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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Honestly I think the word vaccine is misleading to people. When you get the chicken pox/polio/MMR etc vaccines, you don't get those diseases. With this, you CAN still get Covid.
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https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
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99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
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Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
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https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by cj7305
Honestly I think the word vaccine is misleading to people. When you get the chicken pox/polio/MMR etc vaccines, you don't get those diseases. With this, you CAN still get Covid.
The flu vaccine is the same though.
My daughter is always vaccinated for the flu- one year she caught the flu from my DH. Tested positive and everything.
I think with the flu shot they put in a few strains each year- but if another strain starts circulating you are shit out of luck
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Posted by cj7305
Honestly I think the word vaccine is misleading to people. When you get the chicken pox/polio/MMR etc vaccines, you don't get those diseases. With this, you CAN still get Covid.
The flu vaccine is the same though.
My daughter is always vaccinated for the flu- one year she caught the flu from my DH. Tested positive and everything.
I think with the flu shot they put in a few strains each year- but if another strain starts circulating you are shit out of luck
Exactly but how DARE you compare Covid to the Flu 
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Posted by NervousNell
Posted by cj7305
Honestly I think the word vaccine is misleading to people. When you get the chicken pox/polio/MMR etc vaccines, you don't get those diseases. With this, you CAN still get Covid.
The flu vaccine is the same though.
My daughter is always vaccinated for the flu- one year she caught the flu from my DH. Tested positive and everything.
I think with the flu shot they put in a few strains each year- but if another strain starts circulating you are shit out of luck
Exactly but how DARE you compare Covid to the Flu
Yes I know, you cannot say the 2 in the same sentence. Ever.
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by GoldenRod
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
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99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
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Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
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https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
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It’s actually better if you get the chicken pox and not the vaccine - you have better immunity. This is what our ped told us when our 11 month old was covered head to toe in chicken pox… unfortunately it made it difficult to register him for school because the form didn’t print out the vaccine exception for it.
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
I just find it ironic that the CDC is pushing vaccines yet they don’t require their employees to get it.
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by ali120206
Posted by GoldenRod
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
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99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
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Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
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https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
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It’s actually better if you get the chicken pox and not the vaccine - you have better immunity. This is what our ped told us when our 11 month old was covered head to toe in chicken pox… unfortunately it made it difficult to register him for school because the form didn’t print out the vaccine exception for it.
It is not better to get the chicken pox than get the vaccine. The ONLY benefit you will have is better immunity from the chicken pox but getting the chicken pox can also have serious long term side effects while getting the chicken pox vaccine typically does not. Not to mention the chicken pox can be extremely painful and uncomfortable, especially if you get it as an older child, young adult or adult. It is almost never better to get the disease itself than get the vaccine.
TBH I think the same is probably true of COVID in terms of immunity but I think if the vaccine was as effective as the chicken pox vaccine and was around as long with little to no long term side effects, you would be crazy to prefer getting COVID to getting the vaccine.
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by cj7305
Honestly I think the word vaccine is misleading to people. When you get the chicken pox/polio/MMR etc vaccines, you don't get those diseases. With this, you CAN still get Covid.
It’s still possible. The chances are not high but it is still a possibility especially with vaccines that have live viruses like the mmr. U can get it from a vaccinated person through shedding and u can also get it from the vaccine itself. I personally know people that have gotten shingles later in life after getting the chicken pox vaccine and I also know people vaccinated with the MMR vaccine that have gotten measles later on. For me personally, more than the disease, what would worry me is the long term effects due to the components in the vaccines that can manifest down the line in so many different ways, from neurological problems to autoimmune diseases, and more.
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by ali120206
Posted by GoldenRod
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
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99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
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Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
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https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
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It’s actually better if you get the chickenpox and not the vaccine - you have better immunity. This is what our ped told us when our 11 month old was covered head to toe in chickenpox… unfortunately it made it difficult to register him for school because the form didn’t print out the vaccine exception for it.
That’s right. The younger, the better. Reason why chickenpox parties were so popular back then.
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by GoldenRod
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
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99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
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Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
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https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
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It’s actually better if you get the chicken pox and not the vaccine - you have better immunity. This is what our ped told us when our 11 month old was covered head to toe in chicken pox… unfortunately it made it difficult to register him for school because the form didn’t print out the vaccine exception for it.
It is not better to get the chicken pox than get the vaccine. The ONLY benefit you will have is better immunity from the chicken pox but getting the chicken pox can also have serious long term side effects while getting the chicken pox vaccine typically does not. Not to mention the chicken pox can be extremely painful and uncomfortable, especially if you get it as an older child, young adult or adult. It is almost never better to get the disease itself than get the vaccine.
TBH I think the same is probably true of COVID in terms of immunity but I think if the vaccine was as effective as the chicken pox vaccine and was around as long with little to no long term side effects, you would be crazy to prefer getting COVID to getting the vaccine.
I don't agree. My older daughter got the chicken pox. there was no vaccine back then. Most kids during her childhood got chickenpox as did my generation not sure about any long term effects and with her it was not a traumatic experience. By my next kid there was a vaccine which she got. Now older kid still has immunity other one does not.
I think natural immunity is better.
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Vaccine Misconceptions?
Another question about the vaccine. Do people that have antibodies from cover still required to get vaccine? An if so why? If you have antibodies to chicken pox you are not required to get the vaccine for chicken pox again.
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by GoldenRod
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
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99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
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Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
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https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
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It’s actually better if you get the chicken pox and not the vaccine - you have better immunity. This is what our ped told us when our 11 month old was covered head to toe in chicken pox… unfortunately it made it difficult to register him for school because the form didn’t print out the vaccine exception for it.
It is not better to get the chicken pox than get the vaccine. The ONLY benefit you will have is better immunity from the chicken pox but getting the chicken pox can also have serious long term side effects while getting the chicken pox vaccine typically does not. Not to mention the chicken pox can be extremely painful and uncomfortable, especially if you get it as an older child, young adult or adult. It is almost never better to get the disease itself than get the vaccine.
TBH I think the same is probably true of COVID in terms of immunity but I think if the vaccine was as effective as the chicken pox vaccine and was around as long with little to no long term side effects, you would be crazy to prefer getting COVID to getting the vaccine.
I don't agree. My older daughter got the chicken pox. there was no vaccine back then. Most kids during her childhood got chickenpox as did my generation not sure about any long term effects and with her it was not a traumatic experience. By my next kid there was a vaccine which she got. Now older kid still has immunity other one does not.
I think natural immunity is better.
Natural immunity might be better but just because your experience with chicken pox was mild does not mean that everyone's is. Many people have extreme reactions to chicken pox. My friends sister died from complications related to chicken pox. If you can take a vaccine that is 99.9% effective with little to no side effects vs. getting sick with possible severe side effects the choice is clear. I am sure your younger child can get a booster if her immunity is gone. Many people do not understand that chicken pox, especially if you get it when you are older, can be a very severe disease. It's like Covid, most people will have a mild case and be totally fine but why would you take your chances? Do a little research on chicken pox and you will have a better understanding.
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by 3girls1dog
Another question about the vaccine. Do people that have antibodies from cover still required to get vaccine? An if so why? If you have antibodies to chicken pox you are not required to get the vaccine for chicken pox again.
Covid antibodies start to wear off after 90 days for many people. Also, antibodies are just one form of immunity. But yes, right now antibodies don't seem to mean anything and you are still required to get the vaccine.
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by GoldenRod
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
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99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
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Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
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https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
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It’s actually better if you get the chicken pox and not the vaccine - you have better immunity. This is what our ped told us when our 11 month old was covered head to toe in chicken pox… unfortunately it made it difficult to register him for school because the form didn’t print out the vaccine exception for it.
It is not better to get the chicken pox than get the vaccine. The ONLY benefit you will have is better immunity from the chicken pox but getting the chicken pox can also have serious long term side effects while getting the chicken pox vaccine typically does not. Not to mention the chicken pox can be extremely painful and uncomfortable, especially if you get it as an older child, young adult or adult. It is almost never better to get the disease itself than get the vaccine.
TBH I think the same is probably true of COVID in terms of immunity but I think if the vaccine was as effective as the chicken pox vaccine and was around as long with little to no long term side effects, you would be crazy to prefer getting COVID to getting the vaccine.
I don't agree. My older daughter got the chicken pox. there was no vaccine back then. Most kids during her childhood got chickenpox as did my generation not sure about any long term effects and with her it was not a traumatic experience. By my next kid there was a vaccine which she got. Now older kid still has immunity other one does not.
I think natural immunity is better.
I had chicken pox as a kid. I had a terrible case- they were down my throat which caused a severe sore throat, on the soles of my feet, in my scalp etc.
I remember missing like a week of school.
It sucked, but back then, you just got chicken pox and moved on. There was no vaccine.
I have no issue giving my DD the chicken pox vaccine though. I see no reason for her to have to get something that will knock her out for a week. In addition there's no choice- it's mandatory for school.
However I do know that chicken pox can be way more serious in adults.
The thing with most illness is- children's immune systems are like super charged. As you age , so does your immune system.
Hence why most diseases are more serious in older people.
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by GoldenRod
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
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99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
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Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
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https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
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It’s actually better if you get the chicken pox and not the vaccine - you have better immunity. This is what our ped told us when our 11 month old was covered head to toe in chicken pox… unfortunately it made it difficult to register him for school because the form didn’t print out the vaccine exception for it.
It is not better to get the chicken pox than get the vaccine. The ONLY benefit you will have is better immunity from the chicken pox but getting the chicken pox can also have serious long term side effects while getting the chicken pox vaccine typically does not. Not to mention the chicken pox can be extremely painful and uncomfortable, especially if you get it as an older child, young adult or adult. It is almost never better to get the disease itself than get the vaccine.
TBH I think the same is probably true of COVID in terms of immunity but I think if the vaccine was as effective as the chicken pox vaccine and was around as long with little to no long term side effects, you would be crazy to prefer getting COVID to getting the vaccine.
I don't agree. My older daughter got the chicken pox. there was no vaccine back then. Most kids during her childhood got chickenpox as did my generation not sure about any long term effects and with her it was not a traumatic experience. By my next kid there was a vaccine which she got. Now older kid still has immunity other one does not.
I think natural immunity is better.
I had chicken pox as a kid. I had a terrible case- they were down my throat which caused a severe sore throat, on the soles of my feet, in my scalp etc.
I remember missing like a week of school.
It sucked, but back then, you just got chicken pox and moved on. There was no vaccine.
I have no issue giving my DD the chicken pox vaccine though. I see no reason for her to have to get something that will knock her out for a week. In addition there's no choice- it's mandatory for school.
However I do know that chicken pox can be way more serious in adults.
The thing with most illness is- children's immune systems are like super charged. As you age , so does your immune system.
Hence why most diseases are more serious in older people.
Exactly. People had "chicken pox parties" because it was better to get it while you were young and the case would most likely be less severe but only because there was NO VACCINE. Getting it young was to avoid getting a severe case when you were older. I think a lot of people still don't understand how severe chicken pox can be which is why there is a vaccine for it now,
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by GoldenRod
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
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99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
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Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
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https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
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It’s actually better if you get the chicken pox and not the vaccine - you have better immunity. This is what our ped told us when our 11 month old was covered head to toe in chicken pox… unfortunately it made it difficult to register him for school because the form didn’t print out the vaccine exception for it.
It is not better to get the chicken pox than get the vaccine. The ONLY benefit you will have is better immunity from the chicken pox but getting the chicken pox can also have serious long term side effects while getting the chicken pox vaccine typically does not. Not to mention the chicken pox can be extremely painful and uncomfortable, especially if you get it as an older child, young adult or adult. It is almost never better to get the disease itself than get the vaccine.
TBH I think the same is probably true of COVID in terms of immunity but I think if the vaccine was as effective as the chicken pox vaccine and was around as long with little to no long term side effects, you would be crazy to prefer getting COVID to getting the vaccine.
I don't agree. My older daughter got the chicken pox. there was no vaccine back then. Most kids during her childhood got chickenpox as did my generation not sure about any long term effects and with her it was not a traumatic experience. By my next kid there was a vaccine which she got. Now older kid still has immunity other one does not.
I think natural immunity is better.
I got it too, as well as my sisters and brother. No traumatic experience for us either. I agree with other comments about research though, but just like with covid, a lot of the info that’s out there (at least the ones that are easily accessible) are in favor of the chickenpox vaccine without mentioning shedding, possible risks, and completely dismissing the benefits that can come with natural disease like lifetime immunity, possible protection against things like heart disease, atopic diseases, cancers, among other things. Censorship regarding vaccines is something that has been happening for quite some time and not just with the creation of the covid vaccine. I think that as parents, information should be easily accessible (by personal research, through our doctors, etc). Information that clearly shows us the good, the bad, and the ugly so then we can make a better informed decision for what’s best for our children, whether that decision is to vaccinate, space out vaccines, or to not vaccinate. This simply cannot be done if we only hear one side of the story while the other side in erased.
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| Posted 8/27/21 11:21 AM |
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by GoldenRod
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
...
99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
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Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
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https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
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It’s actually better if you get the chicken pox and not the vaccine - you have better immunity. This is what our ped told us when our 11 month old was covered head to toe in chicken pox… unfortunately it made it difficult to register him for school because the form didn’t print out the vaccine exception for it.
It is not better to get the chicken pox than get the vaccine. The ONLY benefit you will have is better immunity from the chicken pox but getting the chicken pox can also have serious long term side effects while getting the chicken pox vaccine typically does not. Not to mention the chicken pox can be extremely painful and uncomfortable, especially if you get it as an older child, young adult or adult. It is almost never better to get the disease itself than get the vaccine.
TBH I think the same is probably true of COVID in terms of immunity but I think if the vaccine was as effective as the chicken pox vaccine and was around as long with little to no long term side effects, you would be crazy to prefer getting COVID to getting the vaccine.
I don't agree. My older daughter got the chicken pox. there was no vaccine back then. Most kids during her childhood got chickenpox as did my generation not sure about any long term effects and with her it was not a traumatic experience. By my next kid there was a vaccine which she got. Now older kid still has immunity other one does not.
I think natural immunity is better.
I got it too, as well as my sisters and brother. No traumatic experience for us either. I agree with other comments about research though, but just like with covid, a lot of the info that’s out there (at least the ones that are easily accessible) are in favor of the chickenpox vaccine without mentioning shedding, possible risks, and completely dismissing the benefits that can come with natural disease like lifetime immunity, possible protection against things like heart disease, atopic diseases, cancers, among other things. Censorship regarding vaccines is something that has been happening for quite some time and not just with the creation of the covid vaccine. I think that as parents, information should be easily accessible (by personal research, through our doctors, etc). Information that clearly shows us the good, the bad, and the ugly so then we can make a better informed decision for what’s best for our children, whether that decision is to vaccinate, space out vaccines, or to not vaccinate. This simply cannot be done if we only hear one side of the story while the other side in erased.
So true!!! but how can they know the long term effects when there has been no long term studies or animal studies. They expect us to blindly trust that there are no future effects,
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by GoldenRod
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
...
99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
...
Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
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https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
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It’s actually better if you get the chicken pox and not the vaccine - you have better immunity. This is what our ped told us when our 11 month old was covered head to toe in chicken pox… unfortunately it made it difficult to register him for school because the form didn’t print out the vaccine exception for it.
It is not better to get the chicken pox than get the vaccine. The ONLY benefit you will have is better immunity from the chicken pox but getting the chicken pox can also have serious long term side effects while getting the chicken pox vaccine typically does not. Not to mention the chicken pox can be extremely painful and uncomfortable, especially if you get it as an older child, young adult or adult. It is almost never better to get the disease itself than get the vaccine.
TBH I think the same is probably true of COVID in terms of immunity but I think if the vaccine was as effective as the chicken pox vaccine and was around as long with little to no long term side effects, you would be crazy to prefer getting COVID to getting the vaccine.
I don't agree. My older daughter got the chicken pox. there was no vaccine back then. Most kids during her childhood got chickenpox as did my generation not sure about any long term effects and with her it was not a traumatic experience. By my next kid there was a vaccine which she got. Now older kid still has immunity other one does not.
I think natural immunity is better.
I got it too, as well as my sisters and brother. No traumatic experience for us either. I agree with other comments about research though, but just like with covid, a lot of the info that’s out there (at least the ones that are easily accessible) are in favor of the chickenpox vaccine without mentioning shedding, possible risks, and completely dismissing the benefits that can come with natural disease like lifetime immunity, possible protection against things like heart disease, atopic diseases, cancers, among other things. Censorship regarding vaccines is something that has been happening for quite some time and not just with the creation of the covid vaccine. I think that as parents, information should be easily accessible (by personal research, through our doctors, etc). Information that clearly shows us the good, the bad, and the ugly so then we can make a better informed decision for what’s best for our children, whether that decision is to vaccinate, space out vaccines, or to not vaccinate. This simply cannot be done if we only hear one side of the story while the other side in erased.
So true!!! but how can they know the long term effects when there has been no long term studies or animal studies. They expect us to blindly trust that there are no future effects,
We also have no long term studies on how CoVid can effect the body, either. It’s tough. But that’s what helped make me feel better about getting the vaccine.
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by Jenhos
I just find it ironic that the CDC is pushing vaccines yet they don’t require their employees to get it.
False. CDC employees are under Dept of HHS and must abide by federal gov’t mandates for vaccinations
https://www.10tv.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/cdc-white-house-fda-moderna-pfizer-johnson-mandate-covid-vaccines-employees/536-e2080147-2e26-4b79-8451-13ceac2e44b8https://www.10tv.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/cdc-white-house-fda-moderna-pfizer-johnson-mandate-covid-vaccines-employees/536-e2080147-2e26-4b79-8451-13ceac2e44b8
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| Posted 8/28/21 1:52 AM |
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PitterPatter11
Baby Boy is Here!
Member since 5/11 7619 total posts
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by GoldenRod
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
...
99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
...
Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
...
https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
...
It’s actually better if you get the chicken pox and not the vaccine - you have better immunity. This is what our ped told us when our 11 month old was covered head to toe in chicken pox… unfortunately it made it difficult to register him for school because the form didn’t print out the vaccine exception for it.
It is not better to get the chicken pox than get the vaccine. The ONLY benefit you will have is better immunity from the chicken pox but getting the chicken pox can also have serious long term side effects while getting the chicken pox vaccine typically does not. Not to mention the chicken pox can be extremely painful and uncomfortable, especially if you get it as an older child, young adult or adult. It is almost never better to get the disease itself than get the vaccine.
TBH I think the same is probably true of COVID in terms of immunity but I think if the vaccine was as effective as the chicken pox vaccine and was around as long with little to no long term side effects, you would be crazy to prefer getting COVID to getting the vaccine.
I don't agree. My older daughter got the chicken pox. there was no vaccine back then. Most kids during her childhood got chickenpox as did my generation not sure about any long term effects and with her it was not a traumatic experience. By my next kid there was a vaccine which she got. Now older kid still has immunity other one does not.
I think natural immunity is better.
I had chicken pox as a kid. I had a terrible case- they were down my throat which caused a severe sore throat, on the soles of my feet, in my scalp etc.
I remember missing like a week of school.
It sucked, but back then, you just got chicken pox and moved on. There was no vaccine.
I have no issue giving my DD the chicken pox vaccine though. I see no reason for her to have to get something that will knock her out for a week. In addition there's no choice- it's mandatory for school.
However I do know that chicken pox can be way more serious in adults.
The thing with most illness is- children's immune systems are like super charged. As you age , so does your immune system.
Hence why most diseases are more serious in older people.
Exactly. People had "chicken pox parties" because it was better to get it while you were young and the case would most likely be less severe but only because there was NO VACCINE. Getting it young was to avoid getting a severe case when you were older. I think a lot of people still don't understand how severe chicken pox can be which is why there is a vaccine for it now,
This.
I never had the chicken pox and am in a generation where everyone got the chicken pox. I remember my brothers got it and my mom wanted me and my sister to play with them so we would get it. We didn’t. I remember them being uncomfortable for days. Why would I want to experience that. I got the vaccine when it became available and then needed a booster a decade later since when I originally got it my parents never took me for the second dose so my titers were low.
When I polled my 125 students last year, only ONE had had the chicken pox. I know that is a small sample size, but every year for the last decade the results have been similar. While chicken pox hasn’t been eradicated, the vaccine has been very effective at virtually eliminating transmission.
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ali120206
2 Boys
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Re: Vaccine Misconceptions?
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by lululu
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by 3girls1dog
Posted by lululu
Posted by ali120206
Posted by GoldenRod
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
Vaccine Effectiveness
Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.
...
99% to 100% technically means that there could be breakthrough cases, but so few that we've eliminated the spread.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/chickenpox.php
...
Can you get chickenpox if you've been vaccinated?
Yes. About 15% – 20% of people who have received one dose of varicella (chickenpox) vaccine do still get chickenpox if they are exposed, but their disease is usually mild. Vaccinated persons who get chickenpox generally have fewer than 50 spots or bumps, which may resemble bug bites more than typical, fluid-filled chickenpox blisters. In 2006, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to recommend routine two-dose varicella vaccination for children. In one study, children who received two doses of varicella vaccine were three times less likely to get chickenpox than individuals who have had only one dose.
...
https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2019/may/mumps#:~:text=During%20a%20mumps%20outbreak%2C%20people,with%20those%20who%20aren't.
Before vaccination against mumps became widespread in 1967, it was common for Americans to experience the fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, puffy cheeks, and swollen jaw caused by this contagious disease.
In the more than 50 years since, though, it’s become much rarer. The MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella, is very effective — it lowers your risk of getting the mumps by about 88 percent and has greatly reduced the number of mumps cases in the US.
“However, outbreaks can still occur when people aren’t vaccinated or don’t receive MMR booster shots, as the original immunization can become less effective over time,” explained Karen McGeehan, MD, physician at Penn Family Medicine Chestnut Hill. Since 2006, many US cities – including Philadelphia -- have reported outbreaks of this disease.
...
It’s actually better if you get the chicken pox and not the vaccine - you have better immunity. This is what our ped told us when our 11 month old was covered head to toe in chicken pox… unfortunately it made it difficult to register him for school because the form didn’t print out the vaccine exception for it.
It is not better to get the chicken pox than get the vaccine. The ONLY benefit you will have is better immunity from the chicken pox but getting the chicken pox can also have serious long term side effects while getting the chicken pox vaccine typically does not. Not to mention the chicken pox can be extremely painful and uncomfortable, especially if you get it as an older child, young adult or adult. It is almost never better to get the disease itself than get the vaccine.
TBH I think the same is probably true of COVID in terms of immunity but I think if the vaccine was as effective as the chicken pox vaccine and was around as long with little to no long term side effects, you would be crazy to prefer getting COVID to getting the vaccine.
I don't agree. My older daughter got the chicken pox. there was no vaccine back then. Most kids during her childhood got chickenpox as did my generation not sure about any long term effects and with her it was not a traumatic experience. By my next kid there was a vaccine which she got. Now older kid still has immunity other one does not.
I think natural immunity is better.
I had chicken pox as a kid. I had a terrible case- they were down my throat which caused a severe sore throat, on the soles of my feet, in my scalp etc.
I remember missing like a week of school.
It sucked, but back then, you just got chicken pox and moved on. There was no vaccine.
I have no issue giving my DD the chicken pox vaccine though. I see no reason for her to have to get something that will knock her out for a week. In addition there's no choice- it's mandatory for school.
However I do know that chicken pox can be way more serious in adults.
The thing with most illness is- children's immune systems are like super charged. As you age , so does your immune system.
Hence why most diseases are more serious in older people.
Exactly. People had "chicken pox parties" because it was better to get it while you were young and the case would most likely be less severe but only because there was NO VACCINE. Getting it young was to avoid getting a severe case when you were older. I think a lot of people still don't understand how severe chicken pox can be which is why there is a vaccine for it now,
This.
I never had the chicken pox and am in a generation where everyone got the chicken pox. I remember my brothers got it and my mom wanted me and my sister to play with them so we would get it. We didn’t. I remember them being uncomfortable for days. Why would I want to experience that. I got the vaccine when it became available and then needed a booster a decade later since when I originally got it my parents never took me for the second dose so my titers were low.
When I polled my 125 students last year, only ONE had had the chicken pox. I know that is a small sample size, but every year for the last decade the results have been similar. While chicken pox hasn’t been eradicated, the vaccine has been very effective at virtually eliminating transmission.
I do have to say that the chicken pox vaccine seems to work in this case as the only impacted children were unvaccinated. Those who were just vaccinated a month or two before didn’t get it (it was through a kid who traveled abroad at daycare - who knew they were exposed).
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