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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
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But if your vaccine is keeping you out of the hospital as it's designed, why do you care if all those ignorant unvaxed end up sick or hospitalized? If people want to gamble with their life let them. Get your readily available vaccine and boosters and protect yourself.
From what I understand (writing this very quickly) is that they haven’t gotten another piece of the puzzle with regards to herd immunity. But if 40% of the population doesn’t want to get the vaccine it makes the other 60% of those vaccinated more of a struggle to get to an illness where it really is more of flu instead of this unpredictable thing and unpredictable herd immunity.
At this point I know I have a bit of protection now according to research and will just most likely suffer from cold-like symptoms. I’m happy with that, but I’d really like to see more people help with it because who knows what will happen next year.
They have a 3G rule here. The prefix ge- is for past tense and it means geimpft (vaccinated), genesen (healed), getestet (tested). You need to follow that with certain places and I hope it soon goes to 2G (vaccinated and healed). They are making the people pay for tests beginning in October. The school I work at now requires testing three times a week or vaccination or healed.
So it would be nice to have the part of the rest of the public. Just saying.
So what if next year the people who got the vaccines already say they are not going to get anymore and won’t accept the booster? Numbers will most likely go down honestly as many are not willing to keep doing this every year. The booster supposedly is not protecting against variants and just basically a 3rd shot.
How do you know when your vaccine will “expire” also and not be working anymore for you?
I’m doing what I can now. You keep asking the same questions, sigh.
Yeah I do as people want to avoid that question as it is really up in the air what comes next and they have already said that the vaccine doesn’t work as well with some people and not as long.
You are only thinking about today which defeats the purpose of trying to eradicate this as much as we can.
No one knows what will happen in the future. I’m not willing to waste time on something when scientific research tells me what I can do now.
ETA: you seem to be stuck on the past. Move on.
Yes they know this vaccine lasts about 8 months and not everyone will have the same effectiveness.
That means people who got it in January and February could possibly not have the same effectiveness now.
I know exactly what it means. I don’t need an explanation.
The effectiveness of those who got it in Jan or Feb needed help from the rest of the population. Instead that time was wasted arguing on social media.
ETA: it probably means that those who did their part aren’t going to do your part about fighting mandates. Just saying.
So now we have to worry about those people? Ones who ran for the vaccine that was told it would last at least a year and then they would just get another yearly shot?
Many of those people don’t want the booster either so they will be in your category of selfish, horrible people who will now need help from others.
I would hardly consider myself selfish. I wear my mask still and will continue to do so. I cannot understand how people are so against masks. Do people get this upset that they have to wear clothes? Are you still wearing your mask? I get the impression that you are not.
I did my part and got the vaccine, after debating it for a long time. It isn’t selfish to not help with mandates. Plus you have a *choice* to get a vaccine or do weekly tests. If you refuse to even do a weekly test to keep your job, then I don’t know what to tell you. Everyone has to do various things to get various jobs. If you don’t do it, you don’t get/keep the job.
I don’t have answers. You don’t seem to have answers. Scientists know a bit more about it. But they don’t have all the answers. I’m doing what I see as the best alternative for me and society based on figures.
I dunno, maybe because the mask does nothing in majority of cases.
We aren’t wearing the n95 masks for starters. The ones we buy on Amazon and in drugstores do nothing. I go grocery shopping and spend a couple seconds next to people. I have plexiglass between myself and the cashier who I spend maybe two minutes in close contact with.
What’s the point of wearing a mask when I’m just walking past people?
School….that’s an entirely different beast. The schools should provide masks that guarantee protection from Covid if they want to force these children to wear a mask all day in hot classrooms. Oh, they can’t do that because they can’t guarantee it protects from Covid….
This is probably a little off topic, but not really, but since you brought up the mask stuff. My daughter's school just said that anyone in band has to get a special mask that they can wear while playing their instrument. I have no idea what that is but I imagine it has some kind of slot in it to put the instrument through to put it to your mouth.
Someone said....but wait, doesn't air(aka your BREATH)come out the end of wind instruments?
So unless they put a mask on the end of that saxophone or clarinet, what's the point?
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by Raging2020
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Posted by NervousNell
But if your vaccine is keeping you out of the hospital as it's designed, why do you care if all those ignorant unvaxed end up sick or hospitalized? If people want to gamble with their life let them. Get your readily available vaccine and boosters and protect yourself.
From what I understand (writing this very quickly) is that they haven’t gotten another piece of the puzzle with regards to herd immunity. But if 40% of the population doesn’t want to get the vaccine it makes the other 60% of those vaccinated more of a struggle to get to an illness where it really is more of flu instead of this unpredictable thing and unpredictable herd immunity.
At this point I know I have a bit of protection now according to research and will just most likely suffer from cold-like symptoms. I’m happy with that, but I’d really like to see more people help with it because who knows what will happen next year.
They have a 3G rule here. The prefix ge- is for past tense and it means geimpft (vaccinated), genesen (healed), getestet (tested). You need to follow that with certain places and I hope it soon goes to 2G (vaccinated and healed). They are making the people pay for tests beginning in October. The school I work at now requires testing three times a week or vaccination or healed.
So it would be nice to have the part of the rest of the public. Just saying.
So what if next year the people who got the vaccines already say they are not going to get anymore and won’t accept the booster? Numbers will most likely go down honestly as many are not willing to keep doing this every year. The booster supposedly is not protecting against variants and just basically a 3rd shot.
How do you know when your vaccine will “expire” also and not be working anymore for you?
I’m doing what I can now. You keep asking the same questions, sigh.
Yeah I do as people want to avoid that question as it is really up in the air what comes next and they have already said that the vaccine doesn’t work as well with some people and not as long.
You are only thinking about today which defeats the purpose of trying to eradicate this as much as we can.
No one knows what will happen in the future. I’m not willing to waste time on something when scientific research tells me what I can do now.
ETA: you seem to be stuck on the past. Move on.
Yes they know this vaccine lasts about 8 months and not everyone will have the same effectiveness.
That means people who got it in January and February could possibly not have the same effectiveness now.
I know exactly what it means. I don’t need an explanation.
The effectiveness of those who got it in Jan or Feb needed help from the rest of the population. Instead that time was wasted arguing on social media.
ETA: it probably means that those who did their part aren’t going to do your part about fighting mandates. Just saying.
So now we have to worry about those people? Ones who ran for the vaccine that was told it would last at least a year and then they would just get another yearly shot?
Many of those people don’t want the booster either so they will be in your category of selfish, horrible people who will now need help from others.
I would hardly consider myself selfish. I wear my mask still and will continue to do so. I cannot understand how people are so against masks. Do people get this upset that they have to wear clothes? Are you still wearing your mask? I get the impression that you are not.
I did my part and got the vaccine, after debating it for a long time. It isn’t selfish to not help with mandates. Plus you have a *choice* to get a vaccine or do weekly tests. If you refuse to even do a weekly test to keep your job, then I don’t know what to tell you. Everyone has to do various things to get various jobs. If you don’t do it, you don’t get/keep the job.
I don’t have answers. You don’t seem to have answers. Scientists know a bit more about it. But they don’t have all the answers. I’m doing what I see as the best alternative for me and society based on figures.
I dunno, maybe because the mask does nothing in majority of cases.
We aren’t wearing the n95 masks for starters. The ones we buy on Amazon and in drugstores do nothing. I go grocery shopping and spend a couple seconds next to people. I have plexiglass between myself and the cashier who I spend maybe two minutes in close contact with.
What’s the point of wearing a mask when I’m just walking past people?
School….that’s an entirely different beast. The schools should provide masks that guarantee protection from Covid if they want to force these children to wear a mask all day in hot classrooms. Oh, they can’t do that because they can’t guarantee it protects from Covid….
How do you know masks do nothing? There are studies that say it does something, even surgical masks.
There are no guarantees in life, well except taxes and death.
No one can guarantee any of this is working 100%.
So what do you propose we do? Go back to the way we were before the pandemic? Do nothing? Live with it, when things are showing that *some* things help? I seriously don’t know what the answer is.
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
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How do you know masks do nothing? There are studies that say it does something, even surgical masks.
There are no guarantees in life, well except taxes and death.
No one can guarantee any of this is working 100%.
So what do you propose we do? Go back to the way we were before the pandemic? Do nothing? Live with it, when things are showing that *some* things help? I seriously don’t know what the answer is.
What do you expect us to do? Continue to get vaccinated with something that clearly does not work and is harming more people than people really think. When is enough enough?
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Raging2020
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by NervousNell
But if your vaccine is keeping you out of the hospital as it's designed, why do you care if all those ignorant unvaxed end up sick or hospitalized? If people want to gamble with their life let them. Get your readily available vaccine and boosters and protect yourself.
From what I understand (writing this very quickly) is that they haven’t gotten another piece of the puzzle with regards to herd immunity. But if 40% of the population doesn’t want to get the vaccine it makes the other 60% of those vaccinated more of a struggle to get to an illness where it really is more of flu instead of this unpredictable thing and unpredictable herd immunity.
At this point I know I have a bit of protection now according to research and will just most likely suffer from cold-like symptoms. I’m happy with that, but I’d really like to see more people help with it because who knows what will happen next year.
They have a 3G rule here. The prefix ge- is for past tense and it means geimpft (vaccinated), genesen (healed), getestet (tested). You need to follow that with certain places and I hope it soon goes to 2G (vaccinated and healed). They are making the people pay for tests beginning in October. The school I work at now requires testing three times a week or vaccination or healed.
So it would be nice to have the part of the rest of the public. Just saying.
So what if next year the people who got the vaccines already say they are not going to get anymore and won’t accept the booster? Numbers will most likely go down honestly as many are not willing to keep doing this every year. The booster supposedly is not protecting against variants and just basically a 3rd shot.
How do you know when your vaccine will “expire” also and not be working anymore for you?
I’m doing what I can now. You keep asking the same questions, sigh.
Yeah I do as people want to avoid that question as it is really up in the air what comes next and they have already said that the vaccine doesn’t work as well with some people and not as long.
You are only thinking about today which defeats the purpose of trying to eradicate this as much as we can.
No one knows what will happen in the future. I’m not willing to waste time on something when scientific research tells me what I can do now.
ETA: you seem to be stuck on the past. Move on.
Yes they know this vaccine lasts about 8 months and not everyone will have the same effectiveness.
That means people who got it in January and February could possibly not have the same effectiveness now.
I know exactly what it means. I don’t need an explanation.
The effectiveness of those who got it in Jan or Feb needed help from the rest of the population. Instead that time was wasted arguing on social media.
ETA: it probably means that those who did their part aren’t going to do your part about fighting mandates. Just saying.
So now we have to worry about those people? Ones who ran for the vaccine that was told it would last at least a year and then they would just get another yearly shot?
Many of those people don’t want the booster either so they will be in your category of selfish, horrible people who will now need help from others.
I would hardly consider myself selfish. I wear my mask still and will continue to do so. I cannot understand how people are so against masks. Do people get this upset that they have to wear clothes? Are you still wearing your mask? I get the impression that you are not.
I did my part and got the vaccine, after debating it for a long time. It isn’t selfish to not help with mandates. Plus you have a *choice* to get a vaccine or do weekly tests. If you refuse to even do a weekly test to keep your job, then I don’t know what to tell you. Everyone has to do various things to get various jobs. If you don’t do it, you don’t get/keep the job.
I don’t have answers. You don’t seem to have answers. Scientists know a bit more about it. But they don’t have all the answers. I’m doing what I see as the best alternative for me and society based on figures.
I dunno, maybe because the mask does nothing in majority of cases.
We aren’t wearing the n95 masks for starters. The ones we buy on Amazon and in drugstores do nothing. I go grocery shopping and spend a couple seconds next to people. I have plexiglass between myself and the cashier who I spend maybe two minutes in close contact with.
What’s the point of wearing a mask when I’m just walking past people?
School….that’s an entirely different beast. The schools should provide masks that guarantee protection from Covid if they want to force these children to wear a mask all day in hot classrooms. Oh, they can’t do that because they can’t guarantee it protects from Covid….
This is probably a little off topic, but not really, but since you brought up the mask stuff. My daughter's school just said that anyone in band has to get a special mask that they can wear while playing their instrument. I have no idea what that is but I imagine it has some kind of slot in it to put the instrument through to put it to your mouth.
Someone said....but wait, doesn't air(aka your BREATH)come out the end of wind instruments?
So unless they put a mask on the end of that saxophone or clarinet, what's the point?
This will never end until every instrument is fully masked.
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NervousNell
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Raging2020
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by NervousNell
But if your vaccine is keeping you out of the hospital as it's designed, why do you care if all those ignorant unvaxed end up sick or hospitalized? If people want to gamble with their life let them. Get your readily available vaccine and boosters and protect yourself.
From what I understand (writing this very quickly) is that they haven’t gotten another piece of the puzzle with regards to herd immunity. But if 40% of the population doesn’t want to get the vaccine it makes the other 60% of those vaccinated more of a struggle to get to an illness where it really is more of flu instead of this unpredictable thing and unpredictable herd immunity.
At this point I know I have a bit of protection now according to research and will just most likely suffer from cold-like symptoms. I’m happy with that, but I’d really like to see more people help with it because who knows what will happen next year.
They have a 3G rule here. The prefix ge- is for past tense and it means geimpft (vaccinated), genesen (healed), getestet (tested). You need to follow that with certain places and I hope it soon goes to 2G (vaccinated and healed). They are making the people pay for tests beginning in October. The school I work at now requires testing three times a week or vaccination or healed.
So it would be nice to have the part of the rest of the public. Just saying.
So what if next year the people who got the vaccines already say they are not going to get anymore and won’t accept the booster? Numbers will most likely go down honestly as many are not willing to keep doing this every year. The booster supposedly is not protecting against variants and just basically a 3rd shot.
How do you know when your vaccine will “expire” also and not be working anymore for you?
I’m doing what I can now. You keep asking the same questions, sigh.
Yeah I do as people want to avoid that question as it is really up in the air what comes next and they have already said that the vaccine doesn’t work as well with some people and not as long.
You are only thinking about today which defeats the purpose of trying to eradicate this as much as we can.
No one knows what will happen in the future. I’m not willing to waste time on something when scientific research tells me what I can do now.
ETA: you seem to be stuck on the past. Move on.
Yes they know this vaccine lasts about 8 months and not everyone will have the same effectiveness.
That means people who got it in January and February could possibly not have the same effectiveness now.
I know exactly what it means. I don’t need an explanation.
The effectiveness of those who got it in Jan or Feb needed help from the rest of the population. Instead that time was wasted arguing on social media.
ETA: it probably means that those who did their part aren’t going to do your part about fighting mandates. Just saying.
So now we have to worry about those people? Ones who ran for the vaccine that was told it would last at least a year and then they would just get another yearly shot?
Many of those people don’t want the booster either so they will be in your category of selfish, horrible people who will now need help from others.
I would hardly consider myself selfish. I wear my mask still and will continue to do so. I cannot understand how people are so against masks. Do people get this upset that they have to wear clothes? Are you still wearing your mask? I get the impression that you are not.
I did my part and got the vaccine, after debating it for a long time. It isn’t selfish to not help with mandates. Plus you have a *choice* to get a vaccine or do weekly tests. If you refuse to even do a weekly test to keep your job, then I don’t know what to tell you. Everyone has to do various things to get various jobs. If you don’t do it, you don’t get/keep the job.
I don’t have answers. You don’t seem to have answers. Scientists know a bit more about it. But they don’t have all the answers. I’m doing what I see as the best alternative for me and society based on figures.
I dunno, maybe because the mask does nothing in majority of cases.
We aren’t wearing the n95 masks for starters. The ones we buy on Amazon and in drugstores do nothing. I go grocery shopping and spend a couple seconds next to people. I have plexiglass between myself and the cashier who I spend maybe two minutes in close contact with.
What’s the point of wearing a mask when I’m just walking past people?
School….that’s an entirely different beast. The schools should provide masks that guarantee protection from Covid if they want to force these children to wear a mask all day in hot classrooms. Oh, they can’t do that because they can’t guarantee it protects from Covid….
This is probably a little off topic, but not really, but since you brought up the mask stuff. My daughter's school just said that anyone in band has to get a special mask that they can wear while playing their instrument. I have no idea what that is but I imagine it has some kind of slot in it to put the instrument through to put it to your mouth.
Someone said....but wait, doesn't air(aka your BREATH)come out the end of wind instruments?
So unless they put a mask on the end of that saxophone or clarinet, what's the point?
This will never end until every instrument is fully masked.
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Raging2020
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by NervousNell
But if your vaccine is keeping you out of the hospital as it's designed, why do you care if all those ignorant unvaxed end up sick or hospitalized? If people want to gamble with their life let them. Get your readily available vaccine and boosters and protect yourself.
From what I understand (writing this very quickly) is that they haven’t gotten another piece of the puzzle with regards to herd immunity. But if 40% of the population doesn’t want to get the vaccine it makes the other 60% of those vaccinated more of a struggle to get to an illness where it really is more of flu instead of this unpredictable thing and unpredictable herd immunity.
At this point I know I have a bit of protection now according to research and will just most likely suffer from cold-like symptoms. I’m happy with that, but I’d really like to see more people help with it because who knows what will happen next year.
They have a 3G rule here. The prefix ge- is for past tense and it means geimpft (vaccinated), genesen (healed), getestet (tested). You need to follow that with certain places and I hope it soon goes to 2G (vaccinated and healed). They are making the people pay for tests beginning in October. The school I work at now requires testing three times a week or vaccination or healed.
So it would be nice to have the part of the rest of the public. Just saying.
So what if next year the people who got the vaccines already say they are not going to get anymore and won’t accept the booster? Numbers will most likely go down honestly as many are not willing to keep doing this every year. The booster supposedly is not protecting against variants and just basically a 3rd shot.
How do you know when your vaccine will “expire” also and not be working anymore for you?
I’m doing what I can now. You keep asking the same questions, sigh.
Yeah I do as people want to avoid that question as it is really up in the air what comes next and they have already said that the vaccine doesn’t work as well with some people and not as long.
You are only thinking about today which defeats the purpose of trying to eradicate this as much as we can.
No one knows what will happen in the future. I’m not willing to waste time on something when scientific research tells me what I can do now.
ETA: you seem to be stuck on the past. Move on.
Yes they know this vaccine lasts about 8 months and not everyone will have the same effectiveness.
That means people who got it in January and February could possibly not have the same effectiveness now.
I know exactly what it means. I don’t need an explanation.
The effectiveness of those who got it in Jan or Feb needed help from the rest of the population. Instead that time was wasted arguing on social media.
ETA: it probably means that those who did their part aren’t going to do your part about fighting mandates. Just saying.
So now we have to worry about those people? Ones who ran for the vaccine that was told it would last at least a year and then they would just get another yearly shot?
Many of those people don’t want the booster either so they will be in your category of selfish, horrible people who will now need help from others.
I would hardly consider myself selfish. I wear my mask still and will continue to do so. I cannot understand how people are so against masks. Do people get this upset that they have to wear clothes? Are you still wearing your mask? I get the impression that you are not.
I did my part and got the vaccine, after debating it for a long time. It isn’t selfish to not help with mandates. Plus you have a *choice* to get a vaccine or do weekly tests. If you refuse to even do a weekly test to keep your job, then I don’t know what to tell you. Everyone has to do various things to get various jobs. If you don’t do it, you don’t get/keep the job.
I don’t have answers. You don’t seem to have answers. Scientists know a bit more about it. But they don’t have all the answers. I’m doing what I see as the best alternative for me and society based on figures.
I dunno, maybe because the mask does nothing in majority of cases.
We aren’t wearing the n95 masks for starters. The ones we buy on Amazon and in drugstores do nothing. I go grocery shopping and spend a couple seconds next to people. I have plexiglass between myself and the cashier who I spend maybe two minutes in close contact with.
What’s the point of wearing a mask when I’m just walking past people?
School….that’s an entirely different beast. The schools should provide masks that guarantee protection from Covid if they want to force these children to wear a mask all day in hot classrooms. Oh, they can’t do that because they can’t guarantee it protects from Covid….
How do you know masks do nothing? There are studies that say it does something, even surgical masks.
There are no guarantees in life, well except taxes and death.
No one can guarantee any of this is working 100%.
So what do you propose we do? Go back to the way we were before the pandemic? Do nothing? Live with it, when things are showing that *some* things help? I seriously don’t know what the answer is.
They don’t do much. It’s more the not touching your face/mouth while wearing a mask that does anything. The actual mask doesn’t do much unless you sneeze or cough….which you can do into your elbow or something?
I’ve been living my life pre pandemic, as have all my family and friends. Guess what….no Covid. The elders are vaccinated as they should be. If anyone is sick they don’t come around. And we wash our hands etc.
This is all out of control. We were just talking about flu season at work. When someone is our family had flu the rest of us still went to work and sent the other kids to school. I don’t understand the over the top craziness at this point. Our understanding of Covid has changed and we can treat people now and those that are at risk can get vaccinated and/or wear a mask if it makes them feel better.
Another example. People have life threatening peanut allergies. Just by touching a surface with peanuts they can die. Do we outlaw peanuts? No those at risk take precautions on their own to stay healthy. Why is this so different almost 2 years later??
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by klingklang77
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Posted by klingklang77
Posted by NervousNell
But if your vaccine is keeping you out of the hospital as it's designed, why do you care if all those ignorant unvaxed end up sick or hospitalized? If people want to gamble with their life let them. Get your readily available vaccine and boosters and protect yourself.
From what I understand (writing this very quickly) is that they haven’t gotten another piece of the puzzle with regards to herd immunity. But if 40% of the population doesn’t want to get the vaccine it makes the other 60% of those vaccinated more of a struggle to get to an illness where it really is more of flu instead of this unpredictable thing and unpredictable herd immunity.
At this point I know I have a bit of protection now according to research and will just most likely suffer from cold-like symptoms. I’m happy with that, but I’d really like to see more people help with it because who knows what will happen next year.
They have a 3G rule here. The prefix ge- is for past tense and it means geimpft (vaccinated), genesen (healed), getestet (tested). You need to follow that with certain places and I hope it soon goes to 2G (vaccinated and healed). They are making the people pay for tests beginning in October. The school I work at now requires testing three times a week or vaccination or healed.
So it would be nice to have the part of the rest of the public. Just saying.
So what if next year the people who got the vaccines already say they are not going to get anymore and won’t accept the booster? Numbers will most likely go down honestly as many are not willing to keep doing this every year. The booster supposedly is not protecting against variants and just basically a 3rd shot.
How do you know when your vaccine will “expire” also and not be working anymore for you?
I’m doing what I can now. You keep asking the same questions, sigh.
Yeah I do as people want to avoid that question as it is really up in the air what comes next and they have already said that the vaccine doesn’t work as well with some people and not as long.
You are only thinking about today which defeats the purpose of trying to eradicate this as much as we can.
No one knows what will happen in the future. I’m not willing to waste time on something when scientific research tells me what I can do now.
ETA: you seem to be stuck on the past. Move on.
Yes they know this vaccine lasts about 8 months and not everyone will have the same effectiveness.
That means people who got it in January and February could possibly not have the same effectiveness now.
I know exactly what it means. I don’t need an explanation.
The effectiveness of those who got it in Jan or Feb needed help from the rest of the population. Instead that time was wasted arguing on social media.
ETA: it probably means that those who did their part aren’t going to do your part about fighting mandates. Just saying.
So now we have to worry about those people? Ones who ran for the vaccine that was told it would last at least a year and then they would just get another yearly shot?
Many of those people don’t want the booster either so they will be in your category of selfish, horrible people who will now need help from others.
I would hardly consider myself selfish. I wear my mask still and will continue to do so. I cannot understand how people are so against masks. Do people get this upset that they have to wear clothes? Are you still wearing your mask? I get the impression that you are not.
I did my part and got the vaccine, after debating it for a long time. It isn’t selfish to not help with mandates. Plus you have a *choice* to get a vaccine or do weekly tests. If you refuse to even do a weekly test to keep your job, then I don’t know what to tell you. Everyone has to do various things to get various jobs. If you don’t do it, you don’t get/keep the job.
I don’t have answers. You don’t seem to have answers. Scientists know a bit more about it. But they don’t have all the answers. I’m doing what I see as the best alternative for me and society based on figures.
I wear a mask where required.
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by NervousNell
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But if your vaccine is keeping you out of the hospital as it's designed, why do you care if all those ignorant unvaxed end up sick or hospitalized? If people want to gamble with their life let them. Get your readily available vaccine and boosters and protect yourself.
From what I understand (writing this very quickly) is that they haven’t gotten another piece of the puzzle with regards to herd immunity. But if 40% of the population doesn’t want to get the vaccine it makes the other 60% of those vaccinated more of a struggle to get to an illness where it really is more of flu instead of this unpredictable thing and unpredictable herd immunity.
At this point I know I have a bit of protection now according to research and will just most likely suffer from cold-like symptoms. I’m happy with that, but I’d really like to see more people help with it because who knows what will happen next year.
They have a 3G rule here. The prefix ge- is for past tense and it means geimpft (vaccinated), genesen (healed), getestet (tested). You need to follow that with certain places and I hope it soon goes to 2G (vaccinated and healed). They are making the people pay for tests beginning in October. The school I work at now requires testing three times a week or vaccination or healed.
So it would be nice to have the part of the rest of the public. Just saying.
So what if next year the people who got the vaccines already say they are not going to get anymore and won’t accept the booster? Numbers will most likely go down honestly as many are not willing to keep doing this every year. The booster supposedly is not protecting against variants and just basically a 3rd shot.
How do you know when your vaccine will “expire” also and not be working anymore for you?
I’m doing what I can now. You keep asking the same questions, sigh.
Yeah I do as people want to avoid that question as it is really up in the air what comes next and they have already said that the vaccine doesn’t work as well with some people and not as long.
You are only thinking about today which defeats the purpose of trying to eradicate this as much as we can.
No one knows what will happen in the future. I’m not willing to waste time on something when scientific research tells me what I can do now.
ETA: you seem to be stuck on the past. Move on.
Yes they know this vaccine lasts about 8 months and not everyone will have the same effectiveness.
That means people who got it in January and February could possibly not have the same effectiveness now.
I know exactly what it means. I don’t need an explanation.
The effectiveness of those who got it in Jan or Feb needed help from the rest of the population. Instead that time was wasted arguing on social media.
ETA: it probably means that those who did their part aren’t going to do your part about fighting mandates. Just saying.
So now we have to worry about those people? Ones who ran for the vaccine that was told it would last at least a year and then they would just get another yearly shot?
Many of those people don’t want the booster either so they will be in your category of selfish, horrible people who will now need help from others.
I would hardly consider myself selfish. I wear my mask still and will continue to do so. I cannot understand how people are so against masks. Do people get this upset that they have to wear clothes? Are you still wearing your mask? I get the impression that you are not.
I did my part and got the vaccine, after debating it for a long time. It isn’t selfish to not help with mandates. Plus you have a *choice* to get a vaccine or do weekly tests. If you refuse to even do a weekly test to keep your job, then I don’t know what to tell you. Everyone has to do various things to get various jobs. If you don’t do it, you don’t get/keep the job.
I don’t have answers. You don’t seem to have answers. Scientists know a bit more about it. But they don’t have all the answers. I’m doing what I see as the best alternative for me and society based on figures.
I dunno, maybe because the mask does nothing in majority of cases.
We aren’t wearing the n95 masks for starters. The ones we buy on Amazon and in drugstores do nothing. I go grocery shopping and spend a couple seconds next to people. I have plexiglass between myself and the cashier who I spend maybe two minutes in close contact with.
What’s the point of wearing a mask when I’m just walking past people?
School….that’s an entirely different beast. The schools should provide masks that guarantee protection from Covid if they want to force these children to wear a mask all day in hot classrooms. Oh, they can’t do that because they can’t guarantee it protects from Covid….
This is probably a little off topic, but not really, but since you brought up the mask stuff. My daughter's school just said that anyone in band has to get a special mask that they can wear while playing their instrument. I have no idea what that is but I imagine it has some kind of slot in it to put the instrument through to put it to your mouth.
Someone said....but wait, doesn't air(aka your BREATH)come out the end of wind instruments?
So unless they put a mask on the end of that saxophone or clarinet, what's the point?
Just stupid and no common sense.
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by Raging2020
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Raging2020
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by NervousNell
But if your vaccine is keeping you out of the hospital as it's designed, why do you care if all those ignorant unvaxed end up sick or hospitalized? If people want to gamble with their life let them. Get your readily available vaccine and boosters and protect yourself.
From what I understand (writing this very quickly) is that they haven’t gotten another piece of the puzzle with regards to herd immunity. But if 40% of the population doesn’t want to get the vaccine it makes the other 60% of those vaccinated more of a struggle to get to an illness where it really is more of flu instead of this unpredictable thing and unpredictable herd immunity.
At this point I know I have a bit of protection now according to research and will just most likely suffer from cold-like symptoms. I’m happy with that, but I’d really like to see more people help with it because who knows what will happen next year.
They have a 3G rule here. The prefix ge- is for past tense and it means geimpft (vaccinated), genesen (healed), getestet (tested). You need to follow that with certain places and I hope it soon goes to 2G (vaccinated and healed). They are making the people pay for tests beginning in October. The school I work at now requires testing three times a week or vaccination or healed.
So it would be nice to have the part of the rest of the public. Just saying.
So what if next year the people who got the vaccines already say they are not going to get anymore and won’t accept the booster? Numbers will most likely go down honestly as many are not willing to keep doing this every year. The booster supposedly is not protecting against variants and just basically a 3rd shot.
How do you know when your vaccine will “expire” also and not be working anymore for you?
I’m doing what I can now. You keep asking the same questions, sigh.
Yeah I do as people want to avoid that question as it is really up in the air what comes next and they have already said that the vaccine doesn’t work as well with some people and not as long.
You are only thinking about today which defeats the purpose of trying to eradicate this as much as we can.
No one knows what will happen in the future. I’m not willing to waste time on something when scientific research tells me what I can do now.
ETA: you seem to be stuck on the past. Move on.
Yes they know this vaccine lasts about 8 months and not everyone will have the same effectiveness.
That means people who got it in January and February could possibly not have the same effectiveness now.
I know exactly what it means. I don’t need an explanation.
The effectiveness of those who got it in Jan or Feb needed help from the rest of the population. Instead that time was wasted arguing on social media.
ETA: it probably means that those who did their part aren’t going to do your part about fighting mandates. Just saying.
So now we have to worry about those people? Ones who ran for the vaccine that was told it would last at least a year and then they would just get another yearly shot?
Many of those people don’t want the booster either so they will be in your category of selfish, horrible people who will now need help from others.
I would hardly consider myself selfish. I wear my mask still and will continue to do so. I cannot understand how people are so against masks. Do people get this upset that they have to wear clothes? Are you still wearing your mask? I get the impression that you are not.
I did my part and got the vaccine, after debating it for a long time. It isn’t selfish to not help with mandates. Plus you have a *choice* to get a vaccine or do weekly tests. If you refuse to even do a weekly test to keep your job, then I don’t know what to tell you. Everyone has to do various things to get various jobs. If you don’t do it, you don’t get/keep the job.
I don’t have answers. You don’t seem to have answers. Scientists know a bit more about it. But they don’t have all the answers. I’m doing what I see as the best alternative for me and society based on figures.
I dunno, maybe because the mask does nothing in majority of cases.
We aren’t wearing the n95 masks for starters. The ones we buy on Amazon and in drugstores do nothing. I go grocery shopping and spend a couple seconds next to people. I have plexiglass between myself and the cashier who I spend maybe two minutes in close contact with.
What’s the point of wearing a mask when I’m just walking past people?
School….that’s an entirely different beast. The schools should provide masks that guarantee protection from Covid if they want to force these children to wear a mask all day in hot classrooms. Oh, they can’t do that because they can’t guarantee it protects from Covid….
How do you know masks do nothing? There are studies that say it does something, even surgical masks.
There are no guarantees in life, well except taxes and death.
No one can guarantee any of this is working 100%.
So what do you propose we do? Go back to the way we were before the pandemic? Do nothing? Live with it, when things are showing that *some* things help? I seriously don’t know what the answer is.
They don’t do much. It’s more the not touching your face/mouth while wearing a mask that does anything. The actual mask doesn’t do much unless you sneeze or cough….which you can do into your elbow or something?
I’ve been living my life pre pandemic, as have all my family and friends. Guess what….no Covid. The elders are vaccinated as they should be. If anyone is sick they don’t come around. And we wash our hands etc.
This is all out of control. We were just talking about flu season at work. When someone is our family had flu the rest of us still went to work and sent the other kids to school. I don’t understand the over the top craziness at this point. Our understanding of Covid has changed and we can treat people now and those that are at risk can get vaccinated and/or wear a mask if it makes them feel better.
Another example. People have life threatening peanut allergies. Just by touching a surface with peanuts they can die. Do we outlaw peanuts? No those at risk take precautions on their own to stay healthy. Why is this so different almost 2 years later??
Same with friends and family and have been like this before the vaccine.
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ChilisWife
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
I don't want to quote long pages but regarding everyone who is upset that people won't make an effort by getting vaccinated, masking, distancing, staying home, etc. My question is, when is the government going to do THEIR part by, for example:
- Closing the borders or requiring vaccines at the border instead of allowing millions of non-citizens come in and go everywhere in the US. In fact take it a step further and stop permitting international travel for awhile. People don't need to go to Europe and Asia or anywhere right now. If we have to do our part, then do our part. If we are giving up our freedoms, then let's go all the way.
- Permitting doctors to prescribe therapeutic treatments because whether people like it or not, there ARE effective treatments and yet the propaganda continues to lie about them not being effective. Because they are cheap. And because they work. And because they refuse to admit that they know very very little about this vaccine but are in too deep to stop the train wreck.
- Promoting a healthy lifestyle because obesity is the #1 risk factor for covid issues. Yet instead they allow beer, donuts, Mcdonalds and even marijuana as incentives to get vaccinated. It makes zero sense. Since the US is a fascist dictator mandating machine now anyway, why are they not MANDATING exercise and BANNING soda and fast food? Again, freedom is super overrated. What is most important is compliance. Obviously.
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by ChilisWife
I don't want to quote long pages but regarding everyone who is upset that people won't make an effort by getting vaccinated, masking, distancing, staying home, etc. My question is, when is the government going to do THEIR part by, for example:
- Closing the borders or requiring vaccines at the border instead of allowing millions of non-citizens come in and go everywhere in the US. In fact take it a step further and stop permitting international travel for awhile. People don't need to go to Europe and Asia or anywhere right now. If we have to do our part, then do our part. If we are giving up our freedoms, then let's go all the way.
- Permitting doctors to prescribe therapeutic treatments because whether people like it or not, there ARE effective treatments and yet the propaganda continues to lie about them not being effective. Because they are cheap. And because they work. And because they refuse to admit that they know very very little about this vaccine but are in too deep to stop the train wreck.
- Promoting a healthy lifestyle because obesity is the #1 risk factor for covid issues. Yet instead they allow beer, donuts, Mcdonalds and even marijuana as incentives to get vaccinated. It makes zero sense. Since the US is a fascist dictator mandating machine now anyway, why are they not MANDATING exercise and BANNING soda and fast food? Again, freedom is super overrated. What is most important is compliance. Obviously.
Couldn’t agree with u more on all the points u mentioned. Just to add to the first point...the irony of this administration to mandate businesses of 100 people or more to force their employees to get vaccinated while allowing people at the border to cross without a vaccine. This mandate does not apply to them.
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by ChilisWife
I don't want to quote long pages but regarding everyone who is upset that people won't make an effort by getting vaccinated, masking, distancing, staying home, etc. My question is, when is the government going to do THEIR part by, for example:
- Closing the borders or requiring vaccines at the border instead of allowing millions of non-citizens come in and go everywhere in the US. In fact take it a step further and stop permitting international travel for awhile. People don't need to go to Europe and Asia or anywhere right now. If we have to do our part, then do our part. If we are giving up our freedoms, then let's go all the way.
- Permitting doctors to prescribe therapeutic treatments because whether people like it or not, there ARE effective treatments and yet the propaganda continues to lie about them not being effective. Because they are cheap. And because they work. And because they refuse to admit that they know very very little about this vaccine but are in too deep to stop the train wreck.
- Promoting a healthy lifestyle because obesity is the #1 risk factor for covid issues. Yet instead they allow beer, donuts, Mcdonalds and even marijuana as incentives to get vaccinated. It makes zero sense. Since the US is a fascist dictator mandating machine now anyway, why are they not MANDATING exercise and BANNING soda and fast food? Again, freedom is super overrated. What is most important is compliance. Obviously.
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| Posted 9/12/21 2:53 PM |
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lululu
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by NervousNell
This is probably a little off topic, but not really, but since you brought up the mask stuff. My daughter's school just said that anyone in band has to get a special mask that they can wear while playing their instrument. I have no idea what that is but I imagine it has some kind of slot in it to put the instrument through to put it to your mouth.
Someone said....but wait, doesn't air(aka your BREATH)come out the end of wind instruments?
So unless they put a mask on the end of that saxophone or clarinet, what's the point?
This will never end until every instrument is fully masked.
I know this is a joke, but they actually put something over the part of the instrument that the air blows out. So effectively the instrument is masked. We had to get the special masks for the kids last year and this was a large debate at our BOE meeting last year as to the safety of wind instruments during covid. They also moved band outside any time weather was permitting and made them switch to percussion over the colder months.
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