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A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Some centers or home care places have more of this than others. Someone pointed out, and I agree, that many of us would be surprised to know how many centers accept DSS. Do you care? What if you like a center that relies on DSS for a good amount of its enrollment? Anyone have experience with this? Let's say that place checks out fine and you believe that the services would be good.
I am asking this with the assumption that most of our parents here are not DSS eligible and would be paying privately for the center, but correct me if I am wrong.
If you want to FM me privately to give an opinion, I will keep the FM to myself but if you prefer, I will put up a post saying that someone privately said XYZ and prefers not to be named.
If the thread gets heated, I will request it pulled.
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
I do not see why it would matter. As long as I like the center and the services they provide, I would not even consider how the other Children's parents pay for the service
Not sure why anyone would care
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| Posted 1/31/08 10:46 AM |
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Ang-Rich
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
I am not sure of what the percentage is at the daycare we use but I know they do have it. I pay the full tuition on my own. With that said...so long as the care provided and facility meet or exceed my expectations I have no care or concern for this situation.
So I would and do send my child.
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| Posted 1/31/08 10:47 AM |
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yankinmanc
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
It wouldn't make any difference to me how the other parents paid for their daycare...none of my business. As long as I had a good relationship with the carer and my child enjoyed it and was being taken care of well. I don't care.
I myself get help from the government to pay for my daycare through a childcare voucher scheme. Everyone is eligible for it.
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| Posted 1/31/08 10:56 AM |
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Do you think that a center that has a high percentage of DDS kids has more turnover of kids? I have worked a little bit with people on PA and they are constantly losing their eligibility for various programs, then might get it back months later, etc. Does that happen at day care? I know that turnover can be high anyway but my sister's kids were in day care with a lot of the same kids for several years.
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Just because the parents are supported by DSS, should not judge the character of their kids...
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| Posted 1/31/08 10:58 AM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Posted by BabyCote2006
Just because the parents are supported by DSS, should not judge the character of their kids...
or the character of the parents for that matter
honestly, I am not sure of why this is even being discussed
WHO CARES what funding someone may or may not get
how does that affect your life in any way, am I missing something?
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| Posted 1/31/08 11:00 AM |
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
I did consider it and I agree that a lot of center's take vouchers and are reluctant to talk about it (at least that was my experience). It was something I considered, because I always wondered whether the voucher rate was the same as the private pay rate and whether I would be "subsidizing" the other children's daycare??
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| Posted 1/31/08 11:01 AM |
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
wouldn't matter to me at all.
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Posted by BabyCote2006
Just because the parents are supported by DSS, should not judge the character of their kids...
ITA!
Well Said! 
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| Posted 1/31/08 11:02 AM |
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
I don't know if any of the children in my son's group receive the assistance...nor do I want to know...but I will say that it has been the same group of kids the entire time. The only changes occur when either the mom decided to stay home and the child finishes out the month or if they move up to the next room.
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Posted by stephanief
Posted by BabyCote2006
Just because the parents are supported by DSS, should not judge the character of their kids...
or the character of the parents for that matter
honestly, I am not sure of why this is even being discussed
WHO CARES what funding someone may or may not get
how does that affect your life in any way, am I missing something?
The topic came up a a few days ago and I wanted opinions. I learned something positive about LIFers views today and what can be wrong with that? As I said, I have worked within the system. People have to fight to keep what benefits they have. I was wondering if this then leads to a different set of kids being pushed through the center every week, a lot of frustration among teachers, and parents who are constantly upset. That would concern me. I'm not looking to get a chip on my shoulder about how I pay vs. how someone else pays. That is not what this is about. Why are people being made to feel that they have to defend what they ask around here? I wanted a discussion and asked that it not get ugly.
Message edited 1/31/2008 11:07:29 AM.
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2girlsforme
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
Posted by stephanief
Posted by BabyCote2006
Just because the parents are supported by DSS, should not judge the character of their kids...
or the character of the parents for that matter
honestly, I am not sure of why this is even being discussed
WHO CARES what funding someone may or may not get
how does that affect your life in any way, am I missing something?
The topic came up a a few days ago and I wanted opinions. I learned something positive about LIFers views today and what can be wrong with that? As I said, I have worked within the system. People have to fight to keep what benefits they have. I was wondering if this then leads to a different set of kids being pushed through the center every week, a lot of frustration among teachers, and parents who are constantly upset. That would concern me. I'm not looking to get a chip on my shoulder about how I pay vs. how someone else pays. That is not what this is about. Why are people being made to feel that they have to defend what they ask around here? I wanted a discussion and asked that it not get ugly.
I think its a perfectly legitimate question that you ask. I want to know as much about the daycare/schools my kids go to as I possibly can. The reason I too investiagted the voucher issue was for many of the same reasons you stated. I in no way care about anyone else's financial situation but, want any information that's available, as it may effect my child's experience. l
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
This topic honeslty never even occured to me when evaluating a daycare to send my DD too. I see your point about a higher turnover being possible, but from the other side my cousin used to run an inhouse daycare and was happy to accept goverment assistance kids becuase it was guarenteed money unlike many parents who had issues with paying late, being short ect....
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Posted by 2girlsforme
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
Posted by stephanief
Posted by BabyCote2006
Just because the parents are supported by DSS, should not judge the character of their kids...
or the character of the parents for that matter
honestly, I am not sure of why this is even being discussed
WHO CARES what funding someone may or may not get
how does that affect your life in any way, am I missing something?
The topic came up a a few days ago and I wanted opinions. I learned something positive about LIFers views today and what can be wrong with that? As I said, I have worked within the system. People have to fight to keep what benefits they have. I was wondering if this then leads to a different set of kids being pushed through the center every week, a lot of frustration among teachers, and parents who are constantly upset. That would concern me. I'm not looking to get a chip on my shoulder about how I pay vs. how someone else pays. That is not what this is about. Why are people being made to feel that they have to defend what they ask around here? I wanted a discussion and asked that it not get ugly.
I think its a perfectly legitimate question that you ask. I want to know as much about the daycare/schools my kids go to as I possibly can. The reason I too investiagted the voucher issue was for many of the same reasons you stated. I in no way care about anyone else's financial situation but, want any information that's available, as it may effect my child's experience. l
Thanks. The school I am looking at is very active with DSS and has a very high percentage of DDS kids. I just want to find out what differences I MIGHT see.
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yankinmanc
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Whats more important, high turnover of staff or high turnover of children attending?
Good debate though!
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| Posted 1/31/08 11:18 AM |
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2girlsforme
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
Posted by 2girlsforme
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
Posted by stephanief
Posted by BabyCote2006
Just because the parents are supported by DSS, should not judge the character of their kids...
or the character of the parents for that matter
honestly, I am not sure of why this is even being discussed
WHO CARES what funding someone may or may not get
how does that affect your life in any way, am I missing something?
The topic came up a a few days ago and I wanted opinions. I learned something positive about LIFers views today and what can be wrong with that? As I said, I have worked within the system. People have to fight to keep what benefits they have. I was wondering if this then leads to a different set of kids being pushed through the center every week, a lot of frustration among teachers, and parents who are constantly upset. That would concern me. I'm not looking to get a chip on my shoulder about how I pay vs. how someone else pays. That is not what this is about. Why are people being made to feel that they have to defend what they ask around here? I wanted a discussion and asked that it not get ugly.
I think its a perfectly legitimate question that you ask. I want to know as much about the daycare/schools my kids go to as I possibly can. The reason I too investiagted the voucher issue was for many of the same reasons you stated. I in no way care about anyone else's financial situation but, want any information that's available, as it may effect my child's experience. l
Thanks. The school I am looking at is very active with DSS and has a very high percentage of DDS kids. I just want to find out what differences I MIGHT see.
Just curious, were they very open about it, or do you know through some other means. I ask, because in my experience, and that of friends, this is something that is usually not discussed.
BTW, I think I'm in the same area as you are, if you want to fm me the name of the place, I can tell you what, if anything, I know.
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| Posted 1/31/08 11:18 AM |
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Ang-Rich
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
The school I am looking at is very active with DSS and has a very high percentage of DDS kids. I just want to find out what differences I MIGHT see.
I commend you for being so aware...I learned about it when the daycare gave me the forms. I  and asked them why they needed all that info - some I was not comfortable providing like income or ssn - and others I didn't know how to answer. They took them back and told me not to worry but I did read them and realized what it was.
No biggie to me because I am very happy with the center. I don't think that it would have changed my decision but it would have prompted me to question more until I fully understood the situation...not that it's a bad one but I would want to know - much like what you are asking.
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dandr10199
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Posted by racheeeee
Whats more important, high turnover of staff or high turnover of children attending?
Good debate though!
I agree w/this. Grace is at a in-home day care, less than 10 kids. All 8 kids besides Grace have been there since infancy, Grace is the youngest. Most go there with there older siblings. I is so nice to see that the 8 & 9 year olds go there for after school (and started there at 3 months old) while their 2 year old sister/brother is there all day.
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Posted by stephanief
I do not see why it would matter. As long as I like the center and the services they provide, I would not even consider how the other Children's parents pay for the service
Not sure why anyone would care
I agree
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Posted by racheeeee
Whats more important, high turnover of staff or high turnover of children attending?
Good debate though!
I never thought of any of this but then again my dd isnt in daycare. But I think my main concern would be the turnover rate of the staff, and why.
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Posted by BabySammie
Posted by racheeeee
Whats more important, high turnover of staff or high turnover of children attending?
Good debate though!
I never thought of any of this but then again my dd isnt in daycare. But I think my main concern would be the turnover rate of the staff, and why.
High turnover of staff is a bigger concern. If there was a high turnover of children, I would want to know why but that might not affect my kid, so not a big deal.
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
For those who asked how I know the percentages----there were meetings at the Suffolk County Legislature in which various providers of services appeared to complain that they were not being paid timely for services that the county provides. This center had kids on DSS and the county was stalling in paying the voucher or tuition or whatever you want to call it. So I am also concerned that I am sending my kids to a center that is feeling a pinch because they are not getting paid on time for services rendered. There was talk of a bill to require the county to pay for the service within 30 days (of what, I do not recall). I do not know what happened with that. Anyway, there were some day care directors who spoke at that meeting. One of them was from a center I am now considering. She also gave the legislature an overview of the center and their services. She gave the percentages.
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
I wouldn't be concerned about it. My daycare accepts DSS. I had no idea until one of the moms volunteered that she pays $50 a month for daycare. HUGE difference to my $1100+ bill. It never occurred to me that there were different rates mainly because I'm not familiar at all with the welfare system.
Bottom line is she is her & her son's sole support & earns very little money. She needs to work to support her family & needs a reliable & good daycare as much (if not more) than I do.
She's a good egg & loves her son just as much as I love my kids. She's not someone I would hang out with on a regularly not because she's on assistance but because she has different interests than me.
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Re: A topic we touched on and I am coming right out and asking--would you send your child to a day care that has a high percentage of kids on DSS (day care being paid through the welfare system)
Cailen is in a daycare like that now, so yes!
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