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Hofstra26
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Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
THIS audio recording is ALL anyone needs to hear to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump is a corrupt, lying, tyrant that is brazenly trying to STEAL the election by threats and coercion.
May Congress act swiftly and decisively on Wednesday, it's time to end this charade that has been propagated by Trump and the Republicans.
I cannot believe we are actually watching an outgoing president trying to undermine our democracy and use the power of his office to STEAL and election that he LOST. Disgusting.
TRUMP ON TAPE THREATENING RAFFENSPERGER
TRUMP TRYIING TO STEAL ELECTION IN GA
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GoldenRod
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Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Sounds like treason to me.... authoritarian power grab to override the will of the people and Democracy.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Posted by GoldenRod
Sounds like treason to me.... authoritarian power grab to override the will of the people and Democracy.
Yep.
Where do Republicans get the balls to cry fraud and election theft when the PRESIDENT is ON TAPE trying to the STEAL the election???
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GoldenRod
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
I just want to make sure that this thread about the potus ON TAPE trying to force a State official to "find" extra votes to steal the legitimate election doesn't fall to the side.
This needs to be front and center for years, and what he will be known for. Absolute and complete disregard for Democracy.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Yes, I agree! In fact, this is such a blatant disregard for democracy and an abhorrent abuse of the office he holds that realistically, he should be removed from office effective immediately. He should not be allowed to finish out the last 2.5 weeks, he's a lying, treasonous, corrupt individual and cannot be trusted.
Would you believe that even listening to him, in his own voice, on audio there are Trump supporters who are literally defending this and saying (as usual) "that's not what he meant". Also that he was purposely saying those things to "trap" Raffensperger so they have him on tape when they sue him for stealing the election from Trump.  Guess you cannot fix stupid.
I think the Republicans who plan to cause trouble on Wednesday need to think LOOOOOONG and hard about their circus plan. You cannot stand up and contest an election crying that it was stolen when the person who is lodging the complaints is literally on audio trying to steal the election. I cannot believe this is real life right now.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
As soon as a single Republican objects on Wednesday the Democrats should hit play and allow Trump's audio to blare across the speaker system in chambers. That should shut them right up. 
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Posted by Hofstra26
As soon as a single Republican objects on Wednesday the Democrats should hit play and allow Trump's audio to blare across the speaker system in chambers. That should shut them right up.
But they don't care. They know he's awful, but they want to win at any cost.
I'm so frustrated that Ted Cruz is leading a group to deny the vote on Wednesday. And there's nothing we can do about it. We've already voted and these cheaters are already in. So we're helpless if they don't actually vote Biden in.
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GoldenRod
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
I love how he's convinced that he won by 300,000... later bumped to 400,000 votes but he just needs 11,780 votes to be "found", just so he wins by 1 vote...
If someone legitimately thinks they accurately won by hundreds of thousands of votes, why would you ask for only 11,780 votes to be "found".
Unless, of course, you know you didn't actually win, and are trying to destroy our Democracy and our elections and just steal the election illegally.....
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Hofstra26
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
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Posted by Hofstra26
As soon as a single Republican objects on Wednesday the Democrats should hit play and allow Trump's audio to blare across the speaker system in chambers. That should shut them right up.
But they don't care. They know he's awful, but they want to win at any cost.
I'm so frustrated that Ted Cruz is leading a group to deny the vote on Wednesday. And there's nothing we can do about it. We've already voted and these cheaters are already in. So we're helpless if they don't actually vote Biden in.
I think some Republicans are finally seeing the writing on the wall here and over the next few months/years we will start to see them pull away from him. The fact is, it's CLEAR he's a criminal, he was never really a true Republican to begin with anyway and now he's dragging them all down.
I have no fears that Biden won't be voted in, after this audio tape release these idiots who are causing all of this circus won't have a leg to stand on. Just 16 more days, we can do this!! 
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Hofstra26
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Posted by GoldenRod
I love how he's convinced that he won by 300,000... later bumped to 400,000 votes but he just needs 11,780 votes to be "found", just so he wins by 1 vote...
If someone legitimately thinks they accurately won by hundreds of thousands of votes, why would you ask for only 11,780 votes to be "found".
Unless, of course, you know you didn't actually win, and are trying to destroy our Democracy and our elections and just steal the election illegally.....
BINGO!! 
He is a babbling fool and isn't remotely smart enough to even pull off cheating. LOL
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GoldenRod
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Perdue, and other supporters are more upset that the call was recorded and released to the public rather than the fact that the potus is committing numerous federal crimes.... 
They aren't defending him (because you can't), just upset that it was recorded....
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Hofstra26
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Posted by GoldenRod
Perdue, and other supporters are more upset that the call was recorded and released to the public rather than the fact that the potus is committing numerous federal crimes....
They aren't defending him (because you can't), just upset that it was recorded....
What has happened to that party????
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Funkybutt
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As soon as a single Republican objects on Wednesday the Democrats should hit play and allow Trump's audio to blare across the speaker system in chambers. That should shut them right up.
But they don't care. They know he's awful, but they want to win at any cost.
I'm so frustrated that Ted Cruz is leading a group to deny the vote on Wednesday. And there's nothing we can do about it. We've already voted and these cheaters are already in. So we're helpless if they don't actually vote Biden in.
I think some Republicans are finally seeing the writing on the wall here and over the next few months/years we will start to see them pull away from him. The fact is, it's CLEAR he's a criminal, he was never really a true Republican to begin with anyway and now he's dragging them all down.
I have no fears that Biden won't be voted in, after this audio tape release these idiots who are causing all of this circus won't have a leg to stand on. Just 16 more days, we can do this!!
I'm not worried about Biden being voted in, but I do worry about Trump's cult causing chaos all over the country.
I'm also grateful that this phone conversation was recorded and made public since I've had fears of Trump coming back in 4 years and running again. Biden isn't being handed a country in a good position and it's going to take a LOT of work (which of course a Republican controlled Congress will impede) to turn it around. So I'm afraid if he doesn't get done what needs to be done, Trump will just hold it up and say look! See! You need me! and run again.  But now, Republicans HAVE to distance themselves from him. This is treason, abuse of the highest power in the country, and won't be let go.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Posted by Momma2015
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As soon as a single Republican objects on Wednesday the Democrats should hit play and allow Trump's audio to blare across the speaker system in chambers. That should shut them right up.
But they don't care. They know he's awful, but they want to win at any cost.
I'm so frustrated that Ted Cruz is leading a group to deny the vote on Wednesday. And there's nothing we can do about it. We've already voted and these cheaters are already in. So we're helpless if they don't actually vote Biden in.
I think some Republicans are finally seeing the writing on the wall here and over the next few months/years we will start to see them pull away from him. The fact is, it's CLEAR he's a criminal, he was never really a true Republican to begin with anyway and now he's dragging them all down.
I have no fears that Biden won't be voted in, after this audio tape release these idiots who are causing all of this circus won't have a leg to stand on. Just 16 more days, we can do this!!
I'm not worried about Biden being voted in, but I do worry about Trump's cult causing chaos all over the country.
I'm also grateful that this phone conversation was recorded and made public since I've had fears of Trump coming back in 4 years and running again. Biden isn't being handed a country in a good position and it's going to take a LOT of work (which of course a Republican controlled Congress will impede) to turn it around. So I'm afraid if he doesn't get done what needs to be done, Trump will just hold it up and say look! See! You need me! and run again. But now, Republicans HAVE to distance themselves from him. This is treason, abuse of the highest power in the country, and won't be let go.
I understand what you're saying, I agree with you. It's nerve wracking to think what long term effects we might suffer from Trump's chaotic reign. I am hoping that by the time the next election rolls around Trump with have lost interest, Republicans will have lost interest in him, there will be FAR better candidates for them to put up or (and I know this sounds terrible but.......) he is dead and a non-issue. This country will not survive round 2 of him, let's just hope we don't have to ever contend with that.
This thwarted attempt to steal an election is treasonous and abuse of power but unfortunately, you and I both know he'll likely just get away with it as he gets away with most everything else. My greatest hope is that once he's out on the 20th he gets bombarded with so many lawsuits that he'll spend the rest of his miserable, sad life fighting them in court or serving time for them in prison. Fingers crossed. 
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Funkybutt
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Posted by Hofstra26
I understand what you're saying, I agree with you. It's nerve wracking to think what long term effects we might suffer from Trump's chaotic reign. I am hoping that by the time the next election rolls around Trump with have lost interest, Republicans will have lost interest in him, there will be FAR better candidates for them to put up or (and I know this sounds terrible but.......) he is dead and a non-issue. This country will not survive round 2 of him, let's just hope we don't have to ever contend with that.
Trump would be 78 if he ran again and he's pretty unhealthy. Plus all the stress of (assuming) multiple lawsuits. Who knows if he'll even be alive in 4 years? 
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
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Posted by Hofstra26
I understand what you're saying, I agree with you. It's nerve wracking to think what long term effects we might suffer from Trump's chaotic reign. I am hoping that by the time the next election rolls around Trump with have lost interest, Republicans will have lost interest in him, there will be FAR better candidates for them to put up or (and I know this sounds terrible but.......) he is dead and a non-issue. This country will not survive round 2 of him, let's just hope we don't have to ever contend with that.
Trump would be 78 if he ran again and he's pretty unhealthy. Plus all the stress of (assuming) multiple lawsuits. Who knows if he'll even be alive in 4 years?
True! I didn't think about his age. Though I'm sure he's going to outlive us all- roaches usually do.
I have no hopes of him actually serving time but I agree, he SHOULD be at the least tied up in lawsuits for as far as I can see.
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JennP
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
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Posted by Hofstra26
As soon as a single Republican objects on Wednesday the Democrats should hit play and allow Trump's audio to blare across the speaker system in chambers. That should shut them right up.
But they don't care. They know he's awful, but they want to win at any cost.
I'm so frustrated that Ted Cruz is leading a group to deny the vote on Wednesday. And there's nothing we can do about it. We've already voted and these cheaters are already in. So we're helpless if they don't actually vote Biden in.
I'm not concerned about Wednesday but that's only because we have a Democratic house. They will go through the debate because they will have to but will inevitably formalize the EC vote.
For Republicans since the Southern Strategy, power has always been more important to them than democracy (hence their voter suppression.) The difference now is that there is a sizable faction that is taking much more blatant and sometimes criminal action towards the goal of maintaining power at all costs.
It is vital that the 119th Congress (2024 elections) have at least one blue house. Otherwise, in a scenario where Biden gets reelected and both houses are red, we could in theory see a situation where the election gets thrown to the House, where each state votes as a delegation and gets one vote. If the House turns red, it will be highly likely that more states will have a Repub majority (even now that's the case with a slim blue majority) and the Repub candidate wins regardless of the EC.
I'm politically active and already thinking about 2022.
Democracy is fragile indeed.
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Posted by JennP
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Posted by Hofstra26
As soon as a single Republican objects on Wednesday the Democrats should hit play and allow Trump's audio to blare across the speaker system in chambers. That should shut them right up.
But they don't care. They know he's awful, but they want to win at any cost.
I'm so frustrated that Ted Cruz is leading a group to deny the vote on Wednesday. And there's nothing we can do about it. We've already voted and these cheaters are already in. So we're helpless if they don't actually vote Biden in.
I'm not concerned about Wednesday but that's only because we have a Democratic house. They will go through the debate because they will have to but will inevitably formalize the EC vote.
For Republicans since the Southern Strategy, power has always been more important to them than democracy (hence their voter suppression.) The difference now is that there is a sizable faction that is taking much more blatant and sometimes criminal action towards the goal of maintaining power at all costs.
It is vital that the 119th Congress (2024 elections) have at least one blue house. Otherwise, in a scenario where Biden gets reelected and both houses are red, we could in theory see a situation where the election gets thrown to the House, where each state votes as a delegation and gets one vote. If the House turns red, it will be highly likely that more states will have a Repub majority (even now that's the case with a slim blue majority) and the Repub candidate wins regardless of the EC.
I'm politically active and already thinking about 2022.
Democracy is fragile indeed.
I appreciate your insightful political posts, I agree with all that you said. I feel like we will be on shaky ground the next few years.
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GoldenRod
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
I can't believe that trump is ON TAPE committing treason, and it's being swept under the rug by the GOP, but a story about someone's childhood is a big news story.
Talk about a double-standard. GOP politicians get away with anything, but Democrats get dragged over the coals for the slightest thing....
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
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I can't believe that trump is ON TAPE committing treason, and it's being swept under the rug by the GOP, but a story about someone's childhood is a big news story.
Talk about a double-standard. GOP politicians get away with anything, but Democrats get dragged over the coals for the slightest thing....
Really? Sheesh we get it you guys don’t like her. And this story is not getting swept under the rug. It’s been talked about to the point of exhaustion that even I was sick of hearing about it.
Valentine was clearly talking about it being covered in general. Which she does have a point.
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
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Posted by GoldenRod
I can't believe that trump is ON TAPE committing treason, and it's being swept under the rug by the GOP, but a story about someone's childhood is a big news story.
Talk about a double-standard. GOP politicians get away with anything, but Democrats get dragged over the coals for the slightest thing....
Really? Sheesh we get it you guys don’t like her. And this story is not getting swept under the rug. It’s been talked about to the point of exhaustion that even I was sick of hearing about it.
Valentine was clearly talking about it being covered in general. Which she does have a point.
He said it's being swept under the rug by the GOP which is 100% true.
A major GOP figure (maybe Kemp, but I'm not sure and I can't find it now) was quoted complaining about Raffsensperfer taping the call. That was his first and primary concern, the target of his moral outrage. Not Trump, a sitting president who spent an hour alternatively begging and threatening a state's SOS to commit election fraud.
No outrage from the Repubs at all but it's not even surprising. There is a double standard and has been for a while. Take Al Franken - a hint of scandal and he was gone in a flash at the encouragement of multiple prominent Dems. There are so many examples - Georgia came within a hair's breadth of electing two Senators being investigated for insider trading due to a pandemic no less.
The bar can be low for both parties but it's buried below the toilet for one. It's natural to point out that hypocrisy - which goes way beyond VB's post!
And I can only speak for myself, but with the exception of a couple of people I speak with off LIF, I don't know people well enough to like or dislike anyone on here. I might like or dislike a poster's persona but I know that is just how they portray themselves and for me it's never personal. Goldenrod didn't say anything nasty to VB and she literally never lets anything go so there is nothing wrong with his response countering her point.
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Posted by JennP
Posted by Sash
Posted by GoldenRod
I can't believe that trump is ON TAPE committing treason, and it's being swept under the rug by the GOP, but a story about someone's childhood is a big news story.
Talk about a double-standard. GOP politicians get away with anything, but Democrats get dragged over the coals for the slightest thing....
Really? Sheesh we get it you guys don’t like her. And this story is not getting swept under the rug. It’s been talked about to the point of exhaustion that even I was sick of hearing about it.
Valentine was clearly talking about it being covered in general. Which she does have a point.
He said it's being swept under the rug by the GOP which is 100% true.
A major GOP figure (maybe Kemp, but I'm not sure and I can't find it now) was quoted complaining about Raffsensperfer taping the call. That was his first and primary concern, the target of his moral outrage. Not Trump, a sitting president who spent an hour alternatively begging and threatening a state's SOS to commit election fraud.
No outrage from the Repubs at all but it's not even surprising. There is a double standard and has been for a while. Take Al Franken - a hint of scandal and he was gone in a flash at the encouragement of multiple prominent Dems. There are so many examples - Georgia came within a hair's breadth of electing two Senators being investigated for insider trading due to a pandemic no less.
The bar can be low for both parties but it's buried below the toilet for one. It's natural to point out that hypocrisy - which goes way beyond VB's post!
And I can only speak for myself, but with the exception of a couple of people I speak with off LIF, I don't know people well enough to like or dislike anyone on here. I might like or dislike a poster's persona but I know that is just how they portray themselves and for me it's never personal. Goldenrod didn't say anything nasty to VB and she literally never lets anything go so there is nothing wrong with his response countering her point.
I know what he said and I know why he said it. Which is clear in my response. If people are going to be passive aggressive then at least own it.
I don’t need you to break down to me what is happening in our Government. Yes he said GOP but it’s clearly in response to what she posted about Kamala. Let’s not play stupid.
Eta: it’s getting to the point of bullying, others have also responded with enough is enough already. Not just me. I think many on LIF are over it.
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Posted by Sash
Posted by JennP
Posted by Sash
Posted by GoldenRod
I can't believe that trump is ON TAPE committing treason, and it's being swept under the rug by the GOP, but a story about someone's childhood is a big news story.
Talk about a double-standard. GOP politicians get away with anything, but Democrats get dragged over the coals for the slightest thing....
Really? Sheesh we get it you guys don’t like her. And this story is not getting swept under the rug. It’s been talked about to the point of exhaustion that even I was sick of hearing about it.
Valentine was clearly talking about it being covered in general. Which she does have a point.
He said it's being swept under the rug by the GOP which is 100% true.
A major GOP figure (maybe Kemp, but I'm not sure and I can't find it now) was quoted complaining about Raffsensperfer taping the call. That was his first and primary concern, the target of his moral outrage. Not Trump, a sitting president who spent an hour alternatively begging and threatening a state's SOS to commit election fraud.
No outrage from the Repubs at all but it's not even surprising. There is a double standard and has been for a while. Take Al Franken - a hint of scandal and he was gone in a flash at the encouragement of multiple prominent Dems. There are so many examples - Georgia came within a hair's breadth of electing two Senators being investigated for insider trading due to a pandemic no less.
The bar can be low for both parties but it's buried below the toilet for one. It's natural to point out that hypocrisy - which goes way beyond VB's post!
And I can only speak for myself, but with the exception of a couple of people I speak with off LIF, I don't know people well enough to like or dislike anyone on here. I might like or dislike a poster's persona but I know that is just how they portray themselves and for me it's never personal. Goldenrod didn't say anything nasty to VB and she literally never lets anything go so there is nothing wrong with his response countering her point.
I know what he said and I know why he said it. Which is clear in my response. If people are going to be passive aggressive then at least own it.
I don’t need you to break down to me what is happening in our Government. Yes he said GOP but it’s clearly in response to what she posted about Kamala. Let’s not play stupid.
Well, the point of being passive aggressive is to not own it, so maybe you don't need me to break down what's happening in the government, but it seems like you need someone to break down what passive aggressive means.
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
Posted by JennP
Posted by Sash
Posted by JennP
Posted by Sash
Posted by GoldenRod
I can't believe that trump is ON TAPE committing treason, and it's being swept under the rug by the GOP, but a story about someone's childhood is a big news story.
Talk about a double-standard. GOP politicians get away with anything, but Democrats get dragged over the coals for the slightest thing....
Really? Sheesh we get it you guys don’t like her. And this story is not getting swept under the rug. It’s been talked about to the point of exhaustion that even I was sick of hearing about it.
Valentine was clearly talking about it being covered in general. Which she does have a point.
He said it's being swept under the rug by the GOP which is 100% true.
A major GOP figure (maybe Kemp, but I'm not sure and I can't find it now) was quoted complaining about Raffsensperfer taping the call. That was his first and primary concern, the target of his moral outrage. Not Trump, a sitting president who spent an hour alternatively begging and threatening a state's SOS to commit election fraud.
No outrage from the Repubs at all but it's not even surprising. There is a double standard and has been for a while. Take Al Franken - a hint of scandal and he was gone in a flash at the encouragement of multiple prominent Dems. There are so many examples - Georgia came within a hair's breadth of electing two Senators being investigated for insider trading due to a pandemic no less.
The bar can be low for both parties but it's buried below the toilet for one. It's natural to point out that hypocrisy - which goes way beyond VB's post!
And I can only speak for myself, but with the exception of a couple of people I speak with off LIF, I don't know people well enough to like or dislike anyone on here. I might like or dislike a poster's persona but I know that is just how they portray themselves and for me it's never personal. Goldenrod didn't say anything nasty to VB and she literally never lets anything go so there is nothing wrong with his response countering her point.
I know what he said and I know why he said it. Which is clear in my response. If people are going to be passive aggressive then at least own it.
I don’t need you to break down to me what is happening in our Government. Yes he said GOP but it’s clearly in response to what she posted about Kamala. Let’s not play stupid.
Well, the point of being passive aggressive is to not own it, so maybe you don't need me to break down what's happening in the government, but it seems like you need someone to break down what passive aggressive means.
How much is he paying you? Geez you care so much.
Eta: and if someone called me out, I would own it and not lie or say I meant “this”. I 100% wouldn’t deflect and play dumb. I especially wouldn’t be lying or deflecting for someone else.
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Re: Trump is ON TAPE pressuring Raffensperger to lie and give him the win in GA
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Posted by GoldenRod
I can't believe that trump is ON TAPE committing treason, and it's being swept under the rug by the GOP, but a story about someone's childhood is a big news story.
Talk about a double-standard. GOP politicians get away with anything, but Democrats get dragged over the coals for the slightest thing....
Really? Sheesh we get it you guys don’t like her. And this story is not getting swept under the rug. It’s been talked about to the point of exhaustion that even I was sick of hearing about it.
Valentine was clearly talking about it being covered in general. Which she does have a point.
He said it's being swept under the rug by the GOP which is 100% true.
A major GOP figure (maybe Kemp, but I'm not sure and I can't find it now) was quoted complaining about Raffsensperfer taping the call. That was his first and primary concern, the target of his moral outrage. Not Trump, a sitting president who spent an hour alternatively begging and threatening a state's SOS to commit election fraud.
No outrage from the Repubs at all but it's not even surprising. There is a double standard and has been for a while. Take Al Franken - a hint of scandal and he was gone in a flash at the encouragement of multiple prominent Dems. There are so many examples - Georgia came within a hair's breadth of electing two Senators being investigated for insider trading due to a pandemic no less.
The bar can be low for both parties but it's buried below the toilet for one. It's natural to point out that hypocrisy - which goes way beyond VB's post!
And I can only speak for myself, but with the exception of a couple of people I speak with off LIF, I don't know people well enough to like or dislike anyone on here. I might like or dislike a poster's persona but I know that is just how they portray themselves and for me it's never personal. Goldenrod didn't say anything nasty to VB and she literally never lets anything go so there is nothing wrong with his response countering her point.
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