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LittleDiva
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Record number of EO by Biden
"I have this strange notion, we are a democracy ... if you can't get the votes ... you can't [legislate] by executive order unless you're a dictator. We're a democracy. We need consensus."
Those are the words of Joe Biden.
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Posted 1/29/21 3:51 PM  |
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queensgal
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
It’s amazing what can be accomplished when a president doesn’t spend every day using tax payer money to funnel to his own golf course!
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| Posted 1/29/21 4:41 PM |
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Mrs213
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Record number of EO by Biden
Undoing Trump's damage as quickly and efficiently as possible. I like it!
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| Posted 1/29/21 5:20 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
Posted by Mrs213
Undoing Trump's damage as quickly and efficiently as possible. I like it!
So 70+ million people still voted for trump. Let’s say next election the next president does the same thing....undoes everything Biden has done in his 4 years. You are ok with that?
Or you are just ok with this because you don’t like trumps work?
I don’t like Biden’s work so I guess I’ll be ok if the next president does this ?????
I’m not ok with any president doing this.
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| Posted 1/29/21 8:13 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
Posted by queensgal
It’s amazing what can be accomplished when a president doesn’t spend every day using tax payer money to funnel to his own golf course!
He signed a paper. Amazing accomplishment lol I will be more amazed if he decreases unemployment. Eliminates covid. Etc... those are accomplishments. Stop praising the guy for signing papers. Geez, just as bad as asking him his favorite ice cream flavor and saying he had a great interview lol
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| Posted 1/29/21 8:15 PM |
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KarenK122
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Record number of EO by Biden
I agree. I don't think any President should be writing EOs unless it is a time sensitive dire emergency. It circumvents the whole idea of checks and balances.
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| Posted 1/29/21 8:19 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
The difference is that Biden knows that EOs don't last. He has said numerous times that he needs to get legislation behind these to make them laws. the other guy didn't bother, so he left the door wide open to have them revoked.
Many of his EOs are to get the pandemic under control and vaccines out. If he waits for Congress, it will be months. For any of the EOs that he wants to stay past 2028, he'll get Congress to make them laws.
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| Posted 1/29/21 8:27 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
Posted by GoldenRod
The difference is that Biden knows that EOs don't last. He has said numerous times that he needs to get legislation behind these to make them laws. the other guy didn't bother, so he left the door wide open to have them revoked.
Many of his EOs are to get the pandemic under control and vaccines out. If he waits for Congress, it will be months. For any of the EOs that he wants to stay past 2028, he'll get Congress to make them laws.
To get the pandemic under control? What does climate have to do with the pandemic? Immigration?? Gender identity?? C’mon man!
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| Posted 1/29/21 8:32 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by GoldenRod
The difference is that Biden knows that EOs don't last. He has said numerous times that he needs to get legislation behind these to make them laws. the other guy didn't bother, so he left the door wide open to have them revoked.
Many of his EOs are to get the pandemic under control and vaccines out. If he waits for Congress, it will be months. For any of the EOs that he wants to stay past 2028, he'll get Congress to make them laws.
To get the pandemic under control? What does climate have to do with the pandemic? Immigration?? Gender identity?? C’mon man!
I'm sorry if roughly 20 EOs regarding Covid-19 doesn't mean "Many" to you. I never said All. C'mon man!
I know you are going to hate on Biden no matter how much good he does for the next 8 years, but at least he won't be selling Goya beans from the Oval Office, or committing acts of Sedition.
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| Posted 1/29/21 8:45 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by GoldenRod
The difference is that Biden knows that EOs don't last. He has said numerous times that he needs to get legislation behind these to make them laws. the other guy didn't bother, so he left the door wide open to have them revoked.
Many of his EOs are to get the pandemic under control and vaccines out. If he waits for Congress, it will be months. For any of the EOs that he wants to stay past 2028, he'll get Congress to make them laws.
To get the pandemic under control? What does climate have to do with the pandemic? Immigration?? Gender identity?? C’mon man!
I'm sorry if roughly 20 EOs regarding Covid-19 doesn't mean "Many" to you. I never said All. C'mon man!
I know you are going to hate on Biden no matter how much good he does for the next 8 years, but at least he won't be selling Goya beans from the Oval Office, or committing acts of Sedition.
Isn’t it annoying when people just post some much hatred for the president and they can’t do anything right lol
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| Posted 1/29/21 9:04 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
I'm not a fan of Biden, but I'll hate on him constantly *if and when* he commits Treason, causes a riot, attempts Sedition, gives secrets to the Russians, violates the Hatch Act on several occasions, violates the Emoluments Clause every day, incites violence at every rally he has.
Until then, he has a very low bar to hurdle to be considered a "good" President...
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| Posted 1/29/21 9:13 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Record number of EO by Biden
But will you hate on him if he doesn’t deliver his promises, like this stimulus we’re waiting on? Good thing they are busy with an impeachment. Same BS typical politician stuff. Listen, I didn’t love trump, didn’t love Obama, don’t love Biden. But my god, the obsession with hating someone is concerning. So many are so blinded as to how terrible Biden is bc they are still busy hating on trump
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| Posted 1/29/21 9:40 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
What's concerning is all of the people that, after the President Of The United States caused a riot, and had people storm the Capitol to stop a Democratic process, attempted Sedition, and probably get his VP assassinated, his supporters just say "aww... give him a break... he's not president anymore... can't we get along?...."
When Biden doesn't do what he should be doing, I'll call him out on it. 20 years ago, he would have been a Republican, but the whole country has shifted so far to the right, he seems "moderate". I'm sure he'll do a lot of things I don't like.
However, so far, he hasn't committed any felonies that we know of, and I like most of the things he's done, and is planning on doing. Using EOs to grant equal rights, I'm OK with. Going back into the Paris Accord, I'm OK with.
Biden can't give out the stimulus checks. Only Congress can, so I hope he can get them to actually do their jobs now that McConnell isn't stopping everything.
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| Posted 1/29/21 9:54 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
Posted by GoldenRod
What's concerning is all of the people that, after the President Of The United States caused a riot, and had people storm the Capitol to stop a Democratic process, attempted Sedition, and probably get his VP assassinated, his supporters just say "aww... give him a break... he's not president anymore... can't we get along?...."
When Biden doesn't do what he should be doing, I'll call him out on it. 20 years ago, he would have been a Republican, but the whole country has shifted so far to the right, he seems "moderate". I'm sure he'll do a lot of things I don't like.
However, so far, he hasn't committed any felonies that we know of, and I like most of the things he's done, and is planning on doing. Using EOs to grant equal rights, I'm OK with. Going back into the Paris Accord, I'm OK with.
Biden can't give out the stimulus checks. Only Congress can, so I hope he can get them to actually do their jobs now that McConnell isn't stopping everything.
I’m not one of those “give him a break” people.
The country hasn’t shifted so far to the right!!! The loud boisterous lunatics and media have shifted so far to the left AND right.
Because he hasn’t committed any felonies we’re ok with him now lol and because I agree with his EO’s I’m ok with them now. Do you hear yourself? Just because you agree with what he’s doing your ok with it? What if you didn’t agree with an EO....then it’s wrong?!
I sure hope he can get Congress to do their job. He’s supposed to be a leader, you know the thing this country has apparently been missing for 4 years. So if he’s this leader we’ve been waiting for it should have been done ASAP by Congress instead of worrying about an impeachment. He’s a puppet. He will have no control over anything.
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| Posted 1/29/21 10:03 PM |
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Mrs213
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Mrs213
Undoing Trump's damage as quickly and efficiently as possible. I like it!
So 70+ million people still voted for trump. Let’s say next election the next president does the same thing....undoes everything Biden has done in his 4 years. You are ok with that?
Or you are just ok with this because you don’t like trumps work?
I don’t like Biden’s work so I guess I’ll be ok if the next president does this ?????
I’m not ok with any president doing this.
Sorry. Not entertaining your BS on this one...
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| Posted 1/29/21 10:10 PM |
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Mill188
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
I don't believe EO's should be used to circumvent legislation by ANY president.
Biden is being hypocritical to use them now; as are many Democrats who are saying they're ok with it because they agree with his viewpoints. These are the same people who were up in arms when our last president did it.
And before anyone gets their feathers ruffled, the Republicans were up in arms when Obama did it too. So I'm not singling out any particular party.
I just find it pathetic and sad that people always find it excusable when it's "their" guy doing it.
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| Posted 1/29/21 10:11 PM |
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RainyDay
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Record number of EO by Biden
Clinton did 364 EO, Bush 291, Obama 276, which all served 8 years. Trump had 220 and he was only in office for 4 years. So don't act like Trump was any better
Message edited 1/29/2021 10:18:31 PM.
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| Posted 1/29/21 10:17 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
Posted by RainyDay
Clinton did 364 EO, Bush 291, Obama 276, which all served 8 years. Trump had 220 and he was only in office for 4 years. So don't act like Trump was any better
Not once said he was any better.
Just pointing out how it’s only ok when you agree with the person. The hypocrisy is blinding.
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| Posted 1/29/21 10:22 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
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Undoing Trump's damage as quickly and efficiently as possible. I like it!
So 70+ million people still voted for trump. Let’s say next election the next president does the same thing....undoes everything Biden has done in his 4 years. You are ok with that?
Or you are just ok with this because you don’t like trumps work?
I don’t like Biden’s work so I guess I’ll be ok if the next president does this ?????
I’m not ok with any president doing this.
Sorry. Not entertaining your BS on this one...
Why? You clearly stated you liked it bc he was undoing everything trump did.
What happens if the next president undoes everything Biden does in his first two weeks....not ok?!
Doesn’t make sense right?
And I get there are pandemic things in there, but this poster was clearly celebrating Biden undoing all of trumps work.
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| Posted 1/29/21 10:24 PM |
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Mill188
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
Posted by RainyDay
Clinton did 364 EO, Bush 291, Obama 276, which all served 8 years. Trump had 220 and he was only in office for 4 years. So don't act like Trump was any better
I'm not saying Trump was any better. To tell the whole story:
Clinton did 200 in his first term - 164 in his second;
Bush did 173 in his first term - 118 in his second
Obama 147 in his first and 129 in his second.
The second term EO's are more puzzling to me.....after 4 years in office, they still needed to use EO's to get action on things they couldn't get passed? To me that is the definition of circumventing democracy.
Obviously, I don't believe EO's should be used in most circumstances........
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| Posted 1/29/21 10:24 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Record number of EO by Biden
I never complained about 45 using EOs, I just complained about some of the things he used them for. I'm doing the exact same thing now. All Presidents use EOs, and I understand that. They also all know that if they don't get Congress to make them a law, then they can be "unsigned" as quick as they can be signed.
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| Posted 1/29/21 10:25 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
I'm just over here laughing at anyone trying to justify complaining about a man who has been in office just over a week and who is signing EO's like every other POTUS before him. 
The last 10 days have been so calm and dignified, things feel better already. I'm THRILLED he's taking immediate action on both COVID and reversing many of Trump's toxic policies. The quicker, the better.
GoldenRod....... I agree with all of your comments. 
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| Posted 1/29/21 11:23 PM |
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DancinBarefoot
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
Here is a LINK to a list of all EO's signed by Biden through January 27.
I scrolled through them, read some (not all), and many of them simply outline his policy agenda. There is definitely action is some of them - especially related to Covid - but many are just setting the stage for his policy. For example, he rejoined the Paris Climate accord, but in addition he made climate the center of US foreign policy. So, one EO took affirmative action, and another just outlined policy and created a committee to look at the policy. On Covid, he ordered mask wearing on all federal property, but then issued a 100 day mask up challenge. Again, action on the one hand, policy on the other.
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| Posted 1/30/21 4:42 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Here is a LINK to a list of all EO's signed by Biden through January 27.
I scrolled through them, read some (not all), and many of them simply outline his policy agenda. There is definitely action is some of them - especially related to Covid - but many are just setting the stage for his policy. For example, he rejoined the Paris Climate accord, but in addition he made climate the center of US foreign policy. So, one EO took affirmative action, and another just outlined policy and created a committee to look at the policy. On Covid, he ordered mask wearing on all federal property, but then issued a 100 day mask up challenge. Again, action on the one hand, policy on the other.
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| Posted 1/30/21 3:32 PM |
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JennP
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Re: Record number of EO by Biden
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Here is a LINK to a list of all EO's signed by Biden through January 27.
I scrolled through them, read some (not all), and many of them simply outline his policy agenda. There is definitely action is some of them - especially related to Covid - but many are just setting the stage for his policy. For example, he rejoined the Paris Climate accord, but in addition he made climate the center of US foreign policy. So, one EO took affirmative action, and another just outlined policy and created a committee to look at the policy. On Covid, he ordered mask wearing on all federal property, but then issued a 100 day mask up challenge. Again, action on the one hand, policy on the other.
I agree. And I'll add that Biden's EOs are for measures that are popular with Americans while Trump used it for items that most didn't agree with.
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| Posted 1/30/21 4:59 PM |
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