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anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

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anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

A woman at my gymboree class noticed Melania sitting on her knees, with them spread to her sides (like the letter W)
she sits like this often..shes 9 months old, and has been doing it here and there for about a month. The lady told me her ds was in speech therapy and the therapist told her that since he was sitting this way as well, it was effecting his speech? Something about "low on the hips, slow on the lips"??

Has anyone ever heard this? Any truth to it?
BTW: my dd is already very physically advanced, and she does say mama dada pop pop and cat already, so im not so sure this could be true across the board? Got me nervous though, and thinking.

Posted 10/4/09 8:06 PM
 
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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

I just started speech for my ds so I could ask. I honestly never heard of that I only heard that their hearing and if they have I forgot what it's called but it's under the tongue, if that too short it can effects speech.

Posted 10/4/09 8:12 PM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

The "W" sit can be a sign of low muscle tone. I would just speak to your ped. about it. You could also switch her position when she does sit like that.

ETA: I would bet that woman's son was probably getting more than speech. He may have been getting other therapies (PT, OT)

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Posted 10/4/09 8:14 PM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

I've had to children in speech and never have heard of it, but if I remember I'm gonna ask on tues. when I take my son.

Posted 10/4/09 8:15 PM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

Jaime, I never heard of this at all, who in the class said this???

Posted 10/4/09 8:29 PM
 

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I am a speech therapist and I have never heard of this. HMMMMM

Posted 10/4/09 8:56 PM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

Posted by Stacey1403

The "W" sit can be a sign of low muscle tone. I would just speak to your ped. about it. You could also switch her position when she does sit like that.

ETA: I would bet that woman's son was probably getting more than speech. He may have been getting other therapies (PT, OT)



i agree with this. i've heard the W position for sitting is a no no for kids who are getting PT or OT for things like low muscle tone. it causes the hips to spread when they shouldn't or something like that. but it can be a problem for physical stuff, never heard of it for speech, and my DS had speech for years.

Posted 10/4/09 9:37 PM
 

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Posted by tran92

Posted by Stacey1403

The "W" sit can be a sign of low muscle tone. I would just speak to your ped. about it. You could also switch her position when she does sit like that.

ETA: I would bet that woman's son was probably getting more than speech. He may have been getting other therapies (PT, OT)



i agree with this. i've heard the W position for sitting is a no no for kids who are getting PT or OT for things like low muscle tone. it causes the hips to spread when they shouldn't or something like that. but it can be a problem for physical stuff, never heard of it for speech, and my DS had speech for years.




I've also heard of it for muscle tone from my son's therapist. Never in the context of speech. Interesting that there is actually a little ryhme that goes with it.

Posted 10/4/09 10:11 PM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

Posted by DNR

I am a speech therapist and I have never heard of this. HMMMMM



same here.... also a speech therapist, and have never heard of this.
but, it does sort of make sense as far as low muscle tone and stuff- if the hips and legs have low muscle tone, the mouth muscles might be low muscle tone, too...
it sounds lke your DD is doing great though, already saying or trying to say a few words- i wouldn't be too concerned about it, maybe just mention it to your ped next time you go...

Posted 10/4/09 10:46 PM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

I teach special ed. Many of my students receive OT and have low muscle tone. Most of my students also receive speech therapy. Some of them who receive both services have poor mouth posture. I am thinking of one in particular who also has feeding issues as well as extremely poor articulation. I would think there is a correlation of some sort for her to make a proclamation such as that.

HOWEVER it was extremely rude and inappropriate for her to say something which sounds so "diagnostic" when she is clearly not a diagnostician. That can be frightening to a parent.

Posted 10/4/09 11:07 PM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

Posted by Stacey1403

The "W" sit can be a sign of low muscle tone. I would just speak to your ped. about it. You could also switch her position when she does sit like that.


TRUE. I used to work with a child who was getting a PT and OT for low muscle tone and that is one of the signs. The therapists always told us to always correct him and remind him not to sit in a W.

I do have to say though, I am 29 and I always sit in W on the floor. When I'm online or reading or doing whatever. I don't sit normal, I sit in a WChat Icon
I have always done it , ever since I was little but I never had any kind of problems.

Posted 10/5/09 12:01 AM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

Just wanted to write that I sat that way for years and never had any problems with muscle tone or speech.

Posted 10/5/09 1:03 AM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

Posted by Stacey1403

The "W" sit can be a sign of low muscle tone. I would just speak to your ped. about it. You could also switch her position when she does sit like that.

ETA: I would bet that woman's son was probably getting more than speech. He may have been getting other therapies (PT, OT)



DS gets speech and OT and the OT told me it's a sign of low muscle tone and generally bad for the posture. We've been working on it - she'd rather he sit like a pretzel or with both legs to one side - the latter is best because it activates a variety of muscles to improve tone.

Posted 10/5/09 8:20 AM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

i sit like this all the time and was an early talker/reader. DS seems to have inherited this trait from me and he does have a few words - although he is more interested in making animal noises Chat Icon

until she shows some evidence of speech issues i would not worry Chat Icon

Posted 10/5/09 8:21 AM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

Posted by MommyAgain

A woman at my gymboree class noticed Melania sitting on her knees, with them spread to her sides (like the letter W)
she sits like this often..shes 9 months old, and has been doing it here and there for about a month. The lady told me her ds was in speech therapy and the therapist told her that since he was sitting this way as well, it was effecting his speech? Something about "low on the hips, slow on the lips"??

Has anyone ever heard this? Any truth to it?
BTW: my dd is already very physically advanced, and she does say mama dada pop pop and cat already, so im not so sure this could be true across the board? Got me nervous though, and thinking.



I've never heard that term specifically, but do know that generally kids with low tone often are at RISK for speech delays (which is where I'm assuming where the "term" came from). It doesn't mean that one causes the other.

When diagnosing a kid with something, whether it be speech, motor (gross or fine), etc, MANY areas need to be assessed. Just because a child sits that way doesn't automatically mean a motor delay.

If you and your pediatrician don't have any concerns (and it sounds like you shouldn't), then put her ramblings out of her head. It sounds like her therapist needs to lay off the cute sayings and just stick with therapy me thinks.Chat Icon

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Posted 10/5/09 8:30 AM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

There is a definitely a connection - I can't explain how since it's new to me, but I have been told by professionals that it is. My DS has a speech delay and when he was evaluated, I didn't realize he needed and OT eval. Now his speech therapist said he shoudl get an OT eval bc he toe walks and sits like a "W", the latter I knew was not good so I always try to correct it but I didn't know it was related to speech. He is getting his OT eval next week. I know an Occ Ther and she said many times she's seen a child get OT for the gross motor and it helps the fine motor tremendously, which I am hoping is the case.

I do agree it was a leap for a mother to say that since your child is so young, she's not a professional and she really doesn' know your DC but I don't know that it was so horrible. It's just more info for you to store as a parent should something come up in the future. I'd rather have heard of more than less, KWIM?

Posted 10/5/09 9:20 AM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

I am an OT and "W" sitting can be a sign of low muscle tone, however it isn't usually seen a concern of low muscle tone until the child is 2-3 years old. It can be quite typical to see in a younger child as their muscles are still very lax.

I guess I can see the connection to the speech issues if the mouth also has low muscle tone, but not in a 9 month old.

Posted 10/5/09 9:53 AM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

My DD who will be 3 sits like this all the time. I only recently started to make her change positions. I never saw her as having low muscle tone but it does make some sense.

She was always early with milestones, sitting up, crawling, walking, however she never runs as fast as other children, and is not as quick on her feet as my DS, but I never thought anything of it. She spoke early, but sometimes she doesn't speak that clear - but has a full vocabulary and speaks in full sentences, etc. I just see it as "her" not an issue. I did a search and found this:

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Posted 10/5/09 9:58 AM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

ok ladies, thank you SOOOO much for the replies..i just found this thread again (i couldnt find it for hours lol) and had a few questions..

First..thank you to all who replied..i dont know if i thought she was being rude, but it DEFINATELY has made me concerned..even now that im reading that this DOES have some correlation..so now some dumb questions by me..
If she had low muscle tone..would she have been crawling by 5 months? Would she have been pulling up to stnading by 7 months? And now at 9 months, taking 2-3 steps alone?
And also, since she IS saying 2 words BESIDES mama and dada (and she knows who we are each seperately) could there still be a problem im not yet aware of??
I have her ped appt next week, but id love some insight from those of you who happened to answer..

thanks again..im kinda nervous now.

eta: i do want to mention, that when shes sitting like this, its usually to play, and then she moves from that position, to kneeling on one knee..then to standing sometimes, OR just to move around and crawl..
she never stays like that for more then a minute or two, and since this happened ive been discouraging it..but i feel like the more i discourage, the more she wants to sit that way?

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Posted 10/5/09 9:54 PM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

I'm sorry she scared you, most likely needlessly. I guess people try to be helpful, but it doesn't always come out that way.

Next time you go to the pediatrician, I would mention how she sits just to get it off your chest. She may be sitting this way now also since I'm guessing sitting is still relatively new for her and her muscles may not be built up so much yet.

I am not a speech therapist, and I am new to speech therapy, but nothing I have read suggests sitting in this position is indicative of a speech problem. I guess it could be a sign of low muscle tone which in turn could turn into a speech problem, but if she is saying words at 9 months, this doesn't sound like the case. DS was not saying any words at 9 months, just babble.

But honestly, try not to worry about it too much.

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Posted 10/5/09 10:24 PM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

Posted by tran92

Posted by Stacey1403

The "W" sit can be a sign of low muscle tone. I would just speak to your ped. about it. You could also switch her position when she does sit like that.

ETA: I would bet that woman's son was probably getting more than speech. He may have been getting other therapies (PT, OT)



i agree with this. i've heard the W position for sitting is a no no for kids who are getting PT or OT for things like low muscle tone. it causes the hips to spread when they shouldn't or something like that. but it can be a problem for physical stuff, never heard of it for speech, and my DS had speech for years.

This is true - however at 9 months I wouldn't be too concerned about low tone unless she is behind on her physical milestones, which you said she isn't, right?

Posted 10/5/09 10:45 PM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

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Posted by tran92

Posted by Stacey1403

The "W" sit can be a sign of low muscle tone. I would just speak to your ped. about it. You could also switch her position when she does sit like that.

ETA: I would bet that woman's son was probably getting more than speech. He may have been getting other therapies (PT, OT)



i agree with this. i've heard the W position for sitting is a no no for kids who are getting PT or OT for things like low muscle tone. it causes the hips to spread when they shouldn't or something like that. but it can be a problem for physical stuff, never heard of it for speech, and my DS had speech for years.

This is true - however at 9 months I wouldn't be too concerned about low tone unless she is behind on her physical milestones, which you said she isn't, right?



shes not liza, shes actually totally opposite, and very ahead of schedule on most things..do you think its something i still would need to think about?

Posted 10/6/09 8:40 AM
 

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Re: anyone taking speech therapy ever hear this?

Jack used to sit in the W all the time - that was one of the first things the evaluators and therapists mentioned to us. They like for them to sit in more of a V. To be honest, I didn't give it a second thought once they walked out the door! Chat Icon

Posted 10/6/09 8:49 AM
 
 

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