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july4mrsO
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
My niece has leukemia and our family held a fundraiser for her. The winner of the 50/50 raffle was generous enough to give back $1,000 out of the $3,000 he won to the family. Nobody expected it but it was incredibly generous. Before that, I never would have thought about it.
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Posted 10/26/11 7:57 AM |
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LeShellem
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by Jennie0898
I have to say, I'm actually surprised that more people aren't jumping in to defend the idea of "selfless charitable giving".
I guess that just goes to show that I don't understand people at all - or at least not the ones on LIF. I would have thought it was MORE offensive to admit that you are only participating in the raffle in hopes of making some money. I obviously know nothing.
Just one example, people at my church were trying to get people to buy tickets for a 50/50 raffle. The turn out to date was low. Someone stated that it would be good to buy a ticket as your chances of winning would be higher. I may be wrong but it sounded like the incentive to buy a ticket would be to win. Yes the church could use the money, but that was why they were selling tickets in the first place.
In most places winning is the incentive to purchasing the ticket. And maybe if you are paying 1000 a plate winning wouldn't be the incentive, but for your regular run of the mill 50/50 where the winnings is under 10,000 I truly believe people play to win. Playing to lose or playing to pretend to win just doesn't sound fun.
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Posted 10/26/11 8:17 AM |
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JRG71
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by Jennie0898
I have to say, I'm actually surprised that more people aren't jumping in to defend the idea of "selfless charitable giving".
ITA
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Posted 10/26/11 8:39 AM |
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emilylives
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by JRG71
Posted by Jennie0898
I have to say, I'm actually surprised that more people aren't jumping in to defend the idea of "selfless charitable giving".
ITA
I don't think anyone has a problem with selfless charitable giving. They'd just rather not do it under the guise of a game of chance.
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Posted 10/26/11 8:41 AM |
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maybebaby
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Name: Maureen
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by maybebaby
I didn't ever really think about this before this post...
I can honestly say that if were at a charity event with tons of raffles/prizes etc and won the 50/50 I would have taken the money and not really though much about it!! And that isn't out of selfishness, I would think that most events like that do the raffles as just an extra way to make money for the person or organization.
Think about it...there are always tons of prizes and raffles at these things. Gift cards, gift baskets, tv's etc...people don't ever give those things back...they are usually donated by an organization and doesn't come out of the pocket of the charity or person its benefitting...same with the 50/50....the entire amount collected gets divided..so the charity is still gaining 50% of the money so why shouldn't the person who won keep their portion??
I will think differently about that from now on and if i were to win i'd prob now ask to give it back to the charity...but i would never think badly of someone who kept their winnings...
Just so you're aware, the stuff that's given away or auctioned off by the charity, is donated to the charity for the sake of the auction to begin with.
Again, these are all ways of fund raising for the organization. It would be counter productive for a charity to go out and buy stuff to give away for free. KWIM?
I know...that is why I wrote "they are usually donated".
And as for the 50/50...I don't know..I mean people usually purchase tickets for attending events to begin with, then they purchase tickets as well to enter a 50/50.
The charity will always see half of whatever is collected. I don't think its a bad thing at all for someone to keep their winning from a 50/50. Why even bother having people buy tickets? Like others have said, just put a jar out and ask for monetary donations.
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Posted 10/26/11 8:46 AM |
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Pomegranate5
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by Jennie0898
I have to say, I'm actually surprised that more people aren't jumping in to defend the idea of "selfless charitable giving".
I guess that just goes to show that I don't understand people at all - or at least not the ones on LIF. I would have thought it was MORE offensive to admit that you are only participating in the raffle in hopes of making some money. I obviously know nothing.
ITA
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Posted 10/26/11 9:11 AM |
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2boys4me
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
What if the person who put in a few dollars in the hopes of winning won and really really needed the money for medical bills, food, diapers, etc. I see that as a blessing for that person, and aren't they charity too? Would you condemn them for keeping it? Maybe not if they said why they were keeping it but who in that position would say why so you people would probably go and judge them...
My point is... you never know a persons circumstances or reasons behind making the choices that they do so we shouldn't judge regardless.
Also, I have a friend who works for a well known non profit, she has worked in the non profit world for years and some of the things I hear... The things that go on, the things that they use the money for, when we have money to give or stuff to give I prefer to give directly to a person in need, that way I know first hand that I am helping out.
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Posted 10/26/11 9:19 AM |
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annoyedTTCer
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by emilylives
Posted by JRG71
Posted by Jennie0898
I have to say, I'm actually surprised that more people aren't jumping in to defend the idea of "selfless charitable giving".
ITA
I don't think anyone has a problem with selfless charitable giving. They'd just rather not do it under the guise of a game of chance.
This! Exactly
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Posted 10/26/11 9:29 AM |
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annoyedTTCer
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by GioiaMia
Before this thread, I would have NEVER thought to give it back. . . I am just going to pretend I didn't read this. . . moving along, nothing to see here. . .
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Posted 10/26/11 9:30 AM |
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Pomegranate5
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by 2boys4me
What if the person who put in a few dollars in the hopes of winning won and really really needed the money for medical bills, food, diapers, etc. I see that as a blessing for that person, and aren't they charity too? Would you condemn them for keeping it? Maybe not if they said why they were keeping it but who in that position would say why so you people would probably go and judge them...
I haven't seen anybody condemned for wanting to keep the money. It IS a game after all and the winner is more than welcome to keep their winnings. But the fact is that there are many very prestigious charitable events that are put on where most of the attendees are all playing for fun with the intention of never keeping any of it. It's just a fact. It's not the charity's fault. It isn't being done to trick anybody (not that you were saying that, but others were).
But, if you need the winnings to buy diapers or make a car payment, you aren't at the kind of event that Jennie was talking about. If you are in that kind of situation and you've come out to donate money to a worthy cause, no one in their right mind would discourage you from keeping the money.
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Posted 10/26/11 9:38 AM |
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2boys4me
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
If you don't need the money, then I think it should def be given back but if you need it then I think you should take it, or take what you need and give the rest to the charity. And to those who take it and don't need it then I think karma will come back to them.
ETA: NOT saying that bad things will happen to people who keep the money who don't need it. I do agree that with higher end charity events... events with $1000 a plate, that obviously it's expected to give the money back, from what I have been told, these events are more like social gatherings and places you go to be seen so obviously they go to give, but there are events at local bars and stuff that have 50/50 raffles with just regular middle class people attending. I feel like FOR ME, I take when I need whether it be help from family or friends or if we were to get lucky and win a 50/50 which has never happened because I have never played, I just feel like if you need, you take and if you don't need you give back. When we have extra, we give. People should help each other out. That's how I live my life. BUT if you participated in a 50/50...like one at a bar or a local walk or at a school, a small one, and you win, if you take it then that's cool because you may need it or just because you won which is also fine. Or you may choose to give it back because you want to be generous, know someone that the cause is helping, don't need the money, etc. Then that's cool too. I think people are reading too much into this.
Message edited 10/26/2011 9:59:11 AM.
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Posted 10/26/11 9:48 AM |
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HoneyBadger
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by 2boys4me
What if the person who put in a few dollars in the hopes of winning won and really really needed the money for medical bills, food, diapers, etc. I see that as a blessing for that person, and aren't they charity too? Would you condemn them for keeping it? Maybe not if they said why they were keeping it but who in that position would say why so you people would probably go and judge them...
I haven't seen anybody condemned for wanting to keep the money. It IS a game after all and the winner is more than welcome to keep their winnings. But the fact is that there are many very prestigious charitable events that are put on where most of the attendees are all playing for fun with the intention of never keeping any of it. It's just a fact. It's not the charity's fault. It isn't being done to trick anybody (not that you were saying that, but others were).
But, if you need the winnings to buy diapers or make a car payment, you aren't at the kind of event that Jennie was talking about. If you are in that kind of situation and you've come out to donate money to a worthy cause, no one in their right mind would discourage you from keeping the money.
THIS!!!!
The people who attending these events are VERY WEALTHY.
If you need the winnings from a 50/50 to buy diapers, you're not spending the $200 or more dollars to be in it in the first place.
I think that's the point a LOT of people are missing here.
The people who attend these events are NOT your average Joes, these are philanthropists. They honestly don't need the money and the 50/50 is all in good fun.
Is it stated anywhere outright that they can't keep the money? Of course not! It's just one of those things that those of us in the industry and those who are familiar with the industry and donate often (in large quantities - not your $100 here or $100 there - I'm talking THOUSANDS of dollars a year) have just come to expect.
Yes, it's expected.
Call it wrong, tacky, whatever. It is what it is. Not everything in this world is as PC as it is on LIF.
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Posted 10/26/11 10:27 AM |
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lynnd126
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by Ladybug63
Give it all back. I work for a non-profit. If someone keeps the 50/50 I'm a little put-off. It's their right to do what they want but it's customary to give the money back.
I never knew that was customary but then again I never won a 50/50 or put much thought into what if I did win one, lol.
I feel like that would have a negative impact on how many/much people participated.
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Posted 10/26/11 9:45 PM |
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labonnevie
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
I am beyond turned off by the fact that I would be frowned at if I didn't give back my winnings. If we're entering a raffle, the majority of people are entering to not only make more money for the event, but to WIN. Not that I have won anything, but now I don't plan on playing. If the organization can't afford to put on the event without someone giving back their winnings, or if they're always looking for $, then just take donations and don't give people the run around. And as for the 'reason' to make it more 'fun', then play a game or something actually FUN- something where I won't be spoken about behind me back because I decided to keep something I won.
I do want to point out that I have worked for a non-profit before. I also want to point out that I think there's a difference between the types of fundraisers we are all thinking about.
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Posted 10/26/11 10:48 PM |
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HoneyBadger
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by labonnevie
I am beyond turned off by the fact that I would be frowned at if I didn't give back my winnings. If we're entering a raffle, the majority of people are entering to not only make more money for the event, but to WIN. Not that I have won anything, but now I don't plan on playing. If the organization can't afford to put on the event without someone giving back their winnings, or if they're always looking for $, then just take donations and don't give people the run around. And as for the 'reason' to make it more 'fun', then play a game or something actually FUN- something where I won't be spoken about behind me back because I decided to keep something I won.
I do want to point out that I have worked for a non-profit before. I also want to point out that I think there's a difference between the types of fundraisers we are all thinking about.
My GOD. Did you read ANY of the posts on this thread past the first page??
Did you see ANY of the explanations I gave?
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Posted 10/26/11 11:42 PM |
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brownie
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by GioiaMia
Before this thread, I would have NEVER thought to give it back. . . I am just going to pretend I didn't read this. . . moving along, nothing to see here. . .
LMAO...I seriously just burst out laughing (which is hard to do for me)
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Posted 10/26/11 11:52 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
From everything I've read on here, EVERYONE IS BASICALLY AGREEING WITH EACH OTHER!!!!
There are two trains of thought in this thread, the charities that most of us go to, where it's small-scale, the money spent and won is not huge, and it's expected that people keep their 50/50 winnings.
The other scenarios are huge events, with large dollar amounts to get in, buy 50/50 tickets, and huge money prizes. At these events, when most of the attendees are philanthropists anyway, they usually return the money, since for them, the "game" is giving away money, not winning the 50/50.
It's getting muddled in here, because it's primarily people who attend smaller events saying how it's a negative to be expected to return the winnings, and the other side defending the big donors returning the money. Two very different scenarios......
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Posted 10/27/11 7:15 AM |
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Pomegranate5
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by GoldenRod
From everything I've read on here, EVERYONE IS BASICALLY AGREEING WITH EACH OTHER!!!!
There are two trains of thought in this thread, the charities that most of us go to, where it's small-scale, the money spent and won is not huge, and it's expected that people keep their 50/50 winnings.
The other scenarios are huge events, with large dollar amounts to get in, buy 50/50 tickets, and huge money prizes. At these events, when most of the attendees are philanthropists anyway, they usually return the money, since for them, the "game" is giving away money, not winning the 50/50.
It's getting muddled in here, because it's primarily people who attend smaller events saying how it's a negative to be expected to return the winnings, and the other side defending the big donors returning the money. Two very different scenarios......
Yay for reading comprehension!
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Posted 10/27/11 9:08 AM |
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PrincessP
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by GoldenRod
From everything I've read on here, EVERYONE IS BASICALLY AGREEING WITH EACH OTHER!!!!
There are two trains of thought in this thread, the charities that most of us go to, where it's small-scale, the money spent and won is not huge, and it's expected that people keep their 50/50 winnings.
The other scenarios are huge events, with large dollar amounts to get in, buy 50/50 tickets, and huge money prizes. At these events, when most of the attendees are philanthropists anyway, they usually return the money, since for them, the "game" is giving away money, not winning the 50/50.
It's getting muddled in here, because it's primarily people who attend smaller events saying how it's a negative to be expected to return the winnings, and the other side defending the big donors returning the money. Two very different scenarios...... Ding, Ding, Ding....
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Posted 10/27/11 9:46 AM |
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HoneyBadger
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by GoldenRod
From everything I've read on here, EVERYONE IS BASICALLY AGREEING WITH EACH OTHER!!!!
There are two trains of thought in this thread, the charities that most of us go to, where it's small-scale, the money spent and won is not huge, and it's expected that people keep their 50/50 winnings.
The other scenarios are huge events, with large dollar amounts to get in, buy 50/50 tickets, and huge money prizes. At these events, when most of the attendees are philanthropists anyway, they usually return the money, since for them, the "game" is giving away money, not winning the 50/50.
It's getting muddled in here, because it's primarily people who attend smaller events saying how it's a negative to be expected to return the winnings, and the other side defending the big donors returning the money. Two very different scenarios......
Well, HOT DAMN, someone GETS it!
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Posted 10/27/11 11:07 AM |
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Bella01
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by GoldenRod
From everything I've read on here, EVERYONE IS BASICALLY AGREEING WITH EACH OTHER!!!!
There are two trains of thought in this thread, the charities that most of us go to, where it's small-scale, the money spent and won is not huge, and it's expected that people keep their 50/50 winnings.
The other scenarios are huge events, with large dollar amounts to get in, buy 50/50 tickets, and huge money prizes. At these events, when most of the attendees are philanthropists anyway, they usually return the money, since for them, the "game" is giving away money, not winning the 50/50.
It's getting muddled in here, because it's primarily people who attend smaller events saying how it's a negative to be expected to return the winnings, and the other side defending the big donors returning the money. Two very different scenarios......
you..you're good..you!
Message edited 10/27/2011 11:10:23 AM.
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Posted 10/27/11 11:10 AM |
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DRMom
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
I was just going to say this. The events we assist with are the "big money" events for the most part. I have only seen a 50/50 raffle done once and I don;t know if the person returned it or not.
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Posted 10/27/11 11:39 AM |
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BargainMama
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Posted by GoldenRod
From everything I've read on here, EVERYONE IS BASICALLY AGREEING WITH EACH OTHER!!!!
There are two trains of thought in this thread, the charities that most of us go to, where it's small-scale, the money spent and won is not huge, and it's expected that people keep their 50/50 winnings.
The other scenarios are huge events, with large dollar amounts to get in, buy 50/50 tickets, and huge money prizes. At these events, when most of the attendees are philanthropists anyway, they usually return the money, since for them, the "game" is giving away money, not winning the 50/50.
It's getting muddled in here, because it's primarily people who attend smaller events saying how it's a negative to be expected to return the winnings, and the other side defending the big donors returning the money. Two very different scenarios......
I just want to add that I have only attended small local charity fundraisers, which is where I have always seen money given back, other than 1 time. I have never been to one with a $500 plate
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Posted 10/27/11 12:58 PM |
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susieb4um
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
Sadly, I was invited to a charity event at work and was so low paid I could barely afford the $15 ticket. However, I went and took a paid guest, where we purchased drinks and raffle tickets. I wish I had not won! It never occurred to me to donate my prize, and thought nothing of it until the next day a co-worker came up to me and said, "you should keep the money, you need it". That tipped me off that I had committed a faux pas and that everyone was talking about me at work. Further, the co-worker who organized the event NEVER invited me again. Apparently it's a cultural thing. Maybe they should have a 75/25 raffle or a 90/10 raffle or something. As for those who think no one would ever actually SAY anything about someone keeping their prize, I beg to differ, as a caution to all, especially in a professional environment.
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Posted 10/10/19 10:51 AM |
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susieb4um
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Re: 50/50 Raffle at Charity Event - Keep or give back?
It's not very charitable to ostracize someone at work for keeping a prize. That's why it's called a "prize". Especially if someone is not accustomed to the "custom". The fun of winning a prize is at least part of the motivation for participating in the first place.
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Posted 10/10/19 11:02 AM |
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