Posted By |
Message |
Pages: [1] 2 3 |
Wendy
Wheeee!
Member since 5/05 13736 total posts
Name:
|
AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
By BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE, ADAM GOLDMAN and MATT APUZZO Associated Press Writers The Associated Press ANCHORAGE, Alaska
Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.
The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Bristol for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel.
In all, Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters' 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights since she took office in December 2006. In some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls.
Alaska law does not specifically address expenses for a governor's children. The law allows for payment of expenses for anyone conducting official state business.
As governor, Palin justified having the state pay for the travel of her daughters — Bristol, 17; Willow, 14; and Piper, 7 — by noting on travel forms that the girls had been invited to attend or participate in events on the governor's schedule.
But some organizers of these events said they were surprised when the Palin children showed up uninvited, or said they agreed to a request by the governor to allow the children to attend.
Several other organizers said the children merely accompanied their mother and did not participate. The trips enabled Palin, whose main state office is in the capital of Juneau, to spend more time with her children.
"She said any event she can take her kids to is an event she tries to attend," said Jennifer McCarthy, who helped organize the June 2007 Family Day Celebration picnic in Ketchikan that Piper attended with her parents.
State Finance Director Kim Garnero told The Associated Press she has not reviewed the Palins' travel expense forms, so she could not say whether the daughters' travel with their mother would meet the definition of official business.
On Aug. 6, three weeks before Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain chose Palin his running mate, and after Alaska reporters asked for the records, Palin ordered changes to previously filed expense reports for her daughters' travel.
In the amended reports, Palin added phrases such as "First Family attending" and "First Family invited" to explain the girls' attendance.
"The governor said, 'I want the purpose and the reason for this travel to be clear,'" said Linda Perez, state director of administrative services.
When Palin released her family's tax records as part of her vice presidential campaign, some tax experts questioned why she did not report the children's state travel reimbursements as income.
The Palins released a review by a Washington attorney who said state law allows the children's travel expenses to be reimbursed and not taxed when they conduct official state business.
Taylor Griffin, a McCain-Palin campaign spokesman, said Palin followed state policy allowing governors to charge for their children's travel. He said the governor's office has invitations requesting the family to attend some events, but he said he did not have them to provide.
In October 2007, Palin brought daughter Bristol along on a trip to New York for a women's leadership conference. Plane tickets from Anchorage to La Guardia Airport for $1,385.11 were billed to the state, records show, and mother and daughter shared a room for four nights at the $707.29-per-night Essex House hotel, which overlooks Central Park.
The event's organizers said Palin asked if she could bring her daughter.
Alexis Gelber, who organized Newsweek's Third Annual Women & Leadership Conference, said she does not know how Bristol ended up attending. Gelber said invitees usually attend alone, but some ask if they can bring a relative or friend.
Griffin, the campaign spokesman, said he believes someone with the event personally sent an e-mail to Bristol inviting her, but he did not have it to provide. Records show Palin also met with Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Goldman Sachs representatives and visited the New York Stock Exchange.
In January, the governor, Willow and Piper showed up at the Alaska Symphony of Seafood Buffet, an Anchorage gala to announce winners of an earlier seafood competition.
"She was just there," said James Browning, executive director of Alaska Fisheries Development Foundation, which runs the event. Griffin said the governor's office received an invitation that was not specifically addressed to anyone.
When Palin amended her children's expense reports, she listed a role for the two girls at the function — "to draw two separate raffle tickets."
In the original travel form, Palin listed a number of events that her children attended and said they were there "in official capacity helping." She did not identify any specific roles for the girls.
In July, the governor charged the state $2,741.26 to take Bristol and Piper to Philadelphia for a meeting of the National Governors Association. The girls had their own room for five nights at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel for $215.46 a night, expense records show.
Expense forms describe the girls' official purpose as "NGA Governor's Youth Programs and family activities." But those programs were activities designed to keep children busy, a service provided by the NGA to accommodate governors and their families, NGA spokeswoman Jodi Omear said.
In addition to the commercial flights, the children have traveled dozens of times with Palin on a state plane. For these flights, the total cost of operating the plane, at $971 an hour, was about $55,000, according to state flight logs. The cost of operating the state plane does not increase when the children join their mother.
The organizer of an American Heart Association luncheon on Feb. 15 in Fairbanks said Palin asked to bring daughter Piper to the event, and the organizer said she was surprised when Palin showed up with daughters Willow and Bristol as well.
The three Palin daughters shared a room separate from their mother at the Princess Lodge in Fairbanks for two nights, at a cost to the state of $129 per night.
The luncheon took place before Palin's husband, Todd, finished fourth in the 2,000-mile Iron Dog snowmobile race, also in Fairbanks. The family greeted him at the finish line.
When Palin showed up at the luncheon with not just Piper but also Willow and Bristol, organizers had to scramble to make room at the main table, said Janet Bartels, who set up the event.
"When it's the governor, you just make it happen," she said.
The state is already reviewing nearly $17,000 in per diem payments to Palin for more than 300 nights she slept at her own home, 40 miles from her satellite office in Anchorage.
Tony Knowles, a Democratic former governor of Alaska who lost to Palin in a 2006 bid to reclaim the job, said he never charged the state for his three children's commercial flights or claimed their travel as official state business.
Knowles, who was governor from 1994 to 2002, is the only other recent Alaska governor who had school-age children while in office.
"There was no valid reason for the children to be along on state business," said Knowles, a supporter of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. "I cannot recall any instance during my eight years as governor where it would have been appropriate to claim they performed state business."
Knowles said he brought his children to one NGA event while in office but didn't charge the state for their trip.
In February 2007, the three girls flew from Juneau to Anchorage on Alaska Airlines. Palin charged the state for the $519.30 round-trip ticket for each girl, and noted on the expense form that the daughters accompanied her to "open the start of the Iron Dog race."
The children and their mother then watched as Todd Palin and other racers started the competition, which Todd won that year. Palin later had the relevant expense forms changed to describe the girls' business as "First Family official starter for the start of the Iron Dog race."
The Palins began charging the state for commercial flights after the governor kept a 2006 campaign promise to sell a jet bought by her predecessor.
Palin put the jet up for sale on eBay, a move she later trumpeted in her star-making speech at the Republican National Convention, and it was ultimately sold by the state at a loss.
That left only one high-performance aircraft deemed safe enough for her to use — a 1980 twin-engine King Air assigned to the public safety agency but, according to flight logs, out of service for maintenance and repairs about a third of the time Palin has been governor.
|
Posted 10/22/08 9:04 AM |
|
|
Long Island Weddings
Long Island's Largest Bridal Resource |
CookiePuss
Cake from Outer Space!
Member since 5/05 14021 total posts
Name:
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
I don't see the big deal. I would expect Barak and Michelle to take their girls with them and expense those charges as well. I wish the news would stop picking on such small things with both parties and stick to things that matter - like FISCAL POLICY, TRADE RELATIONS, ENERGY, etc.
"Ritz-Carlton Hotel for $215.46 a night" - This really isn't expensive for a hotel in a large capital city at all.
Message edited 10/22/2008 9:21:09 AM.
|
Posted 10/22/08 9:16 AM |
|
|
usuk2004
I'm ONE!
Member since 5/05 5150 total posts
Name: Farah
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
I'm kind of in two minds about this. On the one hand, I feel there's a terrible double standard with women in politics. Everyone thinks it's so progressive to have a working mother in office, but they don't want to know the reality of it - ie, having to take your children with you. In fact people love to see the picture perfect moments of her appearing with her children - but then will complain about the expenses involved in getting them there.
On the other hand, it sounds as if she was taking advantage of the situation a few times. I see nothing wrong with taking your children with you - or even expensing their travel where necessary - I do see something wrong with putting them in their own room at $200+/night when it's not necessary.
|
Posted 10/22/08 9:17 AM |
|
|
HeathKernandez
Our Ron is an awesome Ron
Member since 4/07 9091 total posts
Name: baby fish mouth
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Posted by usuk2004
I'm kind of in two minds about this. On the one hand, I feel there's a terrible double standard with women in politics. Everyone thinks it's so progressive to have a working mother in office, but they don't want to know the reality of it - ie, having to take your children with you. In fact people love to see the picture perfect moments of her appearing with her children - but then will complain about the expenses involved in getting them there.
On the other hand, it sounds as if she was taking advantage of the situation a few times. I see nothing wrong with taking your children with you - or even expensing their travel where necessary - I do see something wrong with putting them in their own room at $200+/night when it's not necessary.
I agree with both of your minds..
|
Posted 10/22/08 9:25 AM |
|
|
nov04libride
big brother <3
Member since 5/05 14672 total posts
Name: Me
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
My father is in a relatively high-level state position, and my brother and I occasionally attended events with him. Basically whatever was being paid for with him going solo, he did not contribute to (so we shared 1 hotel room, so didn't pay for that). He paid himself for our plane tickets (but if we drove, the state paid for the gas), meals, etc. I think it's just a moral/ethical dilemma. I don't think it is ethically right to have taxpayers paying for your children to have their own room. My DH sometimes goes to conferences with me and shares my hotel room, but I don't expect my job to pay for his airfare.
I think it gives women in general a bad rap that some abuse the system with the excuse that they want to spend more time with their children.
|
Posted 10/22/08 9:38 AM |
|
|
Ophelia
she's baaccckkkk ;)
Member since 5/06 23378 total posts
Name: remember, when Gulliver traveled....
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
I wouldn't worry too much about it.
IF she becomes VP, she will get the govt rate for ALL travel expenses
|
Posted 10/22/08 10:06 AM |
|
|
bluegreen08
LIF Adolescent
Member since 10/07 574 total posts
Name: a
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
i think it's great that she tries to bring her daughters with her as much as possible. i have no problem with them sharing a hotel room, since it's a room Palin would have needed anyway and does not cost any extra.
Flights, when they cost extra, are a little different IMO
Message edited 10/22/2008 10:29:46 AM.
|
Posted 10/22/08 10:29 AM |
|
|
nov04libride
big brother <3
Member since 5/05 14672 total posts
Name: Me
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Posted by bluegreen08
i think it's great that she tries to bring her daughters with her as much as possible. i have no problem with them sharing a hotel room, since it's a room Palin would have needed anyway and does not cost any extra.
Flights, when they cost extra, are a little different IMO
But the girls had their own room; that was the issue I think.
|
Posted 10/22/08 10:44 AM |
|
|
evnme
My little lamb
Member since 8/05 12633 total posts
Name: aka momma2b
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Joe Biden gave money left over from his presidential campaign to his wife's lawfirm.
discuss.....
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:45 PM |
|
|
Beth
The Key to your new home....
Member since 2/06 24849 total posts
Name: Beth
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Posted by evnme
Joe Biden gave money left over from his presidential campaign to his wife's lawfirm.
discuss.....
source?
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:47 PM |
|
|
SweetestOfPeas
J'taime Paris!
Member since 3/06 32345 total posts
Name:
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
ok this is just getting WAY out of hand now!
the Gov't is known for spending $1,000 on a toilet seat and $200 for a hammer. and this is an issue now because...........? clearly the media is having a grand old time probing Palin - while turning not just a blind eye, but BOTH of them to anyone else!
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:48 PM |
|
|
snowflake08
Love my boys!!!
Member since 8/07 5148 total posts
Name: Laura
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Tony Rezko paid for Obama's college tuition
Discuss..............
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:48 PM |
|
|
Beth
The Key to your new home....
Member since 2/06 24849 total posts
Name: Beth
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Posted by snowflake08
Tony Rezko paid for Obama's college tuition
Discuss..............
start you own thread if you want to discuss something else
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:49 PM |
|
|
pinkandblue
Our family is complete, maybe
Member since 9/05 32436 total posts
Name: Stephanie
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Posted by Beth1210
Posted by snowflake08
Tony Rezko paid for Obama's college tuition
Discuss..............
start you own thread if you want to discuss something else
EXACTLY....I mean how hard is it to NOT hijack EVERYONE's post????
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:50 PM |
|
|
JennZ
MY LIFE!!
Member since 8/05 25463 total posts
Name:
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
So sick of all this crap. Everything is a competition on who can bash which candidate. I have never seen an election take such a turn for the worse an bring out such nastiness in people on BOTH sides.
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:52 PM |
|
|
snowflake08
Love my boys!!!
Member since 8/07 5148 total posts
Name: Laura
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
oh im sorry was i the only one that did that?
hmmmmmmm everyone loves a scapegoat
LOL Im voting republican AND i'm Jewish - this is GREAT!!!!
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:52 PM |
|
|
snowflake08
Love my boys!!!
Member since 8/07 5148 total posts
Name: Laura
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Posted by evnme
Joe Biden gave money left over from his presidential campaign to his wife's lawfirm.
discuss..... sorry, you know we agree but this one was asked for a "source" and i was "yelled" at to start another thread
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:53 PM |
|
|
Luv2bAmom
LIF Adult
Member since 2/08 1255 total posts
Name: J
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Posted by snowflake08
Tony Rezko paid for Obama's college tuition
Discuss..............
Martians Paid for McCain's 7 homes
Discusss
GEt real, you can make anything up and think its a fact??
Its wel lknown that Shcolarhsips & Student loans is how both Michelle & Barack paid for their college educations.
Snopes
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:54 PM |
|
|
evnme
My little lamb
Member since 8/05 12633 total posts
Name: aka momma2b
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
beth- here's the link
source
Message edited 10/22/2008 4:55:30 PM.
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:54 PM |
|
|
Beth
The Key to your new home....
Member since 2/06 24849 total posts
Name: Beth
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
b/c I know yours is FALSE already
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:54 PM |
|
|
snowflake08
Love my boys!!!
Member since 8/07 5148 total posts
Name: Laura
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Posted by evnme
Joe Biden gave money left over from his presidential campaign to his wife's lawfirm.
discuss.....
i was adding another "discuss" topic thought it was TOTALLY appropriate LOLOLOLOL
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:54 PM |
|
|
Luv2bAmom
LIF Adult
Member since 2/08 1255 total posts
Name: J
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Posted by evnme
beth- here's the link
source
He did not just give it ot them he employed their law firms BIG difference.
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:56 PM |
|
|
evnme
My little lamb
Member since 8/05 12633 total posts
Name: aka momma2b
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Posted by snowflake08
Posted by evnme
Joe Biden gave money left over from his presidential campaign to his wife's lawfirm.
discuss.....
i was adding another "discuss" topic thought it was TOTALLY appropriate LOLOLOLOL
scroll up a few posts for the link to the source
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:56 PM |
|
|
snowflake08
Love my boys!!!
Member since 8/07 5148 total posts
Name: Laura
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
Posted by Beth1210
b/c I know yours is FALSE already
oh riiiiiiiight
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:56 PM |
|
|
wannabemom
look who's freshly baked!
Member since 12/07 7364 total posts
Name: aka marriedinportjeff
|
Re: AP INVESTIGATION: Palin charged state for children's travel, later amended expense reports
ya know, IMO, I actually can't stand sarah palin (mainly becuase she's frightfully ignorant on some topics and is way too comfy spewing spin on the campaign trail)... yet I don't care what she charged, and I don't find that to be an abuse of power....
I am a new mom, and have to go on some business trips. While the gov't pays my way, I'm sure I'll have to pay DC's way occassionally. I think it's not right. If I didn't have to go on the trip, I wouldn't have the childcare issues and expenses that I will have.
so, if they get their own room, I frankly don't care. That's life. the family shouldn't always have to suffer becuase of her job. Surely, she has paid many huge babysitter bills to cover her extended hours of work and wierd schedule.
the only thing I wonder about is why her husband couldn't take care of them at the time? but, I will refrain from judging her situation....
|
Posted 10/22/08 4:56 PM |
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 3 |