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Nic3
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Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
I am really stressing out about this. I have had negative birth experiences at NSUH and Mercy - both very controlled, where I was confined with EFM, IV, and unable to get out of the bed or even sit up in bed. Needless to say, my births were very long, and very uncomfortable. I was also separated from my babies for long periods of time whilst I was in recovery.
I had thought my doctor was a little more progressive, and I thought times had changed with the knowledge that mobility and freedom of movement during labor makes for an easier, and healthier, birth.
Nope. My doctor told me I will be in the bed, with the EFM and IV as soon as I am admitted! I am devastated! He also told me no birth plan - but to call Winthrop and ask questions! Because we have been through this, we have a few requests: mainly, freedom to move during labor, and the desire for the baby to stay with us, and not be immunized in the hospital.
I do not think I am being too picky. I have a month to go, and now I am sooo anxious about my labor and delivery.
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
I delivered at Winthrop with DR. Hanauer and I was 4-5 cm and was walking around. The only reason I had an IV was because I asked for the epidural around 5-6cm and only had it in for 1 hr before I delivered. I didn't feel confined at all.
I brought the "birth ball" to sit on but didn't have enough time to blow it up. I hope I have the same experience the next time around.
I suggest laboring at home for as long as possible. That is what I did.
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| Posted 7/15/08 4:08 AM |
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headoverheels
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
different hospitals have different policies - i don't know the details about winthrop, but i have heard they are more restrictive than other hospital (like south nassau, where i am delivering).
i agree with the PP - i would labor at home as long as possible.
another thought - does your dr. only deliver at winthrop? can you discuss delivering somewhere else (if it is, in fact, the hospital policy that would restrict you moving around)?
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
Honestly you have two options -- labor at home as long as possible and hope for the best or switch health care providers. My OB told me the same thing (he delivered at North Shore) -- as soon as I was admitted I would be stuck in a bed with EFM and an IV. I knew that was bad news.
I switched to Stony Brook Midwives and it was the best decision ever. They supported everything in my birth plan and I had a wonderful delivery.
I would look around for another doctor or Midwife.
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
I had a birth plan with Winthrop and it was followed as much as possible. I had very explicit instructions and may were not the hospital's normal routine. I had an IV but I was on a stick so I was mobile. I even got to hold DC right after my c-section & DC & DH stayed with me in recovery for a long time before they brought me & the baby up to maternity. I also go to Drs Hanauer and Dolisi.
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| Posted 7/15/08 8:58 AM |
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Nic3
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
I am also a Dolisi/Hanauer patient, which is why I was so surprised about the reaction to a very simple birth plan! I was told that Winthrop really does not like birth plans, that anything in writing will really p*ss them off.
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
I'm sorry, but to read that really p*sses ME off....who is anyone to tell you how to experience the birth of your child??????
Especially since you are a BTDT mom who has had less than pleasant experiences in the past.
Sorry, just had to say that...
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asecretposter
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
Posted by Nic3
I am also a Dolisi/Hanauer patient, which is why I was so surprised about the reaction to a very simple birth plan! I was told that Winthrop really does not like birth plans, that anything in writing will really p*ss them off.
They gave me the paperwork. Maybe it changed? Talk to the Dr directly. I know that Winthrop is very busy, especially with Dr H & D patients, but talk to them directly and let them know your concerns.
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
Posted by Dragonfly75
Honestly you have two options -- labor at home as long as possible and hope for the best or switch health care providers. My OB told me the same thing (he delivered at North Shore) -- as soon as I was admitted I would be stuck in a bed with EFM and an IV. I knew that was bad news.
I switched to Stony Brook Midwives and it was the best decision ever. They supported everything in my birth plan and I had a wonderful delivery.
I would look around for another doctor or Midwife.
ITA!
Honestly, if you want a natural birth your best bet is a midwife and I'm sure you could find one even at 36 weeks.
But if you don't want to switch at this point, just be firm with your decisons. You don't HAVE to do anything. You could tell him that you want intermittent monitoring and a heplock rather than an iv. If its the hospital's policy I would give birth somewhere else.
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
i am so sorry to hear!!
I agree with the others, either labor at home or find a new dr.
its never too late to find a new doctor.
Not sure if Midwives are your cup of tea but i've heard fantastic things about them! they follow your birth plan and they work with you, not against you.
they will even sit there and message you! its all about you!
I know, if i were in your shoes, i would find someone else. labor and delivery can be very scary, i need to know that i have a team of people that will work with me to make me as comfortable as possible!
good luck!!
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Nic3
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
Thank you all so much, ladies, for your advice and input.
We have been thinking a lot about what to do. I just cannot fathom going into LD with fear and the mindset that we will have to 'fight' the whole time to avoid these few things which we know are not good. I know anxiety and tension only make things worse!!!
I am really annoyed with Winthrop's misrepresentation of themselves - the whole 'New Life Center.' If you read their website, and their literature, it states repeatedly how family-centered their facility is. If patients are routinely forced to stay in the beds, why then, are the LDR rooms equipped with showers and/or baths??? Just one of my many questions, really. I really thought we women had come far from the days of being forced to labor on our backs in a bed, which the ACOG even acknowledges is counteproductive, harmful, and more often leads to CS and prolonged labor.
Ah well. Enough ranting. More research into LI hospitals, midwives, etc etc etc.
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
The best advice I can give you is if you are uncomfortable with the situation, I would go to another hospital. I know it would probably stink to be delivered by someone you don't know but you have to see the pros and cons. If you already know you're going to have a miserable experience I would not go through it again. But then again I am VERY stubborn and I basically do what I want, so to me being tied down would be a defineltly no no. But of course some people will think I'm crazy for even thinking of the possibility of going somewhere else. Either way good luck I hope it will be better this time around!!!
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
Posted by Nic3
Thank you all so much, ladies, for your advice and input.
We have been thinking a lot about what to do. I just cannot fathom going into LD with fear and the mindset that we will have to 'fight' the whole time to avoid these few things which we know are not good. I know anxiety and tension only make things worse!!!
I am really annoyed with Winthrop's misrepresentation of themselves - the whole 'New Life Center.' If you read their website, and their literature, it states repeatedly how family-centered their facility is. If patients are routinely forced to stay in the beds, why then, are the LDR rooms equipped with showers and/or baths??? Just one of my many questions, really. I really thought we women had come far from the days of being forced to labor on our backs in a bed, which the ACOG even acknowledges is counteproductive, harmful, and more often leads to CS and prolonged labor.
Ah well. Enough ranting. More research into LI hospitals, midwives, etc etc etc.
this is an annoying situation. you're not asking for something extreme. After reading the other posts from Moms who delivered at the same hospital and had better experiences, I have to admit that there is a part of me that suspects it's not the hospital as much as your OB who is resistant to you submitting a birthing plan.... but he doesn't wants to put the blame on the hospital.
Before going any farther, I personally would contact the hospital and ask questions about submitting your simple birthing plan and hear their response. If they think it's no big deal, I would report that to your OB. Either way, there are larger decisions to make (changing OB's or hospitals).......
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
Posted by Nic3
Thank you all so much, ladies, for your advice and input.
We have been thinking a lot about what to do. I just cannot fathom going into LD with fear and the mindset that we will have to 'fight' the whole time to avoid these few things which we know are not good. I know anxiety and tension only make things worse!!!
I am really annoyed with Winthrop's misrepresentation of themselves - the whole 'New Life Center.' If you read their website, and their literature, it states repeatedly how family-centered their facility is. If patients are routinely forced to stay in the beds, why then, are the LDR rooms equipped with showers and/or baths??? Just one of my many questions, really. I really thought we women had come far from the days of being forced to labor on our backs in a bed, which the ACOG even acknowledges is counteproductive, harmful, and more often leads to CS and prolonged labor.
Ah well. Enough ranting. More research into LI hospitals, midwives, etc etc etc.
I agree. I was stunned when I realized how backward the policies of the Long Island hospitals were. I think Winthrop used to be one of the more progressive hospitals, but, it seems they've taken a turn backward.
Stony Brook (with the midwives) worked really well for me. I was able to have all the simple things you are requesting. I don't know if it's too far for you, but you might look into it.
Good luck.
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
Posted by Summersalwaysinseason
I'm sorry, but to read that really p*sses ME off....who is anyone to tell you how to experience the birth of your child??????
Especially since you are a BTDT mom who has had less than pleasant experiences in the past.
Sorry, just had to say that...
I agree! I would put your foot down. Your baby, your body, your birth. Laying in bed, on your back giving birth is the most unnatural position to give birth in. You have to right to be comfortable and not anxious about your birth. 
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Re: Stressing re: delivery... Anyone doing a birth plan? (long..)
Posted by Nic3
Thank you all so much, ladies, for your advice and input.
We have been thinking a lot about what to do. I just cannot fathom going into LD with fear and the mindset that we will have to 'fight' the whole time to avoid these few things which we know are not good. I know anxiety and tension only make things worse!!!
I am really annoyed with Winthrop's misrepresentation of themselves - the whole 'New Life Center.' If you read their website, and their literature, it states repeatedly how family-centered their facility is. If patients are routinely forced to stay in the beds, why then, are the LDR rooms equipped with showers and/or baths??? Just one of my many questions, really. I really thought we women had come far from the days of being forced to labor on our backs in a bed, which the ACOG even acknowledges is counteproductive, harmful, and more often leads to CS and prolonged labor.
Ah well. Enough ranting. More research into LI hospitals, midwives, etc etc etc.
Unfortunately this is how the majority, not all of the medical community feel regarding women and labor. It is VERY VERY RARE to find an OB that will deliver a baby in any other position other than the lithomy position, laying on your back, which is actually more painful and difficult to deliver because you are working against gravity.
But, for those women who choose to have an epidural, the must deliver in thei position because most of the time they don't have full use of their legs because of teh epidural.
With epidural and medicated births becoming more and more comon and the increasing rates of ceserean sections OB become more and more rigid and medicalized.
For the few women out there that want to labor naturally, no IVs, not continuous fetal monitoring, eat and drink and deliver in whatever position is comfortable for her the options become more and more limited.
I've worked in L&D in a large hospital on LI. I've seen how RNs and MDs push medications, epidurals and pitocin on laboring women to "get things moving faster" because of time schedules and change of shifts. It IS SCARY!!!!
I would highly recomend you research a midwife. The main difference between a midwife and OB is their theory of practice. Midwives believe that healthy women, with healthy pregnancies should be able to have a healthy low risk birth with little to no medical intervention. Any good midwife will tell you that they don't "deliver" babies, but "catch" them, women "deliver" their babies. The theory is that womens bodies know what to do and are very well equipped.
I'll bump the midwofe thread later for you with a bunch of books for you to look into about midwifery and natural child brith!
Good Luck!
I feel that every woman should have the birth experience that is right for THEM!!
Whether it is with an OB, or midwife, medicated or non.
It is about having choices and control over our own bodies!!!
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