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Blazesyth
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Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
It seems like the coverage this year was very toned down. Not sure if it seems that way to me because I just wasn't exposed to it enough, or it is back to normal after last year 10 year anniversary was everywhere.
I mean usually on discovery, tlc, etc they have all those specials on for days leading up and on the day - but this year it seemed like they were showing half of what they did normally.
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Re: Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
Posted by Blazesyth
It seems like the coverage this year was very toned down. Not sure if it seems that way to me because I just wasn't exposed to it enough, or it is back to normal after last year 10 year anniversary was everywhere.
I mean usually on discovery, tlc, etc they have all those specials on for days leading up and on the day - but this year it seemed like they were showing half of what they did normally.
I agree - I felt it was definitely toned down. I work downtown a couple of blocks from Ground Zero and there was a small media area blocked off and you were able to get through (and they had Bloomberg, Giuliani and Schumer there at the time).
I understand that other areas in the country may not want to see the whole ceremony but, to schedule Kris Jenner? I'm sure there was a better topic that could be discussed.
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Xelindrya
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Re: Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
In Texas we had no moment of silence. We got the interview.
I didn't watch anyway but my hubby was quick to tell me. He also mentioned they did the same for the moment of slience for the London bombing.
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Re: Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
absolutely disgusting. Whoever was responsible for this should be fired. I get that mistakes are made but this is completely inexcusable
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Xelindrya
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Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
They said they had other moments of silence through the day (as if that's should be enough)
Must say I'm pretty disgusted by them. I always knew there'd come a time when folks would start to consider it 'normal' day with some 'history' like any other.
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Re: Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
I am on the fence about this. While I would never discourage a moment of silence, it has been 11 years. First, let me be clear, I am NOT minimizing remembrance of the day or the victims, I am NOT minimizing the sacrifices and the loss and the thousands of families affected to this day. I am NOT. Please do not presume or imply that is what I am saying.
With that said, I think to US, it is more horrifying bc it was an unspeakable horror during OUR time, so the impact is felt by us much more strongly. Some wounds reopen that day, to some they are still fresh and to others they have never healed. BUT - at some point, is it OK and do we give ourselves permission to move on? And by move on, I do not mean forget....look at Pearl Harbor, look at the USS Cole, WTC bombing in '93, and other national tragedies, they were all remembered on their subsequent anniversaries, but eventually, they became predominantly days of private reflection and remembrance. There is no national moment of silence, but yet people still remember in their own way.
I am in no way saying FORGET - could you ever? But I am saying, that maybe we have done the right thing for 10 years and if people begin to choose after 10 years, to personally reflect and not nationally mourn as a whole, when is that going to be OK? When will they not be condemned for it? Is 10 years enough?
Honestly, I don't have the answers, I do not know what the right thing to do is. I do not know when it is OK, it is all relative to how it effects an individual. I can understand some being disgusted by it, but I can also understand those who say, we have mourned together as a nation for 10 years (11 now) and it is time to "move on" - for lack of a better term. Move on isn't the correct term, but I hope you get what I mean.
It is a tough call. For some, it will never be OK, but for others, it is or will be.
(ETA - I DO completely understand the specific issue of replacing it with Kris Jenner. I can wholeheartedly get on board with those who have a problem with that. I guess, I am just asking or wondering on a bigger scale. I am sure, even if they ran a segment on something more meaningful and important, there would still people who would have had the same issue with them skipping the moment of silence.)
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Re: Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
Posted by 2BadSoSad
I am on the fence about this. While I would never discourage a moment of silence, it has been 11 years. First, let me be clear, I am NOT minimizing remembrance of the day or the victims, I am NOT minimizing the sacrifices and the loss and the thousands of families affected to this day. I am NOT. Please do not presume or imply that is what I am saying.
With that said, I think to US, it is more horrifying bc it was an unspeakable horror during OUR time, so the impact is felt by us much more strongly. Some wounds reopen that day, to some they are still fresh and to others they have never healed. BUT - at some point, is it OK and do we give ourselves permission to move on? And by move on, I do not mean forget....look at Pearl Harbor, look at the USS Cole, WTC bombing in '93, and other national tragedies, they were all remembered on their subsequent anniversaries, but eventually, they became predominantly days of private reflection and remembrance. There is no national moment of silence, but yet people still remember in their own way.
I am in no way saying FORGET - could you ever? But I am saying, that maybe we have done the right thing for 10 years and if people begin to choose after 10 years, to personally reflect and not nationally mourn as a whole, when is that going to be OK? When will they not be condemned for it? Is 10 years enough?
Honestly, I don't have the answers, I do not know what the right thing to do is. I do not know when it is OK, it is all relative to how it effects an individual. I can understand some being disgusted by it, but I can also understand those who say, we have mourned together as a nation for 10 years (11 now) and it is time to "move on" - for lack of a better term. Move on isn't the correct term, but I hope you get what I mean.
It is a tough call. For some, it will never be OK, but for others, it is or will be.
I think this is an issue to discuss.
But because they skipped it AND had an interview with a whorebag about breast implants, I think it was just over the top.
Keeping it classy NB...oh wait, too late for that.
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Xelindrya
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Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
10yrs is not enough. IMHO
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Re: Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
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Posted by 2BadSoSad
I am on the fence about this. While I would never discourage a moment of silence, it has been 11 years. First, let me be clear, I am NOT minimizing remembrance of the day or the victims, I am NOT minimizing the sacrifices and the loss and the thousands of families affected to this day. I am NOT. Please do not presume or imply that is what I am saying.
With that said, I think to US, it is more horrifying bc it was an unspeakable horror during OUR time, so the impact is felt by us much more strongly. Some wounds reopen that day, to some they are still fresh and to others they have never healed. BUT - at some point, is it OK and do we give ourselves permission to move on? And by move on, I do not mean forget....look at Pearl Harbor, look at the USS Cole, WTC bombing in '93, and other national tragedies, they were all remembered on their subsequent anniversaries, but eventually, they became predominantly days of private reflection and remembrance. There is no national moment of silence, but yet people still remember in their own way.
I am in no way saying FORGET - could you ever? But I am saying, that maybe we have done the right thing for 10 years and if people begin to choose after 10 years, to personally reflect and not nationally mourn as a whole, when is that going to be OK? When will they not be condemned for it? Is 10 years enough?
Honestly, I don't have the answers, I do not know what the right thing to do is. I do not know when it is OK, it is all relative to how it effects an individual. I can understand some being disgusted by it, but I can also understand those who say, we have mourned together as a nation for 10 years (11 now) and it is time to "move on" - for lack of a better term. Move on isn't the correct term, but I hope you get what I mean.
It is a tough call. For some, it will never be OK, but for others, it is or will be.
But because they skipped it AND had an interview with a whorebag about breast implants, I think it was just over the top.
I don't disagree, at all. I completely agree, at least if they were going to choose to not air the moment of silence, they could have filled the segment with something more meaningful and less trivial, like that whorebag.
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Re: Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
Posted by Xelindrya
10yrs is not enough. IMHO
This is the crux of it, I think. For you, it is not enough, for others it is. When do we forgive those, as a nation, who choose to make it a day or private and personal reflection and not of nationally televised mourning?
In no way do I think they should stop the national memorials at Ground Zero, at the Pentagon and in PA. At what point though, I should have said... is it OK to let those national services, open to all, be what they are and for those who choose to mark that day with moments of silence and mourning, attending memorial services without it being aired on TV? When is it OK to let that happen and to let those who choose to make it a more personal day and mark it in their own way, let it be just that? When is that OK, when do we give ourselves permission as a nation to let people do that without condemning them for being disgusting or disrespectful despite how we feel as individuals?
For the record, I am in complete support of the national moments of silence and I in fact welcome, watch and observe it but I do not feel those who choose not to do it are being disrespectful. However, I don't think the question is about us as individuals, but as a nation - when is it OK as a nation, despite having our personal feelings on how the day should be marked?
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Re: Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Posted by Xelindrya
10yrs is not enough. IMHO
This is the crux of it, I think. For you, it is not enough, for others it is. When do we forgive those, as a nation, who choose to make it a day or private and personal reflection and not of nationally televised mourning?
I should have specified earlier, I think I was speaking more to a "nationally televised day of mourning." In no way do I think they should stop the national memorials at Ground Zero, at the Pentagon and in PA. At what point though, I should have said... is it OK to let those services be what they are and for those who choose to mark that day with moments of silence and mourning attended memorial services without it being aired on TV? When is it OK to let that happen and to let those who choose to make it a more personal day, let it be just that? When is that OK, when do we give ourselves permission as a nation to let people do that without condemning them for being disgusting or disrespectful?
For the record, I am in complete support of the national moments of silence and I in fact welcome, watch and observe it but I do not feel those who choose not to do it are being disrespectful. However, I don't think the question is about us as individuals, but as a nation - when is it OK as a nation, despite having our personal feelings on how the day should be marked?
I understand this and let's be honest, I couldn't tell you what time of the day Pearl Harbor "happened" to observe a moment of silence on Dec. 7 each year. I get it. My own problem with what NBC did was that they decided to air an interview with the most selfish, self-centered, joke of an American on in place of the moment of silence. If it had been almost ANYTHING else, it wouldn't have been so disgusting TO ME.
That said, I don't think 11 years is enough time to nationally mourn the losses we had on 9/11/01. Not while there are men and women from all over the US still fighting the resulting war, not while there are still acts of terrorism occurring throughout the world, and not UNTIL the threat of terrorism is a distant memory should we stop. But that, of course, is just my opinion.
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Re: Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
Posted by 2BadSoSad
I am on the fence about this. While I would never discourage a moment of silence, it has been 11 years. First, let me be clear, I am NOT minimizing remembrance of the day or the victims, I am NOT minimizing the sacrifices and the loss and the thousands of families affected to this day. I am NOT. Please do not presume or imply that is what I am saying.
With that said, I think to US, it is more horrifying bc it was an unspeakable horror during OUR time, so the impact is felt by us much more strongly. Some wounds reopen that day, to some they are still fresh and to others they have never healed. BUT - at some point, is it OK and do we give ourselves permission to move on? And by move on, I do not mean forget....look at Pearl Harbor, look at the USS Cole, WTC bombing in '93, and other national tragedies, they were all remembered on their subsequent anniversaries, but eventually, they became predominantly days of private reflection and remembrance. There is no national moment of silence, but yet people still remember in their own way.
I am in no way saying FORGET - could you ever? But I am saying, that maybe we have done the right thing for 10 years and if people begin to choose after 10 years, to personally reflect and not nationally mourn as a whole, when is that going to be OK? When will they not be condemned for it? Is 10 years enough?
Honestly, I don't have the answers, I do not know what the right thing to do is. I do not know when it is OK, it is all relative to how it effects an individual. I can understand some being disgusted by it, but I can also understand those who say, we have mourned together as a nation for 10 years (11 now) and it is time to "move on" - for lack of a better term. Move on isn't the correct term, but I hope you get what I mean.
I discussed this topic w/ DH and he had very similar thoughts.
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Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
I do understand that they say it was time to move on but seriously there are so many people alive connected in such a deep way to 9/11 still it's almost impossible to do that just yet. And if you do want to move on and not honor moments of silence then do it with a little more class not with a freakin Kardashian talking about her boobs. There's a million other topics that would have been so much more appropriate.
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Anyone see this...Today show 9/11 and Kris Jenner
I personally do not feel it's time to move on yet. My heart sinks every time hear "9/11" or "September 11"
Perhaps it's because it was a defining moment of my youth I will always remember it that way. As we age and younger generations grow up, it may not have as much significance to them and will be merely a chapter in our history books.
I just think it's too soon to put it by the wayside and not honor that day, and I think that Kris Jenner was a poor choice to be aired that day...
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