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LIMOMx2
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How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
I know the kids are separated based on their screenings but how do they determine which teacher gets the "smart" kids and then the other kids?
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MrsYank
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
actually not all schools do this. I am not sure what district you are in- but they probably would not do this in Kindergarten. Unless- you are referring to a gifted program.
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| Posted 8/21/07 3:01 PM |
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LIMOMx2
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
Posted by MrsYank
actually not all schools do this. I am not sure what district you are in- but they probably would not do this in Kindergarten. Unless- you are referring to a gifted program.
I know they def do it in North Merrick for K and I am pretty sure for N Merrick.
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| Posted 8/21/07 3:04 PM |
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Karen
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
generally, there is an elementary teacher who has their "talented and gifted" teaching extension, in addition to their regular certification.
depending on the district, students are generally pulled out of their normal elementary classroom and spend time with this other teacher.
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| Posted 8/21/07 3:36 PM |
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mosh913
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
I teach K and all classes are heterogenously grouped (all ability levels). I don't know about your district, but my district doesn't have a "gifted" program for K. K is tricky because a lot of skills are developmental. I think it's hard to determine if a kid is "gifted" or just advanced.
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| Posted 8/21/07 5:21 PM |
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daisy
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
Posted by mosh913
I teach K and all classes are heterogenously grouped (all ability levels). I don't know about your district, but my district doesn't have a "gifted" program for K. K is tricky because a lot of skills are developmental. I think it's hard to determine if a kid is "gifted" or just advanced.
Ours is the same. I taught K and we always had mixed abilities.
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browneyedgirl
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
in your district, kids are split randomly. many districts have a K screening for potential behavior/academic/motor problems and can separate kids based on that so a class isn't stacked.
how do you know N. Merrick, etc does anything different? did you ask the district administrator, or just hear that from a parent?
BTW...i've been in 3 different districts and have never heard of a "gifted" kindergarten class. there are many "smart" children but few who are truly 'gifted'
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browneyedgirl
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
Posted by 5ofClubs
I know the kids are separated based on their screenings but how do they determine which teacher gets the "smart" kids and then the other kids?
also, the teacher in me cringes when you call "non-smart" kids "others"
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| Posted 8/21/07 6:14 PM |
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lilqtny
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
If that is how they are really seperating kids I am disgusted. How can they label a child in Kindergarten. Yes, there are always kids who stand out as being smart for their age, but I think it is horrible to label them at five years old. I certainly hope that this is an error and that they are all mixed in together. There is plenty of times to seperate the "smart kids" from the "others"    
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MrsYank
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
Posted by 5ofClubs
Posted by MrsYank
actually not all schools do this. I am not sure what district you are in- but they probably would not do this in Kindergarten. Unless- you are referring to a gifted program.
I know they def do it in North Merrick for K and I am pretty sure for N Merrick.
If you definately know, and this is in regard to your own child- I would call the principal and ask for an explanation.
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TeeDee09
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
Posted by browneyedgirl
Posted by 5ofClubs
I know the kids are separated based on their screenings but how do they determine which teacher gets the "smart" kids and then the other kids?
also, the teacher in me cringes when you call "non-smart" kids "others"
Yes i agree that made me cringe too.
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| Posted 8/21/07 7:50 PM |
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
I don't know how a school would even have reliable data to group kids at this point. I'm not an EC person, but we don't have universal pre-K, correct? How would a school know how to make such distinctions?
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LIMOMx2
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
This has nothing to do with my son. He is only 15 months.
But my bosses son went through a screening and when my boss asked the administration how they determine who gets what teacher, he said by the screening.
She was just curious how they chose the teachers for each class.
He is not gifted and they don't even know what level class he is in.
I was just curious how they chose the teachers. She will call them tomorrow and ask.
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
Posted by browneyedgirl
Posted by 5ofClubs
I know the kids are separated based on their screenings but how do they determine which teacher gets the "smart" kids and then the other kids?
also, the teacher in me cringes when you call "non-smart" kids "others"
I labeled it like that because I didn't feel like giving a run down on all the different levels.
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browneyedgirl
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
Posted by 5ofClubs
This has nothing to do with my son. He is only 15 months.
But my bosses son went through a screening and when my boss asked the administration how they determine who gets what teacher, he said by the screening.
She was just curious how they chose the teachers for each class.
He is not gifted and they don't even know what level class he is in.
I was just curious how they chose the teachers. She will call them tomorrow and ask.
your boss seems a little confused if this is the north merrick process you're talking about. she's right that it's determined by the screening, but that's only used to not stack a class. for example, you wouldn't put all the OT/PT/speech/etc students in one room, but would spread them out so that each class has a few of each. then the teachers are randomly assigned to each divided class. a screening is to help the child, sort of like an early intervention if none has been done before. they wouldn't put all the higher academic students in one room as well...everything in moderation! there are no levels of classes in public schools. (besides an obvious special ed setting)
just an FYI, by kindergarten, children progress at different rates. just because you come in reading, does not make you gifted, or even "smart"! it just means everyone else hasn't caught up with you yet. by first grade, most children can read. early reading/academics is not an indicator of "giftedness"
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browneyedgirl
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
Posted by 5ofClubs
Posted by browneyedgirl
Posted by 5ofClubs
I know the kids are separated based on their screenings but how do they determine which teacher gets the "smart" kids and then the other kids?
also, the teacher in me cringes when you call "non-smart" kids "others"
I labeled it like that because I didn't feel like giving a run down on all the different levels.
yes, but it is an inappropriate label. just like you don't call a kid an "autistic kid", you don't call them "smart" and "others". people on these boards are VERY sensitive, and when it comes to anything teacher related, teachers would like to see appropriate terminology when speaking about children. or, at least, sensitive terminology
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| Posted 8/21/07 8:39 PM |
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LIMOMx2
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
I do think this is getting very carried away as usual. I will end this now.
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
Posted by browneyedgirl
Posted by 5ofClubs
I know the kids are separated based on their screenings but how do they determine which teacher gets the "smart" kids and then the other kids?
also, the teacher in me cringes when you call "non-smart" kids "others"
yea...
gifted and talented -->
the special ed. teacher in me cringes.
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| Posted 8/21/07 9:49 PM |
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jes81276
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
Posted by 5ofClubs
I know the kids are separated based on their screenings but how do they determine which teacher gets the "smart" kids and then the other kids?
My district doesn't do this - never heard of it.
The classes are split evenly
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| Posted 8/21/07 10:27 PM |
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SupportACop
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Re: How do they determine who teaches the "smarter" kids in K?
I teach Dual language, first grade, and I know it is supposed to be a "brighter" class BUT last year they mixed them however they wanted to make it fair..well I know some children could not handle switching for math, they get math lessons in Spanish, then my English students switch for Spanish lessons...the children that have trouble have it even worse when they need to switch classes in first grade. I know this year it went back to being very selected classes. I have no trouble having a mixed group but you see the kids who have difficulty staying on task in an English only classroom then you see him switch for math and the kids head is spinnning I feel bad but I guess it has to be weeded out
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