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Jenhos
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What should the US do about Syria?
Curious what peoples opinions are on this.
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Posted 4/5/17 2:06 PM |
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Jonsgirl04
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
I fully support Military action and taking Assad Out! If Trump said lets get this guy. Then I support it. Not all like Trump I get it and it cost money to go to war. Something has to happen or else they will continue to do it. Syria has to be dealt with! They have done this twice now! Everyone in the world should support taking him out. Watch one video of the attack...look at the photos...do not look away...I seriously am sick to my stomach looking at the videos and pictures of those poor children. I cry every time I think about it. They gassed them as they slept..they did not know they were coming. No chance to survive. Chemical Attacks like this, MUST end! I pray that this world can change because anyone that can do that to children and see the outcome is a heartless person who should die!
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Posted 4/5/17 2:49 PM |
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
Posted by Jonsgirl04
I fully support Military action and taking Assad Out! If Trump said lets get this guy. Then I support it. Not all like Trump I get it and it cost money to go to war. Something has to happen or else they will continue to do it. Syria has to be dealt with! They have done this twice now! Everyone in the world should support taking him out. Watch one video of the attack...look at the photos...do not look away...I seriously am sick to my stomach looking at the videos and pictures of those poor children. I cry every time I think about it. They gassed them as they slept..they did not know they were coming. No chance to survive. Chemical Attacks like this, MUST end! I pray that this world can change because anyone that can do that to children and see the outcome is a heartless person who should die!
I agree 100%. I don't like war, but this has to end.
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Posted 4/5/17 3:06 PM |
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ohbaby08
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What should the US do about Syria?
I honestly have no idea. Assad needs to go, but there are so many variables in that region that it's a tough call. Do we get into another Iraq situation? I don't think that would be wise for our country right now.
I am sickened by the images I saw yesterday, but just don't know how to proceed. Take out Assad, and then what?
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Posted 4/5/17 3:35 PM |
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
Posted by ohbaby08
I honestly have no idea. Assad needs to go, but there are so many variables in that region that it's a tough call. Do we get into another Iraq situation? I don't think that would be wise for our country right now.
I am sickened by the images I saw yesterday, but just don't know how to proceed. Take out Assad, and then what?
I agree. It is bigger than just dealing with Assad. not sure we can afford it and that the American people can stomach losing god knows how many of troops while dealing witb it.
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Posted 4/5/17 10:52 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
This type of thing is one (of a long list) reason why I would never want to be President. There is no "good" response...
If we go in and take out Assad, then we're meddling, nation-building, spending money on another war, sending men out to die in battle, etc. Also, a lot of experts think that as terrible as Assad is, he's maintaining a balance in Syria, and without him, there would be even more fighting and bloodshed in the region. He was also "democratically elected" two times, so it looks very bad if we take out someone whom the citizens supposedly want in power.
If we don't go in, we're allowing a vicious man to kill children and other innocent civilians on a regular basis, repeatedly commit International war crimes, as well as a long list of human rights violations.
No matter what option we take, at least half the country will hate that decision.
From a humanitarian point of view, we should definitely take him out. From a military, nation-building, economic, regional stability point of view, I don't think we should. Those two polar opposite views don't sit well with me, and I'm not the one making life-changing decisions for millions of people....
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Posted 4/6/17 8:12 AM |
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
Posted by GoldenRod
This type of thing is one (of a long list) reason why I would never want to be President. There is no "good" response...
If we go in and take out Assad, then we're meddling, nation-building, spending money on another war, sending men out to die in battle, etc. Also, a lot of experts think that as terrible as Assad is, he's maintaining a balance in Syria, and without him, there would be even more fighting and bloodshed in the region. He was also "democratically elected" two times, so it looks very bad if we take out someone whom the citizens supposedly want in power.
If we don't go in, we're allowing a vicious man to kill children and other innocent civilians on a regular basis, repeatedly commit International war crimes, as well as a long list of human rights violations.
No matter what option we take, at least half the country will hate that decision.
From a humanitarian point of view, we should definitely take him out. From a military, nation-building, economic, regional stability point of view, I don't think we should. Those two polar opposite views don't sit well with me, and I'm not the one making life-changing decisions for millions of people....
And we have Trump in charge to navigate this situation.
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Posted 4/6/17 8:35 AM |
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Bugaboo
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
Posted by GoldenRod
This type of thing is one (of a long list) reason why I would never want to be President. There is no "good" response...
If we go in and take out Assad, then we're meddling, nation-building, spending money on another war, sending men out to die in battle, etc. Also, a lot of experts think that as terrible as Assad is, he's maintaining a balance in Syria, and without him, there would be even more fighting and bloodshed in the region. He was also "democratically elected" two times, so it looks very bad if we take out someone whom the citizens supposedly want in power.
If we don't go in, we're allowing a vicious man to kill children and other innocent civilians on a regular basis, repeatedly commit International war crimes, as well as a long list of human rights violations.
No matter what option we take, at least half the country will hate that decision.
From a humanitarian point of view, we should definitely take him out. From a military, nation-building, economic, regional stability point of view, I don't think we should. Those two polar opposite views don't sit well with me, and I'm not the one making life-changing decisions for millions of people....
It is a difficult situation but it's just crocodile tears from the same people who want to close the door on accepting Syrian refugees and have labeled them as terrorists. It's ok to help these innocent people by going over to Syria but no way in hell would we want to help them if it involved them being on US soil.
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Posted 4/6/17 9:26 AM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by GoldenRod
This type of thing is one (of a long list) reason why I would never want to be President. There is no "good" response...
If we go in and take out Assad, then we're meddling, nation-building, spending money on another war, sending men out to die in battle, etc. Also, a lot of experts think that as terrible as Assad is, he's maintaining a balance in Syria, and without him, there would be even more fighting and bloodshed in the region. He was also "democratically elected" two times, so it looks very bad if we take out someone whom the citizens supposedly want in power.
If we don't go in, we're allowing a vicious man to kill children and other innocent civilians on a regular basis, repeatedly commit International war crimes, as well as a long list of human rights violations.
No matter what option we take, at least half the country will hate that decision.
From a humanitarian point of view, we should definitely take him out. From a military, nation-building, economic, regional stability point of view, I don't think we should. Those two polar opposite views don't sit well with me, and I'm not the one making life-changing decisions for millions of people....
It is a difficult situation but it's just crocodile tears from the same people who want to close the door on accepting Syrian refugees and have labeled them as terrorists. It's ok to help these innocent people by going over to Syria but no way in hell would we want to help them if it involved them being on US soil.
Sending (or not sending) in military to take out Assan *should* be a completely different topic than taking in refugees, and not necessarily connected. For me, there isn't a question about whether or not we should take them in. Syrian refugees are already "extremely vetted", so I think we should take them in.
However, I do agree with you that there are a lot of people who do think the refugees are terrorists, and we should only "help" them by bombing their country...
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Posted 4/6/17 9:45 AM |
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Bugaboo
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
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This type of thing is one (of a long list) reason why I would never want to be President. There is no "good" response...
If we go in and take out Assad, then we're meddling, nation-building, spending money on another war, sending men out to die in battle, etc. Also, a lot of experts think that as terrible as Assad is, he's maintaining a balance in Syria, and without him, there would be even more fighting and bloodshed in the region. He was also "democratically elected" two times, so it looks very bad if we take out someone whom the citizens supposedly want in power.
If we don't go in, we're allowing a vicious man to kill children and other innocent civilians on a regular basis, repeatedly commit International war crimes, as well as a long list of human rights violations.
No matter what option we take, at least half the country will hate that decision.
From a humanitarian point of view, we should definitely take him out. From a military, nation-building, economic, regional stability point of view, I don't think we should. Those two polar opposite views don't sit well with me, and I'm not the one making life-changing decisions for millions of people....
It is a difficult situation but it's just crocodile tears from the same people who want to close the door on accepting Syrian refugees and have labeled them as terrorists. It's ok to help these innocent people by going over to Syria but no way in hell would we want to help them if it involved them being on US soil.
Sending (or not sending) in military to take out Assan *should* be a completely different topic than taking in refugees, and not necessarily connected. For me, there isn't a question about whether or not we should take them in. Syrian refugees are already "extremely vetted", so I think we should take them in.
However, I do agree with you that there are a lot of people who do think the refugees are terrorists, and we should only "help" them by bombing their country...
I think taking out Assad and taking in refugees is connected. Both actions would be to save lives and to stop the atrocities that are happening to these people. Assad has been massacring Syrians for 6-7 years with no end in sight. He is bombing cities, hospitals, aid convoys, etc. He wants people to suffer and die no matter the cost.
I bet Americans who are against letting Syrian refugees come to the US would rather see the US just go and bomb the sh!t out of Syria.
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Posted 4/6/17 12:44 PM |
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LIRascal
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What should the US do about Syria?
We're not just dealing with one group here. It's a difficult and delicate situation that requires a lot more than just wiping out Assad and his militants. There will still be thousands of displaced persons, and what then? I think a really strong plan should be put into place to prevent another regime from taking over that's equally as oppressive and violent. I think it is safe to say the new borders need to be drawn as well but we should not be the ones deciding how to do that . Military support and eight is my choice but I do not think bombing the crap out of them alone will solve anything
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Posted 4/6/17 2:31 PM |
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stinger
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
Trump just ordered military strikes in syria
From what i hear there isnt proof that Asaad did this and it could be ISIS?
Many syrians support assaad.
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Posted 4/6/17 9:23 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
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Trump just ordered military strikes in syria
From what i hear there isnt proof that Asaad did this and it could be ISIS?
Many syrians support assaad.
That is not what I'm listening to. They are saying they have radar proof, heat seeking detection, etc. that this was not an ISIS attack. That it was a Syrian gov't attack. Disgusting.
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Posted 4/6/17 10:20 PM |
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
Posted by Bugaboo
Posted by GoldenRod
This type of thing is one (of a long list) reason why I would never want to be President. There is no "good" response...
If we go in and take out Assad, then we're meddling, nation-building, spending money on another war, sending men out to die in battle, etc. Also, a lot of experts think that as terrible as Assad is, he's maintaining a balance in Syria, and without him, there would be even more fighting and bloodshed in the region. He was also "democratically elected" two times, so it looks very bad if we take out someone whom the citizens supposedly want in power.
If we don't go in, we're allowing a vicious man to kill children and other innocent civilians on a regular basis, repeatedly commit International war crimes, as well as a long list of human rights violations.
No matter what option we take, at least half the country will hate that decision.
From a humanitarian point of view, we should definitely take him out. From a military, nation-building, economic, regional stability point of view, I don't think we should. Those two polar opposite views don't sit well with me, and I'm not the one making life-changing decisions for millions of people....
It is a difficult situation but it's just crocodile tears from the same people who want to close the door on accepting Syrian refugees and have labeled them as terrorists. It's ok to help these innocent people by going over to Syria but no way in hell would we want to help them if it involved them being on US soil.
I just said the same thing to DH. I hope this is a real eye opener to him. I agree with him taking action
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Posted 4/6/17 10:32 PM |
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Jenhos
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
I don't think this was ISIS. it will be interesting to see what the responses are from our allies tomorrow. Trump definitely sent a message tonight. There were Russian troops at that base at one point. Let's hope they were out of there before this happened.
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Posted 4/6/17 10:35 PM |
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LIRascal
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What should the US do about Syria?
So far, the response has been good. It was well executed, that's for sure.
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Posted 4/7/17 9:21 AM |
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Bugaboo
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
I'm glad Trump decided to attack. However, he needs to be forthcoming about what changed his mind to intervene because his stance on Syria and Assad literally turned on a dime.
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Posted 4/7/17 9:34 AM |
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
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So far, the response has been good. It was well executed, that's for sure.
Source?
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Posted 4/7/17 9:34 AM |
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
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Posted by LIRascal
So far, the response has been good. It was well executed, that's for sure.
Source?
Here's one:
BBC
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Posted 4/7/17 9:38 AM |
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Ugh, the repercussions of this attack remain to be seem but IMHO American policy is so short-sighted, especially foreign policy.
This was exemplified by the "mission accomplished" speech 41 days into the invasion of Iraq. Sure, there was a plan to invade the country and topple Saddam - a very good plan which worked quite well considering it only took 41 days to win the war. The problem is that there was no plan to win the peace. After we won, we had no idea what to do next, and it just became a mess. People forget, after the second world war, we had the Marshall Plan, which involved significant financial investment into Europe, and a similar policy in Asia. We occupied Germany and Japan for several years, rewriting their laws and policies, and reshaping their cultuers. We also established bases in Germany and Japan that are still in use. Compare that to Afghanistan, where we financed the Mujahadeen during their war against the soviet union, but then refused to provide financial aid afterwards, or Russia, which after the collapse of the soviet union was left in complete disarray for years.
It seems that American policy is to go in and get rid of X regime, then leave (or take a hands-off approach) that leaves the country a mess. Then we rightfully get blamed for creating the mess, and a few years later have to start all over again. We really ought to clean up our mess, and build a country up. And that doesn't mean indiscriminately pouring money in, it means making smart investments to ensure that most peoples quality of life improves while shaping industry and education toward our ideals.
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Posted 4/7/17 9:44 AM |
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
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Ugh, the repercussions of this attack remain to be seem but IMHO American policy is so short-sighted, especially foreign policy.
This was exemplified by the "mission accomplished" speech 41 days into the invasion of Iraq. Sure, there was a plan to invade the country and topple Saddam - a very good plan which worked quite well considering it only took 41 days to win the war. The problem is that there was no plan to win the peace. After we won, we had no idea what to do next, and it just became a mess. People forget, after the second world war, we had the Marshall Plan, which involved significant financial investment into Europe, and a similar policy in Asia. We occupied Germany and Japan for several years, rewriting their laws and policies, and reshaping their cultuers. We also established bases in Germany and Japan that are still in use. Compare that to Afghanistan, where we financed the Mujahadeen during their war against the soviet union, but then refused to provide financial aid afterwards, or Russia, which after the collapse of the soviet union was left in complete disarray for years.
It seems that American policy is to go in and get rid of X regime, then leave (or take a hands-off approach) that leaves the country a mess. Then we rightfully get blamed for creating the mess, and a few years later have to start all over again. We really ought to clean up our mess, and build a country up. And that doesn't mean indiscriminately pouring money in, it means making smart investments to ensure that most peoples quality of life improves while shaping industry and education toward our ideals.
Yup, now what? What's our next step and long term strategy? Or will this all just turn into a tit for tat?
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Posted 4/7/17 9:55 AM |
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
Posted by EclecticEsq10810
Ugh, the repercussions of this attack remain to be seem but IMHO American policy is so short-sighted, especially foreign policy.
This was exemplified by the "mission accomplished" speech 41 days into the invasion of Iraq. Sure, there was a plan to invade the country and topple Saddam - a very good plan which worked quite well considering it only took 41 days to win the war. The problem is that there was no plan to win the peace. After we won, we had no idea what to do next, and it just became a mess. People forget, after the second world war, we had the Marshall Plan, which involved significant financial investment into Europe, and a similar policy in Asia. We occupied Germany and Japan for several years, rewriting their laws and policies, and reshaping their cultuers. We also established bases in Germany and Japan that are still in use. Compare that to Afghanistan, where we financed the Mujahadeen during their war against the soviet union, but then refused to provide financial aid afterwards, or Russia, which after the collapse of the soviet union was left in complete disarray for years.
It seems that American policy is to go in and get rid of X regime, then leave (or take a hands-off approach) that leaves the country a mess. Then we rightfully get blamed for creating the mess, and a few years later have to start all over again. We really ought to clean up our mess, and build a country up. And that doesn't mean indiscriminately pouring money in, it means making smart investments to ensure that most peoples quality of life improves while shaping industry and education toward our ideals.
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Posted 4/7/17 9:57 AM |
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
Posted by Bugaboo
Yup, now what? What's our next step and long term strategy? Or will this all just turn into a tit for tat?
I think this is a hiccup - Assad deliberately crossed the line much like a boy dips his feet into cold water to test its temperature. Trump just blinked in response. Now we wait to see how Russia reacts.
What really gets me is how we are basically sticking our noses in regimes where we don't stand to benefit while North Korea continues to kill and torture its own people and we aren't firing rockets up their butts
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Posted 4/7/17 10:00 AM |
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Re: What should the US do about Syria?
Posted by Mill188
Posted by stinger
Posted by LIRascal
So far, the response has been good. It was well executed, that's for sure.
Source?
Here's one:
BBC
So the world agrees with this because none of them wanted to do it?
To be honest I am just conflicted. No answer was going to be a good answer.
Do nothing and he was accused of encouraging this.
He came out on the news condemning the attacks but no one would possibly accept that since just the day before everyone blamed him for this as if he gave it a green light. Not that they weren't already planning this and would have done it no matter what.
Do something and anything that happens after will also be his fault since he green lights any reaction period. Even if they would have planned it ahead of time.
It's interesting the major countries support it though. I'd thought they'd distance themselves or at least be more cautious as the media plays it as the US is the laughing stock of the world and basically can't tie it's own shoes much less launch Missiles at anyone. No this isn’t a declaration of war, we’ve done this before. Again we have precedence for this.
But I have a sister in the Navy. So I also know that our sisters and brothers are out there. This was an unmanned mission but it will mean manned missions in the future. Then it will be “why are our children dying for a country we don’t care about” versus “we should do more” and no one wins there either.
So keeping it real, this is just overall leaving me conflicted.
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Posted 4/7/17 10:56 AM |
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MrsMick
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What should the US do about Syria?
I am conflicted on this.
Assad is fighting the rebels in his country which are Isis and other Radical Islamic groups.
While I am for the fight against terror, there are children being killed, washed up, etc etc etc. And tons of people. It is crazy.
The use of chemical weapons is a no-no. It is scary that he has them and this needs to be stopped.
Trump sent the message by doing attacking a base, not in an area where there are people and housing. I support Trump because this sends a message to China and Korea.
But now what? Look at how Iraq panned out. I always said GWB created Isis due to his involvement in Iraq.
I hope there is a well thought out plan. We shall see.
Now the question remains. Trump pissed off Russia. Does the left still think he and Putin are BFF’s?
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