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Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

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Jesaroo
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Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

i think its alittle bit of a double standard.

why is the N word taboo but "Cracker" is not?

i personally dont think either is acceptable. but im just curious why one is ok whilst the other is not.

Posted 11/20/06 8:01 PM
 
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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

i don't think it is ok to use that word...

so no double standard here

Posted 11/20/06 8:02 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

I def think it is racist, so I don't think it's ok to say it any more than it is ok to say the N word.

Posted 11/20/06 8:03 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

i dont either....

but for example... that does not get bleeped out on tv while n----- would.

no one bats an eye when the word "cracker" is used

Posted 11/20/06 8:03 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

you guys know where it originates from right?

Posted 11/20/06 8:04 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

Posted by ThusSpokeLaLolita

you guys know where it originates from right?

yes and i find it revolting

Posted 11/20/06 8:08 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

Posted by ThusSpokeLaLolita

you guys know where it originates from right?



I do according to winikpedia. Is there a different origination?

Neither is acceptable to me. I think neither should be tolerated by censors.

Posted 11/20/06 8:14 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

I don't think it's okay to use either word

Posted 11/20/06 8:15 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

Posted by DMcK

I don't think it's okay to use either word



Totally agree!!!!

Posted 11/20/06 8:15 PM
 

Jesaroo
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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

i am unsure of their definition, but i was told by a black woman that it is what the slaves would call white ppl back in the day.... as in "cracking the whip"

Posted 11/20/06 8:16 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

Posted by ThusSpokeLaLolita

i am unsure of their definition, but i was told by a black woman that it is what the slaves would call white ppl back in the day.... as in "cracking the whip"



That is the origin, from what I learned

Posted 11/20/06 8:16 PM
 

Jesaroo
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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

Posted by DMcK

I don't think it's okay to use either word



dont get me wrong i dont either!

i was just curious if others felt the same or if they feel cracka is ok

Posted 11/20/06 8:16 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

Posted by ThusSpokeLaLolita

Posted by DMcK

I don't think it's okay to use either word



dont get me wrong i dont either!

i was just curious if others felt the same or if they feel cracka is ok



No, I know. I was just giving you my thoughtsChat Icon

Posted 11/20/06 8:17 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

Posted by ThusSpokeLaLolita

you guys know where it originates from right?



I don't know where it originates from but I cringe every time I hear it.

Posted 11/20/06 8:17 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

definitely not acceptable.

both are racist words.

Posted 11/20/06 8:18 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

Posted by DMcK

Posted by ThusSpokeLaLolita

i am unsure of their definition, but i was told by a black woman that it is what the slaves would call white ppl back in the day.... as in "cracking the whip"



That is the origin, from what I learned



Here's the other theory:
The most common explanation for the origin of this phrase is that it is from corncracker, or someone who distills corn whiskey (cracking corn is to crush it into a mash for distillation).

More likely is that it is from an early sense of crack meaning to boast. This sense dates to the 16th century. A 1766 quote in the OEO2 gives the origin of cracker as boastful. (The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language)


Other theories

Posted 11/20/06 8:22 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

I am just thankful that not a lot of pop artists have felt the need to put it into their song lyrics as often as the N word is used

I actually got into a big debate with a co-worker about the useage of it

i find it all sooo demeaning and wrong

Posted 11/20/06 8:22 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

Posted by Redhead

I am just thankful that not a lot of pop artists have felt the need to put it into their song lyrics as often as the N word is used

I actually got into a big debate with a co-worker about the useage of it

i find it all sooo demeaning and wrong



I agree!! I remember years ago - probably 1998 or 99 when Chris Rock hosted the MTV awards and he kept saying cracker this and that...I was really put off by it and one of my co-workers at the time thought it was funny. Chat Icon

Posted 11/20/06 8:24 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

I think what happens sometimes is that because of the horrid history African Americans have faced, we as a society tend to be more sensitive to racist issues facing them. And in some ways, you really cannot argue that. African Americans face much more discrimination even now that most white people can even imagine. Not saying using white-racist words is okay, just maybe trying to see why they don't bleep out some words and do some othersChat Icon

Posted 11/20/06 8:26 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

Posted by DMcK

I think what happens sometimes is that because of the horrid history African Americans have faced, we as a society tend to be more sensitive to racist issues facing them. And in some ways, you really cannot argue that. African Americans face much more discrimination even now that most white people can even imagine. Not saying using white-racist words is okay, just maybe trying to see why they don't bleep out some words and do some othersChat Icon


i hear ya..

but in all honestly both words are just VILE...

and i do not understand why ANYONE would use them for entertainment purposes...

IMO some things just shouldn't be used

Posted 11/20/06 8:27 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

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Posted by DMcK

I think what happens sometimes is that because of the horrid history African Americans have faced, we as a society tend to be more sensitive to racist issues facing them. And in some ways, you really cannot argue that. African Americans face much more discrimination even now that most white people can even imagine. Not saying using white-racist words is okay, just maybe trying to see why they don't bleep out some words and do some othersChat Icon


i hear ya..

but in all honestly both words are just VILE...

and i do not understand why ANYONE would use them for entertainment purposes...

IMO some things just shouldn't be used



Oh, I totally agree... just trying to answer Lolita's original question... or whatever her name is now!Chat Icon

Posted 11/20/06 8:28 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

i just cannot understand why is it that a AA person can say the N word in comedy, in song and in general communication..

a AA can use the word cracker as well and it is deemed funny (as eroxgirl pointed out and i do rememeber the skits by Chris Rock)

BUT A WHITE person....well they are racist for every saying it .....EITHER of them


I personally think that NOBODY should be using such vile, demeaning words...And the fact that singers and comedians do sooo often is just sooo sad..

Posted 11/20/06 8:32 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

Posted by DMcK

I think what happens sometimes is that because of the horrid history African Americans have faced, we as a society tend to be more sensitive to racist issues facing them. And in some ways, you really cannot argue that. African Americans face much more discrimination even now that most white people can even imagine. Not saying using white-racist words is okay, just maybe trying to see why they don't bleep out some words and do some othersChat Icon



I find both words offensive and wrong
but what daniela wrote is why i think its "acceptable" too.

Like we have black and hispanic history months because we feel "oppressed" here

but if there was white history month, many would be against it bc "whites" already have "everything going right for them".

NOT WHAT I BELIEVE BUT WHAT I THINK MANY FEEL.

Posted 11/20/06 8:32 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

either way...no matter who was "oppressed" or not..

BOTH words are very racist terminology and shouldn't be used

Jess is right though...there is a double standard...

shame on the media..
shame on the artists, comedians and people who use such terms

shame on our society and our teens for emulating what they see

Posted 11/20/06 8:37 PM
 

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Re: Why is it okay to say the word "cracker"?

What about the word "honky"? Honky are cracker are similar to me, but honky seems to be a little more acceptable....

Posted 11/20/06 8:38 PM
 
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