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Advantages of PMI?
I've been reading all the recent posts on 80/10/10, 80/20 and 80/15/5 loans and the tax advantages seem clear. So, can you tell me what the PMI advantages are - why someone would choose that option over the others?
Message edited 5/26/2005 10:28:06 AM.
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Posted 5/26/05 10:28 AM |
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
I would imagine that if you are close to 20% but just can't scrape it together, PMI would be less money each month. Then you could refinance and get rid of it once you had some equity in the house.
Our PMI would have only been about $93 a month but we chose the 80/10/10 route (in our case, it was 80/12/8).
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Posted 5/26/05 10:32 AM |
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MsG
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
If you get a great 30 year fixed rate and think it will be a loooong time or never for you to see those rates again, then you may want to pay the PMI for a couple of years.
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Posted 5/26/05 10:34 AM |
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jms100303
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
I am not sure of the advantages of PMI, but I do know that the 80/10/10 has gained more popularity recently. I hadn't heard of it before the last two years.
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Posted 5/26/05 10:35 AM |
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jms100303
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
Oh the one thing I did remember hearing is that if you elect the PMI option and then have your house appraised and it is 20% more you won't have to pay PMI any longer. I have heard that some houses can do that in a year. So that might be worth it.
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Posted 5/26/05 10:46 AM |
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CookiePuss
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
There aren't any real advantages to the lendee to have PMI. PMI is insurance that banks take you to protect themselves against your failure to pay the loan. So, basically, you are paying an insurance premium for the bank so the bank is insured to get their money back. It offers the homeowners ( lendee) no protection whatsoever. 80/10/10 mortgages are fairly new and I'm not all that familiar with them but for what I have read, it is basically 3 mortgages against the house. You have to be careful because the home equity portions, the 10/10, are usually variable and rate will increase as prime increases. The 80/10/10 mortgages have been created to help homeowners afford much bigger mortgages then they would have been able to afford with traditional mortgages.
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Posted 5/26/05 11:34 AM |
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MrsD
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
Posted by MrsProfessor
I would imagine that if you are close to 20% but just can't scrape it together, PMI would be less money each month. Then you could refinance and get rid of it once you had some equity in the house.
You don't need to refinance to get rid of PMI. Once your LTV is 80%, you stop paying it.
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Posted 5/26/05 11:59 AM |
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CookiePuss
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
Posted by MrsD
Posted by MrsProfessor
I would imagine that if you are close to 20% but just can't scrape it together, PMI would be less money each month. Then you could refinance and get rid of it once you had some equity in the house.
You don't need to refinance to get rid of PMI. Once your LTV is 80%, you stop paying it.
Depending on what type of mortgage you have, I believe you do have to refinance to get rid of PMI, regardless of the market value. I actually believe that you have to pay PMI until the original mortgage payments have exceeded 20% of the original borrowed excluding interest. PMI doesn't just end because the property value is assessed higher. That is a common mistake.
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Posted 5/26/05 12:17 PM |
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MrsD
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
Posted by shamrock12472
Posted by MrsD
Posted by MrsProfessor
I would imagine that if you are close to 20% but just can't scrape it together, PMI would be less money each month. Then you could refinance and get rid of it once you had some equity in the house.
You don't need to refinance to get rid of PMI. Once your LTV is 80%, you stop paying it.
Depending on what type of mortgage you have, I believe you do have to refinance to get rid of PMI, regardless of the market value. I actually believe that you have to pay PMI until the original mortgage payments have exceeded 20% of the original borrowed excluding interest. PMI doesn't just end because the property value is assessed higher. That is a common mistake.
we were paying PMI, and made a large payment to reach 80% LTV and we no longer pay it. we didn't have our property reassesed, though.
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Posted 5/26/05 1:45 PM |
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Erica
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
I thought i heard PMI was a minimum of 2 years before it was taken off?
We didn't do this though, so I could be totaly off, but worth asking your bank (maybe some banks do )
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DebG
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
Posted by jms100303
Oh the one thing I did remember hearing is that if you elect the PMI option and then have your house appraised and it is 20% more you won't have to pay PMI any longer. I have heard that some houses can do that in a year. So that might be worth it.
thats what we did, although it took two years for it to appraise high enouph
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christy
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
Posted by DebG
Posted by jms100303
Oh the one thing I did remember hearing is that if you elect the PMI option and then have your house appraised and it is 20% more you won't have to pay PMI any longer. I have heard that some houses can do that in a year. So that might be worth it.
thats what we did, although it took two years for it to appraise high enouph
We are about to reappraise to get out of ours now too.
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Posted 5/28/05 5:35 PM |
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BethGail
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
also the lender has to take it off whne you reach 22% BUT you can call and have it canceled on your own at 20% (i guess this is just a way for them to make a little extra money UGH!!!)
but i think we are going the piggy back route to alleviate it...we are also looking at ARMS over 30 year fixed because we dont anticipate being in our place (when we even find one) forever...esp sinc ewe are looking at townhomes (that is all we can get as a starter home her in MD...well lets be real starter homes dont exist anymore....)
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Posted 5/28/05 6:50 PM |
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Erica
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Re: Advantages of PMI?
just saw this topic on Suze Orman this weekend...
she said piggy backs are a waste of money. what you should do is get a single file mortgage, where you can combine the PMI total cost (1% of the mortgage) into the total mortgage. and then it is tax deductable.
the example she used:
500K mortgage 1% PMI 5K
total mortgage 505K at 6% over 30 years - adds $27/month
of course this is something that you have to look into with your specifics.
she also mentioned borrowing from your 401K, since its for a down payment, you have 30 years to pay that back too.
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