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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
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I guess parents dont care if their kids are sitting in a classroom of 40 students and 1 teacher.
I expect the teachers to teach and do their job if they are at work regardless of the amount of snow or sunshine.
You can expect that but it doesn't mean it's what is happening. Sorry but it's the truth.
She's right. It's not. It's totally unreasonable to expect normal instruction to continue when only a fraction of the class is present and we have students split from other classes because their teachers are absent. I made plans yesterday afternoon to show Oceans and do some art activities if school was open today.
Maybe not your normal, planned lesson plan but I don't think it's unreasonable to have some type of constructive learning during the school day.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
I'm a parent of 2 school-aged kids. I'm not inconvenienced by snow days. It's winter. It's winter, it happens. I'm inconvenienced by work 
If the LIRR is running, it looks like I won't be stuck in the city and I have someone to watch the kids, I go in. DH is home with them today so here I am at work (slacking off  ).
Last week the LIRR suspended my line so I stayed home. I did that knowing that I'd need to take a vacation day or personal day. My company gave a snow day for those that couldn't make it in due to snow. It was completely unexpected. I have a certain amount of vacation time, which I save to use during the winter, for days when my kids are sick, for field trips, for days I need off.
If it's too dangerous to drive, they need to call a snow day. Period. I don't want anyone to have to drive in dangerous conditions. Granted some jobs - emergency personnel - need to be at their jobs. What they don't need are additional cars on the road because school is open during treacherous condition. When Bloomberg says it's because "parents need to go to work", I think he's speaking from a business owner's perspective. I can't imagine that's the "real" reason for the decision.
My children are my responsibility - from their care to their education. Teachers aren't daycare. For a snow day, I go sleighriding.
I am inconvenienced by 2 hour delays though.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
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ETA: funny thing is that many parents are starting to resent the idea that their NYC teachers are able to live so far outside of the city. there is talk of making NYC teachers live within the five boroughs like they did with other NYC jobs.
I totally and completely agree with this. I've lived in NYC all my life, and I know the chanting has begun.
wow - can't even imagine how many people this would put out of work, myself and the majority of my colleagues included. many including myself started out living in the city and have moved to the island. is there a reason other than for bad weather? cuz i don't see the point of this.
I think its the basic premise that when our system is functioning and fine, those in outlying areas who have trouble coming in effect our kids.
not necessarily soley b/c of snow, but lets face it, there aren't many other issues that impact travel as much as snow.
I grew up in NYC. I went to NYC public schools. I can count how many teachers I had that didn't live in Brookyn, let alone outside of the city. my fourth grade teacher lived in Hoboken, which to me may as well have been Mars
the few times that we did get big snow and major call outs, we did combine classes or have big assemblies. we did not do our lessons (and I don't necessarily expect that. you don't want half you student body behind) but we did do learning games, readings and things. even if it wasn't the lesson plan, we didn't gaze off into space and drool the day away.
as a mom to a potential NYC public school student...the idea of call outs every time an outlying area has a problem does bother me. b/c MY boss does not close. and my husband job never closes either.
I love teachers. I think they deserve the pay the get. I think they can be such a HUGE influence on my child. I pray that he has the same experience (wonderful) with his teachers that I did with mine.
I have family and friends that are NYC teachers (and that live in the boroughs) and I do understand the hardships. but this war has just got to stop.
NYC does not close. ever. if you chose to work there, you have to understand what that means and deal with it. just like I do with my job.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
Wow... such a heated debate. I do have to say that as a teacher, we get a lot of $hit put on our plates day in and day out. We don't get paid overtime when we have tons of planning/grading to do on weekends and nights. We don't get bonuses. We don't even get simple thank yous most of the time. I'm on my feet from 7:45 to 3:00 with NO downtime. No checking email, browsing the internet, reading the paper... No downtime. My breaks are filled with making photocopies, planning with colleagues, putting up a bulletin board, etc.... I rarely sit for 10 min to eat lunch. So, when the opportunity for a snow day comes around, it's the equivalent of a little bonus given in time, not $$ and I'm glad to have it. The same goes for the endless holidays and vacations we have... we deserve it because of all the extra time we put into our jobs that we can't get overtime for. It's just a perk for the hard work we do from Sept. to June.
With that being said, if DS's daycare is closed and my school is open, I use a sick day and stay home. No big deal and my colleagues that did go in will have to deal if there's doubling up. I did it for years before having kids and paid my dues. Now it's someone else's turn. My son takes priority, not my job.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
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Wow... such a heated debate. I do have to say that as a teacher, we get a lot of $hit put on our plates day in and day out. We don't get paid overtime when we have tons of planning/grading to do on weekends and nights. We don't get bonuses. We don't even get simple thank yous most of the time. I'm on my feet from 7:45 to 3:00 with NO downtime. No checking email, browsing the internet, reading the paper... No downtime. My breaks are filled with making photocopies, planning with colleagues, putting up a bulletin board, etc.... I rarely sit for 10 min to eat lunch. So, when the opportunity for a snow day comes around, it's the equivalent of a little bonus given in time, not $$ and I'm glad to have it. The same goes for the endless holidays and vacations we have... we deserve it because of all the extra time we put into our jobs that we can't get overtime for. It's just a perk for the hard work we do from Sept. to June.
With that being said, if DS's daycare is closed and my school is open, I use a sick day and stay home. No big deal and my colleagues that did go in will have to deal if there's doubling up. I did it for years before having kids and paid my dues. Now it's someone else's turn. My son takes priority, not my job.
What I read is ENTITLEMENT, not about your son's daycare being closed and safety which only comes in the last sentence of your long response on you working so much, being underpaid, etc...
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
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Wow... such a heated debate. I do have to say that as a teacher, we get a lot of $hit put on our plates day in and day out. We don't get paid overtime when we have tons of planning/grading to do on weekends and nights. We don't get bonuses. We don't even get simple thank yous most of the time. I'm on my feet from 7:45 to 3:00 with NO downtime. No checking email, browsing the internet, reading the paper... No downtime. My breaks are filled with making photocopies, planning with colleagues, putting up a bulletin board, etc.... I rarely sit for 10 min to eat lunch. So, when the opportunity for a snow day comes around, it's the equivalent of a little bonus given in time, not $$ and I'm glad to have it. The same goes for the endless holidays and vacations we have... we deserve it because of all the extra time we put into our jobs that we can't get overtime for. It's just a perk for the hard work we do from Sept. to June.
With that being said, if DS's daycare is closed and my school is open, I use a sick day and stay home. No big deal and my colleagues that did go in will have to deal if there's doubling up. I did it for years before having kids and paid my dues. Now it's someone else's turn. My son takes priority, not my job.
What I read is ENTITLEMENT, not about your son's daycare being closed and safety which only comes in the last sentence of your long response on you working so much, being underpaid, etc...
Absolutely it's entitlement! I am not going to deny it either. As I said, I don't get paid for all the extra hours I put in. I'm at work an hour early and stay at least an hour late EVERYDAY! So, if a snow day comes around, I look at it as a gift! Hate my views if you want, but this is how I feel. I work hard and feel that I deserve to not have to dig out and drive in. JMHO!
ETA: Of course my son's safety comes first - I think that's a given. Daycare is open today and he's home with me b/c I didn't think it was safe to drive and drop him off.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
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Wow... such a heated debate. I do have to say that as a teacher, we get a lot of $hit put on our plates day in and day out. We don't get paid overtime when we have tons of planning/grading to do on weekends and nights. We don't get bonuses. We don't even get simple thank yous most of the time. I'm on my feet from 7:45 to 3:00 with NO downtime. No checking email, browsing the internet, reading the paper... No downtime. My breaks are filled with making photocopies, planning with colleagues, putting up a bulletin board, etc.... I rarely sit for 10 min to eat lunch. So, when the opportunity for a snow day comes around, it's the equivalent of a little bonus given in time, not $$ and I'm glad to have it. The same goes for the endless holidays and vacations we have... we deserve it because of all the extra time we put into our jobs that we can't get overtime for. It's just a perk for the hard work we do from Sept. to June.
With that being said, if DS's daycare is closed and my school is open, I use a sick day and stay home. No big deal and my colleagues that did go in will have to deal if there's doubling up. I did it for years before having kids and paid my dues. Now it's someone else's turn. My son takes priority, not my job.
What I read is ENTITLEMENT, not about your son's daycare being closed and safety which only comes in the last sentence of your long response on you working so much, being underpaid, etc...
Oh please!  Get off your high horse, EVERYONE feels entitlement in their job. Who are you kidding here? When you do a job well done you feel ENTITLED to a good salary or perhaps a promotion or raise. So what if as a teacher you feel that on the 2-3 days a year where the weather is awful you feel entitled to a day off so you don't have to kill yourself on the road or deal with the headache of 40 kids stuffed in your closet sized classroom?
Consider a snow day payment for the endless hours of lesson planning, report cards, parent conferences, meetings, bulletin boards, and money out of my pocket for supplies that we never get a bonus for, a salary increase for, or even so much as a thanks. The rest of the working world doesn't think twice about their ENTITLEMENT to vacation days, raises, bonuses, and promotions so you know what, if a teacher feels entitled to a snow day once or twice a year then good!!!...........what's the big deal??? 
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
As for the inconvenience, it comes as part of the package with having kids. Find a friend, a sitter, a relative, etc. Usually you know the night before if there will be an issue.
It is absolutely not fair to expect anyone to come in conditions where they feel unsafe. I work in a hospital, so I can understand why they tell us we HAVE to come in. But, really, it comes down to your particular job. Obviously, if you are an ER doc, try to get in. But, if you are a non-medically necessary position, take the day off! It is about health and safety - not just $$, KWIM?
As for the teachers, in days like today, they are most certainly just babysitters. We all know it, and the kids don't benefit (at least academically) from going to school.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
Apologies for the highjack but...
I think of summers, school vacations, snow days as comp time for any extra overtime teachers put in during the school year. Any time they don't get a snow day, if they don't want to go in, they have to use their personal time just like the rest of us. I don't get overtime nor do I get weeks off during the year. If I opted for a different job, I'd be entitled to get the perks that go along with it.
I don't see why this is a debate. No one expects that teachers go out in dangerous conditions. It's a choice - use your personal time off or not. Does it suck to have to use it, yes - but you need to do what you feel is best for your safety.
Honestly, I think the whole "risking life & limb" to go to work is overblown & we need to reevaluate "dangerous conditions". I was up shoveling at 5am & sitting at a train station by 7am waiting for a train. It snowed. It was icy. You drive carefully & hope others do the same.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
To me, safety is #1. I don't mind taking off and spending time with my little one.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
I think the biggest thing not being addressed is that most NYC students WALK to school or take mass transit.
and as long as it's ok to do those things, the kids can get to school with minimal risk to life and limb.
and I am also kissing nrthshrgrl right now.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
My kids are still in daycare, but I worry about the day when they are both in school and we get hit with a bad winter. I don't see teachers or schools as 'babysitters, but I also don't think schools should close for 5 inches of snow.
Last night's storm was bad...so I get why schools close. But guess what...companies don't close. At least mine doesn't....EVER. I have to take sick time or vacation time. So imagine when my kids are in school and on top of all the time schools are already closed (holidays, random 1/2 days, winter recess, spring recess, summer!)....how are working parents supposed to keep up?
I get ill just thinking about it. I know I'll get by, like I always do...but it's hard.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
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I highly doubt that the city schools are kept open so that parents can go to work.
I feel inconvenienced by the snow itself...not school (or daycare in my case) being closed. There are times when daycare is open but I chose to keep my kids home and take the day off because it's just not safe out on the roads.
I don't expect teachers to babysit my children...I expect them to educated them while they are together. I know it's hard getting to work in this weather but everytime you are dealing with this so am I.
ITA - Today was a PITA for me bc my DH is away and shoveling with 2 small kids at home took 3x the amount of time it would have taken DH. But by 10am the roads were fine. Daycare was open, but I kept the kids home anyway.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
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Wow... such a heated debate. I do have to say that as a teacher, we get a lot of $hit put on our plates day in and day out. We don't get paid overtime when we have tons of planning/grading to do on weekends and nights. We don't get bonuses. We don't even get simple thank yous most of the time. I'm on my feet from 7:45 to 3:00 with NO downtime. No checking email, browsing the internet, reading the paper... No downtime. My breaks are filled with making photocopies, planning with colleagues, putting up a bulletin board, etc.... I rarely sit for 10 min to eat lunch. So, when the opportunity for a snow day comes around, it's the equivalent of a little bonus given in time, not $$ and I'm glad to have it. The same goes for the endless holidays and vacations we have... we deserve it because of all the extra time we put into our jobs that we can't get overtime for. It's just a perk for the hard work we do from Sept. to June.
With that being said, if DS's daycare is closed and my school is open, I use a sick day and stay home. No big deal and my colleagues that did go in will have to deal if there's doubling up. I did it for years before having kids and paid my dues. Now it's someone else's turn. My son takes priority, not my job.
What I read is ENTITLEMENT, not about your son's daycare being closed and safety which only comes in the last sentence of your long response on you working so much, being underpaid, etc...
Oh please! Get off your high horse, EVERYONE feels entitlement in their job. Who are you kidding here? When you do a job well done you feel ENTITLED to a good salary or perhaps a promotion or raise. So what if as a teacher you feel that on the 2-3 days a year where the weather is awful you feel entitled to a day off so you don't have to kill yourself on the road or deal with the headache of 40 kids stuffed in your closet sized classroom?
Consider a snow day payment for the endless hours of lesson planning, report cards, parent conferences, meetings, bulletin boards, and money out of my pocket for supplies that we never get a bonus for, a salary increase for, or even so much as a thanks. The rest of the working world doesn't think twice about their ENTITLEMENT to vacation days, raises, bonuses, and promotions so you know what, if a teacher feels entitled to a snow day once or twice a year then good!!!...........what's the big deal???
As teachers, you choose that profession. No one forced to be a teacher. It's very obvious to me that the job market for teachers on Long Island is terrible. I can tell you that anyone graduating right now with a education degree has a pretty good chance of needing to work in NYC because of the job market. You knew that you weren't going to be paid for lesson planning and that you would be on your feet all day. If you don't like that, don't choose the profession. I love education, but I would never become a teacher because I don't like the quality of life in that job. So I work in for-profit education. You choose your own path.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
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Posted by KennysMommy
Wow... such a heated debate. I do have to say that as a teacher, we get a lot of $hit put on our plates day in and day out. We don't get paid overtime when we have tons of planning/grading to do on weekends and nights. We don't get bonuses. We don't even get simple thank yous most of the time. I'm on my feet from 7:45 to 3:00 with NO downtime. No checking email, browsing the internet, reading the paper... No downtime. My breaks are filled with making photocopies, planning with colleagues, putting up a bulletin board, etc.... I rarely sit for 10 min to eat lunch. So, when the opportunity for a snow day comes around, it's the equivalent of a little bonus given in time, not $$ and I'm glad to have it. The same goes for the endless holidays and vacations we have... we deserve it because of all the extra time we put into our jobs that we can't get overtime for. It's just a perk for the hard work we do from Sept. to June.
With that being said, if DS's daycare is closed and my school is open, I use a sick day and stay home. No big deal and my colleagues that did go in will have to deal if there's doubling up. I did it for years before having kids and paid my dues. Now it's someone else's turn. My son takes priority, not my job.
What I read is ENTITLEMENT, not about your son's daycare being closed and safety which only comes in the last sentence of your long response on you working so much, being underpaid, etc...
Oh please! Get off your high horse, EVERYONE feels entitlement in their job. Who are you kidding here? When you do a job well done you feel ENTITLED to a good salary or perhaps a promotion or raise. So what if as a teacher you feel that on the 2-3 days a year where the weather is awful you feel entitled to a day off so you don't have to kill yourself on the road or deal with the headache of 40 kids stuffed in your closet sized classroom?
Consider a snow day payment for the endless hours of lesson planning, report cards, parent conferences, meetings, bulletin boards, and money out of my pocket for supplies that we never get a bonus for, a salary increase for, or even so much as a thanks. The rest of the working world doesn't think twice about their ENTITLEMENT to vacation days, raises, bonuses, and promotions so you know what, if a teacher feels entitled to a snow day once or twice a year then good!!!...........what's the big deal???
As teachers, you choose that profession. No one forced to be a teacher. It's very obvious to me that the job market for teachers on Long Island is terrible. I can tell you that anyone graduating right now with a education degree has a pretty good chance of needing to work in NYC because of the job market. You knew that you weren't going to be paid for lesson planning and that you would be on your feet all day. If you don't like that, don't choose the profession. I love education, but I would never become a teacher because I don't like the quality of life in that job. So I work in for-profit education. You choose your own path.
The teaching market been terrible for years. I graduated with my Masters in 2003 and it's virtually impossible to get a LI teaching job. I worked in the city out of necessity for sure. As for the profession, I pointed out what teachers do NOT because I was complaining because of course I knew all of that was part of the profession but I get sick and tired of hearing how teachers do nothing, it's the easiest job, all we do is have vacation, yada yada yada. It's a hard job, any teacher can tell you that. And my answer is everyone who complains about teachers time off whether is be a snow day or the summer is............you could've been a teacher too, you're not, so get over it.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
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Posted by KennysMommy
Wow... such a heated debate. I do have to say that as a teacher, we get a lot of $hit put on our plates day in and day out. We don't get paid overtime when we have tons of planning/grading to do on weekends and nights. We don't get bonuses. We don't even get simple thank yous most of the time. I'm on my feet from 7:45 to 3:00 with NO downtime. No checking email, browsing the internet, reading the paper... No downtime. My breaks are filled with making photocopies, planning with colleagues, putting up a bulletin board, etc.... I rarely sit for 10 min to eat lunch. So, when the opportunity for a snow day comes around, it's the equivalent of a little bonus given in time, not $$ and I'm glad to have it. The same goes for the endless holidays and vacations we have... we deserve it because of all the extra time we put into our jobs that we can't get overtime for. It's just a perk for the hard work we do from Sept. to June.
With that being said, if DS's daycare is closed and my school is open, I use a sick day and stay home. No big deal and my colleagues that did go in will have to deal if there's doubling up. I did it for years before having kids and paid my dues. Now it's someone else's turn. My son takes priority, not my job.
What I read is ENTITLEMENT, not about your son's daycare being closed and safety which only comes in the last sentence of your long response on you working so much, being underpaid, etc...
Oh please! Get off your high horse, EVERYONE feels entitlement in their job. Who are you kidding here? When you do a job well done you feel ENTITLED to a good salary or perhaps a promotion or raise. So what if as a teacher you feel that on the 2-3 days a year where the weather is awful you feel entitled to a day off so you don't have to kill yourself on the road or deal with the headache of 40 kids stuffed in your closet sized classroom?
Consider a snow day payment for the endless hours of lesson planning, report cards, parent conferences, meetings, bulletin boards, and money out of my pocket for supplies that we never get a bonus for, a salary increase for, or even so much as a thanks. The rest of the working world doesn't think twice about their ENTITLEMENT to vacation days, raises, bonuses, and promotions so you know what, if a teacher feels entitled to a snow day once or twice a year then good!!!...........what's the big deal???
Yes, I feel I deserve what I make.
But I don't come on here and beotch about my job and poor me, blah blah blah. Don't keep justifying OVER AND OVER of why you should get the day off.
I could understand the "safety" argument but telling us that they have meetings, and the grades, etc... What the heck does it have to do with the freaking snow?
I don't even know the point of this whole thread.
Plenty of people made it to work today. Some did not. Some will have to cover for their co-workers who did not make it in.
That's life! Stop being a cry baby about it. Poor me Poor me I work so hard all year long.
Yes, teachers work a lot. No doubt. I have teacher friends. I know what they do. But honestly I am really tired of this constant insinuation on the boards that they work SOOO much harder than other people. This is so condescending to other people who work.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
Posted by Hofstra26
but I get sick and tired of hearing how teachers do nothing, it's the easiest job, all we do is have vacation, yada yada yada. It's a hard job, any teacher can tell you that. . And my answer is everyone who complains about teachers time off whether is be a snow day or the summer is............you could've been a teacher too, you're not, so get over it.
no one. said that. on this thread. at all.
no one is complaining that you got a snow day. everyone is sucking it up. the question was asked whether it's inconvenient and we answered why. of course it is. but we understand why and we suck it up. call in to work. beg granny to come over. or leave the kids alone and pray.
but the idea that every time in is FUBAR in LI that NYC should close the schools is absolutely outrageous, and the biggest reason that NYC parents are getting ****** off and are pressing for some sort of legislation. and if that ball starts rolling, teachers are going to have a lot more issues than a few inches of snow.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
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Posted by mommybear
Posted by KennysMommy
Wow... such a heated debate. I do have to say that as a teacher, we get a lot of $hit put on our plates day in and day out. We don't get paid overtime when we have tons of planning/grading to do on weekends and nights. We don't get bonuses. We don't even get simple thank yous most of the time. I'm on my feet from 7:45 to 3:00 with NO downtime. No checking email, browsing the internet, reading the paper... No downtime. My breaks are filled with making photocopies, planning with colleagues, putting up a bulletin board, etc.... I rarely sit for 10 min to eat lunch. So, when the opportunity for a snow day comes around, it's the equivalent of a little bonus given in time, not $$ and I'm glad to have it. The same goes for the endless holidays and vacations we have... we deserve it because of all the extra time we put into our jobs that we can't get overtime for. It's just a perk for the hard work we do from Sept. to June.
With that being said, if DS's daycare is closed and my school is open, I use a sick day and stay home. No big deal and my colleagues that did go in will have to deal if there's doubling up. I did it for years before having kids and paid my dues. Now it's someone else's turn. My son takes priority, not my job.
What I read is ENTITLEMENT, not about your son's daycare being closed and safety which only comes in the last sentence of your long response on you working so much, being underpaid, etc...
Oh please! Get off your high horse, EVERYONE feels entitlement in their job. Who are you kidding here? When you do a job well done you feel ENTITLED to a good salary or perhaps a promotion or raise. So what if as a teacher you feel that on the 2-3 days a year where the weather is awful you feel entitled to a day off so you don't have to kill yourself on the road or deal with the headache of 40 kids stuffed in your closet sized classroom?
Consider a snow day payment for the endless hours of lesson planning, report cards, parent conferences, meetings, bulletin boards, and money out of my pocket for supplies that we never get a bonus for, a salary increase for, or even so much as a thanks. The rest of the working world doesn't think twice about their ENTITLEMENT to vacation days, raises, bonuses, and promotions so you know what, if a teacher feels entitled to a snow day once or twice a year then good!!!...........what's the big deal???
As teachers, you choose that profession. No one forced to be a teacher. It's very obvious to me that the job market for teachers on Long Island is terrible. I can tell you that anyone graduating right now with a education degree has a pretty good chance of needing to work in NYC because of the job market. You knew that you weren't going to be paid for lesson planning and that you would be on your feet all day. If you don't like that, don't choose the profession. I love education, but I would never become a teacher because I don't like the quality of life in that job. So I work in for-profit education. You choose your own path.
The teaching market been terrible for years. I graduated with my Masters in 2003 and it's virtually impossible to get a LI teaching job. I worked in the city out of necessity for sure. As for the profession, I pointed out what teachers do NOT because I was complaining because of course I knew all of that was part of the profession but I get sick and tired of hearing how teachers do nothing, it's the easiest job, all we do is have vacation, yada yada yada. It's a hard job, any teacher can tell you that. And my answer is everyone who complains about teachers time off whether is be a snow day or the summer is............you could've been a teacher too, you're not, so get over it.
I just think people are jealous of teachers. We get decent pay, time off for vacation and summers, and snow days... I chose my profession because I love kids and I love teaching. I don't mind the long hours on my feet and the unpaid planning time. I do mind people b!tching about us getting a day off because their company doesn't give them time off. It's not my fault I have such a wonderful job that takes safe travel into account!
Oh how I'm enjoying this snow day with a little boy who's sleeping for 3+hrs on top of that! Life is good today!!! I think I'll go take a nap now myself!
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charon54
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
Posted by KennysMommy
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by charon54
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by mommybear
Posted by KennysMommy
Wow... such a heated debate. I do have to say that as a teacher, we get a lot of $hit put on our plates day in and day out. We don't get paid overtime when we have tons of planning/grading to do on weekends and nights. We don't get bonuses. We don't even get simple thank yous most of the time. I'm on my feet from 7:45 to 3:00 with NO downtime. No checking email, browsing the internet, reading the paper... No downtime. My breaks are filled with making photocopies, planning with colleagues, putting up a bulletin board, etc.... I rarely sit for 10 min to eat lunch. So, when the opportunity for a snow day comes around, it's the equivalent of a little bonus given in time, not $$ and I'm glad to have it. The same goes for the endless holidays and vacations we have... we deserve it because of all the extra time we put into our jobs that we can't get overtime for. It's just a perk for the hard work we do from Sept. to June.
With that being said, if DS's daycare is closed and my school is open, I use a sick day and stay home. No big deal and my colleagues that did go in will have to deal if there's doubling up. I did it for years before having kids and paid my dues. Now it's someone else's turn. My son takes priority, not my job.
What I read is ENTITLEMENT, not about your son's daycare being closed and safety which only comes in the last sentence of your long response on you working so much, being underpaid, etc...
Oh please! Get off your high horse, EVERYONE feels entitlement in their job. Who are you kidding here? When you do a job well done you feel ENTITLED to a good salary or perhaps a promotion or raise. So what if as a teacher you feel that on the 2-3 days a year where the weather is awful you feel entitled to a day off so you don't have to kill yourself on the road or deal with the headache of 40 kids stuffed in your closet sized classroom?
Consider a snow day payment for the endless hours of lesson planning, report cards, parent conferences, meetings, bulletin boards, and money out of my pocket for supplies that we never get a bonus for, a salary increase for, or even so much as a thanks. The rest of the working world doesn't think twice about their ENTITLEMENT to vacation days, raises, bonuses, and promotions so you know what, if a teacher feels entitled to a snow day once or twice a year then good!!!...........what's the big deal???
As teachers, you choose that profession. No one forced to be a teacher. It's very obvious to me that the job market for teachers on Long Island is terrible. I can tell you that anyone graduating right now with a education degree has a pretty good chance of needing to work in NYC because of the job market. You knew that you weren't going to be paid for lesson planning and that you would be on your feet all day. If you don't like that, don't choose the profession. I love education, but I would never become a teacher because I don't like the quality of life in that job. So I work in for-profit education. You choose your own path.
The teaching market been terrible for years. I graduated with my Masters in 2003 and it's virtually impossible to get a LI teaching job. I worked in the city out of necessity for sure. As for the profession, I pointed out what teachers do NOT because I was complaining because of course I knew all of that was part of the profession but I get sick and tired of hearing how teachers do nothing, it's the easiest job, all we do is have vacation, yada yada yada. It's a hard job, any teacher can tell you that. And my answer is everyone who complains about teachers time off whether is be a snow day or the summer is............you could've been a teacher too, you're not, so get over it.
I just think people are jealous of teachers. We get decent pay, time off for vacation and summers, and snow days... I chose my profession because I love kids and I love teaching. I don't mind the long hours on my feet and the unpaid planning time. I do mind people b!tching about us getting a day off because their company doesn't give them time off. It's not my fault I have such a wonderful job that takes safe travel into account!
Oh how I'm enjoying this snow day with a little boy who's sleeping for 3+hrs on top of that! Life is good today!!! I think I'll go take a nap now myself!
Well, I'll throw out there, that I am certainly not jealous of teachers. I would never want to be teacher, I didn't choose to be a teacher. Again, I am passionate about education. I have worked in for-profit education for 10 years. DH is a corporate trainer. We love teaching, just not as a public school teacher.
What angers me is that teachers seem to feel like their jobs are so much harder than anyone else. And they're not! My job is hard. Most of ours are.
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Hofstra26
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Hofstra26
but I get sick and tired of hearing how teachers do nothing, it's the easiest job, all we do is have vacation, yada yada yada. It's a hard job, any teacher can tell you that. . And my answer is everyone who complains about teachers time off whether is be a snow day or the summer is............you could've been a teacher too, you're not, so get over it.
no one. said that. on this thread. at all.
no one is complaining that you got a snow day. everyone is sucking it up. the question was asked whether it's inconvenient and we answered why. of course it is. but we understand why and we suck it up. call in to work. beg granny to come over. or leave the kids alone and pray.
but the idea that every time in is FUBAR in LI that NYC should close the schools is absolutely outrageous, and the biggest reason that NYC parents are getting ****** off and are pressing for some sort of legislation. and if that ball starts rolling, teachers are going to have a lot more issues than a few inches of snow.
Teachers already have plenty of issues working in the $hithole that is the NYC Public School System. Sorry, but it's a MESS. The entire school system is a mess. A snow day is the LEAST of their problems.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Hofstra26
but I get sick and tired of hearing how teachers do nothing, it's the easiest job, all we do is have vacation, yada yada yada. It's a hard job, any teacher can tell you that. . And my answer is everyone who complains about teachers time off whether is be a snow day or the summer is............you could've been a teacher too, you're not, so get over it.
no one. said that. on this thread. at all.
no one is complaining that you got a snow day. everyone is sucking it up. the question was asked whether it's inconvenient and we answered why. of course it is. but we understand why and we suck it up. call in to work. beg granny to come over. or leave the kids alone and pray.
but the idea that every time in is FUBAR in LI that NYC should close the schools is absolutely outrageous, and the biggest reason that NYC parents are getting ****** off and are pressing for some sort of legislation. and if that ball starts rolling, teachers are going to have a lot more issues than a few inches of snow.
ITA.
Does anyone else equate the "who works harder" bs with "I walked to school. Up Hill. Both Ways."?
Posted by KennysMommy
I do have to say that as a teacher, we get a lot of $hit put on our plates day in and day out. We don't get paid overtime when we have tons of planning/grading to do on weekends and nights. We don't get bonuses. We don't even get simple thank yous most of the time. I'm on my feet from 7:45 to 3:00 with NO downtime. No checking email, browsing the internet, reading the paper... No downtime. My breaks are filled with making photocopies, planning with colleagues, putting up a bulletin board, etc.... I rarely sit for 10 min to eat lunch.
Posted by KennysMommy
I just think people are jealous of teachers. We get decent pay, time off for vacation and summers, and snow days... I chose my profession because I love kids and I love teaching. I don't mind the long hours on my feet and the unpaid planning time. I do mind people b!tching about us getting a day off because their company doesn't give them time off. It's not my fault I have such a wonderful job that takes safe travel into account! !
Could you clarify if you are on the "I work my arse off. I'm underappreciated" side or the "I am fortunate to have this job" side?
TBH, I'm not jealous of teachers. There is good & bad to every job...but I'm hard pressed to find the bad with jobs in the Caribbean right now.
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
Posted by mommybear
Yes, I feel I deserve what I make.
But I don't come on here and beotch about my job and poor me, blah blah blah. Don't keep justifying OVER AND OVER of why you should get the day off.
I could understand the "safety" argument but telling us that they have meetings, and the grades, etc... What the heck does it have to do with the freaking snow?
I don't even know the point of this whole thread.
Plenty of people made it to work today. Some did not. Some will have to cover for their co-workers who did not make it in.
That's life! Stop being a cry baby about it. Poor me Poor me I work so hard all year long.
Yes, teachers work a lot. No doubt. I have teacher friends. I know what they do. But honestly I am really tired of this constant insinuation on the boards that they work SOOO much harder than other people. This is so condescending to other people who work.
Where's that "like" button when you need it?
And at the end of the day, Bloomberg DID close schools today (and justifiably so)! In the last storm (during which I thought we beat the topic to death), he did not because it just wasnt bad enough in the CITY. If you choose to live far from your job and commute, that is your problem, just like it's mine in the private sector.
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Hofstra26
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
Posted by Salason
Posted by mommybear
Yes, I feel I deserve what I make.
But I don't come on here and beotch about my job and poor me, blah blah blah. Don't keep justifying OVER AND OVER of why you should get the day off.
I could understand the "safety" argument but telling us that they have meetings, and the grades, etc... What the heck does it have to do with the freaking snow?
I don't even know the point of this whole thread.
Plenty of people made it to work today. Some did not. Some will have to cover for their co-workers who did not make it in.
That's life! Stop being a cry baby about it. Poor me Poor me I work so hard all year long.
Yes, teachers work a lot. No doubt. I have teacher friends. I know what they do. But honestly I am really tired of this constant insinuation on the boards that they work SOOO much harder than other people. This is so condescending to other people who work.
Where's that "like" button when you need it?
And at the end of the day, Bloomberg DID close schools today (and justifiably so)! In the last storm (during which I thought we beat the topic to death), he did not because it just wasnt bad enough in the CITY. If you choose to live far from your job and commute, that is your problem, just like it's mine in the private sector.
And at the end of the day it's why they invented sick days for which I used many calling in on snowy days when out here in Stony Brook we had over a foot of snow and the city had only a few inches.
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sarahbelle
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Re: A question for the parents about snow days.....
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Hofstra26
but I get sick and tired of hearing how teachers do nothing, it's the easiest job, all we do is have vacation, yada yada yada. It's a hard job, any teacher can tell you that. . And my answer is everyone who complains about teachers time off whether is be a snow day or the summer is............you could've been a teacher too, you're not, so get over it.
no one. said that. on this thread. at all.
no one is complaining that you got a snow day. everyone is sucking it up. the question was asked whether it's inconvenient and we answered why. of course it is. but we understand why and we suck it up. call in to work. beg granny to come over. or leave the kids alone and pray.
but the idea that every time in is FUBAR in LI that NYC should close the schools is absolutely outrageous, and the biggest reason that NYC parents are getting ****** off and are pressing for some sort of legislation. and if that ball starts rolling, teachers are going to have a lot more issues than a few inches of snow.
Which group is this? I follow the NYC Public School Parents blog and I've never read any mention of parents pressing for legislation regarding a residency requirement for teachers.
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