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Re: Repost from Parenting: Bullying in GC
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You cannot kick kids out of public school--I am an educator--I am involved in bullying day in and day out as well and what the OP said is 100% true. The bullies parents are all "its not my kid" --its hard to get proof, cannot search kids phones, parents claim social media isnt their kid etc. it is terrible, very hard to successfully intervene and stop bullying bc 9 times out of 10 the parents support their kids regardless of if the behavior is wrong or just dont believe it
That is outrageous. I just can't imagine a school calling me to come in to tell me my kid is telling another kid to kill him/herself and just shrugging it off. That's ridiculous. Obviously the school is aware of a serious problem that they are taking the time to make a parent come for a meeting. Do the schools ever take screen shots of the bullying from off the victim's phone as proof? Or can they not do it because it's on Snapchat? I know those disappear.
I am in NYC, the NYC DOE has NO laws allowing us to access students phones as they are private property so while we *can* with student permission it gets very sticky to do so and have a parent not give permission, also snap chat they go away or kids delete. School officials hands are tied in so so many ways so when people place blame on the school it is incredibly frustrating. My advice to parents GO TO THE POLICE! If you have proof show the cops and hope they do something about it
Backpacks are private property and those are searched. That policy is ridiculous. If a student shows the school text messages, etc. that are bullying in nature, the school should be calling the police, suspending the student in question, etc. This hands off policy is absolutely stupid and makes NO sense at all. Sounds like an excuse to me. The school doesn't want to get involved, yet these kids are there for 6 plus hours a day.
You have no idea what you are talking about. A lot of what you said here is NOT correct in NYC. I have worked in a school for 13 years, believe me we get PLENTY involved and we DO go to the police when we have evidence that they will take seriously.
When you have experience working in a NYC public school we can talk. When you have had the NYPD say sorry we cant help tell the parents to come to us if they would like to file a complaint but you do not have enough evidence we can talk. When you see the lawsuits filed by parents for going into their childrens private property we can talk, until then please do not tell me its an excuse and schools do not want to get involved. MOST people who work in schools do so bc they love children, it is incredibly rude and insulting for you to assert that those same people are making excuses and don't care that students are bullied. You sound and are clueless.
I have no experience with bullying on LI thank God but my nephew did get bullied in NYC Public Middle school by some kid posting insensitive post about him on Instagram. My sister went straight to the principal and they were extremely proactive, contacting the kid his parents, etc and telling him if he continued he would be severely disciplined. My sister was very happy with how the whole situation was handled. Thankfully it stopped right away (my sister also told my nephew he had every right to defend himself and if necessary by force then be it).
I really hate hate that our kids are growing up in this world of social media. It's so easy for kids to be hard behind a screen name...it even happens on here with grown ass adults. So so sad.
would love to know which MS in NYC...
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Re: Repost from Parenting: Bullying in GC
In regards to bullying, or any bad situation really,(from the death of a pet, to divorce, to losing a job, etc), I thought this piece was so beautifully written and something that all kids should read in middle school and high school. (and adults too!) It talks about how what you are feeling now you wont' feel forever, things will change, and your life is worth more than whatever is going on in it right this minute.
I thought it was lovely
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Re: Repost from Parenting: Bullying in GC
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by BargainMama
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Posted by FirstMate
Posted by DiamondGirl
You cannot kick kids out of public school--I am an educator--I am involved in bullying day in and day out as well and what the OP said is 100% true. The bullies parents are all "its not my kid" --its hard to get proof, cannot search kids phones, parents claim social media isnt their kid etc. it is terrible, very hard to successfully intervene and stop bullying bc 9 times out of 10 the parents support their kids regardless of if the behavior is wrong or just dont believe it
That is outrageous. I just can't imagine a school calling me to come in to tell me my kid is telling another kid to kill him/herself and just shrugging it off. That's ridiculous. Obviously the school is aware of a serious problem that they are taking the time to make a parent come for a meeting. Do the schools ever take screen shots of the bullying from off the victim's phone as proof? Or can they not do it because it's on Snapchat? I know those disappear.
I am in NYC, the NYC DOE has NO laws allowing us to access students phones as they are private property so while we *can* with student permission it gets very sticky to do so and have a parent not give permission, also snap chat they go away or kids delete. School officials hands are tied in so so many ways so when people place blame on the school it is incredibly frustrating. My advice to parents GO TO THE POLICE! If you have proof show the cops and hope they do something about it
Backpacks are private property and those are searched. That policy is ridiculous. If a student shows the school text messages, etc. that are bullying in nature, the school should be calling the police, suspending the student in question, etc. This hands off policy is absolutely stupid and makes NO sense at all. Sounds like an excuse to me. The school doesn't want to get involved, yet these kids are there for 6 plus hours a day.
You have no idea what you are talking about. A lot of what you said here is NOT correct in NYC. I have worked in a school for 13 years, believe me we get PLENTY involved and we DO go to the police when we have evidence that they will take seriously.
When you have experience working in a NYC public school we can talk. When you have had the NYPD say sorry we cant help tell the parents to come to us if they would like to file a complaint but you do not have enough evidence we can talk. When you see the lawsuits filed by parents for going into their childrens private property we can talk, until then please do not tell me its an excuse and schools do not want to get involved. MOST people who work in schools do so bc they love children, it is incredibly rude and insulting for you to assert that those same people are making excuses and don't care that students are bullied. You sound and are clueless.
I have no experience with bullying on LI thank God but my nephew did get bullied in NYC Public Middle school by some kid posting insensitive post about him on Instagram. My sister went straight to the principal and they were extremely proactive, contacting the kid his parents, etc and telling him if he continued he would be severely disciplined. My sister was very happy with how the whole situation was handled. Thankfully it stopped right away (my sister also told my nephew he had every right to defend himself and if necessary by force then be it).
I really hate hate that our kids are growing up in this world of social media. It's so easy for kids to be hard behind a screen name...it even happens on here with grown ass adults. So so sad.
would love to know which MS in NYC...
Lower Manhattan Community Middle School in FiDi.
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Re: Repost from Parenting: Bullying in GC
We stand with Liam article
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Re: Repost from Parenting: Bullying in GC
This breaks my heart.
I hope they sue the pants off the district. The district absolutely shares some of the blame.
Maybe if they have to pay millions they'll do better next time - and serve as an example to other districts.
As a teacher I watch out for this type of stuff like a hawk.
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Repost from Parenting: Bullying in GC
Interesting article in the Garden City News
http://www.gcnews.com/news/2017-10-27/Letters/Middle_School_administration_failed.html
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