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ChilisWife
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Questions for HR professionals...
Why is it that some companies won't even consider you for a job, if you were making more at your previous job than the new job pays? I am having a big problem with companies telling me that I make "too much money" (and it's not even a lot of money) and that the offered job pays less so they won't even interview me. What if I am willing to take a pay cut (which I am)? This frustrates the @*#&$^% out of me!!!
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Domino
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Re: Questions for HR professionals...
Here's the logic. The way hiring people think is that you are settling and that you are just taking this job because there is nothing and that if they do hire you it would only be temporary for you until you find somthing that pays what you were making at your last job. My boss always asks in the interview what they are looking to make. If it is not close to the salary range he's looking for he wont even consider hiring them.
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| Posted 10/29/07 10:10 AM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Questions for HR professionals...
Posted by Domino
Here's the logic. The way hiring people think is that you are settling and that you are just taking this job because there is nothing and that if they do hire you it would only be temporary for you until you find somthing that pays what you were making at your last job. My boss always asks in the interview what they are looking to make. If it is not close to the salary range he's looking for he wont even consider hiring them.
I'm not in HR but this makes sense to me.
for example, if you were making $80K at your last job, and the job you submitted an application for pays $50K, they know you will keep looking for something comperable to what you were earning after they hire you.
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ChilisWife
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Re: Questions for HR professionals...
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Domino
Here's the logic. The way hiring people think is that you are settling and that you are just taking this job because there is nothing and that if they do hire you it would only be temporary for you until you find somthing that pays what you were making at your last job. My boss always asks in the interview what they are looking to make. If it is not close to the salary range he's looking for he wont even consider hiring them.
I'm not in HR but this makes sense to me.
for example, if you were making $80K at your last job, and the job you submitted an application for pays $50K, they know you will keep looking for something comperable to what you were earning after they hire you.
Yes, I get it, but there are exceptions. For me, my former job was paying me a lot more than my experience dictated - yes, lucky for me (at the time), but now it is working against me. Plus, sometimes circumstances change - maybe I would rather make less and not commute to NYC. Or maybe my DH is making more now to compensate. There have been jobs that I really wanted and would have had no intention of going there and continuing to look for something else. But I guess there is no way of making them believe that.
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| Posted 10/29/07 1:08 PM |
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wilandnet
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Re: Questions for HR professionals...
As someone in HR, I agree with Domino 100%. That is the rationale.
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| Posted 10/29/07 1:09 PM |
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smdl
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Re: Questions for HR professionals...
Not in HR but can tell you that is actually "discremination". They cannot assume your reasoning and current salary have anything to do with the job you applied.
I used to be the assistant of a HR manager of a company. I was sorting through a bunch of resumes to hire an assistant for me. I saw a bunch that I liked but found some of them OVER qualified. I thought I would waste our time and applicant time to interview them. I shared my thoughts with the HR manager. He told me we at least HAD TO interview them since they were qualified and it was NOT up to us to figure out why they would apply for a entry job with their qualifications. He did not want a discremination lawsuit against us if they found out we had hired someone else less qualified for the job without interviewing them.
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| Posted 10/29/07 1:38 PM |
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ChilisWife
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Re: Questions for HR professionals...
Posted by smdl
Not in HR but can tell you that is actually "discremination". They cannot assume your reasoning and current salary have anything to do with the job you applied.
I used to be the assistant of a HR manager of a company. I was sorting through a bunch of resumes to hire an assistant for me. I saw a bunch that I liked but found some of them OVER qualified. I thought I would waste our time and applicant time to interview them. I shared my thoughts with the HR manager. He told me we at least HAD TO interview them since they were qualified and it was NOT up to us to figure out why they would apply for a entry job with their qualifications. He did not want a discremination lawsuit against us if they found out we had hired someone else less qualified for the job without interviewing them.
Well exactly, WHY would I even apply for the job if I didn't want to interview. People take jobs for all different sorts of reasons. It just aggravates me 
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| Posted 10/29/07 5:10 PM |
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Daddy212
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Re: Questions for HR professionals...
If I am conducting interviews for a position that pays 50k and I get, let's say, 100 resumes, I'm going to have to do some weeding out.
If someone is currently making twice that amount I'll make sure that I know they won't want to jump ship in 2 months when they get a better-paying job.
In addition, overqualification is just as bad as underqualification (and has nothing, I repeat NOTHING, to do with discrimination). I wouldn't hire someone with 10 years of marketing experience for an entry-level marketing job, even if they applied. Why? They would be bored off their a$$ and would be out looking for a new job before I knew it, and I'd have to fill the position again.
I know - long winded answer. I wouldn't automacally rule out someone who was making more money as long as the qualifications matched, but I would make sure in the very beginning that they had a good reason for wanting to take a pay cut.
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| Posted 10/31/07 10:37 AM |
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ChilisWife
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Re: Questions for HR professionals...
Posted by Daddy212
If I am conducting interviews for a position that pays 50k and I get, let's say, 100 resumes, I'm going to have to do some weeding out.
If someone is currently making twice that amount I'll make sure that I know they won't want to jump ship in 2 months when they get a better-paying job.
In addition, overqualification is just as bad as underqualification (and has nothing, I repeat NOTHING, to do with discrimination). I wouldn't hire someone with 10 years of marketing experience for an entry-level marketing job, even if they applied. Why? They would be bored off their a$$ and would be out looking for a new job before I knew it, and I'd have to fill the position again.
I know - long winded answer. I wouldn't automacally rule out someone who was making more money as long as the qualifications matched, but I would make sure in the very beginning that they had a good reason for wanting to take a pay cut.
Thanks. It makes sense. But, HOW am I supposed to communicate to the person reviewing resumes that my intentions are genuine? I DO have good reasons for taking a pay cut. There are jobs I would really like, and I almost want to lie on my resume to downplay my experience.
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| Posted 10/31/07 10:54 AM |
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Daddy212
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Re: Questions for HR professionals...
Put it all in a well worded, concise cover letter.
If you know that you're looking at positions that pay less than you are making, or that are a "step back" experience-wise, make sure that you address that in the letter and convince whomever is reading it that you mean business.
Then cross your fingers and hope they bought it!
If you want to run a letter by me, I'm more than happy to take a look and give my feedback.
FM me if you're interested.
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| Posted 10/31/07 12:31 PM |
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ChilisWife
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Re: Questions for HR professionals...
Thank you Daddy212.
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