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heathergirl
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This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
I have a neighbor who served 3 combat tours in Iraq. While shoveling together yesterday, we started talking about politics. He told me he knows, as fact, that the US military has had Osama Bin Laden in sights several times, locked and ready to take him out, but were called off "higher forces." He said it is impossible for the government not to know where he is and how to take him out.
I didn't really know what to make of it and we moved on to other subjects, but it still made me curious. Do you think its possible that they did this? That they know where he is and had the opportunity to take him out, but they didn't? I mean, ANYTHING is possible, but I don't know if I want to believe the government would do that. I guess nothing could surprise me, especially when it comes to the government.
Granted, this could be TOTAL speculation or BS, but it was still food for thougt.
ETA: His "source" is a retired Special Ops vet. Obviously, this could be total BS as I said, but it still made me think.
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mrsBLT
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
i believe it.
i have many thoughts on politics and the war but i'm just going to leave it at, i believe it.
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CrankyPants
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
I don't know how he could "know as a fact" unless he was the one with the gun pointed at him.
That's just my opinion, I'm not one to buy into government conspiracy theories. When the gov't says they want to get em, I believe them.
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leighdvm
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
I wouldn't be shocked....there are many things the government doesn't want us to know, for whatever reason.....
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Blu-ize
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
My thought on this is that they don't want to take him out. There is something to gain by having him go about his business..intelligence wise.
My feeling is we know exactly where he is and what he is doing and we are doing intelligence gathering.
I also think when the time is right we will take him out along with the main operatives who control his world.
It may take a while.
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AngnShaun
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
Posted by CrankyPants
I don't know how he could "know as a fact" unless he was the one with the gun pointed at him.
That's just my opinion, I'm not one to buy into government conspiracy theories. When the gov't says they want to get em, I believe them.
thats exactly what i was thinking too... not to say hes not telling the truth... its just hard to believe he was that guy with the gun, and hes just telling people that we let bin laden go... i just dont see how he would be allowed to just give that info out..
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Jonsgirl04
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
I guess we will never really know?? Its a crazy story but Its not something that would totally shock me.
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
On the one hand, I wouldn't be surprised, on the other hand, I can't imagine why Bush or Obama (assuming they knew) would NOT attempt to catch him. It would be/have been a huge burst in approval points for either one.
Also, was this on WikiLeaks? It seems like EVERYTHING we weren't supposed to know made its way there, and this would have been quite a coup, you know?
So I guess I am leaning slightly in the direction of it being untrue/inaccurate.
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MissRadiant
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
I wouldn't take it as FACT, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. We only "know" what the government wants us to know.
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Jonsgirl04
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
Posted by AngnShaun
Posted by CrankyPants
I don't know how he could "know as a fact" unless he was the one with the gun pointed at him.
That's just my opinion, I'm not one to buy into government conspiracy theories. When the gov't says they want to get em, I believe them.
thats exactly what i was thinking too... not to say hes not telling the truth... its just hard to believe he was that guy with the gun, and hes just telling people that we let bin laden go... i just dont see how he would be allowed to just give that info out..
Well if its true.. I am sure hes not supposed to be speaking about it and would be in big trouble..Let us know if he goes missing in a day or two. Then I would be suspicious!
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StaceyWill
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
Posted by leighdvm
I wouldn't be shocked....there are many things the government doesn't want us to know, for whatever reason.....
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
Honestly I don't buy it. At this point we have been after him for a VERY long time and in my eyes looks bad that we can't catch him.
Yes, it could be good for intelligence gathering but even if we get him the next in line would step up.
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
I would not be suprised if this is true. In many ways, it may make things even worse for us if US forces killed him, but that's JMO.
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Ophelia
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
if he was "informed" enough to know this for a fact, he'd also be "informed" enough to know why and "intelligent" enough not to tell his neighbor.
not to knock your friend or his service to our country...but my brother did 2 tours, my bff was JAG for a year there, and I know countless others that are either currently serving or have served that are privy to NO INFO whatsoever.
I also know people with Top Secret clearnance who aren't even privy to this info.
I am leaning towards big time talk in the barracks to pass the time type of urban legend.
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jilliibabii
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
I highly doubt he knows it for a fact, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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neener1211
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
I doubt it is a 'fact' unless he was the one with Bin Laden in his sight.
However, I'd be surprised if this wasn't true.
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
Posted by leighdvm
I wouldn't be shocked....there are many things the government doesn't want us to know, for whatever reason.....
ITA and I speak from experience and wont go into it.
The reasoning behind it is human nature-people are not always capable of handling the truth so it is filtered.
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heathergirl
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
Posted by jilliibabii
I highly doubt he knows it for a fact, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Yeah this is how I'm leaning. I don't believe he really KNOWS at all, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true.
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heathergirl
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
Posted by leighdvm
I wouldn't be shocked....there are many things the government doesn't want us to know, for whatever reason.....
And I completely agree with this also.
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JessInCA
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
Posted by CrankyPants
I don't know how he could "know as a fact" unless he was the one with the gun pointed at him.
Exactly. And I imagine that, if it did happen, the parties involved would be debriefed and ordered to keep the information classified - something the military takes very seriously. So I won't say I flat out don't believe it, because it is definitely within the realm of possiblity, but I'd be suspicious of his source. Some people just like to talk to make themselves feel important.
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MrsA714
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
Posted by JessInCA
Posted by CrankyPants
I don't know how he could "know as a fact" unless he was the one with the gun pointed at him.
Exactly. And I imagine that, if it did happen, the parties involved would be debriefed and ordered to keep the information classified - something the military takes very seriously. So I won't say I flat out don't believe it, because it is definitely within the realm of possiblity, but I'd be suspicious of his source. Some people just like to talk to make themselves feel important.
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
i absolutely believe that it's possible that the gov't had him in sight and chose not to take the opportunity.
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
Posted by Blu-ize
My thought on this is that they don't want to take him out. There is something to gain by having him go about his business..intelligence wise.
My feeling is we know exactly where he is and what he is doing and we are doing intelligence gathering.
I also think when the time is right we will take him out along with the main operatives who control his world.
It may take a while.
i agree. im sure they arent letting these opportunities pass them by for a reason
with today's technology id be amazed if what you were saying wasnt true
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heathergirl
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
Posted by NeedtoHide
Posted by Blu-ize
My thought on this is that they don't want to take him out. There is something to gain by having him go about his business..intelligence wise.
My feeling is we know exactly where he is and what he is doing and we are doing intelligence gathering.
I also think when the time is right we will take him out along with the main operatives who control his world.
It may take a while.
i agree. im sure they arent letting these opportunities pass them by for a reason
with today's technology id be amazed if what you were saying wasnt true
That's what I was thinking too...The sheer advances in technology alone make it so hard to believe we can't or haven't found him.
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Re: This is a touchy political subject. Save the popcorn for later.
Posted by Blu-ize
My thought on this is that they don't want to take him out. There is something to gain by having him go about his business..intelligence wise.
My feeling is we know exactly where he is and what he is doing and we are doing intelligence gathering.
I also think when the time is right we will take him out along with the main operatives who control his world.
It may take a while.
I agree. I also think that you need to account for the idea of making this guy a martyr if you were to "take him out", which would spur Muslim extremists to worldwide violence.
I highly doubt your neighbor is "in the know" too. He's speculating based on something he heard - just as we are.
Also -
I can't imagine it's too hard to find a 6'4+ guy that walks with a cane & needs medical attention for his kidney disease.
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