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blu6385
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Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Are we really going to spend $10B on a wall to prevent illegal immigration and is it really going to even help?!!
Does anyone really think Mexico is going to pay us back?!
I don't know I think we can spend $10B on something that might actually help US Citizen but maybe I am crazy
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mnmsoinlove
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Its not going to happen. No way are Republicans going to spend 10 billion to do it. This is just for show. It won't keep people out. They will climb it or dig under it. Mexico will never pay for this its absurd to think they would.
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| Posted 1/25/17 2:27 PM |
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Jenhos
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Posted by mnmsoinlove
Its not going to happen. No way are Republicans going to spend 10 billion to do it. This is just for show. It won't keep people out. They will climb it or dig under it. Mexico will never pay for this its absurd to think they would.
Here is where I agree. The wall isn't the answer and you are right the Republicans and the Democrats won't allow the money to be spent. Checks and balances. I will say that I think the states that are along the boarder should have a say in what they want to see done for the boarders in their states. Ifor I lived in one if those states I may be in favor of a wall.
What I am for is having stricter regulations on immigration and until we get a handle on it I. Am ok with closing boarders and I am not a fan of sanctuary cities. I hope he can get off the wall idea and work on fixing the immigration issues we have. Sorry, if you are here illegally you should be asked to leave and apply through the proper channels to be a citizen. My grandparents waited a long time and did everything by the book to be here.
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| Posted 1/25/17 2:43 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
I love how he's so quick to spend tax dollars.................tax dollars that the little $hit doesn't even contribute to. I hope everyone in Washington puts a stop to this "build a wall madness".
Someone throw this man a Lego set.............he can build away and it'll cost a lot less than $10 billion!!
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| Posted 1/25/17 2:44 PM |
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JennZ
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
the wall will never get built. he is talking out of his ass. the Mexican govt has said numerous times they will NOT pay for it. hes delusional.
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| Posted 1/25/17 2:47 PM |
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Posted by JennZ
the wall will never get built. he is talking out of his ass. the Mexican govt has said numerous times they will NOT pay for it. hes delusional.
Yep. Going to take way more than an executive order.
We do need immigration reform, but a wall is not the answer. Desperate people will always find a way in. And Mexico is not going to pay for it.
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| Posted 1/25/17 2:49 PM |
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Posted by Jenhos
Posted by mnmsoinlove
Its not going to happen. No way are Republicans going to spend 10 billion to do it. This is just for show. It won't keep people out. They will climb it or dig under it. Mexico will never pay for this its absurd to think they would.
Here is where I agree. The wall isn't the answer and you are right the Republicans and the Democrats won't allow the money to be spent. Checks and balances. I will say that I think the states that are along the boarder should have a say in what they want to see done for the boarders in their states. Ifor I lived in one if those states I may be in favor of a wall.
What I am for is having stricter regulations on immigration and until we get a handle on it I. Am ok with closing boarders and I am not a fan of sanctuary cities. I hope he can get off the wall idea and work on fixing the immigration issues we have. Sorry, if you are here illegally you should be asked to leave and apply through the proper channels to be a citizen. My grandparents waited a long time and did everything by the book to be here.
I tend to agree with this.
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| Posted 1/25/17 2:51 PM |
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eroxgirl
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Posted by Hofstra26
I love how he's so quick to spend tax dollars.................tax dollars that the little $hit doesn't even contribute to. I hope everyone in Washington puts a stop to this "build a wall madness".
Someone throw this man a Lego set.............he can build away and it'll cost a lot less than $10 billion!!
DUDE... legos are very expensive.
Sorry, I just couldn't help myself. 
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| Posted 1/25/17 2:52 PM |
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
ugh hes a billionaire, so is his daughter and son in law. if they want the wall so damn bad, buy it themselves or front the money until "Mexico pays" dont take it out of my pocket or from the pockets of people who don't respect him or that decision at all...
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| Posted 1/25/17 2:57 PM |
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Pumpkin1
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Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Perhaps those border states should pay for it. I mean, it affects their resources much more than, say, a northern state like Maine.
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| Posted 1/25/17 3:00 PM |
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mnmsoinlove
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
He just said a nation without borders is not a nation at all. Guess we better build a wall with Canada too. We want to be considered a Nation don't we? Holy shit
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| Posted 1/25/17 3:04 PM |
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teachermom
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
IF this wall is built, Mexico will NEVER pay for it and frankly, they shouldn't have to. We can't enforce something like that on another country. Trump is pushing this through now because he likes beating his chest and he knows his supporters will eat it up.
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| Posted 1/25/17 3:41 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Posted by teachermom
IF this wall is built, Mexico will NEVER pay for it and frankly, they shouldn't have to. We can't enforce something like that on another country. Trump is pushing this through now because he likes beating his chest and he knows his supporters will eat it up.
And then he'll throw Congress under the bus when they shoot it down. That way, he is the "hero" for trying to build a wall, but "they" stopped him. If it isn't Congress that stops it, it will be protesters, or the various laws that prevent massive projects from happening without environmental impact studies, or the ranchers who don't want the gov't using Eminent Domain to take their property, or contractors saying they can't build a wall across a river, or dozens of other reasons why it won't be built.
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| Posted 1/25/17 3:50 PM |
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Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
I thought this was an interesting article about why the wall doesn't address the actual immigration issues that our nation is currently facing.
http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/01/trumps-border-wall-attacks-the-wrong-immigration-crisis-000286
Basically, Mexican immigration isn't a big issue anymore, because it's been addressed over the past 20+ years, and the wall may just alienate Mexico who actually gives us assistance in lowering the amount of immigrants from Central America. The real issue that needs to be addressed is the immigration system and the long delays in processing asylum seekers.
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| Posted 1/25/17 3:57 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Posted by eroxgirl
Posted by Hofstra26
I love how he's so quick to spend tax dollars.................tax dollars that the little $hit doesn't even contribute to. I hope everyone in Washington puts a stop to this "build a wall madness".
Someone throw this man a Lego set.............he can build away and it'll cost a lot less than $10 billion!!
DUDE... legos are very expensive.
Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.
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Otherme
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by teachermom
IF this wall is built, Mexico will NEVER pay for it and frankly, they shouldn't have to. We can't enforce something like that on another country. Trump is pushing this through now because he likes beating his chest and he knows his supporters will eat it up.
And then he'll throw Congress under the bus when they shoot it down. That way, he is the "hero" for trying to build a wall, but "they" stopped him. If it isn't Congress that stops it, it will be protesters, or the various laws that prevent massive projects from happening without environmental impact studies, or the ranchers who don't want the gov't using Eminent Domain to take their property, or contractors saying they can't build a wall across a river, or dozens of other reasons why it won't be built.
BINGO
that way he can still spew his hate, look like he's following through on a promise that he could never keep.. and it won't be his 'fault' when it doesn't happen
so transparent
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| Posted 1/25/17 4:21 PM |
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blu6385
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
I just read an article that paul ryan said congress will pay for it.
WTF is wrong with everyone does everyone (trump supporters included) really think that a wall is going to do anything!!!
I will say it if anyone actually believes a wall will stop anything you are a fing idiot!!
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| Posted 1/26/17 11:06 AM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Posted by blu6385
Are we really going to spend $10B on a wall to prevent illegal immigration and is it really going to even help?!!
Does anyone really think Mexico is going to pay us back?!
I don't know I think we can spend $10B on something that might actually help US Citizen but maybe I am crazy
And I've read other reports where they estimate it will cost at least $15B, and that's not even counting the labor!
And we all know how close to budget massive government projects are...
If this was actually attempted, it would probably cost closer to $25B
http://fortune.com/2017/01/25/donald-trump-mexico-wall-cost/
Add in labor and land acquisition, and the cost of the wall could reach $25 billion, according to Bernstein. And depending on its height, costs for concrete and cement could reach $1 billion and $330 million, respectively. Flooding and rough terrain could also raise the price tag.
According to U.S. Government Accountability Office data cited by Bernstein, building the "easiest" sections of the existing 653 miles of fencing ran between $2.8 million and $3.9 million per mile as part of the $7 billion that's been spent since 2001.
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| Posted 1/26/17 11:12 AM |
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Basically, Mexican immigration isn't a big issue anymore, because it's been addressed over the past 20+ years, and the wall may just alienate Mexico who actually gives us assistance in lowering the amount of immigrants from Central America. The real issue that needs to be addressed is the immigration system and the long delays in processing asylum seekers.
Good points- and I have been surprised not to see more analysis of the current undocumented people in the US, and where they came from. There are a lot of immigrants in my area (not going to speculate on status because I have no idea) but they are mainly from Guatemala. So yeah, they are probably going through Mexico, but then to be fair shouldn't those Central American countries kick in too?  But that would require more critical thought than Trump is capable of.
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DancinBarefoot
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Here is the other thing nobody is talking about in relation to that wall.
ANIMALS
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| Posted 1/26/17 12:10 PM |
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klingklang77
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Here is the other thing nobody is talking about in relation to that wall.
ANIMALS
Good point!
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klingklang77
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Wrong thread. Sorry
Message edited 1/26/2017 12:43:38 PM.
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TheDivineMrsM
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Posted by Jenhos
Here is where I agree. The wall isn't the answer and you are right the Republicans and the Democrats won't allow the money to be spent. Checks and balances.
They might go along with it. Today most politicians prioritize reelection and minimizing political fallout. Checks and balances isn't an option when a single party holds all three branches of government and eventually the SCOTUS.
Message edited 1/26/2017 1:47:36 PM.
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blu6385
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
Posted by Jenhos
Here is where I agree. The wall isn't the answer and you are right the Republicans and the Democrats won't allow the money to be spent. Checks and balances.
They might go along with it. Today most politicians prioritize reelection and minimizing political fallout. Checks and balances isn't an option when a single party holds all three branches of government and eventually the SCOTUS.
so fing sad. I really hope during the next election people actually go out and vote and clean house with congress!
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bookworm
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Re: Sorry but 10 billion dollars for an F&@# wall!!
I just saw video of Ryan and McConnell saying they plan to allocate the funding for the wall. What f*cking century do I live in that we're using man's oldest invention to tamp down on border security? Bridges are crumbling. Airports are ancient. We're building a wall and Mexico will pay through tariffs. Translation: I will pay $7 for an avocado and THAT will finance the wall  
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