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MrsH
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Re: Bus drivers, bus stops, and ... I have no idea how to title this. Just come in and offer insight. Thanks.

You might be able to write a letter to your son's school and transportation and inform them that you do not give permission for your son to be released unless there is a designated adult waiting for him at the stop. I seem to remember someone doing that and having it upheld in the district I work in. It's worth a shot. Second grade is WAY to young to be released without an adult!

Posted 9/7/15 10:02 PM
 

afternoondelight828
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Posted by MrsH

You might be able to write a letter to your son's school and transportation and inform them that you do not give permission for your son to be released unless there is a designated adult waiting for him at the stop. I seem to remember someone doing that and having it upheld in the district I work in. It's worth a shot. Second grade is WAY to young to be released without an adult!




Yes, I would say worth a shot but IME, the rules are the rules and if they bend it for one person, they would have to do it for others.
The problem with people (in general and not speaking of yourself or even this poster) is that they think they are entitled to do whatever they want and that others should bend the rules for them. Life doesn't work that way. That is why there are other options in this situation.

Posted 9/8/15 7:51 AM
 

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I have a general question in regards to this.
DD is in K and of course, not allowed off the bus without an adult (they said in their letters that they recently expanded that to 1st grade as well).

However, does your bus driver actually look to see what parent belongs to which children?

Because the few times I've gone to get her off the bus this past week (DH normally goes to the bus stop unless I'm working from home) there are several parents at the stop and some have more than one kid, and the kids all just get off and the driver never seems to really take note of who belongs to who.

So I could easily see a kid getting off and just getting in the mix of all the parents/kids/confusion and not really having a parent there.

I don't see him formally matching up each kid that gets off to a parent.

Just curious how other bus driver's do this and police this rule.




Message edited 9/8/2015 11:42:47 AM.

Posted 9/8/15 11:42 AM
 

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Posted by NervousNell

I have a general question in regards to this.
DD is in K and of course, not allowed off the bus without an adult (they said in their letters that they recently expanded that to 1st grade as well).

However, does your bus driver actually look to see what parent belongs to which children?

Because the few times I've gone to get her off the bus this past week (DH normally goes to the bus stop unless I'm working from home) there are several parents at the stop and some have more than one kid, and the kids all just get off and the driver never seems to really take note of who belongs to who.

So I could easily see a kid getting off and just getting in the mix of all the parents/kids/confusion and not really having a parent there.

I don't see him formally matching up each kid that gets off to a parent.

Just curious how other bus driver's do this and police this rule.







In our district, the kindergarteners sit in the first rows of the bus, so they get off first at the stop and it is easier for the bus driver to see who they are going to.

Message edited 9/8/2015 12:08:08 PM.

Posted 9/8/15 12:04 PM
 

busymomonli
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While I don't agree with the policy, I do think that teaching your child to let themselves in and putting a house key in their backpack is something everyone should do. If this is not something you're willing to do, you need to make an alternate plan for your child should something happen (i.e. a safe place they know they can go to, a neighbor) in CASE something unexpectedly happens. While we don't plan for it, things happen. (bad weather, emergencies, unexpected dismissal etc.).

It's not something we ever like to think about, but if my child were dropped at home without anyone there, I would not want him/her wandering or waiting outside.

Posted 9/8/15 1:19 PM
 

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My DD's school has the same policy (parent only needs to be there in K), but the bus driver knows the kids and their routines so if someone is always there and on one particular day they are not, they would take the child back to school at the end of the route. Last year, my dd's (1st grade) babysitter was a few minutes late getting to the stop due to traffic. The bus driver noticed that normally on Wednesdays the babysitter meets her and she wasn't there. She waited a minute and the baby sitter pulled up but the driver would have taken her back to school. I would talk to the driver. While it may not be the policy, he/she may have a way to handle it that would ease your worries. If not, then I would just have sitter pick up at school.

Posted 9/8/15 1:34 PM
 

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Posted by busymomonli

While I don't agree with the policy, I do think that teaching your child to let themselves in and putting a house key in their backpack is something everyone should do. If this is not something you're willing to do, you need to make an alternate plan for your child should something happen (i.e. a safe place they know they can go to, a neighbor) in CASE something unexpectedly happens. While we don't plan for it, things happen. (bad weather, emergencies, unexpected dismissal etc.).

It's not something we ever like to think about, but if my child were dropped at home without anyone there, I would not want him/her wandering or waiting outside.



I agree. But .. At 7? I don't know.

I also don't have traditional neighbors nearby really. I live in a unique spot.

My solution is to have any child care giver pick him up at school to be on safe side. My only option here really.

Message edited 9/8/2015 2:16:34 PM.

Posted 9/8/15 1:39 PM
 

BargainMama
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Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by MrsH

You might be able to write a letter to your son's school and transportation and inform them that you do not give permission for your son to be released unless there is a designated adult waiting for him at the stop. I seem to remember someone doing that and having it upheld in the district I work in. It's worth a shot. Second grade is WAY to young to be released without an adult!




Yes, I would say worth a shot but IME, the rules are the rules and if they bend it for one person, they would have to do it for others.
The problem with people (in general and not speaking of yourself or even this poster) is that they think they are entitled to do whatever they want and that others should bend the rules for them. Life doesn't work that way. That is why there are other options in this situation.



We get that you have older kids, but seriously, back off a little. We get the "rules" but rules ARE made to be bent a little....or they would be called "laws". Many of your posts come off as just so condescending.

Posted 9/8/15 1:45 PM
 

NervousNell
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Re: Bus drivers, bus stops, and ... I have no idea how to title this. Just come in and offer insight. Thanks.

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

Posted by busymomonli

While I don't agree with the policy, I do think that teaching your child to let themselves in and putting a house key in their backpack is something everyone should do. If this is not something you're willing to do, you need to make an alternate plan for your child should something happen (i.e. a safe place they know they can go to, a neighbor) in CASE something unexpectedly happens. While we don't plan for it, things happen. (bad weather, emergencies, unexpected dismissal etc.).

It's not something we ever like to think about, but if my child were dropped at home without anyone there, I would not want him/her wandering or waiting outside.



I agree. But .. At 7? I don't know.

I also don't have traditional neighbors nearby really. I live in a unique spot.

My solution is to have any child care giver pick him up at school to be on safe side. My only option here really.



Honestly- I don't think it's even LEGAL for a 7 year old to be home alone.

Posted 9/8/15 2:00 PM
 

busymomonli
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I am certainly not talking about having your 7 year old letting himself in on a regular bases. I meant in "extreme emergencies", you don't want your child waiting outside. If the bus driver should pull away and leave your child accidentally, its a good idea if they know what to do.

Posted 9/8/15 2:05 PM
 

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Aftercare is a good option. I did that last year. I would do it this year but I have two kids - one of which is in pre k. They don't take pre k in aftercare and the pre k is half day anyway. It didn't make financial sense to pay a sitter to watch pre k'er and then have older DS go to aftercare ($$) you know?

Ah the plight of the working parent. Chat Icon plus my hours are so awful (when it comes to having kids) and I can't really ask for that to be changed in this climate (not that I could anyway.)

It'll all work out, I'm sure. I'm already so anxious about sitter driving them home. :(

But like I said .. I'm sure it'll all work out. :).


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Posted 9/8/15 2:21 PM
 

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Re: Bus drivers, bus stops, and ... I have no idea how to title this. Just come in and offer insight. Thanks.

Posted by NervousNell

I have a general question in regards to this.
DD is in K and of course, not allowed off the bus without an adult (they said in their letters that they recently expanded that to 1st grade as well).

However, does your bus driver actually look to see what parent belongs to which children?

Because the few times I've gone to get her off the bus this past week (DH normally goes to the bus stop unless I'm working from home) there are several parents at the stop and some have more than one kid, and the kids all just get off and the driver never seems to really take note of who belongs to who.

So I could easily see a kid getting off and just getting in the mix of all the parents/kids/confusion and not really having a parent there.

I don't see him formally matching up each kid that gets off to a parent.

Just curious how other bus driver's do this and police this rule.




Wait until you get the letter next year where you can sign to allow your 1st grader to get off the bus without a parent present. I tossed that letter right in the garbage. YIKES! Chat Icon

With regards to the bus driver...we've been lucky and have one that knows us from the bus stop in the mornings & talks to us. She makes a point to get to know the kindergarten parents at the stop. Thankfully we have her again this year too.

Posted 9/8/15 4:15 PM
 

afternoondelight828
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Posted by BargainMama

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by MrsH

You might be able to write a letter to your son's school and transportation and inform them that you do not give permission for your son to be released unless there is a designated adult waiting for him at the stop. I seem to remember someone doing that and having it upheld in the district I work in. It's worth a shot. Second grade is WAY to young to be released without an adult!




Yes, I would say worth a shot but IME, the rules are the rules and if they bend it for one person, they would have to do it for others.
The problem with people (in general and not speaking of yourself or even this poster) is that they think they are entitled to do whatever they want and that others should bend the rules for them. Life doesn't work that way. That is why there are other options in this situation.



We get that you have older kids, but seriously, back off a little. We get the "rules" but rules ARE made to be bent a little....or they would be called "laws". Many of your posts come off as just so condescending.




My kids weren't always older you know lol. I have always been a working mom and had the same problems as everyone else did with care for my child if my dh and I were both working.

No, rules are NOT made to be bent and that is the problem with this society. Everyone thinks they can be for their situation. There is a reason why they have things like after-care so you CAN have a back-up as they can not accomodate every child.

Posted 9/8/15 4:22 PM
 

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Posted by ohbaby08

Posted by NervousNell

I have a general question in regards to this.
DD is in K and of course, not allowed off the bus without an adult (they said in their letters that they recently expanded that to 1st grade as well).

However, does your bus driver actually look to see what parent belongs to which children?

Because the few times I've gone to get her off the bus this past week (DH normally goes to the bus stop unless I'm working from home) there are several parents at the stop and some have more than one kid, and the kids all just get off and the driver never seems to really take note of who belongs to who.

So I could easily see a kid getting off and just getting in the mix of all the parents/kids/confusion and not really having a parent there.

I don't see him formally matching up each kid that gets off to a parent.

Just curious how other bus driver's do this and police this rule.







In our district, the kindergarteners sit in the first rows of the bus, so they get off first at the stop and it is easier for the bus driver to see who they are going to.



Our district is the same way. The bus driver knows which child goes with which adult. I guess we are spoiled, he's great! K- is in the front, 1st and 2nd behind. He always makes sure a parent or sitter is there.

Posted 9/8/15 4:32 PM
 

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Re: Bus drivers, bus stops, and ... I have no idea how to title this. Just come in and offer insight. Thanks.

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by BargainMama

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by MrsH

You might be able to write a letter to your son's school and transportation and inform them that you do not give permission for your son to be released unless there is a designated adult waiting for him at the stop. I seem to remember someone doing that and having it upheld in the district I work in. It's worth a shot. Second grade is WAY to young to be released without an adult!




Yes, I would say worth a shot but IME, the rules are the rules and if they bend it for one person, they would have to do it for others.
The problem with people (in general and not speaking of yourself or even this poster) is that they think they are entitled to do whatever they want and that others should bend the rules for them. Life doesn't work that way. That is why there are other options in this situation.



We get that you have older kids, but seriously, back off a little. We get the "rules" but rules ARE made to be bent a little....or they would be called "laws". Many of your posts come off as just so condescending.




My kids weren't always older you know lol. I have always been a working mom and had the same problems as everyone else did with care for my child if my dh and I were both working.

No, rules are NOT made to be bent and that is the problem with this society. Everyone thinks they can be for their situation. There is a reason why they have things like after-care so you CAN have a back-up as they can not accomodate every child.



I get what you mean but I think the general (and larger) question is .. What happens if you're typically there every day and one day something happens and you're not? Then what? Let's say some sort of emergency. Do they just drop off and send the kid on his or her way? Even if a first or second grader has been spoken to about what to do .. It just sounds scary I suppose. I wonder if anyone has been in that scenario and what happened. Scary to think of.

Either way, I have my solution which isn't ideal but it'll have to do!

Posted 9/8/15 5:00 PM
 

BargainMama
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Re: Bus drivers, bus stops, and ... I have no idea how to title this. Just come in and offer insight. Thanks.

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by BargainMama

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by MrsH

You might be able to write a letter to your son's school and transportation and inform them that you do not give permission for your son to be released unless there is a designated adult waiting for him at the stop. I seem to remember someone doing that and having it upheld in the district I work in. It's worth a shot. Second grade is WAY to young to be released without an adult!




Yes, I would say worth a shot but IME, the rules are the rules and if they bend it for one person, they would have to do it for others.
The problem with people (in general and not speaking of yourself or even this poster) is that they think they are entitled to do whatever they want and that others should bend the rules for them. Life doesn't work that way. That is why there are other options in this situation.



We get that you have older kids, but seriously, back off a little. We get the "rules" but rules ARE made to be bent a little....or they would be called "laws". Many of your posts come off as just so condescending.




My kids weren't always older you know lol. I have always been a working mom and had the same problems as everyone else did with care for my child if my dh and I were both working.

No, rules are NOT made to be bent and that is the problem with this society. Everyone thinks they can be for their situation. There is a reason why they have things like after-care so you CAN have a back-up as they can not accomodate every child.



Aftercare doesn't solve the solution for when a parent or caregiver isn't at the bus stop for an unforeseen reason. I think you are just missing the point. I digress though.

Posted 9/8/15 5:28 PM
 

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You said that you don't really have neighbors so am I assuming that nobody gets off the stop with him? If he is the only kid at the stop I would think the bus driver would stay or bring him back to school if he didn't see the babysitter present, since it would be out of the ordinary. I'd call the transportation department and get clarification.

And if I assumed wrong and there's another kid who gets off the bus at the same time, even if they don't know eachother, I'd see if you could give a quick chat with the parent or their babysitter in case of emergency. I'm new to my neighborhood so I don't know everyone, but I would totally be ok as someone's back up in case of emergency.

And my third back up would be to explain to my DS what to do. I would walk, or even let him walk himself and you wait outside for him, from the stop to your home, then have him let himself into the house, and immediately call your cell phone. It's obviously last resort, and like you I don't think 7 is old enough to do it on a regular basis, but I do believe emergencies happen, and as long as we explain what to do in case of emergency I think he would be ok. But I'd do test runs, just like I do fire drills with my kids, since God forbid hopefully it doesn't happen, but it can, and it's better to be prepared.

Goodluck! I hope you find a good solution for everyone!

Posted 9/8/15 5:33 PM
 

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Posted by EatingMyVeggies

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by BargainMama

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by MrsH

You might be able to write a letter to your son's school and transportation and inform them that you do not give permission for your son to be released unless there is a designated adult waiting for him at the stop. I seem to remember someone doing that and having it upheld in the district I work in. It's worth a shot. Second grade is WAY to young to be released without an adult!




Yes, I would say worth a shot but IME, the rules are the rules and if they bend it for one person, they would have to do it for others.
The problem with people (in general and not speaking of yourself or even this poster) is that they think they are entitled to do whatever they want and that others should bend the rules for them. Life doesn't work that way. That is why there are other options in this situation.



We get that you have older kids, but seriously, back off a little. We get the "rules" but rules ARE made to be bent a little....or they would be called "laws". Many of your posts come off as just so condescending.




My kids weren't always older you know lol. I have always been a working mom and had the same problems as everyone else did with care for my child if my dh and I were both working.

No, rules are NOT made to be bent and that is the problem with this society. Everyone thinks they can be for their situation. There is a reason why they have things like after-care so you CAN have a back-up as they can not accomodate every child.



I get what you mean but I think the general (and larger) question is .. What happens if you're typically there every day and one day something happens and you're not? Then what? Let's say some sort of emergency. Do they just drop off and send the kid on his or her way? Even if a first or second grader has been spoken to about what to do .. It just sounds scary I suppose. I wonder if anyone has been in that scenario and what happened. Scary to think of.

Either way, I have my solution which isn't ideal but it'll have to do!




Unfortunately, yes, at least in my district. Only kindergarteners need to have someone waiting for them.
I was just thinking if you knew in advance. Do you think this scenario would happen that last minute that your child would already be on the bus?

Posted 9/8/15 6:58 PM
 

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Posted by mommy2B3

You said that you don't really have neighbors so am I assuming that nobody gets off the stop with him? If he is the only kid at the stop I would think the bus driver would stay or bring him back to school if he didn't see the babysitter present, since it would be out of the ordinary. I'd call the transportation department and get clarification.

And if I assumed wrong and there's another kid who gets off the bus at the same time, even if they don't know eachother, I'd see if you could give a quick chat with the parent or their babysitter in case of emergency. I'm new to my neighborhood so I don't know everyone, but I would totally be ok as someone's back up in case of emergency.

And my third back up would be to explain to my DS what to do. I would walk, or even let him walk himself and you wait outside for him, from the stop to your home, then have him let himself into the house, and immediately call your cell phone. It's obviously last resort, and like you I don't think 7 is old enough to do it on a regular basis, but I do believe emergencies happen, and as long as we explain what to do in case of emergency I think he would be ok. But I'd do test runs, just like I do fire drills with my kids, since God forbid hopefully it doesn't happen, but it can, and it's better to be prepared.

Goodluck! I hope you find a good solution for everyone!



No one gets on or off at the stop. I live in a heavily foot traffic area above a business. I have some residential neighbors but we all work long or odd hours. You can imagine my feelings of being uneasy because it's not like a kid who can run up a driveway and unlock (and then lock) a front door in a neighborhood setting, you know what I mean? Then I would be more inclined in the event of an emergency. But it's like a downtown area..

While I live in a very safe area, I wouldn't let my kid(s) ever look like they are alone and going into my apt alone. Not at this age at least.

Hope that clears things up :)

Posted 9/8/15 7:00 PM
 

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Posted by BargainMama

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by BargainMama

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by MrsH

You might be able to write a letter to your son's school and transportation and inform them that you do not give permission for your son to be released unless there is a designated adult waiting for him at the stop. I seem to remember someone doing that and having it upheld in the district I work in. It's worth a shot. Second grade is WAY to young to be released without an adult!




Yes, I would say worth a shot but IME, the rules are the rules and if they bend it for one person, they would have to do it for others.
The problem with people (in general and not speaking of yourself or even this poster) is that they think they are entitled to do whatever they want and that others should bend the rules for them. Life doesn't work that way. That is why there are other options in this situation.



We get that you have older kids, but seriously, back off a little. We get the "rules" but rules ARE made to be bent a little....or they would be called "laws". Many of your posts come off as just so condescending.




My kids weren't always older you know lol. I have always been a working mom and had the same problems as everyone else did with care for my child if my dh and I were both working.

No, rules are NOT made to be bent and that is the problem with this society. Everyone thinks they can be for their situation. There is a reason why they have things like after-care so you CAN have a back-up as they can not accomodate every child.



Aftercare doesn't solve the solution for when a parent or caregiver isn't at the bus stop for an unforeseen reason. I think you are just missing the point. I digress though.




I can see that if it is THAT last minute but how often would that actually happen? If you are able to call before the child is on the bus (I have called just as they were getting on the bus and still made it on time) then you would be ok. If this was a situation that would be that often, then I can see the problem.

Posted 9/8/15 7:00 PM
 

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Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by BargainMama

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by BargainMama

Posted by afternoondelight828

Posted by MrsH

You might be able to write a letter to your son's school and transportation and inform them that you do not give permission for your son to be released unless there is a designated adult waiting for him at the stop. I seem to remember someone doing that and having it upheld in the district I work in. It's worth a shot. Second grade is WAY to young to be released without an adult!




Yes, I would say worth a shot but IME, the rules are the rules and if they bend it for one person, they would have to do it for others.
The problem with people (in general and not speaking of yourself or even this poster) is that they think they are entitled to do whatever they want and that others should bend the rules for them. Life doesn't work that way. That is why there are other options in this situation.



We get that you have older kids, but seriously, back off a little. We get the "rules" but rules ARE made to be bent a little....or they would be called "laws". Many of your posts come off as just so condescending.




My kids weren't always older you know lol. I have always been a working mom and had the same problems as everyone else did with care for my child if my dh and I were both working.

No, rules are NOT made to be bent and that is the problem with this society. Everyone thinks they can be for their situation. There is a reason why they have things like after-care so you CAN have a back-up as they can not accomodate every child.



Aftercare doesn't solve the solution for when a parent or caregiver isn't at the bus stop for an unforeseen reason. I think you are just missing the point. I digress though.




I can see that if it is THAT last minute but how often would that actually happen? If you are able to call before the child is on the bus (I have called just as they were getting on the bus and still made it on time) then you would be ok. If this was a situation that would be that often, then I can see the problem.



I'm sure it doesn't happen often, which is why it's called an unforeseen incident when someone wouldn't be there. A parent or caregiver could be stuck somewhere, in an accident, etc. etc. etc. If it's a rare incident that no one is there at the stop and the driver STILL lets that young kid off, that's an issue. I'm sorry you don't see it that way. It's a shame that the school doesn't care, nor the drivers. None of these things make it OKAY though and help in the situation. I'm done going back and forth with you though because I don't think you are getting it. Chat Icon

Posted 9/8/15 8:59 PM
 

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Re: Bus drivers, bus stops, and ... I have no idea how to title this. Just come in and offer insight. Thanks.

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

Posted by mommy2B3

You said that you don't really have neighbors so am I assuming that nobody gets off the stop with him? If he is the only kid at the stop I would think the bus driver would stay or bring him back to school if he didn't see the babysitter present, since it would be out of the ordinary. I'd call the transportation department and get clarification.

And if I assumed wrong and there's another kid who gets off the bus at the same time, even if they don't know eachother, I'd see if you could give a quick chat with the parent or their babysitter in case of emergency. I'm new to my neighborhood so I don't know everyone, but I would totally be ok as someone's back up in case of emergency.

And my third back up would be to explain to my DS what to do. I would walk, or even let him walk himself and you wait outside for him, from the stop to your home, then have him let himself into the house, and immediately call your cell phone. It's obviously last resort, and like you I don't think 7 is old enough to do it on a regular basis, but I do believe emergencies happen, and as long as we explain what to do in case of emergency I think he would be ok. But I'd do test runs, just like I do fire drills with my kids, since God forbid hopefully it doesn't happen, but it can, and it's better to be prepared.

Goodluck! I hope you find a good solution for everyone!



No one gets on or off at the stop. I live in a heavily foot traffic area above a business. I have some residential neighbors but we all work long or odd hours. You can imagine my feelings of being uneasy because it's not like a kid who can run up a driveway and unlock (and then lock) a front door in a neighborhood setting, you know what I mean? Then I would be more inclined in the event of an emergency. But it's like a downtown area..

While I live in a very safe area, I wouldn't let my kid(s) ever look like they are alone and going into my apt alone. Not at this age at least.

Hope that clears things up :)



I would not be okay with that either. At all. Not even a little bit. I'm glad your sitter will be able to pick your child up at school though!

Posted 9/8/15 9:01 PM
 

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Re: Bus drivers, bus stops, and ... I have no idea how to title this. Just come in and offer insight. Thanks.

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Can your child walk home by themselves? How far is the bus stop?



I think the concern is that a. her child is going into 2nd grade, so is probably 6 or 7, and b. that her babysitter won't be there due to an unforeseen circumstance and the child will be left outside or worse coming from the bus stop to the house.


My child was let off a bus and wasn't even supposed to be on that bus. He was wandering around the neighborhood, had no idea what to do, luckily a school aide had been driving by and saw him and called the school, who called me! Meanwhile I was AT the school parked in front to pick him up when I got a call that he was seen. The school failed him that day. He was supposed to stay after like he did every Tuesday. They are lucky he didn't get ran over. He also has special needs, so his thought process is much different than a typical kid. Bus drivers don't usually care to make sure someone is there to get the child.




That is how it is with every school though. This is not unusual.
I think then after-care should be an option for days like that.





No it's not. Not in my district. Bus driver will circle around once more then if still no parent will bring the child back to the school. We are a K-2 building.
And aftercare would not be the answer for an unforeseen circumstance. That makes no sense

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Posted 9/8/15 10:30 PM
 

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Posted by MrsH

You might be able to write a letter to your son's school and transportation and inform them that you do not give permission for your son to be released unless there is a designated adult waiting for him at the stop. I seem to remember someone doing that and having it upheld in the district I work in. It's worth a shot. Second grade is WAY to young to be released without an adult!




Yes, I would say worth a shot but IME, the rules are the rules and if they bend it for one person, they would have to do it for others.
The problem with people (in general and not speaking of yourself or even this poster) is that they think they are entitled to do whatever they want and that others should bend the rules for them. Life doesn't work that way. That is why there are other options in this situation.



We get that you have older kids, but seriously, back off a little. We get the "rules" but rules ARE made to be bent a little....or they would be called "laws". Many of your posts come off as just so condescending.




My kids weren't always older you know lol. I have always been a working mom and had the same problems as everyone else did with care for my child if my dh and I were both working.

No, rules are NOT made to be bent and that is the problem with this society. Everyone thinks they can be for their situation. There is a reason why they have things like after-care so you CAN have a back-up as they can not accomodate every child.



Aftercare doesn't solve the solution for when a parent or caregiver isn't at the bus stop for an unforeseen reason. I think you are just missing the point. I digress though.




I can see that if it is THAT last minute but how often would that actually happen? If you are able to call before the child is on the bus (I have called just as they were getting on the bus and still made it on time) then you would be ok. If this was a situation that would be that often, then I can see the problem.



I'm sure it doesn't happen often, which is why it's called an unforeseen incident when someone wouldn't be there. A parent or caregiver could be stuck somewhere, in an accident, etc. etc. etc. If it's a rare incident that no one is there at the stop and the driver STILL lets that young kid off, that's an issue. I'm sorry you don't see it that way. It's a shame that the school doesn't care, nor the drivers. None of these things make it OKAY though and help in the situation. I'm done going back and forth with you though because I don't think you are getting it. Chat Icon




Oh I get it, I really do but again, there are rules and I wouldn't ask to bend them for my child either. You need to always have a plan B.

Posted 9/9/15 10:23 AM
 

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Re: Bus drivers, bus stops, and ... I have no idea how to title this. Just come in and offer insight. Thanks.

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Posted by BargainMama

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Posted by MrsH

You might be able to write a letter to your son's school and transportation and inform them that you do not give permission for your son to be released unless there is a designated adult waiting for him at the stop. I seem to remember someone doing that and having it upheld in the district I work in. It's worth a shot. Second grade is WAY to young to be released without an adult!




Yes, I would say worth a shot but IME, the rules are the rules and if they bend it for one person, they would have to do it for others.
The problem with people (in general and not speaking of yourself or even this poster) is that they think they are entitled to do whatever they want and that others should bend the rules for them. Life doesn't work that way. That is why there are other options in this situation.



We get that you have older kids, but seriously, back off a little. We get the "rules" but rules ARE made to be bent a little....or they would be called "laws". Many of your posts come off as just so condescending.




My kids weren't always older you know lol. I have always been a working mom and had the same problems as everyone else did with care for my child if my dh and I were both working.

No, rules are NOT made to be bent and that is the problem with this society. Everyone thinks they can be for their situation. There is a reason why they have things like after-care so you CAN have a back-up as they can not accomodate every child.



Aftercare doesn't solve the solution for when a parent or caregiver isn't at the bus stop for an unforeseen reason. I think you are just missing the point. I digress though.




I can see that if it is THAT last minute but how often would that actually happen? If you are able to call before the child is on the bus (I have called just as they were getting on the bus and still made it on time) then you would be ok. If this was a situation that would be that often, then I can see the problem.



I'm sure it doesn't happen often, which is why it's called an unforeseen incident when someone wouldn't be there. A parent or caregiver could be stuck somewhere, in an accident, etc. etc. etc. If it's a rare incident that no one is there at the stop and the driver STILL lets that young kid off, that's an issue. I'm sorry you don't see it that way. It's a shame that the school doesn't care, nor the drivers. None of these things make it OKAY though and help in the situation. I'm done going back and forth with you though because I don't think you are getting it. Chat Icon




Oh I get it, I really do but again, there are rules and I wouldn't ask to bend them for my child either. You need to always have a plan B.



Oy vey. Chat Icon

Posted 9/9/15 10:51 AM
 
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