Has this ever happened to you? (LONG)
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NewYawkah
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Has this ever happened to you? (LONG)
I can't believe this article!!! Have you heard of an admin changing a grade? Listen to this girl and her mother, and they PASS her?????!!!!!!?????
August 1, 2007 On Education A Teacher Grows Disillusioned After a ‘Fail’ Becomes a ‘Pass’ By SAMUEL G. FREEDMAN Several weeks into his first year of teaching math at the High School of Arts and Technology in Manhattan, Austin Lampros received a copy of the school’s grading policy. He took particular note of the stipulation that a student who attended class even once during a semester, who did absolutely nothing else, was to be given 45 points on the 100-point scale, just 20 short of a passing mark.
Mr. Lampros’s introduction to the high school’s academic standards proved a fitting preamble to a disastrous year. It reached its low point in late June, when Arts and Technology’s principal, Anne Geiger, overruled Mr. Lampros and passed a senior whom he had failed in a required math course.
That student, Indira Fernandez, had missed dozens of class sessions and failed to turn in numerous homework assignments, according to Mr. Lampros’s meticulous records, which he provided to The New York Times. She had not even shown up to take the final exam. She did, however, attend the senior prom.
Through the intercession of Ms. Geiger, Miss Fernandez was permitted to retake the final after receiving two days of personal tutoring from another math teacher. Even though her score of 66 still left her with a failing grade for the course as a whole by Mr. Lampros’s calculations, Ms. Geiger gave the student a passing mark, which allowed her to graduate.
Ms. Geiger declined to be interviewed for this column and said that federal law forbade her to speak about a specific student’s performance. But in a written reply to questions, she characterized her actions as part of a “standard procedure” of “encouraging teachers to support students’ efforts to achieve academic success.”
The issue here is not a violation of rules or regulations. Ms. Geiger acted within the bounds of the teachers’ union’s contract with the city, by providing written notice to Mr. Lampros of her decision.
No, the issue is more what this episode may say about the Department of Education’s vaunted increase in graduation rates. It is possible, of course, that the confrontation over Miss Fernandez was an aberration. It is possible, too, that Mr. Lampros is the rare teacher willing to speak on the record about the pressures from administrators to pass marginal students, pressures that countless colleagues throughout the city privately grumble about but ultimately cave in to, fearful of losing their jobs if they object.
Mr. Lampros has resigned and returned to his home state, Michigan. The principal and officials in the Department of Education say that he missed 24 school days during the last year for illness and personal reasons. He missed two of the three sets of parent-teacher conferences. He also had conflicts with an assistant principal, Antonio Arocho, over teaching styles. Mr. Lampros said all of this was true.
Still, Mr. Lampros received a satisfactory rating five of the six times administrators formally observed him. He has master’s degrees in both statistics and math education and has won awards for his teaching at the college level.
“It’s almost as if you stick to your morals and your ethics, you’ll end up without a job,” Mr. Lampros said in an interview. “I don’t think every school is like that. But in my case, it was.”
The written record, in the form of the minutely detailed charts Mr. Lampros maintained to determine student grades, supports his account. Colleagues of his from the school — a counselor, a programmer, several fellow teachers — corroborated key elements of his version of events. They also describe a principal worried that the 2006 graduation rate of 72.5 percent would fall closer to 50 or 60 percent unless teachers came up with ways to pass more students.
After having failed to graduate with her class in June 2006, Miss Fernandez, who, through her mother, declined to be interviewed, returned to Arts and Technology last September for a fifth year. She was enrolled in Mr. Lampros’s class in intermediate algebra. Absent for more than two-thirds of the days, she failed, and that grade was left intact by administrators.
When second semester began, Miss Fernandez again took the intermediate algebra class, which fulfilled one of her graduation requirements. According to Mr. Lampros’s records, she missed one-third of the classes, arrived late for 20 sessions, turned in half the required homework assignments, failed 11 of 14 tests and quizzes, and never took the final exam.
Two days after the June 12 final, Miss Fernandez told Mr. Lampros that she had a doctor’s note excusing her from school on the day of the exam, he said. On June 18, she asked him if she had failed the class, and he told her she had. The next day, the principal summoned Mr. Lampros to a meeting with Miss Fernandez and her mother. He was ordered, he said, to let her retake the final.
Mr. Arocho, the assistant principal, wrote in a letter to Mr. Lampros that Miss Fernandez had a doctor’s note, issued March 15, permitting her to miss school whenever necessary in the spring. Mr. Arocho did not respond to telephone and e-mail messages seeking comment.
There is such a note, issued by Dr. Jason Faller, but it excused absences “over the last three months” — that is, the period between mid-December and mid-March. In a recent interview, Dr. Faller said he saw Miss Fernandez only once, in March, and confirmed that his excuse note covered absences only before March 15.
For whatever reason, school administrators misinterpreted the note and told Mr. Lampros that Miss Fernandez would be allowed to retake the final — and to retake it after having two days of one-on-one tutoring by another math teacher, an advantage none of Mr. Lampros’s other students had, he said.
Mr. Lampros, disgusted, did not come to school the next two days. Miss Fernandez meanwhile took the test and scored a 66, which still left her far short of a 65 average for the semester. Nonetheless, Mr. Arocho tried to enter a passing mark for her. When he had to relent after objections by the teachers’ union representative, Mr. Lampros was allowed to put in the failing grade. Ms. Geiger promptly reversed it.
Samantha Fernandez, Indira’s mother, spoke on her behalf. “My daughter earned everything she got,” she said. Of Mr. Lampros, she said, “He needs to grow up and be a man.”
From Michigan, Mr. Lampros recalled one comment that Mrs. Fernandez made during their meeting about why it was important for Indira to graduate. She couldn’t afford to pay for her to attend another senior prom in another senior year.
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Posted 8/3/07 11:02 PM |
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justthe4ofus
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OK I didn't read the whole thing- it's too late for me to read that much. But I had a very long conversation with my principal this June because in our district we are not supposed to give a grade lower than 50 even if their true grade is MUCH lower. It's a bunch of BS. I fought him on it with two students because I had two that didn't deserve to pass and with the 50's they would pass. In the end he understood by giving them the 50 and letting them pass for the year was like me saying that I feel that they could move on and do the next level of material even though they shouldn't so in the end he allowed me to give them their true grades.
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Posted 8/3/07 11:15 PM |
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cjb88
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i just read that a few hours ago... unfortunately i have seen it many times... it is completely believable and happens a lot more then you think...
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Posted 8/3/07 11:21 PM |
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nicrae
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my friend just sent me this article. It is a sad true fact that this is going on in many schools in NYC. I have witnesses personally APs and Principals pressuring teachers with "Could you look at that grade again?", "Is there extra-credit for so and so who have been absent 130 days this year?", or " She only needs your class to graduate...do you want to be responsible for holding her back?" I have also seen first hand teachers socially promoting students who can't read past a 2nd grade level. (I teach high school). It is disgusting and pathetic how administrations turn a blind eye so their numbers look good in the annual reports.
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Posted 8/3/07 11:24 PM |
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Chai77
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Posted by cjb88
i just read that a few hours ago... unfortunately i have seen it many times... it is completely believable and happens a lot more then you think...
Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. Unfortunately, I think this happens a lot.
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Posted 8/3/07 11:54 PM |
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MrsPowers
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This has never happened to me personally but it has happened in my school. The principal has overturned grades.
I agree with the previous poster about the 50 being the highest grade. That irritates me too. I have had students that have earned a 16 for a marking period and I have to give them a 50 because you can't give lower than that.
As others have said, this type of thing happens more than you think!
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Posted 8/4/07 7:45 AM |
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In my school, if it's a "problem" kid, especially a violent one who is in 8th grade, the admins just want to do what has to be done to get the kid out.
This past school year I had a student who was in 7th grade for the second consecutive year. He was told that he'd be promoted after the first marking period IF he stepped up and did some work. Long story short, he did nothing, they moved him up anyway. Frankly, I chose not to make a stink because the kid had known gang affiliations, he could be violent and I was glad to see him gone.
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Posted 8/4/07 9:39 AM |
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nicrae
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Posted by MrsProfessor
In my school, if it's a "problem" kid, especially a violent one who is in 8th grade, the admins just want to do what has to be done to get the kid out.
This past school year I had a student who was in 7th grade for the second consecutive year. He was told that he'd be promoted after the first marking period IF he stepped up and did some work. Long story short, he did nothing, they moved him up anyway. Frankly, I chose not to make a stink because the kid had known gang affiliations, he could be violent and I was glad to see him gone.
Thanks for sending him to us......
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Posted 8/4/07 10:30 AM |
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cjb88
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Posted by MrsPowers
This has never happened to me personally but it has happened in my school. The principal has overturned grades.
I agree with the previous poster about the 50 being the highest grade. That irritates me too. I have had students that have earned a 16 for a marking period and I have to give them a 50 because you can't give lower than that.
As others have said, this type of thing happens more than you think!
my district also has the you cant give lower then a 50 for a marking period... i was told that the rationale for this is because if the kid gets a 16 for the first semester, then even if he works really hard, he has no chance of passing for the rest of the year... so they dont want the kids to think that they will fail no matter what they do, causing them to give up
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Posted 8/4/07 10:54 AM |
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MrsPowers
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Posted by cjb88
Posted by MrsPowers
This has never happened to me personally but it has happened in my school. The principal has overturned grades.
I agree with the previous poster about the 50 being the highest grade. That irritates me too. I have had students that have earned a 16 for a marking period and I have to give them a 50 because you can't give lower than that.
As others have said, this type of thing happens more than you think!
my district also has the you cant give lower then a 50 for a marking period... i was told that the rationale for this is because if the kid gets a 16 for the first semester, then even if he works really hard, he has no chance of passing for the rest of the year... so they dont want the kids to think that they will fail no matter what they do, causing them to give up
I can understand both sides.
I realize that a student may give up if they receive a 16.
However, a student that gets 50s every marking period and pulls an 80 on a midterm or a 90 on a final or Regents can pass for the year. So the lazy, but bright students passes for the year. That bothers me because in reality they have learned to "work the system."
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Posted 8/4/07 11:00 AM |
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Posted by niikki-8-18-06
Posted by MrsProfessor
In my school, if it's a "problem" kid, especially a violent one who is in 8th grade, the admins just want to do what has to be done to get the kid out.
This past school year I had a student who was in 7th grade for the second consecutive year. He was told that he'd be promoted after the first marking period IF he stepped up and did some work. Long story short, he did nothing, they moved him up anyway. Frankly, I chose not to make a stink because the kid had known gang affiliations, he could be violent and I was glad to see him gone.
Thanks for sending him to us......
Believe me, if I wasn't pregnant at the time I would not have been so amenable to it- but after he called me an effing #%$^@ I decided to throw in the towel. And ultimately, the principal does call the shots, in nearly all of these situations.
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Posted 8/4/07 11:24 AM |
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nicrae
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Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by niikki-8-18-06
Posted by MrsProfessor
In my school, if it's a "problem" kid, especially a violent one who is in 8th grade, the admins just want to do what has to be done to get the kid out.
This past school year I had a student who was in 7th grade for the second consecutive year. He was told that he'd be promoted after the first marking period IF he stepped up and did some work. Long story short, he did nothing, they moved him up anyway. Frankly, I chose not to make a stink because the kid had known gang affiliations, he could be violent and I was glad to see him gone.
Thanks for sending him to us......
Believe me, if I wasn't pregnant at the time I would not have been so amenable to it- but after he called me an effing #%$^@ I decided to throw in the towel. And ultimately, the principal does call the shots, in nearly all of these situations.
I understand.....I'm pg and have no patience for any kind of crap from them.
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Posted 8/4/07 2:29 PM |
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MrsRivera
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See...this is exactly what's wrong with the educational system the way it is now. Administrators are so stressed out by NCLB and all of the standardized testing, that it's become all about "making the grade". And in the process, the students are learning that they can get away with doing absolutely nothing, because someone will always be there to bail them out. This makes me sick...whatever happened to a teacher's role as an advisor, getting them ready to go out into the real world?
I'd be willing to be that this girl will be one of the millions in our country who are going to be living off the welfare system. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but she's learned that she can take, take, take, and not have to give anything in return. So we, as taxpayers, will have to pay for her, as well as the 6 children she'll probably have before she turns 30.
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Posted 8/4/07 3:47 PM |
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Shanti
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Posted by cjb88
i just read that a few hours ago... unfortunately i have seen it many times... it is completely believable and happens a lot more then you think...
I have heard of it happening to teachers I know!
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Posted 8/4/07 9:55 PM |
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SummerMom
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Happens all the time. I taught at a school with a championship basketball team, and if a kid fails 2 classes in a semester he's kicked off the team, so... mysteriously grades of 55 would be entered as 65.
There is such pressure on administrators to produce good pass rates, and they pass that pressure onto teachers. My previous school had a policy that any teacher who fails more than 1/3 of the class has to report to the principal to explain why. Now, schoolwide attendance is 50% (pretty average for an NYC high school). So, if only half your kids show up, you're still supposed to pass two-thirds of them or else face reprimand. Um... how's that? The only way to accomplish this would be to pass kids who don't deserve it. As horrible as it sounds, when I was untenured, at the end of a semester I would actually count the number of kids on my register, figure out the number of kids I had to pass, and find reasons to pass enough kids to meet the quota.
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Posted 8/5/07 12:44 AM |
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