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This can be very opinioned conversation- SORRY in advance
but I am desperate not LAZY!!!

I am on night 3 of CIO- I cant deal (LO is 6 months)

I am so not even kidding!
It is so Heart breaking, he is such a happy and now he is miserable, tired and cranky
I hate seeing him this way
I am waiting for my neighbors to call CPS lol

He screams, chokes, gags all the above- for like min 3 hours at a time before he falls back asleep
last night he slept maybe 5 hours total, and now sleeping at daycare as we speak
Anyway......

does this exist?
A night nanny?
someone who can assist me with the CIO - sleep training coach or nanny to come to by apt and help me out
I am on 7 hour sleep total from the weekend and my DH works overnights so I am doing this alone
I am emotional and beyond zombie now
I am afraid I will give in, but I cant watch this anymore

TIA

UPDATE 1:
Maybe we getting somewhere
He has been sleeping in his crib the entire night since Saturday night- not literally sleeping but I am not taking him out

Each night his sleep lengths are longer and cry time is shorter

This is a very hard dreadful way (I'm a zombie) but maybe I am getting somewhere with him
Slowly but it's working

UPDATE2:
so last night he slept straight from his bedtime 8PM until 2 am. Once 2 am hit it was down hill till 4 am.

I was not able to calm him down... Screaming, i rubbed him, paci, even rocked him
once i calmed him down at 4, he was back asleep

Message edited 10/23/2014 9:27:47 AM.

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i cant answer your question but wanted to send you hugs it is so tough to do and i hope someone out there can give you a reference for night help

but it also sounds like your LO may not be ready for CIO. When i did it with DD at first she would get hysterical like that and after 1 night i gave in and stopped trying. i waited another month and CIO was much easier...25 mins of crying the first night, 20 the next and about 10 the following. i know its not what you want to hear but maybe your LO isnt ready bc 3 hours has to be heartbreaking and I dont know how you did it

eta - i just looked in my notebook on here...a lot of people recommend Rebecca
they say she is a vendor on here but im not sure what company

Message edited 10/20/2014 11:46:05 AM.

does this exist???

Sleep coaches do exist ... but I don't think they come to your house overnight. I'm not sure how much it would help to have them there either way, to be honest - you'd still have to hear LO crying. You might be able to hire a nurse or something, not sure.

Good luck - the crying is awful but just think of the end result.

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I think I remember seeing something like this on the news once. It is really hard. Hugs. Dreamteambaby.com

Found it.

Message edited 10/20/2014 10:36:18 AM.

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I will start by saying that's am completely biased against sleep training/ CIO for a variety of reasons, BUT it does seem like some kids are able to cry for a very short times for a couple of nights and be okay. However, it doesn't seem like your baby is that type of kid so I wonder if this is the right method. Have you looked into the no cry sleep solution book ? I have several friends who don't believe in CIO who used it with good results. Do some research on gentle alternatives to sleep training. Putting my biases aside, common sense would indicate that if you are this distressed, your baby is terribly distressed AND you aren't getting the results you want it is time for something new. ETA : I don't know if this is your situation, but if anyone is pressuring you into this because it is " time your baby learns how to sleep ", please understand that developmentally many babies are not ready / able to sleep for long stretches until they are much older. This is completely normal ! It might suck for the family,but it is normal ! I was this baby. I didn't sleep through night until I was 2. According to my mom, I needed extra comfort and attention at night for a long while. Guess what , as an adult I have never had a problem falling asleep or staying asleep. Even in times of intense stress. I am putting this out there to illustrate that every child is different and babies don't always sleep in a cookie cutter way.

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I did CIO. IT wasn't easy on my by any means and the first night DS cried for hours. IT got better after that. But once we did CIO he became the best sleeper (we still had bad night if there was teething or sick or something like that involved).

You really have to be tuned into their cry because you want to make sure they are not crying for a legit reason.....and yes you will be able to tell.

I would try a modified version if its not working right now. I know someone on here posted their modified version a while back.

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I would either try a modified version of CIO or just wait until he is a little older. We also did CIO this weekend and the longest DS cried was 20-30 minutes. By last night, he was crying 5-10 minutes each time he woke up. I honestly could not listen to him cry for hours.

Can maybe one of your parents come over and help just for a night or two so you can get some rest?

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yes Sleep Coach
Rebecca Kammerer
Sleep Cadets, Inc.
77 Jericho, Turnpike
Mineola, NY 11501
(917) 862-7644
www.SleepCadets.com

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I had a sleep coach when my twins were babies. FM me for the ladies info if you want. She was based in the city. She came to our home in Queens to meet us initially and we continued the training over the phone. I think she does do in home training as well. Good luck!

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I created a bad habit with my son. I would rock him to sleep in his stroller then move him into the crib.

CIO didn't work for us when we tried getting him to fall asleep in his crib. What did work was that I bought one of those stuffed animal night lights that project onto the ceiling. That created a new environment for him so he didn't freak out from the start. I also would lay down on the floor next to the crib. Whenever he would start whining I would just say shhhhh Mommy is here. We did that for weeks and a lot of times I ended up falling asleep on the floor. He eventually waved good bye when we put him in the crib and we stopped laying on the floor.

Good luck. It'll get better.

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Thanks, atleast i see i am NOT alone
i felt like such a bad mom

i think i am going to sleep in his room
tonight- camp out in the rocking chair or the floor

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I had twins and they also slept in rockers until they were about 5 months old. One of the tips that worked I feel, was to warm the crib sheet with a heating pad before putting the baby in. Then after you put them in, rub their back and shh shhh. Then slowly and quietly back out of the room. If they cry again, come back in the room but do not pick up and just soothe. Try to make the time when you come back longer and longer

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Two things I might try.....

I can you elevate the matress in the crib slightly so that it has more of an angle like the RNP?

Second - invest in a video monitor. You can change the settings so that a red light flashes when the baby is crying but can put the sound all the way down. Maybe this will sound mean to some - but for me, it lets you know the baby is safe, but still crying/upset even if you can't hear the crying. I find it less upsetting than hearing the baby cry. Then when you go back in the room a little while later - you are less upset/worked up - I swear the baby will know that you are less upset and that is calming from them.



Good luck - I know there are a lot of ways to do things and not getting any sleep is the WORST.


ETA - You are not a bad mom and you shouldn't feel that way.

Message edited 10/20/2014 4:54:01 PM.

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Def DONT feel like a bad mom we all go through different types of sleep issues... Its all about finding what works for you and your baby... Personally, CIO was not for me. My dd was the type to just keep crying for HOURS to the point she was making herself sick and I could not take it. I felt she just wasn't ready and I just wasn't either.

Instead this is what I did for the transition from RNP to crib.
At 6 months I took the pack n play, which has the bassinet attachment, and put that next to me. I did that for 2 weeks. Then I put the pack n play in her room for 2 weeks. Then I transferred her to her crib.
For 6 months she was used to sleeping on an angle next to me. Now shes in this space with a ton of room, able to roll around and shes probably freaked. So I did slowly.
1st night sucked she woke up about every 2-3 hours. but each night got better and she slept for longer periods of time until she sttn, in the pack n play.
First I got her used to having space then I got her used to sleeping away from me.

if you go ahead with CIO he may just not be ready. My friend did CIO, tried at 6 months and her dd cried so hard she threw up all over. She stopped. Tried again at 7 months and had success with it. She said it was heartbreaking, but it worked.
To each is own. As I said do what works best for you, but maybe hes just not ready. Or maybe he needs a slower transition. Think about everything that is being thrown at him at once. =) Good luck!

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Is he def not hungry? Teething? Night terror

Is there a way to tell his cries. Like a hungry cry from a sad cry

Maybe I'm just crazy bc my son didn't sttn till he was a ur old and my daughter will be 2 next month and has never sttn

I think some kids need longer,or need that rocking to go to sleep,or are just bad sleepers. My daughter is one

I am not anti CIO our all. I thinking works great for some kids. But some I also don't think it does

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At 6 months he shouldn't be crying for hours. If you're positive he doesnt need anything then I would either try another method or give in for now and try again with CIO in a few months. If a child is going to respond well to CIO they will do it in much shorter time than hours. Hang in there and just remember this too shall pass.

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It sounds like you son is not ready for cry it out. Have you tried the pick up/put down method. I started this recently with my seven month old daughter and it works for us.

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Maybe we getting somewhere
He has been sleeping in his crib the entire night since Saturday night- not literally sleeping but I am not taking him out

Each night his sleep lengths are longer and cry time is shorter

This is a very hard dreadful way (I'm a zombie) but maybe I am getting somewhere with him
Slowly but it's working

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I know this isn't exactly what you said you are looking for, but this book really helped us with my older DS who was a horrible sleeper:
http://www.amazon.com/Healthy-Sleep-Habits-Happy-Child/dp/0449004023