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73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
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I have a question for all those who are willing/able to homeschool indefinitely. What do you and your spouse do for a living?
I don't know anyone IRL who has the ability to do this.
Really? You know nobody who is a SAHM? Or anyone where they work opposite schedules with their spouse? My sil works days, and my bil nights-they actually work at the same place, so she works 730-3, he brings the kids to work, and then he works 330-11 and she takes them home.
I feel like I know so many people in situations like these-or where one spouse works part time and grandparents watch the kids, etc.
No. I don’t know any SAHMs. I don’t know anyone who works opposite schedules, either.
I know a few people who have grandparents babysit, but they all work full time. I doubt any of them would have their kids fully educated by grandparents.
The difference here lies in choice. I have no desire to ever homeschool. I would venture to guess most parents don’t want to homeschool. There is a huge difference between choosing to quit your job to homeschool and being forced to quit your job to homeschool.
ETA I certainly wouldn’t quit my job to homeschool and I don’t think most, if not all of the women I know would, either. I don’t know if it’s social or economic but it’s unheard of in my and DH’s circles for someone to stay home. We’d have to hire nannies or tutors.
We’re not the problem. What are the people who can’t afford nannies or tutors supposed to do? Who is going to care for their kids while they work?
Also, the whole “can you make it work on one salary” bit is obnoxious. Not everyone wants to throw their career away. It isn’t always an economic decision to work. It floors me when people don’t understand that.
I’m surprised, that’s all. My dh and I are both highly educated, and I know loads of people who stay at home-with my immediate neighbors, actually, only two mothers work full time m-f jobs. After my last was born, I resigned and won’t return to working for years. Two are nurses and work three days a week, two work part time in schools now that their kids are older (they stayed home until their youngest was in kinder), and one works very few hours part time while her kids are at school (and not daily). So, out of 8 neighbors with kids, only 2 work full time.
I am a SAHM and even I think you are coming off a little bit smug. Not everyone wants to stay home. That does not make them any less of a mother.
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
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I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
My friend is a pediatric physician at a local hospital and the kids were almost exclusively healthy previously. I wish that wasn’t the case 
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
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I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
My friend is a pediatric physician at a local hospital and the kids were almost exclusively healthy previously. I wish that wasn’t the case
That is very sad to hear. My heart breaks for the families of the 3 children who died. However, I am still not panicked. That could change tomorrow, but for now, I am not. Everyone has to do what they are comfortable with. I have said from day one that in September, schools should give parents the option. Any parent who wants to keep their child home, should be provided with a curriculum and allowed to do so.
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
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I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
My friend is a pediatric physician at a local hospital and the kids were almost exclusively healthy previously. I wish that wasn’t the case
That is very sad to hear. My heart breaks for the families of the 3 children who died. However, I am still not panicked. That could change tomorrow, but for now, I am not. Everyone has to do what they are comfortable with. I have said from day one that in September, schools should give parents the option. Any parent who wants to keep their child home, should be provided with a curriculum and allowed to do so.
Oh I agree with you! I was just addressing the one question about underlying conditions. Ugh this whole ordeal is just awful...
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
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I have a question for all those who are willing/able to homeschool indefinitely. What do you and your spouse do for a living?
I don't know anyone IRL who has the ability to do this.
I am a part time accountant and have always worked from home so theoretically I could home school my children indefinitely but the workload they are getting now is not even close to what I would have to do if I were truly home schooling them to the level of education they would receive in school. I am not sure I could home school three different aged children and get my job done without losing my mind.
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
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I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
My friend is a pediatric physician at a local hospital and the kids were almost exclusively healthy previously. I wish that wasn’t the case
That is very sad to hear. My heart breaks for the families of the 3 children who died. However, I am still not panicked. That could change tomorrow, but for now, I am not. Everyone has to do what they are comfortable with. I have said from day one that in September, schools should give parents the option. Any parent who wants to keep their child home, should be provided with a curriculum and allowed to do so.
Doesn’t everyone have that option now?
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
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I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
My friend is a pediatric physician at a local hospital and the kids were almost exclusively healthy previously. I wish that wasn’t the case
That is very sad to hear. My heart breaks for the families of the 3 children who died. However, I am still not panicked. That could change tomorrow, but for now, I am not. Everyone has to do what they are comfortable with. I have said from day one that in September, schools should give parents the option. Any parent who wants to keep their child home, should be provided with a curriculum and allowed to do so.
Doesn’t everyone have that option now?
No, because schools aren't open. And when they are open, parents do not have the option to keep their children home and have the school provide you with a curriculum. Homeschooling is not the same as what is going on right now- which is crisis schooling.
I feel like schools should reopen in September, especially if we keep on this downward trend. In less than two months, we have been able to bring ourselves right back to where we were on March 15th, which is right before the sh!t hit the fan with this virus. Imagine how much better we can be by September 1st if we keep at this? Any parent who does not want to send their child, would be able to get a remote learning curriculum from their child's school. JMO.
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
I think what I want to know- before I panic- is how many children in the country have Covid antibodies vs how many are getting this mystery illness.
I have a feeling if we truly were able to test all children we would see a LOT more have antibodies than we think. Especially considering how Covid has presented in children as very mild and easily mistaken for a common cold or some other benign illness.
And with schools open until Mid March, I would bet that it was running rampant through schools until then.
So lets say a lot more have had it then we know- what is the TRUE percentage of children who have had the virus who then present with this complication down the road?
Because I have feeling if we had a true number of children who have Covid antibodies vs how many are showing this new illness now, the percentages would be lower than we think. And it would be a rare complication just like Kawasaki always was in children who had viral illnesses.
Just something to consider.
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
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I think what I want to know- before I panic- is how many children in the country have Covid antibodies vs how many are getting this mystery illness.
I have a feeling if we truly were able to test all children we would see a LOT more have antibodies than we think. Especially considering how Covid has presented in children as very mild and easily mistaken for a common cold or some other benign illness.
And with schools open until Mid March, I would bet that it was running rampant through schools until then.
So lets say a lot more have had it then we know- what is the TRUE percentage of children who have had the virus who then present with this complication down the road?
Because I have feeling if we had a true number of children who have Covid antibodies vs how many are showing this new illness now, the percentages would be lower than we think. And it would be a rare complication just like Kawasaki always was in children who had viral illnesses.
Just something to consider.
This is a good point. I’ll use this as my mantra later when I can’t breathe 
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Katareen
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Hopefulmama
Posted by Naturalmama
I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
My friend is a pediatric physician at a local hospital and the kids were almost exclusively healthy previously. I wish that wasn’t the case
That is very sad to hear. My heart breaks for the families of the 3 children who died. However, I am still not panicked. That could change tomorrow, but for now, I am not. Everyone has to do what they are comfortable with. I have said from day one that in September, schools should give parents the option. Any parent who wants to keep their child home, should be provided with a curriculum and allowed to do so.
Doesn’t everyone have that option now?
No, because schools aren't open. And when they are open, parents do not have the option to keep their children home and have the school provide you with a curriculum. Homeschooling is not the same as what is going on right now- which is crisis schooling.
I feel like schools should reopen in September, especially if we keep on this downward trend. In less than two months, we have been able to bring ourselves right back to where we were on March 15th, which is right before the sh!t hit the fan with this virus. Imagine how much better we can be by September 1st if we keep at this? Any parent who does not want to send their child, would be able to get a remote learning curriculum from their child's school. JMO.
Teaching in the classroom is a full time job.
Teaching remotely is undoubtedly double the work load of teaching in a classroom.
As a teacher, the thought of doing BOTH in the fall make me want to quit. It would be impossible for districts to expect this of their teachers.
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
Posted by NervousNell
I think what I want to know- before I panic- is how many children in the country have Covid antibodies vs how many are getting this mystery illness.
I have a feeling if we truly were able to test all children we would see a LOT more have antibodies than we think. Especially considering how Covid has presented in children as very mild and easily mistaken for a common cold or some other benign illness.
And with schools open until Mid March, I would bet that it was running rampant through schools until then.
So lets say a lot more have had it then we know- what is the TRUE percentage of children who have had the virus who then present with this complication down the road?
Because I have feeling if we had a true number of children who have Covid antibodies vs how many are showing this new illness now, the percentages would be lower than we think. And it would be a rare complication just like Kawasaki always was in children who had viral illnesses.
Just something to consider.
This is likely true. The assumption was that children weren't getting the virus. That may very well have not been the case- the cases in children were just very mild. Not to mention we were (and still are) very short on tests.
The inflammatory response being seen is basically the immune system going into overdrive. That is MORE likely to happen in healthy children without pre-existing conditions. It isn't COVID specific at all. It can happen after any illness.
My heart breaks for these families.
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
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I have a question for all those who are willing/able to homeschool indefinitely. What do you and your spouse do for a living?
I don't know anyone IRL who has the ability to do this.
Really? You know nobody who is a SAHM? Or anyone where they work opposite schedules with their spouse? My sil works days, and my bil nights-they actually work at the same place, so she works 730-3, he brings the kids to work, and then he works 330-11 and she takes them home.
I feel like I know so many people in situations like these-or where one spouse works part time and grandparents watch the kids, etc.
No. I don’t know any SAHMs. I don’t know anyone who works opposite schedules, either.
I know a few people who have grandparents babysit, but they all work full time. I doubt any of them would have their kids fully educated by grandparents.
The difference here lies in choice. I have no desire to ever homeschool. I would venture to guess most parents don’t want to homeschool. There is a huge difference between choosing to quit your job to homeschool and being forced to quit your job to homeschool.
ETA I certainly wouldn’t quit my job to homeschool and I don’t think most, if not all of the women I know would, either. I don’t know if it’s social or economic but it’s unheard of in my and DH’s circles for someone to stay home. We’d have to hire nannies or tutors.
We’re not the problem. What are the people who can’t afford nannies or tutors supposed to do? Who is going to care for their kids while they work?
Also, the whole “can you make it work on one salary” bit is obnoxious. Not everyone wants to throw their career away. It isn’t always an economic decision to work. It floors me when people don’t understand that.
I’m surprised, that’s all. My dh and I are both highly educated, and I know loads of people who stay at home-with my immediate neighbors, actually, only two mothers work full time m-f jobs. After my last was born, I resigned and won’t return to working for years. Two are nurses and work three days a week, two work part time in schools now that their kids are older (they stayed home until their youngest was in kinder), and one works very few hours part time while her kids are at school (and not daily). So, out of 8 neighbors with kids, only 2 work full time.
I hope you realize how incredibly blessed, and privileged, you and your neighbors are.
In many, many families, having one nicole and one parent at home is a luxury and not the norm.
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I have a question for all those who are willing/able to homeschool indefinitely. What do you and your spouse do for a living?
I don't know anyone IRL who has the ability to do this.
Really? You know nobody who is a SAHM? Or anyone where they work opposite schedules with their spouse? My sil works days, and my bil nights-they actually work at the same place, so she works 730-3, he brings the kids to work, and then he works 330-11 and she takes them home.
I feel like I know so many people in situations like these-or where one spouse works part time and grandparents watch the kids, etc.
No. I don’t know any SAHMs. I don’t know anyone who works opposite schedules, either.
I know a few people who have grandparents babysit, but they all work full time. I doubt any of them would have their kids fully educated by grandparents.
The difference here lies in choice. I have no desire to ever homeschool. I would venture to guess most parents don’t want to homeschool. There is a huge difference between choosing to quit your job to homeschool and being forced to quit your job to homeschool.
ETA I certainly wouldn’t quit my job to homeschool and I don’t think most, if not all of the women I know would, either. I don’t know if it’s social or economic but it’s unheard of in my and DH’s circles for someone to stay home. We’d have to hire nannies or tutors.
We’re not the problem. What are the people who can’t afford nannies or tutors supposed to do? Who is going to care for their kids while they work?
Also, the whole “can you make it work on one salary” bit is obnoxious. Not everyone wants to throw their career away. It isn’t always an economic decision to work. It floors me when people don’t understand that.
I’m surprised, that’s all. My dh and I are both highly educated, and I know loads of people who stay at home-with my immediate neighbors, actually, only two mothers work full time m-f jobs. After my last was born, I resigned and won’t return to working for years. Two are nurses and work three days a week, two work part time in schools now that their kids are older (they stayed home until their youngest was in kinder), and one works very few hours part time while her kids are at school (and not daily). So, out of 8 neighbors with kids, only 2 work full time.
I am a SAHM and even I think you are coming off a little bit smug. Not everyone wants to stay home. That does not make them any less of a mother.
You’re right. I’m sorry-I think I’ve been a bit on edge lately.
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
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Posted by Naturalmama
I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
My friend is a pediatric physician at a local hospital and the kids were almost exclusively healthy previously. I wish that wasn’t the case
That is very sad to hear. My heart breaks for the families of the 3 children who died. However, I am still not panicked. That could change tomorrow, but for now, I am not. Everyone has to do what they are comfortable with. I have said from day one that in September, schools should give parents the option. Any parent who wants to keep their child home, should be provided with a curriculum and allowed to do so.
Doesn’t everyone have that option now?
No, because schools aren't open. And when they are open, parents do not have the option to keep their children home and have the school provide you with a curriculum. Homeschooling is not the same as what is going on right now- which is crisis schooling.
I feel like schools should reopen in September, especially if we keep on this downward trend. In less than two months, we have been able to bring ourselves right back to where we were on March 15th, which is right before the sh!t hit the fan with this virus. Imagine how much better we can be by September 1st if we keep at this? Any parent who does not want to send their child, would be able to get a remote learning curriculum from their child's school. JMO.
Teaching in the classroom is a full time job.
Teaching remotely is undoubtedly double the work load of teaching in a classroom.
As a teacher, the thought of doing BOTH in the fall make me want to quit. It would be impossible for districts to expect this of their teachers.
I am a teacher as well, I agree with you. I was more thinking the the kids staying home would follow a general district curriculum, and not be assigned a teacher. I would prefer that to what is more likely to happen- children coming in half day shifts, or on an A/B day schedule. That would undoubtedly have us teachers doing lesson plans and work for both in person & at home learning. I am not sure what the answer is, but children can't stay home from school indefinitely.
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| Posted 5/10/20 4:09 PM |
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Katareen
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Katareen
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Hopefulmama
Posted by Naturalmama
I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
My friend is a pediatric physician at a local hospital and the kids were almost exclusively healthy previously. I wish that wasn’t the case
That is very sad to hear. My heart breaks for the families of the 3 children who died. However, I am still not panicked. That could change tomorrow, but for now, I am not. Everyone has to do what they are comfortable with. I have said from day one that in September, schools should give parents the option. Any parent who wants to keep their child home, should be provided with a curriculum and allowed to do so.
Doesn’t everyone have that option now?
No, because schools aren't open. And when they are open, parents do not have the option to keep their children home and have the school provide you with a curriculum. Homeschooling is not the same as what is going on right now- which is crisis schooling.
I feel like schools should reopen in September, especially if we keep on this downward trend. In less than two months, we have been able to bring ourselves right back to where we were on March 15th, which is right before the sh!t hit the fan with this virus. Imagine how much better we can be by September 1st if we keep at this? Any parent who does not want to send their child, would be able to get a remote learning curriculum from their child's school. JMO.
No I absolutely know this is not homeschooling. The families I know that homeschool are actually rarely at home!
Are the NY common core standards not available to the public (genuinely asking)? I know teachers work their asses off on their individual lesson plans every year and would probably not just give them up.
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| Posted 5/10/20 5:58 PM |
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Katareen
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
Posted by LMichele
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Katareen
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Hopefulmama
Posted by Naturalmama
I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
My friend is a pediatric physician at a local hospital and the kids were almost exclusively healthy previously. I wish that wasn’t the case
That is very sad to hear. My heart breaks for the families of the 3 children who died. However, I am still not panicked. That could change tomorrow, but for now, I am not. Everyone has to do what they are comfortable with. I have said from day one that in September, schools should give parents the option. Any parent who wants to keep their child home, should be provided with a curriculum and allowed to do so.
Doesn’t everyone have that option now?
No, because schools aren't open. And when they are open, parents do not have the option to keep their children home and have the school provide you with a curriculum. Homeschooling is not the same as what is going on right now- which is crisis schooling.
I feel like schools should reopen in September, especially if we keep on this downward trend. In less than two months, we have been able to bring ourselves right back to where we were on March 15th, which is right before the sh!t hit the fan with this virus. Imagine how much better we can be by September 1st if we keep at this? Any parent who does not want to send their child, would be able to get a remote learning curriculum from their child's school. JMO.
Teaching in the classroom is a full time job.
Teaching remotely is undoubtedly double the work load of teaching in a classroom.
As a teacher, the thought of doing BOTH in the fall make me want to quit. It would be impossible for districts to expect this of their teachers.
I’m not teaching and I agree with you! The amount of work that goes into yearly lesson plans is not something that you just want to blindly pass out to 30 families every year. Not unless there is additional compensation (which we know won’t happen).
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| Posted 5/10/20 6:01 PM |
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
Posted by Katareen
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Katareen
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Hopefulmama
Posted by Naturalmama
I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
My friend is a pediatric physician at a local hospital and the kids were almost exclusively healthy previously. I wish that wasn’t the case
That is very sad to hear. My heart breaks for the families of the 3 children who died. However, I am still not panicked. That could change tomorrow, but for now, I am not. Everyone has to do what they are comfortable with. I have said from day one that in September, schools should give parents the option. Any parent who wants to keep their child home, should be provided with a curriculum and allowed to do so.
Doesn’t everyone have that option now?
No, because schools aren't open. And when they are open, parents do not have the option to keep their children home and have the school provide you with a curriculum. Homeschooling is not the same as what is going on right now- which is crisis schooling.
I feel like schools should reopen in September, especially if we keep on this downward trend. In less than two months, we have been able to bring ourselves right back to where we were on March 15th, which is right before the sh!t hit the fan with this virus. Imagine how much better we can be by September 1st if we keep at this? Any parent who does not want to send their child, would be able to get a remote learning curriculum from their child's school. JMO.
No I absolutely know this is not homeschooling. The families I know that homeschool are actually rarely at home!
Are the NY common core standards not available to the public (genuinely asking)? I know teachers work their asses off on their individual lesson plans every year and would probably not just give them up.
The standards are absolutely available. I check them to make sure my kids learn everything they “should” in a given year.
As for lesson plans, those are very different. That’s the way each individual teacher goes about teaching those standards.
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| Posted 5/10/20 6:26 PM |
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
Posted by Katareen
Posted by LMichele
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Katareen
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Hopefulmama
Posted by Naturalmama
I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
My friend is a pediatric physician at a local hospital and the kids were almost exclusively healthy previously. I wish that wasn’t the case
That is very sad to hear. My heart breaks for the families of the 3 children who died. However, I am still not panicked. That could change tomorrow, but for now, I am not. Everyone has to do what they are comfortable with. I have said from day one that in September, schools should give parents the option. Any parent who wants to keep their child home, should be provided with a curriculum and allowed to do so.
Doesn’t everyone have that option now?
No, because schools aren't open. And when they are open, parents do not have the option to keep their children home and have the school provide you with a curriculum. Homeschooling is not the same as what is going on right now- which is crisis schooling.
I feel like schools should reopen in September, especially if we keep on this downward trend. In less than two months, we have been able to bring ourselves right back to where we were on March 15th, which is right before the sh!t hit the fan with this virus. Imagine how much better we can be by September 1st if we keep at this? Any parent who does not want to send their child, would be able to get a remote learning curriculum from their child's school. JMO.
Teaching in the classroom is a full time job.
Teaching remotely is undoubtedly double the work load of teaching in a classroom.
As a teacher, the thought of doing BOTH in the fall make me want to quit. It would be impossible for districts to expect this of their teachers.
I’m not teaching and I agree with you! The amount of work that goes into yearly lesson plans is not something that you just want to blindly pass out to 30 families every year. Not unless there is additional compensation (which we know won’t happen).
Right. If they’d be expected to do the extra work, the union would be the first one demanding compensation for teachers. I never had to teach during a pandemic, but my teacher friends tell me that their union started doing so already when they had to work during days they weren’t supposed to.
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| Posted 5/10/20 6:27 PM |
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
Posted by mommywantsababy
Posted by Katareen
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Katareen
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Hopefulmama
Posted by Naturalmama
I am not in denial. I can't speak for others, but I would like to hear all of the facts before I panic. Nobody knows yet how many of these children had other health conditions. There are some children who tested negative for both the virus and the antibodies. I am not saying there is no correlation, I am saying I refuse to put myself into a state of hysteria just yet.
Believe it or not, it is possible to be concerned about this virus, want to protect the vulnerable of society, and still be worried about the economic ramifications of this. Today the NYT times put out a projection of a 25% unemployment rate by June 1st. Cuomo himself has said we are quickly approaching a time when teachers, health care workers, firefighters, and law enforcement will begin to get laid off, because there is no money to pay them. How anyone could not find that terrifying is beyond me.
I saw an article where someone at a food pantry said they had to turn people away because there was no more food. Imagine waiting in line for hours, desperate to feed your child, only to be told there is no food. Has anyone on this board ever had to deny their child a meal? Have to spend day after day worrying that their child will starve? That you will all wind up in a shelter or on the streets?
Overall, I think LI is a very privileged area of our country. Most people here just can't comprehend what some people go through. Go into the poorest areas of the 5 boroughs, and guarantee your heart will break. I've seen children picking through trash with their parents hoping to find something to eat. Please stop telling people who truly fear for the financial future of this country that they are in denial and just want to throw our kids back in school and go out to dinner. This problem runs far deeper than that. There but for the grace of God go I.
My friend is a pediatric physician at a local hospital and the kids were almost exclusively healthy previously. I wish that wasn’t the case
That is very sad to hear. My heart breaks for the families of the 3 children who died. However, I am still not panicked. That could change tomorrow, but for now, I am not. Everyone has to do what they are comfortable with. I have said from day one that in September, schools should give parents the option. Any parent who wants to keep their child home, should be provided with a curriculum and allowed to do so.
Doesn’t everyone have that option now?
No, because schools aren't open. And when they are open, parents do not have the option to keep their children home and have the school provide you with a curriculum. Homeschooling is not the same as what is going on right now- which is crisis schooling.
I feel like schools should reopen in September, especially if we keep on this downward trend. In less than two months, we have been able to bring ourselves right back to where we were on March 15th, which is right before the sh!t hit the fan with this virus. Imagine how much better we can be by September 1st if we keep at this? Any parent who does not want to send their child, would be able to get a remote learning curriculum from their child's school. JMO.
No I absolutely know this is not homeschooling. The families I know that homeschool are actually rarely at home!
Are the NY common core standards not available to the public (genuinely asking)? I know teachers work their asses off on their individual lesson plans every year and would probably not just give them up.
The standards are absolutely available. I check them to make sure my kids learn everything they “should” in a given year.
As for lesson plans, those are very different. That’s the way each individual teacher goes about teaching those standards.
Right Katareen, homeschooling parents do a good amount of the teaching not at home. This is how this quarantine crap is affecting my family, the programs my sons were doing got all cancelled.
Mommywantsababy, there are some homeschool curriculums that actually incorporate common core in the lessons. So if a parent decides to use one of those curriculums, they can totally do so.
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| Posted 5/10/20 6:33 PM |
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by mommywantsababy
Posted by Katareen
No I absolutely know this is not homeschooling. The families I know that homeschool are actually rarely at home!
Are the NY common core standards not available to the public (genuinely asking)? I know teachers work their asses off on their individual lesson plans every year and would probably not just give them up.
The standards are absolutely available. I check them to make sure my kids learn everything they “should” in a given year.
As for lesson plans, those are very different. That’s the way each individual teacher goes about teaching those standards.
Right Katareen, homeschooling parents do a good amount of the teaching not at home. This is how this quarantine crap is affecting my family, the programs my sons were doing got all cancelled.
Mommywantsababy, there are some homeschool curriculums that actually incorporate common core in the lessons. So if a parent decides to use one of those curriculums, they can totally do so.
Oh I know! I was just responding to teachers giving up lesson plans.
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| Posted 5/10/20 6:45 PM |
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
Let me just say my oldest DD had Kawasaki disease when she was 8 months old (if you do a search here back in 2008 you can see some of my posts) That was one of the SCARIEST times of my life. I will just say that we were extremely LUCKY and I can't emphasize how LUCKY we were that DDs pediatrician at the time had enough experience at the time to correctly diagnose Kawasaki and because she did DD was able to get a plasma transfusion early enough that thankfully she avoided any long term effects. DD was on aspirin therapy for weeks after and for the next 5 years she had to have echo cardiograms of her heart in order to make sure that there were no long lasting effects. We held our breaths every single time we took her for a follow up. It's been almost 12 years now and it still makes me nervous to think of what could have happened so I hope to GOD...pray so hard that this is not a widespread result of COVID. Kawasaki disease is a rare disease that usually affects Asian boys and it's thought that it can originate from many places including carpet cleaners which we think is where DD got it from.
This entire virus is so scary and unpredictable.
ETA and even with all that I know of only a handful of people who are able to stay home and homeschool their kids. Realistically most people especially those in HCOL need to have both parents working in order to support their household. It's just crazy town that we are in this situation right now.
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| Posted 5/10/20 7:32 PM |
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
This is the most informative article I have found on this. It’s a little lengthy but goes in to explain how they think it may be a delayed immune response to having had the virus previously. I also just a read a child in California died from it.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86393
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BargainMama
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73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
Probably from all the cleaning products being used!
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| Posted 5/11/20 9:24 AM |
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Re: 73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness
Posted by BargainMama
Probably from all the cleaning products being used!
someone's drinking the lysol
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| Posted 5/11/20 11:07 AM |
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