School Violence - need quick feedback from teachers!

Im doing a paper on Violence in the schools.

For part of it, I have to list 2-3 events that occurred, what the consequences were and whether or not I agree with them.

I really cant think of anything that Ive been exposed to myself that was violent, and cant think of any recent stories, esp that I would know details about (like what discipline was used - suspension, expulsion, etc.) or no consequences, etc.

Ifyou can give me brief stories that would be SO great. !
thanks !

just mention age, grade, act of violence and what was done. you can be brief and choppy if its too much to type


thanks!

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you have FM

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i dont' have anything that sticks out for me, but i think you could probably think more broadly about school violence.... yes, it's guns and knives and gangs... but things like cyber-bullying, teasing, etc. can all be considered violent, especially depending on how the victim reacted. GOOD LUCK!

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thanks for the feedback ladies!

I had one story to share, but dont quote it, because I will remove it for privacy reasons of the person it happened to, since it's specific things I will mention.

but a teacher I know, blonde hair, blue eyes, teaches middle school, was teaching in a "rough" area at the time,
I dont know the details leading to this, but she is the most caring and non-confrontational person EVER. well some of her students began to call her "hey nicole, hey nicole" in the halls, well thats NOT her name what did they mean by it then? well one of them one day said "im gonna do to you what OJ did to nicole"
again I only know bits and pieces of this.
but long story short a few teachers "felt their lives were being threatened." it was all (this and a few other stories) went to court (or whatever higher authority for the schools) and the teachers were pretty much NOT taken seriously. one lady (court official or whoever professional person) said "WHY, What DID OJ do to Nicole ? what are you trying to say? OJ didnt do ANYTHING TO HER" and things like "teachers like this are a disgrace" etc.
can you imagine ??????????????

thankfully she's not in that district anymore. and of course the students "got off" as if the teachers were the ones that were lunatics and overreacting.
this did scare the crap out of her and made her leave the district. she's very happy now in a great district..

just thought id share.
but I will remove this story tonight or tomorrow.

what a crazy world we live in. even teachers cant go to work and feel safe.

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OMG- its all thats on the news down here in Maryland.

The Baltimore Public School system is pretty bad:

Art teacher assaulted

There was also reports recently of a bunch of third graders in Georgia who were planning to kill their teacher.

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thanks amy

she wants us, in addition to giving an opinion/review of a big school-news one, to give examples of first hand incidents or as close to first hand as possible. I guess Im lucky to not have any first hand answers.

what a scary world !

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Ah- thought you meant "known" incidents. It IS scary.
When I first heard of NCLB, I thought "What a great thing!" I've since learned that by far, NCLB is the worst idea ever when dealing with high risk schools like many of the ones in Baltimore City. SO MANY assaults go unreported for fear of being marked as a "dangerous school".

Thankfully for me, I am in another county and an elementary school.

You should fm Epeebees- she had some crazy stories......

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Here's one for you Anna,

When I was pregnant with my daughter in 05 I was threatened by a student.

This student was classified as LD. He had tourette's (in the form of tics) and some other issues. I personally think that he was MI but since his father used to be on the school board of my district everyone was afraid of him and he said there was nothing wrong with his child so there was no psych profile done on him .

Anyways he was very sexual and was not allowed to be in health class. So my first meeting with him was when he was assigned to my study hall. He used to call his RR teacher a C_ _ T and other words. He used the word Pu__ _ y quite often. He would ask me questions that were about decapitating people and coring them. He would draw pictures that were bloody and disgusting to say the least.

I approached the school psychologist several times but it was always ignored because o the father.

The boy had a one on one. Well that one on one became pregnant and in gym class he decided to throw a racket at her stomach, not once but every day for a week. She was removed as his TA.

Later that year his math teacher became pregnant, he constantly kept approaching her and trying to touch her stomach. This is a 7th grader not a 7 year old. A 7th grader understands you don't touch your teachers. He told her once he wanted to squeeze the baby out of her.

Fast forward to the next year. I am on hall duty and every day have to deal with child misbehaving in the hallway. One day he meets up with the school bully in the bathroom. He starts with this child. This child was well over 6 foot with a huge history of violence. The bully is coming out of the bathroom and the other child is going to go in. I hear him yell at the bully your mother is a who_ _!! I hear bully yell at him, what did you say? I see the bully (Let's call him A) start to puff up. I yell down the hallway as I start to get up, A come here now. (for whatever reason I have always had an excellent rapport with him) He say but senora did you hear what he said. I said I did but come here to me now. I said A again walk away. A starts to comply and walks towards me. The other child (Let's call him M) starts to follow behind him yelling sexually perverse things about this boy's mother. A is torn you can see it; respect me and come to me or beat the crap out of M! I said A ignore him it's not worth it. I start yelling at M to go away and I get the nearest teacher to get the dean because should a fight start I was too pregnant to deal with this. The dean comes down and takes M to the office. I tell A you did the right thing, as hard as it might have been and that I will make sure the dean knows you did NOTHING wrong and you were the victim.

I go to the deans office talk to the dean and fill out the paperwork and then talk to the dean again. I then go out to the hallway and I am talking to another teacher. M walks up to me and says senora, don't worry I will be back to kill you and your baby, your baby will never be born.

I ignore him and turn and march right into the principals office. I tell him I am not dealing with this etc. I basically tell him the child goes or me. The principal was a first year principal and is afraid of the father so he does nothing. This child continues to threaten me. I am told that he will have to be escorted from every where he goes. (This never happens) I was removed from hall duty and put into a study hall. Child still manages to find me in the halls and threatens me. I go the union and the principal. The principal continues to do nothing and the union president advises me to go the police, which I do. The police file the necessary paper work and the parents are called. The police ream out the principal and the parents maintain that is was all a joke.

I leave on maternity leave a few weeks later. The student then is involved with several physically violent acts on other students.
The following Sept. he starts at the 9th grade center, and goes after a pregnant teacher again. Child is now removed from district permanently.

That is the history of M.

If you want to use that story and need more explanation let me know.

Hope you can follow that long winded tale.

Keep in mind that the requirements for disciplining a child with special needs is different than a child that does not have special needs.

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Jamie

Im just


SPEECHLESS

I cant even begin.
WOW.

Im so sorry you had to go through all that. I cant imagine someone saying that to a pregnant woman

Thanks sooooooo much ! I will use that story also.

ETA: And yes, I recently learned that discipline is different which makes me just because a child has special needs. (I guess this can be debated, but in moments like this, to that )

Message edited 4/26/2008 11:31:16 PM.

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Posted by anna

Im just


SPEECHLESS

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I have been pretty lucky that I have never really witnessed violence - even in NYC (I heard of it, but never felt threatened or saw it first hand)

The only close to experience is a 3rd grader was swinging his arms around me - I was pregnant. I only saw him 40 minutes a week during special area. I told his teacher and she had him write an apology to me. He ended up moving about 1 month later, so I can't say how it turned out.

The second experience was a 1st grader. He was making sexual gestures (yes, this is a 6/7 year old - but he has older brothers) towards another student, I pulled him aside to tell him it was inappropriate and after I went to another group, he jumped on my back - but it was more in a "please don't get me in trouble" plea. I spoke to his teacher and then to the school psychologist. He is just in the beginning part of being evaluated now. I will say, that I had seen him eating lunch with the principal quite a few times, so the principal is doing something about it. But this fall, teachers and aides may not take away recess time, b/c they want to make sure kids get the exercise and use up extra energy - that may be from the district though (they have a new eating policy as well).

Sorry I can't be more specific on actions - being special area makes it a bit harder to see end results.

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Posted by Jamie

Funny thing with A-- I brought D to school on the last day of classes because I promised the kids I would. I happen to stupidly be in the halls as the bells rang and I ran into A and he starts yelling EVERYONE GET OUT OF THE WAY SENORA IS COMING THROUGH WITH HER BABY!!

It was so cute.