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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
Posted by BFNY516
I noticed that the meetings that are being held to discuss re-opening and the open forums where parents can ask questions are all being held virtually. So out of an abundance of concern and due to what some call current restrictions, all the decision makers can be safe and call in using Zoom, but let’s send the kids back in a matter of weeks.
All of our task force meetings were held in person. We all sat 6 feet apart and wore mask in the hallways and until we were seating.
The "town halls" need to be done virtually because you can not house that many people in an auditorium even with masks on. There is a limit on how many people can be at inside events.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
Posted by BFNY516
I noticed that the meetings that are being held to discuss re-opening and the open forums where parents can ask questions are all being held virtually. So out of an abundance of concern and due to what some call current restrictions, all the decision makers can be safe and call in using Zoom, but let’s send the kids back in a matter of weeks.
Yup. And look at how many politicians' kids are "opting" for virtual school, while their parent pushes "reopening."
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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Posted by BFNY516
I noticed that the meetings that are being held to discuss re-opening and the open forums where parents can ask questions are all being held virtually. So out of an abundance of concern and due to what some call current restrictions, all the decision makers can be safe and call in using Zoom, but let’s send the kids back in a matter of weeks.
All of our task force meetings were held in person. We all sat 6 feet apart and wore mask in the hallways and until we were seating.
The "town halls" need to be done virtually because you can not house that many people in an auditorium even with masks on. There is a limit on how many people can be at inside events.
I wonder if that’s the norm. Our relaunch committees (weekly meetings) have been all virtual.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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All it takes for a school to erupt is one or a few families in denial about a kid having a slight sore throat or sniffle, or just sending the kid anyway and hoping for the best...or ignoring a quarantine order they get after an outside exposure because "she's fine." And all it takes for ny to wind up back in April is a few school eruptions, combined with cold weather, flu season, etc.
I believe on of the protocols is to take temperatures (even go through scanners) before they enter in the schools. That will prevent a lot of this, and also hopefully make the parent second think sending a sick child to school.
So what happens when a child ends up having a temp when they go through this scanner? They sit in the nurses office all day until their parents find the time to pick them up? What happens if the parent can't make it back to the school, you send the sick kid back home on the bus.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
And how many districts can answer questions about what happens to sick kids who can't be immediately picked up? About how lockdown drills will be done? About how many substitute nurses and teachers they have lined up? About what their plan is in case of strikes? About what happens to the education of a kid who is healthy but told to quarantine when they can no longer come to school? About how to regulate/enforce quarantine orders?
The list goes on....
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
Posted by seaside
And how many districts can answer questions about what happens to sick kids who can't be immediately picked up? About how lockdown drills will be done? About how many substitute nurses and teachers they have lined up? About what their plan is in case of strikes? About what happens to the education of a kid who is healthy but told to quarantine when they can no longer come to school? About how to regulate/enforce quarantine orders?
The list goes on....
Wouldn’t they normally do what they do when a child is sick and can’t be picked up....call the emergency contacts? Our district is hiring nurse “assistants”. I’d assume if a kid is out for a week or two the teacher would assign work, just like when my child was out for over a week with the flu. There isn’t going to be answers to everything as this is uncharted territory and you won’t get answers to everything. If you don’t like how your district is handling it than you have the option to homeschool or private school. They are doing the best they can with the resources they have.
Only thing that I do wonder about is drills.
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KarenK122
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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All it takes for a school to erupt is one or a few families in denial about a kid having a slight sore throat or sniffle, or just sending the kid anyway and hoping for the best...or ignoring a quarantine order they get after an outside exposure because "she's fine." And all it takes for ny to wind up back in April is a few school eruptions, combined with cold weather, flu season, etc.
I believe on of the protocols is to take temperatures (even go through scanners) before they enter in the schools. That will prevent a lot of this, and also hopefully make the parent second think sending a sick child to school.
So what happens when a child ends up having a temp when they go through this scanner? They sit in the nurses office all day until their parents find the time to pick them up? What happens if the parent can't make it back to the school, you send the sick kid back home on the bus.
I'm sorry but this is just silly question. If your child is sick then the parent or whoever is on their emergency contact list picks them up. Just like it has been for the last 30 years. If a child is sick they would never send them home on the bus and if a parent has no one to pick them up and they have to sit in the office all day, then shame on them. That is the whole point of an emergency contact list.
Most protocols will have the child take their temperature twice. The first time if it is high they will go to a separate area and they will wait a short period and then take it again. If there is still a fever they go home.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
Posted by seaside
And how many districts can answer questions about what happens to sick kids who can't be immediately picked up? About how lockdown drills will be done? About how many substitute nurses and teachers they have lined up? About what their plan is in case of strikes? About what happens to the education of a kid who is healthy but told to quarantine when they can no longer come to school? About how to regulate/enforce quarantine orders?
The list goes on....
Drills by law still have to take place. They will just be different this year. Fire drills they will still go outside but will need to stay with their classes. Lock down drills will not have them huddled in a corner but the teacher will have to explain and teach the children what to do.
If a whole class is quarantined, they they should be going into their distance learning plan for that class. That is why they are creating the 3 different plans. They can enforce it by not letting the kids back into school until their quarantine is over.
Each school was mandated to have a separate room for children or staff that show signs of Covid. That is where the child will stay until they are picked up. It's like a Sick Room and Well room at the doctors office.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
The drills should be like they always have been, just wearing mask. That's what we are instructed to do when we can't socially distance ourselves from others. Our district requires masks when they are on the bus, walking in halls, and in classroom when they get up out of their seat. They do not need a mask when seated at their desk. So with a drill, I imagine they all put their masks on, and conduct the drill like usual.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
Posted by BargainMama
The drills should be like they always have been, just wearing mask. That's what we are instructed to do when we can't socially distance ourselves from others. Our district requires masks when they are on the bus, walking in halls, and in classroom when they get up out of their seat. They do not need a mask when seated at their desk. So with a drill, I imagine they all put their masks on, and conduct the drill like usual.
Exactly. Put the mask on and do the drill.
Just like stop and shop today with a ton of people shopping. I put my mask on and did what I needed to do.
If you want it to be impossible it will be.
Keep your kids home then and leave more room for the ones who want and need to be there
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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The drills should be like they always have been, just wearing mask. That's what we are instructed to do when we can't socially distance ourselves from others. Our district requires masks when they are on the bus, walking in halls, and in classroom when they get up out of their seat. They do not need a mask when seated at their desk. So with a drill, I imagine they all put their masks on, and conduct the drill like usual.
Have you seen lock down drills in person?
All students and staff are literally on top of each other in the one corner of the room that is not visible from the door for well over 10 minutes waiting for an admin or PO to open the door. Even with masks on, this makes me very uncomfortable.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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Posted by BargainMama
The drills should be like they always have been, just wearing mask. That's what we are instructed to do when we can't socially distance ourselves from others. Our district requires masks when they are on the bus, walking in halls, and in classroom when they get up out of their seat. They do not need a mask when seated at their desk. So with a drill, I imagine they all put their masks on, and conduct the drill like usual.
Have you seen lock down drills in person?
All students and staff are literally on top of each other in the one corner of the room that is not visible from the door for well over 10 minutes waiting for an admin or PO to open the door. Even with masks on, this makes me very uncomfortable.
Okay but that's no reason to not hold school. Keep your kids home?
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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The drills should be like they always have been, just wearing mask. That's what we are instructed to do when we can't socially distance ourselves from others. Our district requires masks when they are on the bus, walking in halls, and in classroom when they get up out of their seat. They do not need a mask when seated at their desk. So with a drill, I imagine they all put their masks on, and conduct the drill like usual.
Have you seen lock down drills in person?
All students and staff are literally on top of each other in the one corner of the room that is not visible from the door for well over 10 minutes waiting for an admin or PO to open the door. Even with masks on, this makes me very uncomfortable.
They should know how to do them safely, ie with masks and where to sit/stand. Teach the kids to quickly grab their masks, figure out the safest way to be close to each other. School violence doesn’t take a break because of a pandemic.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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The drills should be like they always have been, just wearing mask. That's what we are instructed to do when we can't socially distance ourselves from others. Our district requires masks when they are on the bus, walking in halls, and in classroom when they get up out of their seat. They do not need a mask when seated at their desk. So with a drill, I imagine they all put their masks on, and conduct the drill like usual.
Have you seen lock down drills in person?
All students and staff are literally on top of each other in the one corner of the room that is not visible from the door for well over 10 minutes waiting for an admin or PO to open the door. Even with masks on, this makes me very uncomfortable.
Okay but that's no reason to not hold school. Keep your kids home?
I’m sending my son to school. I am a teacher and my DH is essential so unless I quit my job he’s going.
I am just saying there are a lot of logistical things that I think are being overlooked.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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The drills should be like they always have been, just wearing mask. That's what we are instructed to do when we can't socially distance ourselves from others. Our district requires masks when they are on the bus, walking in halls, and in classroom when they get up out of their seat. They do not need a mask when seated at their desk. So with a drill, I imagine they all put their masks on, and conduct the drill like usual.
Have you seen lock down drills in person?
All students and staff are literally on top of each other in the one corner of the room that is not visible from the door for well over 10 minutes waiting for an admin or PO to open the door. Even with masks on, this makes me very uncomfortable.
They should know how to do them safely, ie with masks and where to sit/stand. Teach the kids to quickly grab their masks, figure out the safest way to be close to each other. School violence doesn’t take a break because of a pandemic.
I understand what you are saying, I was just wondering if people who make everything seem so “easy” have seen these drills taking place in real life. In my classroom, there is literally only a tiny sliver where people cannot be seen. We are not allowed to block the door window so our only option is to be right on top of each other. I teach HS so these are not tiny kids. I am hoping we are at half capacity so it’ll make it a littler better.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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And how many districts can answer questions about what happens to sick kids who can't be immediately picked up? About how lockdown drills will be done? About how many substitute nurses and teachers they have lined up? About what their plan is in case of strikes? About what happens to the education of a kid who is healthy but told to quarantine when they can no longer come to school? About how to regulate/enforce quarantine orders?
The list goes on....
Wouldn’t they normally do what they do when a child is sick and can’t be picked up....call the emergency contacts? Our district is hiring nurse “assistants”. I’d assume if a kid is out for a week or two the teacher would assign work, just like when my child was out for over a week with the flu. There isn’t going to be answers to everything as this is uncharted territory and you won’t get answers to everything. If you don’t like how your district is handling it than you have the option to homeschool or private school. They are doing the best they can with the resources they have.
Only thing that I do wonder about is drills.
We are able to get fully virtual school from our school for as long as we feel unsafe, so no complaints--just thanks. I still question openings from a policy perspective, though, and wonder if the lack of answers will translate into harm to other kids and families. I am still not convinced that all schools will reopen.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
Posted by seaside
And how many districts can answer questions about what happens to sick kids who can't be immediately picked up? About how lockdown drills will be done? About how many substitute nurses and teachers they have lined up? About what their plan is in case of strikes? About what happens to the education of a kid who is healthy but told to quarantine when they can no longer come to school? About how to regulate/enforce quarantine orders?
The list goes on....
Subs are going to be a REAL issue. My district never has enough subs to begin with. Our subs are usually retired teachers so I doubt they will be subbing this year. Other teachers always need to cover classes during their prep. What happens when the teacher needs to quarantine due to possible exposure for 14 days? Who wants to sub for someone who might have Covid? No one.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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And how many districts can answer questions about what happens to sick kids who can't be immediately picked up? About how lockdown drills will be done? About how many substitute nurses and teachers they have lined up? About what their plan is in case of strikes? About what happens to the education of a kid who is healthy but told to quarantine when they can no longer come to school? About how to regulate/enforce quarantine orders?
The list goes on....
Subs are going to be a REAL issue. My district never has enough subs to begin with. Our subs are usually retired teachers so I doubt they will be subbing this year. Other teachers always need to cover classes during their prep. What happens when the teacher needs to quarantine due to possible exposure for 14 days? Who wants to sub for someone who might have Covid? No one.
In the instance there are no subs or teachers to cover, then go virtual for a few days. My God, I think there is a solution to all the problems posed, but only if you want them. It seems like if some want to find a reason to not send or teach, there is one. There are so many more reasons to reopen for the sake of our children's welfare, health and educations. If you are so worried, then do not send your child or take a sabbatical.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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Posted by seaside
And how many districts can answer questions about what happens to sick kids who can't be immediately picked up? About how lockdown drills will be done? About how many substitute nurses and teachers they have lined up? About what their plan is in case of strikes? About what happens to the education of a kid who is healthy but told to quarantine when they can no longer come to school? About how to regulate/enforce quarantine orders?
The list goes on....
Subs are going to be a REAL issue. My district never has enough subs to begin with. Our subs are usually retired teachers so I doubt they will be subbing this year. Other teachers always need to cover classes during their prep. What happens when the teacher needs to quarantine due to possible exposure for 14 days? Who wants to sub for someone who might have Covid? No one.
I thought the whole point of cohorts was that if someone in the class shows symptoms, or tests positive, the entire group is home for 14 days. Eliminates the need for subs. So, if a teacher is sick, all of the students in that class stay home for two weeks.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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And how many districts can answer questions about what happens to sick kids who can't be immediately picked up? About how lockdown drills will be done? About how many substitute nurses and teachers they have lined up? About what their plan is in case of strikes? About what happens to the education of a kid who is healthy but told to quarantine when they can no longer come to school? About how to regulate/enforce quarantine orders?
The list goes on....
Subs are going to be a REAL issue. My district never has enough subs to begin with. Our subs are usually retired teachers so I doubt they will be subbing this year. Other teachers always need to cover classes during their prep. What happens when the teacher needs to quarantine due to possible exposure for 14 days? Who wants to sub for someone who might have Covid? No one.
In the instance there are no subs or teachers to cover, then go virtual for a few days. My God, I think there is a solution to all the problems posed, but only if you want them. It seems like if some want to find a reason to not send or teach, there is one. There are so many more reasons to reopen for the sake of our children's welfare, health and educations. If you are so worried, then do not send your child or take a sabbatical.
Asking questions about how a school will handle certain situations is part of being a responsible parent. Just because you might not give a shit what goes on in your child's school doesn't mean she shouldn't ask questions.
We get it, you want to send your kid to school, so send your kid to school. No one is stopping you. She has valid questions and concerns just like many other parents out there.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
Thanks, Rainyday.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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There will definitely be young kids home alone this year (or with slightly older siblings watching them). Not everyone can afford childcare, afterschool programs, or tutors. Many may rely on older grandparents. Scary times.
True but how any kids were home alone in the 70’s and 80’s as young as kindergarten and no one questioned that? I get that they will have to do school work so it will be different though.
I don’t think it’s realistic to expect the majority of kids to be able to sit home and be disciplined enough to log on and remote learn. It’s not ok, just because it was done in the 70s & 80s. There was a lot more drugs use during that era as well.
No I don’t think it is realistic either.
I would have to say there is a lot of drug use now, especially adding in vaping with younger kids. So many teens are drinking and doing drugs now. Not sure if the comparison from the 70’s and 80’s but don’t think it is any less if not more.
You compared kids being home in the 70 and 80s as a reason why kids should be ok to be home alone today. But we also can’t deny the fact that these decades were the free loving, drug induced decades. So yea kids were home alone but it was also on the back of the 50-60s when everyone trusted everyone plus they were high as a fukn kite. Studio 54, LSD, Coke, everyone was freaking high lol.
I’m being realistic, now people use drugs but you can’t compare it to the drug use back then. I’m not coddlIng my kid because I refuse to let him live life like I did. I’m trying to teach him to not repeat the cycle and be a statistic. Closing schools or making these hybrid models is making it impossible for a lot of people.
Eta: I’m not talking about Vaping, which, is recent. I’m referring to mostly young adult+ sniffing coke or LSD. Hence why kids were running amuck until people realized the white kids were getting kidnapped and killed. We can thank John Walsh for the transparency.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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Just because you might not give a shit what goes on in your child's school doesn't mean she shouldn't ask questions.
Classy comment. In fact, I give a shit, but I'm concerned about parents that are so nit picky about every possible scenario will foil any attempt to reopen for the rest of us. There is a solution to every problem.
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Re: School district plans....education inequality?
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Just because you might not give a shit what goes on in your child's school doesn't mean she shouldn't ask questions.
Classy comment. In fact, I give a shit, but I'm concerned about parents that are so nit picky about every possible scenario will foil any attempt to reopen for the rest of us. There is a solution to every problem.
Getting subs is not a nit picky issue. It’s a real issue - I work at a school that during a good year is unable to get subs.
And like I said, my son and I are both going back to school. I actually think we can go back as cases are low in my county, but there are many unanswered questions. Questions that my district and my son’s district need to answer. I have been asking these questions of both administrations because they are important questions. It’s great that they’re planning three models, but other Important details are not being discussed.
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