insurance and have your child evaluated/get services. if your child doesn't qualify still, you can search out a private therapist and pay out of pocket as you would for a tutor, though therapists can be somewhat expensive as we are highly specialized services.
while i agree that contacting the spec ed department will prob yield quicker results (esp in this case), their are some schools where you can contact the Principal and they will guide you effectively. In one of schools my principal is very involved and if a parent has a concern, she immediately contacts me (or speech or PT) as well as contacts the child study team. I think it depends on the school your in
that is true, but in this case, after 2 years of contact about the concerns, not much has been done so I think a note to sp. ed. with the principal copied on it will get the results if they want the district to test.
I absolutely agree
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