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mrswask
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
Posted by jambalady
I had a c-section and I'm not bothered by people saying it's not natural.
It was far from it. it was completely surreal if you ask me.
I came in. They put in my spinal, performed my c-section, and literally 37 minutes later, handed me my baby.
Far from natural.
Same situation for me - very surreal. Yes, referring to it as not natural by medical terms doesn't bother me, what annoys me is people saying I didn't have my baby the "real" way or I didn't suffer through labor "like a cavewoman."
You still grew that child inside of you and THAT's what's a miracle and natural
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Posted 6/22/10 7:01 PM |
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
Posted by Smileyd17
See I look at "natural" as in vaginal birth, NO drugs.
What I did with my 1st
Me too. Did it with both. Sorry but IMO while it may be necessary at time there is nothing natural about a C-section.
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Posted 6/22/10 7:05 PM |
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julz33
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
Posted by nrthshgrl
By virture of the definition of natural, I'd say it makes perfect sense.
It's not natural to cut someone open to deliver a baby. It may be more of the norm now but no...I wouldn't consider it natural either.
I know people that don't consider ANY intervention by someone else natural for delivering a baby - that means episiotomies too.
In the end, delivering a healthy baby supercedes all so it doesn't make a difference, does it?
ITA with this! (and I had a c-section myself, after 44 hours of hard labor, 4 hours of pushing a sunnyside up 9lbs baby.. so not by choice)
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Posted 6/22/10 7:06 PM |
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Janice
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
2 scheduled csections here.
nothing natural about it.
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Posted 6/22/10 8:10 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
We have had this debate before. TO ME, natural is no pain meds / vaginal
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Posted 6/22/10 8:11 PM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
Posted by architectnycity
In a social setting, I think some people say natural because they don't want to say vaginal. definitely
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Posted 6/22/10 8:12 PM |
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johnsae
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
I refer to natural as vaginally as I subtly point downwards to give the impression I'm referring to the vag.
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Posted 6/22/10 8:26 PM |
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carlowlou
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
Posted by pinkandblue
Posted by architectnycity
In a social setting, I think some people say natural because they don't want to say vaginal. definitely
ITA I had a c section and it most certainly was not natural and I fully admit that and have no problem with anyone else defining it that way.
Message edited 6/22/2010 8:30:08 PM.
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Posted 6/22/10 8:29 PM |
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A3CM
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
to me "natural" is how you perceive giving birth to YOU is.
i had 2 scheduled C sections and to me that was "natural" it is how i always wanted to give birth. i never wanted to push go into labor and what not.. to me that is not "natural"
most of you will disagree, but thats your opinion and this is mine.. and hope we can all agree to disagree
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Posted 6/22/10 8:31 PM |
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conigs25
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
personally i dont give 2 flying shiits what people think. My son and i almost died so i was TOTALLY FINE w/ being ripped open to give birth
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Posted 6/22/10 8:34 PM |
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Lara&Aidansmommy
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
All I know is that my water broke, I had major contractions and pushed my brains out..Not my fault dd was to big to come out on her own
I had a c section and even though it may not be considered "natural" by some IT IS STILL MAJOR SURGERY and an accomplishment when all is said and done
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Posted 6/22/10 8:47 PM |
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babymakes3
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
Posted by nrthshgrl
By virture of the definition of natural, I'd say it makes perfect sense.
It's not natural to cut someone open to deliver a baby. It may be more of the norm now but no...I wouldn't consider it natural either.
I know people that don't consider ANY intervention by someone else natural for delivering a baby - that means episiotomies too.
In the end, delivering a healthy baby supercedes all so it doesn't make a difference, does it?
ITA
I'm lost as why someone would take offense because their c-section wasn't called "natural".
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Posted 6/22/10 9:10 PM |
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maybesoon
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
I always say natural because I hate saying vaginal! I have had 2 c sections
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Posted 6/22/10 9:20 PM |
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dawnygirl25
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
Posted by CathyB
I thought natural was no drugs, and therefore has to be vaginal.
Both of mine were v-births but I had drugs, so I don't consider them natural.
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Posted 6/22/10 9:25 PM |
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BaroqueMama
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
Posted by babymakes3
Posted by nrthshgrl
By virture of the definition of natural, I'd say it makes perfect sense.
It's not natural to cut someone open to deliver a baby. It may be more of the norm now but no...I wouldn't consider it natural either.
I know people that don't consider ANY intervention by someone else natural for delivering a baby - that means episiotomies too.
In the end, delivering a healthy baby supercedes all so it doesn't make a difference, does it?
ITA
I'm lost as why someone would take offense because their c-section wasn't called "natural".
I'm with you ladies, although I guess everyone is entitled to feel the way they feel
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Posted 6/22/10 9:32 PM |
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Disneygirl
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
Just to point out I'm an OB nurse and I've never seen the term "natural" to describe someone's delivery. We use SVD, (spontaneous vaginal delivery) AVD, (assisted vaginal delivery as in vacum or forceps) or c-section. I can only conclude some goober med student must have charted that. We do throw around the term natural when referring to patients who do not want any pain medication but it's never documented in a chart.
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Posted 6/22/10 9:52 PM |
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MAC222
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
It is natural to deliver a baby through your vagina, and it is surgery when you have a c-section. Unnatural, would be if they pulled it through your ear. I don't think anyone should be judged on how their baby enters the world?
Healthy baby, Healthy mommy, and the rest......who really cares???
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Posted 6/22/10 9:56 PM |
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Goobster
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
I had a csection. I dont care what anyone calls it. Doesnt bother me one way or another how my DD came out.
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Posted 6/22/10 10:02 PM |
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stickydust
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
While it does not bother me that one would not refer to c-sections as "natural" (I was thanking my lucky stars when they declared a c-section with DD) I can understand where OP is coming from.
I think perhaps it is the word itself - if something is not "natural" then, by definition, it is "unnatural" and I think the term "unnatural" has a bad connotation, almost like evil or something. I don't know - that is my guess as to why some may be offended by it.
I do think it is strange that in a medical context they would refer to any birth as "natural" as it seems like the correct terminology would be vaginal or unmedicated vaginal - "natural" seems like layman's term.
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Posted 6/22/10 10:25 PM |
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
Posted by stickydust
I can understand where OP is coming from.
I think perhaps it is the word itself - if something is not "natural" then, by definition, it is "unnatural" and I think the term "unnatural" has a bad connotation, almost like evil or something. I don't know - that is my guess as to why some may be offended by it.
This is my thought as well....
IMO (and what I have read and heard from docs ) "Natural" is vaginal delivery with NO MEDS, my sister had 2. C/S and delivery with pain meds is NOT "natural" I had an elective C/S and don't really care (never did) if people call it "natural" or not....
Honestly I feel like some people stress over silly things too much , especially in The US (natural birth/unnatural birth , BF/FF, SAHM/WM......) who cares ? as long as you and your child (ren) are happy and healthy.
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Posted 6/23/10 6:09 AM |
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maybebaby
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
People get so riled up over this topic! Who cares? Babies come out of moms one way or another. The end result is all the same. I guess when its on paper, "natural" is used because it implies no real intervention was needed to get baby out...through the birth canal as opposed to surgery.
But no one would ever say "oh you had an unnatural birth". A c section is just a different way of a baby being born....don't know why this irritates people.
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Posted 6/23/10 7:19 AM |
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adeline27
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
Posted by pnbplus1
ETA: Ok, i think this went in a whole other direction than what I was thinking when I posted. It wasn't meant to be any kind of debate about one being better, more natural, nor about anyone defending how they gave birth and definitely not about implying that a c-section is natural. It was only me venting about the use of the word natural in a report instead of the word vaginal and my perception that natural = good and thus implies that a c-section is somehow bad/inferior. Medical terminology is quite archaic at times.
I know what you mean...hopefully they will change their "medical terminology" for reports. They should just get rid of the word natural and just use vaginal or ceaserean as method of birth. I've had both and if you are given like me so many meds to induce labor and relieve labor pains and something used to break your water should that really be labeled as "natural"?
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Posted 6/23/10 7:25 AM |
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Re: c-section viewed as not natural?
I was thinking about this a lot. I don't see a c-section and a vaginal birth as being opposites, like natural and unnatural. They are just different.
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Posted 6/23/10 8:44 AM |
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