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Sassyz75
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
They make a lot of money- but they do have a lot of responsibility..
I think we definitely should consolidate districts- but that would never EVER happen b/c people on Long Island are racist and classist. The Massapequa people would never let the North Amityville kids in their schools no matter how much lower their taxes would go.
I think a lot of the problem isn't so much the salaries but the retirement amounts. The fact that a lot of public employees (not just teachers) get to bank their sick days, vacation days, etc and use that amount to "up" their retirement amount isn't right. Like the rest of the working world, if you don't use your sick days, you should lose them.
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
Posted by Sassyz75
I think a lot of the problem isn't so much the salaries but the retirement amounts. The fact that a lot of public employees (not just teachers) get to bank their sick days, vacation days, etc and use that amount to "up" their retirement amount isn't right. Like the rest of the working world, if you don't use your sick days, you should lose them.
You hit the nail on the head!!!! The new class of NYPD will get a pension based solely on their base salary, not inclusive of OT, sick days, vacation days, etc. That is what we need to do for the Suffolk & Nassau cops and other public and gov't employees.
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| Posted 11/15/10 11:16 AM |
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
Posted by Sassyz75
I think we definitely should consolidate districts- but that would never EVER happen b/c people on Long Island are racist and classist. The Massapequa people would never let the North Amityville kids in their schools no matter how much lower their taxes would go.
I wouldn't make the generalization that LI'ers are racist and classist. I think that is a little harsh. I am not a racist by any means but unfortunately there are certain areas of LI that are more prone to gangs and violence, such as Hempstead. At the same time, maybe merging districts would give these schools more money which means more programs, more sports, a better environment to learn in. People are sometimes a product of their environment...if we "throw our kids to the wolves" so to speak, we can't really expect much from them because we are telling them we don't have any faith in them.
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| Posted 11/15/10 11:25 AM |
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
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I don't think they shoud publish salary information by name.
The public can know they are paying XX to teach XXx but to be able to look up little jonny's Math teacher specifically seems to wrong.
As for those who begrudge teacher salaries-every single one of us had a chance to become a teacher and knew the perks and still chose otherwise sooooo-too bad for us.
I'm not a teacher-I'm in finance.
I agree totally (and am in finance too) I thought when they said salaries were disclosed, you could calculate salary based on number of years, etc - not have it laid out for you.
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| Posted 11/15/10 11:25 AM |
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
Posted by jellybean1420
You hit the nail on the head!!!! The new class of NYPD will get a pension based solely on their base salary, not inclusive of OT, sick days, vacation days, etc. That is what we need to do for the Suffolk & Nassau cops and other public and gov't employees.
The vast majority of public employees will have this happen. A new tier will be out soon enough and once contracts are up this will be addressed as well.
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| Posted 11/15/10 12:50 PM |
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Sassyz75
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
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Posted by Sassyz75
I think we definitely should consolidate districts- but that would never EVER happen b/c people on Long Island are racist and classist. The Massapequa people would never let the North Amityville kids in their schools no matter how much lower their taxes would go.
I wouldn't make the generalization that LI'ers are racist and classist. I think that is a little harsh. I am not a racist by any means but unfortunately there are certain areas of LI that are more prone to gangs and violence, such as Hempstead. At the same time, maybe merging districts would give these schools more money which means more programs, more sports, a better environment to learn in. People are sometimes a product of their environment...if we "throw our kids to the wolves" so to speak, we can't really expect much from them because we are telling them we don't have any faith in them.
By merging districts and having the "bad kids" with the "Good kids" it would definitely pull those kids up.. but again, would Massapequa let the N. Amityville kids into their school?
Doubt it.
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| Posted 11/15/10 2:03 PM |
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
Posted by Sassyz75
By merging districts and having the "bad kids" with the "Good kids" it would definitely pull those kids up.. but again, would Massapequa let the N. Amityville kids into their school?
Doubt it.
Ideally, the majority of kids would improve, but there have been studies that have shown that socioeconomic integration (which is what you'd have in a few communities) does usually not have that effect. The link talks about one study and links to a couple others. Link
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| Posted 11/15/10 2:44 PM |
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Songwriter76
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
The fact that this is public knowledge is a disgrace.
The only reason people think it should be public is because they're curious and nosy about what their friends make. I highly doubt that anyone here is sitting down saying, "Ok, let me be a good citizen and see where my tax dollars are going. Now I will average out the salaries based on population...etc."
Ok, so if you work in Toys R Us and I buy something there, am I entitled to know how much YOU make? I wanna know where MY money is going too.
I choose to spend money at Toys R Us. You choose to live in a certain school district. No difference IMO.
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| Posted 11/15/10 2:59 PM |
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Sassyz75
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
Posted by Songwriter76
The fact that this is public knowledge is a disgrace.
The only reason people think it should be public is because they're curious and nosy about what their friends make. I highly doubt that anyone here is sitting down saying, "Ok, let me be a good citizen and see where my tax dollars are going. Now I will average out the salaries based on population...etc."
Ok, so if you work in Toys R Us and I buy something there, am I entitled to know how much YOU make? I wanna know where MY money is going too.
I choose to spend money at Toys R Us. You choose to live in a certain school district. No difference IMO.
It needs to be a matter of public record.
You can't charge someone something (i.e. taxes) and then not have it a matter of record as to why you are charging it?
When you buy at toys r us- you know where your money is going- towards your purchase.. you know how much your purchase is b/c there are price tags..
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Sassyz75
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
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Posted by Sassyz75
By merging districts and having the "bad kids" with the "Good kids" it would definitely pull those kids up.. but again, would Massapequa let the N. Amityville kids into their school?
Doubt it.
Ideally, the majority of kids would improve, but there have been studies that have shown that socioeconomic integration (which is what you'd have in a few communities) does usually not have that effect. The link talks about one study and links to a couple others. Link
Yeah but I think this study was pointing out that socio-economic integration only goes so far country wide being that 21% of children live in poverty and 42% live in low income families... so if you were to socially integrate all those children it really wouldn't make a different..
However, on LI you know that is different. There aren't really any "mixed" districts. District lines are drawn around race & class boundaries for the most part.. Look at portions of Massapequa going to Amityville for instance.
However, I bet it would make a difference on LI being that you have high concentration of low-income families w/ children in schools like Amityville, Copiague, Wyandanch, Roosevelt, etc.
Also- re: free lunch, my DD goes to Amityville and receives free lunch as part of pre-k because every child in the program receives it 'cause it's a state funded program..
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| Posted 11/15/10 3:13 PM |
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
Posted by Songwriter76
The fact that this is public knowledge is a disgrace.
The only reason people think it should be public is because they're curious and nosy about what their friends make. I highly doubt that anyone here is sitting down saying, "Ok, let me be a good citizen and see where my tax dollars are going. Now I will average out the salaries based on population...etc."
Nosy & curious? Get real.
Government is FULL of abuse of power. It is a matter of checks & balances. I want to know that people I am electing are playing favorites with their lobbyists' wives, their own nephew's etc.
I worked in an office full of lobbyists. I was the event coordinator inviting government officials to parties to pair them with real estate developers & union officals. You have politicians like Charles Rangel paired with lobbyists taking him on trips. I want to know what these guys "make". Frank Tassone who stole over $2.2 million from the Roslyn School District, you better bet we should be entitled to know he get $14,457.92 MONTHLY as he sits in prison.
There needs to be more checks in my opinion. If Newsday tried more investigative journalism by checking into how someone's wife is getting a huge paycheck with little to no experience for a position, we'd all be better off.
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
Posted by Sassyz75
Also- re: free lunch, my DD goes to Amityville and receives free lunch as part of pre-k because every child in the program receives it 'cause it's a state funded program..
But think about this - "state funded program" - where do you think the state gets the $$ for this from? From our taxes. Unfortunately, regardless of whether a program is "state funded" or "district funded," WE are the wallets the funds are coming out of.
Sadly, I don't have any answers but somehow this spending has to get under control before we're all bankrupt!
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| Posted 11/15/10 3:36 PM |
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Sassyz75
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
Posted by Mill188
Posted by Sassyz75
Also- re: free lunch, my DD goes to Amityville and receives free lunch as part of pre-k because every child in the program receives it 'cause it's a state funded program..
But think about this - "state funded program" - where do you think the state gets the $$ for this from? From our taxes. Unfortunately, regardless of whether a program is "state funded" or "district funded," WE are the wallets the funds are coming out of.
Sadly, I don't have any answers but somehow this spending has to get under control before we're all bankrupt!
I mentioned free lunch b/c it had to do w/ the article a PP referenced re: free lunches as a indicator of poverty in areas and how that correlates to school performance.
I understand that the money comes from taxes- and that's what is sort of ridiculous about the lunch- b/c we can buy our own lunch... but the state requires that everyone in the program, regardless of need, gets the lunch...
I wonder how much money is wasted?
I have no problem giving a kid free lunch if that's the only hot meal they're gonna get all day- I'd gladly fork over a % of my pay for that- no problem.. just don't waste it on my kid... the money is better diverted towards someone who needs it.
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| Posted 11/16/10 11:29 PM |
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
yea the whole free lunch thing is a sore spot for me. i understand many people don't get food (when i went to school there were a few kids that hardly ever ate and i didn't grow up in a poor district.) My own husband had free lunch because his parents died and lived with his sister who had four children of her own. The problem is many people who receive assistance get it because their parents work "off the books" so their income is considerably lower then people who work two jobs but still can't afford to put food on a table. There always people who are going to scam and its very important to ensure that the child's paper work is in, approved and to some level checked its a legit claim. Many districts don't bother doing this, some have reduced food programs that are required to have the parent(s) pay half and many schools don't collect. Things like that can't slip.
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| Posted 11/17/10 9:32 AM |
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
Posted by jellybean1420
Posted by Sassyz75
I think a lot of the problem isn't so much the salaries but the retirement amounts. The fact that a lot of public employees (not just teachers) get to bank their sick days, vacation days, etc and use that amount to "up" their retirement amount isn't right. Like the rest of the working world, if you don't use your sick days, you should lose them.
You hit the nail on the head!!!! The new class of NYPD will get a pension based solely on their base salary, not inclusive of OT, sick days, vacation days, etc. That is what we need to do for the Suffolk & Nassau cops and other public and gov't employees.
Yep and my pension just went away starting this year. There is no more pension plan in my firm.
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| Posted 11/17/10 11:23 AM |
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
Posted by Nifheim
yea the whole free lunch thing is a sore spot for me. I understand many people don't get food (when I went to school there were a few kids that hardly ever ate and I didn't grow up in a poor district.) My own husband had free lunch because his parents died and lived with his sister who had four children of her own. The problem is many people who receive assistance get it because their parents work "off the books" so their income is considerably lower then people who work two jobs but still can't afford to put food on a table. There always people who are going to scam and its very important to ensure that the child's paper work is in, approved and to some level checked its a legit claim. Many districts don't bother doing this, some have reduced food programs that are required to have the parent(s) pay half and many schools don't collect. Things like that can't slip.
I'm with you on that one. We have a couple in my neighborhood who both proudly state that they bought their Escalade and BMWs for cash and he works off the books and collects disability from somewhere.
There is so much waste and thievery going on that no politician seems to want to stop.
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| Posted 11/17/10 12:10 PM |
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Re: What would you say is the "average" salary a school superintendant makes on LI
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Posted by Sassyz75
I think we definitely should consolidate districts- but that would never EVER happen b/c people on Long Island are racist and classist. The Massapequa people would never let the North Amityville kids in their schools no matter how much lower their taxes would go.
I wouldn't make the generalization that LI'ers are racist and classist. I think that is a little harsh. I am not a racist by any means but unfortunately there are certain areas of LI that are more prone to gangs and violence, such as Hempstead. At the same time, maybe merging districts would give these schools more money which means more programs, more sports, a better environment to learn in. People are sometimes a product of their environment...if we "throw our kids to the wolves" so to speak, we can't really expect much from them because we are telling them we don't have any faith in them.
Long Island is considered the most segregated suburb.
It's not even Amityville and Massapequa or Cold Spring Harbor and Huntington; Ive heard Harborfields residents reject the thought of Elwood combining with it.
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