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heathergirl
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Re: Is having children a choice or a right
I believe it a choice. I have the right to bear arms, but I choose not to. Same idea for me and kids. I am barely even contemplating TTC in like 2 years...thats how CF I really am.
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heathergirl
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Re: Is having children a choice or a right
Posted by jilliibabii
Posted by IrishLass
Sorry to be so harsh, but I have also encountered in previous work environments that certain parents thought they were entitled to things because they had kids and others didn't ( leaving work early/preferred vacation weeks/days off, more $, etc.).
Ding ding ding! It's automatically assumed in my office that if someone is out, I will be staying late since I don't have children I must not have anything else important to do. I must not want to go home on time and enjoy an evening with my DH or even alone. 
I absolutely agree with this too. And I understand that there are emergencies and I respect and appreciate the parents in my dept., but it doesn't make me or my time or life any less valuable.
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| Posted 12/1/10 8:27 PM |
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MrsPJB2007
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Re: Is having children a choice or a right
Posted by rightasrain
well yeah, if someone actually says those words to my face i would tell them to go screw.
but if they didn't, i think their words should be taken with a grain of salt because i would probably be projecting or sincerely misinterpreting their p.o.v.
if i had a kid who was sick and couldn't go to school, i would only be concerned with missing work to stay home and care for them. that doesn't mean i think my time is more important than anyone elses or that you should feel bad for me.
But the OP was saying that someone DID say that to them essentially -- that someone told them 'hey you don't have kids, you should volunteer for a pay freeze so I can get a raise."
Staying home for a sick kid is one thing...but constantly expecting CF people to stay late and handle your workload and sacrifice time because they don't have kids, is what the central issue the OP was trying to relay, as well as other posters.
That because you don't have a child, you should automatically be the one to stay late since it's not like you have anything to do anyway.....or hey you should take the pay freeze since I should get more than you anyway.
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| Posted 12/1/10 8:36 PM |
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justbeachy
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Re: Is having children a choice or a right
I'm a teacher and 'the (supposed) next one to have a kid' in our school. Which is definitely not happening.
In any case, I was told that I HAD to do after school club because 'so and so' couldn't stay after school because they have a child they have to get home to.
I'm just really sick and tired of hearing it.
REALLY sick of it.
Everyday she says, "Well, I'm not staying late! I have a childddddddddd."
I'm just going to start saying "I can't stay late. I have a doggggggggg."
Message edited 12/1/2010 9:43:55 PM.
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Cheeks24
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Re: Is having children a choice or a right
I think it's a choice. You choose whether you want to take that step to become a parent.
I seriously would have slapped that woman and told her to go to hell. Did she forget that she gets more back in taxes than you because she has said children? Azzhole.
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| Posted 12/1/10 10:39 PM |
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heathergirl
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Re: Is having children a choice or a right
Posted by SupaBonBon
I'm a teacher and 'the (supposed) next one to have a kid' in our school. Which is definitely not happening.
In any case, I was told that I HAD to do after school club because 'so and so' couldn't stay after school because they have a child they have to get home to.
I'm just really sick and tired of hearing it.
REALLY sick of it.
Everyday she says, "Well, I'm not staying late! I have a childddddddddd."
I'm just going to start saying "I can't stay late. I have a doggggggggg."
I hear ya. Luckily, no one in my dept. pulls stunts like that, but there is one person who continually, IMO, uses her children as excuses for getting out work. Maybe there are times when she legitimately has to leave early, they're sick, etc...but it is highly suspect to me, especially since she has a track record of pulling stunts like that to get out of work, and I believe she pulls the "mom" card way more than it is real or necessary.
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| Posted 12/1/10 10:39 PM |
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PrincessVonTrockel
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Re: Is having children a choice or a right
Posted by SupaBonBon
I'm a teacher and 'the (supposed) next one to have a kid' in our school. Which is definitely not happening.
In any case, I was told that I HAD to do after school club because 'so and so' couldn't stay after school because they have a child they have to get home to.
I'm just really sick and tired of hearing it.
REALLY sick of it.
Everyday she says, "Well, I'm not staying late! I have a childddddddddd."
I'm just going to start saying "I can't stay late. I have a doggggggggg."
I would put together a formal complaint about this. THAT IS SOOOOO NOT FAIR!
 I'm angry for you.
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| Posted 12/1/10 11:12 PM |
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MissJones
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Re: Is having children a choice or a right
I think it's a little bit of both. It used to be a right as in an obligation to continue the species. In today's times, however, I think we're good in that department so it has changed to more of a choice. We are the only species that CHOOSES WHEN we want to procreate. We can make a conscious decision to do it. Hence, it has become more of a choice.
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IrishLasss334
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Re: Is having children a choice or a right
Posted by SupaBonBon
I'm a teacher and 'the (supposed) next one to have a kid' in our school. Which is definitely not happening.
In any case, I was told that I HAD to do after school club because 'so and so' couldn't stay after school because they have a child they have to get home to.
I'm just really sick and tired of hearing it.
REALLY sick of it.
Everyday she says, "Well, I'm not staying late! I have a childddddddddd."
I'm just going to start saying "I can't stay late. I have a doggggggggg."
Where I work now, is not an issue, no one here has children and they aren't going to (it's a small office). I would make a complaint, or at the very least, pull her aside and give her a "I don't know if you realize how often you say this but you say "X" frequently. It is true, I don't have children, how do you know I CAN'T have children and you are being very insensitive. Moreover, just becuase I haven't given birth doesn't make my life less important than yours." Or I would make a complaint, the moment they hear "discrimination" it will stop.
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