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DomesticDeeva
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Re: Random QOTD
I believe it is genetic, and something triggers it. Whether that be something in the environment (mercury, BPA in plastics, etc), or vaccines, or something in our diets.
I saw a show on Discovery Health about a family where all 6 kids were born with autism, to varying degrees. This to me shows that it is genetic, but I have no clue as to what triggers the gene. I am still paranoid about vaccines, even if the court ruled they don't cause it, I am still skeptical
I hope that someday soon they will figure out the cause
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Posted 2/17/09 2:29 PM |
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mcl916
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Re: Random QOTD
I believe it's genetic- that there is an auto-immune response to a trigger. I think that vaccines could trigger that response, but I also believe it would be triggered by an illness at some point and that's why vaccines aren't the only culprit.
I really wish they will find the answers soon so we don't have to guess at this
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Posted 2/17/09 2:43 PM |
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trish71407
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Re: Random QOTD
Posted by MrsFlatbread
Posted by prncss
I think there is a genetic predisposition to it and some other unknown factors. I do NOT think it has anything to do with vaccines.
what she said
I agree!
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Posted 2/17/09 2:46 PM |
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DC HJJ M
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Re: Random QOTD
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by krissy888
I've read that the age of the father can be an issue, has anyone heard of that?
Yes- this was included in a study. More children with autism have older fathers.
what about the age of the mother? does that make a difference?
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Posted 2/17/09 2:49 PM |
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Re: Random QOTD
Like others have said, Genetics and environmental. I don't believe it has anything to do with vaccines.
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Posted 2/17/09 2:53 PM |
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Porrruss
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Re: Random QOTD
Posted by HannahsMommy
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by krissy888
I've read that the age of the father can be an issue, has anyone heard of that?
Yes- this was included in a study. More children with autism have older fathers.
what about the age of the mother? does that make a difference?
Not according to the studies done if I recall.
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Posted 2/17/09 3:07 PM |
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maybebaby
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Re: Random QOTD
Well as the parent of a child who may be diagnosed on the spectrum soon, I WISH i knew.
-We are both young and were 28 when he was born.
-Zero family history. I am one of 6 kids and the eldest of 32 grandchildren (just on one side) and there isn't a trace of it ALTHOUGH I can think of one cousin with possible undiagnoses aspergers (totally non social as a child, not much eye contact, tantrums BUT brilliant..now a doctor).
-I did everything right. I ate right, took my vitamins, had a great and quick delivery at 41 weeks...
Everyday there is some new "theory" as to what is causing it. Some have been...
-Vaccines -Fathers Age -Exposure to TV -At least one parent who is in a really technical kind of industry like an engineer or scientist, etc.. -Pitocin in labor
There are many more and I can't think of them now but my stomach will drop when reading the theories and I have to remember I did NOT do this and to shake it off. But it's hard.
Johnnys teacher and therapists have all told me they think its environmental and genetic factors....pretty scary. I wouldn't doubt it.
Every single year more and more stuff is put into humans bodies...some intentional, some unintentional. It builds in your DNA. Years and years from now it'll be more disorders/diseases to worry about and I'm sure the autism rates will continue to rise.
I think my son is going to be just fine b/c hes awesome, a completely wonderful and happy child who has some quirks. I wish we weren't going through it, BUT i don't wish for any other experience or child so this is what God has given me. I am fearful that the next baby will have it worse...of course it nags at me, but I will cross that bridge when we come to it and in the meantime do all I can for my son, and pray for the future.
I so hope to live to see more answers to this disorder!!!!!!!
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Posted 2/17/09 3:15 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Random QOTD
I think it's genetic. Tons of evidence point in that direction. They are coming up with tests to detect Autism in babies that are very young (under 1 year). In hindsight, many parents realize that "quirks" in their infant were actually early signs.
Genetics doesn't have to be obvious. It can easily lie dormant for generations. There are many couples that have dark hair, but DC are blonde. Family history has to start somewhere....
Since Autism is in every culture, every society, etc, I can't imagine that environment "causes" it. Societies with essentially no chemicals in their environment, no vaccines at all, no TV, no cell phones, etc, still get Autism.
I've also been reading up on vaccines, and most experts concur that the amount of stuff we put into DC is well below the levels that they can handle. The human body is pretty amazing.
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Posted 2/17/09 3:57 PM |
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CathyB
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Re: Random QOTD
Posted by prncss
I think there is a genetic predisposition to it and some other unknown factors. I do NOT think it has anything to do with vaccines.
I agree.
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Posted 2/17/09 3:58 PM |
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btrflygrl
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Re: Random QOTD
genetics....mutations of genes. If vaccines caused it, even more kids would have it.
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Posted 2/17/09 4:12 PM |
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BabyAvocado
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Re: Random QOTD
I believe there's a genetic predispostion combined with an envirsionmental or a combination of environmental triggers.
There are several things I suspect as being possible contributing factors:
-amount of exposure to television -diet and/or vitamin deficiencies -some commonly used drug or chemical that we are overlooking
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Posted 2/17/09 4:18 PM |
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dandr10199
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Re: Random QOTD
Posted by krissy888
I think it could be the MMR, DS will not be receiving that until he is three. I know many studies says it is not that, but I am skeptical and very scared.
I agree. Although I feel that the mercury, or whatever else they put in vaccines may trigger it in some that are genitally predisposed to it. 1 in 150 are HARD numbers to ignore. Meaning that I do not remember there being 1 in 150 of the kids in my grade school having Autism.
We delayed the MMR and separated the MMR, got thimerisol free vaccines in single dose vials. She started the first shot at 2yrs, 3 months. People thought i was nuts, I go into some heated debates on here, yet I felt I did what was best for my DD.
I know of too many mothers that really believe autism is caused by the toxins in the vaccines triggering the autism, like a permanent allergic reaction, of sorts.
ETA: My DD watches less than 1.5 hours of TV a day, eats an organic diet, and rarely I mean RARELY has any sugar or HFCS. Just in case it is not vaccines and something else in food, or by watching too much TV, I am covering my bases.
Message edited 2/17/2009 4:22:06 PM.
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Posted 2/17/09 4:19 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Random QOTD
Posted by dandr10199
Posted by krissy888
I think it could be the MMR, DS will not be receiving that until he is three. I know many studies says it is not that, but I am skeptical and very scared.
I agree. Although I feel that the mercury, or whatever else they put in vaccines may trigger it in some that are genitally predisposed to it. 1 in 150 are HARD numbers to ignore. Meaning that I do not remember there being 1 in 150 of the kids in my grade school having Autism.
We delayed the MMR and separated the MMR, got thimerisol free vaccines in single dose vials. She started the first shot at 2yrs, 3 months. People thought i was nuts, I go into some heated debates on here, yet I felt I did what was best for my DD.
I know of too many mothers that really believe autism is caused by the toxins in the vaccines triggering the autism, like a permanent allergic reaction, of sorts.
ETA: My DD watches less than 1.5 hours of TV a day, eats an organic diet, and rarely I mean RARELY has any sugar or HFCS. Just in case it is not vaccines and something else in food, or by watching too much TV, I am covering my bases.
The sad/scary thing is you CAN'T cover your bases until they figure out what is causing it. Maybe it's living near a large city. Maybe it's the mother using certain cosmetics during pregnancy. Maybe it's the father watching too much TV just before conception. Maybe the split MMR vaccine is worse than the combined one. Maybe it's "fresh air" and organic food. At this point, any guess is as valid as the next. Nobody has proven that any of my "theories" that I listed DOESN'T cause Autism.....
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Posted 2/17/09 4:28 PM |
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KateDevine
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Re: Random QOTD
Posted by dandr10199
I agree. Although I feel that the mercury, or whatever else they put in vaccines may trigger it in some that are genitally predisposed to it. 1 in 150 are HARD numbers to ignore. Meaning that I do not remember there being 1 in 150 of the kids in my grade school having Autism.
I am by no means trying to argue with you, but don't you think that is because know more now? We know soo much more when it comes to these things.
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Posted 2/17/09 4:29 PM |
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cluprncs3
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Re: Random QOTD
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by dandr10199
Posted by krissy888
I think it could be the MMR, DS will not be receiving that until he is three. I know many studies says it is not that, but I am skeptical and very scared.
I agree. Although I feel that the mercury, or whatever else they put in vaccines may trigger it in some that are genitally predisposed to it. 1 in 150 are HARD numbers to ignore. Meaning that I do not remember there being 1 in 150 of the kids in my grade school having Autism.
We delayed the MMR and separated the MMR, got thimerisol free vaccines in single dose vials. She started the first shot at 2yrs, 3 months. People thought i was nuts, I go into some heated debates on here, yet I felt I did what was best for my DD.
I know of too many mothers that really believe autism is caused by the toxins in the vaccines triggering the autism, like a permanent allergic reaction, of sorts.
ETA: My DD watches less than 1.5 hours of TV a day, eats an organic diet, and rarely I mean RARELY has any sugar or HFCS. Just in case it is not vaccines and something else in food, or by watching too much TV, I am covering my bases.
The sad/scary thing is you CAN'T cover your bases until they figure out what is causing it. Maybe it's living near a large city. Maybe it's the mother using certain cosmetics during pregnancy. Maybe it's the father watching too much TV just before conception. Maybe the split MMR vaccine is worse than the combined one. Maybe it's "fresh air" and organic food. At this point, any guess is as valid as the next. Nobody has proven that any of my "theories" that I listed DOESN'T cause Autism.....
Very well said...
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Posted 2/17/09 4:31 PM |
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dandr10199
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Re: Random QOTD
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by dandr10199
Posted by krissy888
I think it could be the MMR, DS will not be receiving that until he is three. I know many studies says it is not that, but I am skeptical and very scared.
I agree. Although I feel that the mercury, or whatever else they put in vaccines may trigger it in some that are genitally predisposed to it. 1 in 150 are HARD numbers to ignore. Meaning that I do not remember there being 1 in 150 of the kids in my grade school having Autism.
We delayed the MMR and separated the MMR, got thimerisol free vaccines in single dose vials. She started the first shot at 2yrs, 3 months. People thought i was nuts, I go into some heated debates on here, yet I felt I did what was best for my DD.
I know of too many mothers that really believe autism is caused by the toxins in the vaccines triggering the autism, like a permanent allergic reaction, of sorts.
ETA: My DD watches less than 1.5 hours of TV a day, eats an organic diet, and rarely I mean RARELY has any sugar or HFCS. Just in case it is not vaccines and something else in food, or by watching too much TV, I am covering my bases.
The sad/scary thing is you CAN'T cover your bases until they figure out what is causing it. Maybe it's living near a large city. Maybe it's the mother using certain cosmetics during pregnancy. Maybe it's the father watching too much TV just before conception. Maybe the split MMR vaccine is worse than the combined one. Maybe it's "fresh air" and organic food. At this point, any guess is as valid as the next. Nobody has proven that any of my "theories" that I listed DOESN'T cause Autism.....
The OP asked in your heart of hearts... What do YOU believe? So that is What I BELIEVE. Right, wrong, naive, ignorant, whatever. I understand your point about doing all these things and you still cannot cover your bases until you know the cause. However, I do know of a few woman who had children who did not show signs of Autism until AFTER the MMR.
Not saying I am right, I could be totally WRONG, but I do know that not everything is what it seems. I would not be surprised if some big conspiracy theory about drug companies paying the gov or health plans to keep quiet or something was going on. Then again I could be a total dumb arse about this too. Who knows.
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Posted 2/17/09 4:37 PM |
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ddunne2
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Re: Random QOTD
Posted by prncss
I think there is a genetic predisposition to it and some other unknown factors. I do NOT think it has anything to do with vaccines.
My thoughts exactly.
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Posted 2/17/09 4:41 PM |
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EmmaNick
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Re: Random QOTD
Does anyone have a link to the research study on TV causing autsim? This is a new one to me. I've heard the ADHD connection, but not the Autism one. Although my son didn't watch TV as an infant, so I'm not entirely buying that theory, or the age one (we were both 22).
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Posted 2/17/09 5:22 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Random QOTD
Posted by dandr10199
The OP asked in your heart of hearts... What do YOU believe? So that is What I BELIEVE. Right, wrong, naive, ignorant, whatever. I understand your point about doing all these things and you still cannot cover your bases until you know the cause. However, I do know of a few woman who had children who did not show signs of Autism until AFTER the MMR.
Not saying I am right, I could be totally WRONG, but I do know that not everything is what it seems. I would not be surprised if some big conspiracy theory about drug companies paying the gov or health plans to keep quiet or something was going on. Then again I could be a total dumb arse about this too. Who knows.
I'm not questioning YOUR thoughts, I'm just saying that none of us can cover our bases, no matter what we think, and that's the scary thing. We all think that what we are doing is the right thing, but until we know what causes it, what we are doing may actually make things worse...
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Posted 2/18/09 7:42 AM |
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megsm3
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Re: Random QOTD
Posted by Xelindrya
I think it’s a combination of a lot of things
Genes Lifestyle Vaccinations Society Luck
Genes: it’s in our bodies. It’s either triggered or developed as the baby develops
Lifestyle: we are exposed to so many new chemicals that are in our day to day life. It would not surprise me if it started to affect our offspring in some way or another.
Vaccinations: too much, too fast, too often. Times have changed but the drugs have not caught up with the illnesses, the needs of children as a whole and have not yet become personalized, which would probably help.
Society: We probably always had a large number of autism cases. We just notice it more because society has come to a point where its conscious enough of our members who have autism. Its not just hidden away anymore.
Luck: To avoid further flame. I’ll just say its dumb bad luck sometimes. Personally, I blame it all on one entity.. but that angers people
I agree!
I also think that because it is a spectrum disorder you hear about more and more people with some form of autism, not necessarily the same disorder they would have diagnosed years ago.
My ped actually said in his years of practice he has seen more and more children being diagnosed who years ago would have just been seen as withdrawn or a loner, but now they are more equipped to give them a diagnosis and the proper services.
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Posted 2/18/09 8:00 AM |
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nbc188
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Re: Random QOTD
I agree with most everyone else...genetics/environment/better diagnosis
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Posted 2/18/09 8:27 AM |
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InShock
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Re: Random QOTD
I believe some kids have it genetically, and NO matter what happens environmentally, those kids have it. I also believe that some children have a genetic predisposition, and some environmental factor triggers it.
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Posted 2/18/09 8:50 AM |
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