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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
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The speech itself was great, but I'm not sure if you ladies heard that the only way she was giving Diane Sawyer that first interview was if they(ESPN/ABC) gave her the Arthur Ashe for courage award.
It was a package deal! That annoys me a bit., but doesn't surprise me.
I heard that on a tabloid news show, but didn't know whether to believe it. If true, how horrible--to ask for/negotiate for the award! It cheapens the whole award and the whole selection---and it answers the question someone posed above about Kris.
If it's true, I am disgusted---with her, ABC, the award, the whole thing. How tacky and self-serving! Who thinks of doing these kind of things?
Surprised there are not more people who feel like we do.
I heard it on Sports Radio (Wfan Boomer and Carton).
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
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Sorry, but this award is bogus,
Google Lauren Hill, the 19 year basketball player who when stricken with cancer, managed to raise over a million dollars for cancer research.
THAT is what the Arthur Ashe courage award should be about.
All the best to Ms. Jenner, but the award was nothing more than pandering to a trendy topic, JMO,
ITA, a lot of the outrage I hear in the news/radio is towards that. But I also don't have slot of ignorant people on FB if any.
As far as the speech, Bruce was a great motivational speaker that's what he did, so it doesn't surprise me that Caitlynn killed it in her speech.
with all due respect, just because caitlyn isn't a hero in your eyes, doesn't mean she isn't to the thousands of people who struggle with this daily. who contemplate suicide, who are isolated, alienated, etc.
there are many forms of courage. this happene to be one of them. one that is very rarely addressed on such a huge public forum.
When I first heard Lauren Hills story on ESPN I definitely was in favor of her receiving it. I know a lot of people are experiencing the same thing Caitlin Jenner (kids and teens), but I still believe that the award was part of the negotiations for the Diane Sawyer interview. That's what bothers me if it's true.
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
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When I first heard Lauren Hills story on ESPN I definitely was in favor of her receiving it. I know a lot of people are experiencing the same thing Caitlin Jenner (kids and teens), but I still believe that the award was part of the negotiations for the Diane Sawyer interview. That's what bothers me if it's true.
ITA. She is totally a hero and a role model. But once you ASK for an award like that, and bargain and trade to get it--and then get all teary that they gave it to you---and think that no one will find out or care if they do.... you lose credibility.
If she wanted to do the special to educate, enlighten, and save people like she said she did...then just do it. Stop wrangling for honors and praise. They would have come anyway--in some form--without the creepy arm twisting.
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
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Posted by TyReseGreen
When I first heard Lauren Hills story on ESPN I definitely was in favor of her receiving it. I know a lot of people are experiencing the same thing Caitlin Jenner (kids and teens), but I still believe that the award was part of the negotiations for the Diane Sawyer interview. That's what bothers me if it's true.
ITA. She is totally a hero and a role model. But once you ASK for an award like that, and bargain and trade to get it--and then get all teary that they gave it to you---and think that no one will find out or care if they do.... you lose credibility.
If she wanted to do the special to educate, enlighten, and save people like she said she did...then just do it. Stop wrangling for honors and praise. They would have come anyway--in some form--without the creepy arm twisting.
 I was not aware of this.
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
Posted by Dani
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Sorry, but this award is bogus,
Google Lauren Hill, the 19 year basketball player who when stricken with cancer, managed to raise over a million dollars for cancer research.
THAT is what the Arthur Ashe courage award should be about.
All the best to Ms. Jenner, but the award was nothing more than pandering to a trendy topic, JMO,
ITA, a lot of the outrage I hear in the news/radio is towards that. But I also don't have slot of ignorant people on FB if any.
As far as the speech, Bruce was a great motivational speaker that's what he did, so it doesn't surprise me that Caitlynn killed it in her speech.
with all due respect, just because caitlyn isn't a hero in your eyes, doesn't mean she isn't to the thousands of people who struggle with this daily. who contemplate suicide, who are isolated, alienated, etc.
there are many forms of courage. this happene to be one of them. one that is very rarely addressed on such a huge public forum.
With all due respect, wth are you talking about I never said anything about her not being a hero. It's the whole politics about it that got people upset and questioning her getting the award. Especially when there was this other athlete that maybe deserved it.
All I was saying is that I havent heard outrage over ignorance or nasty comment but the real issue on wether she deserved since it may have been part of a negotiation.
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
Posted by seaside
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The speech itself was great, but I'm not sure if you ladies heard that the only way she was giving Diane Sawyer that first interview was if they(ESPN/ABC) gave her the Arthur Ashe for courage award.
It was a package deal! That annoys me a bit., but doesn't surprise me.
I heard that on a tabloid news show, but didn't know whether to believe it.
I think that's where everyone heard it.
I have not seen one credible source to confirm this.
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
Posted by Dani
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Sorry, but this award is bogus,
Google Lauren Hill, the 19 year basketball player who when stricken with cancer, managed to raise over a million dollars for cancer research.
THAT is what the Arthur Ashe courage award should be about.
All the best to Ms. Jenner, but the award was nothing more than pandering to a trendy topic, JMO,
ITA, a lot of the outrage I hear in the news/radio is towards that. But I also don't have slot of ignorant people on FB if any.
As far as the speech, Bruce was a great motivational speaker that's what he did, so it doesn't surprise me that Caitlynn killed it in her speech.
with all due respect, just because caitlyn isn't a hero in your eyes, doesn't mean she isn't to the thousands of people who struggle with this daily. who contemplate suicide, who are isolated, alienated, etc.
there are many forms of courage. this happene to be one of them. one that is very rarely addressed on such a huge public forum.
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
Posted by Sash
Posted by Dani
Posted by Sash
Posted by AAD
Sorry, but this award is bogus,
Google Lauren Hill, the 19 year basketball player who when stricken with cancer, managed to raise over a million dollars for cancer research.
THAT is what the Arthur Ashe courage award should be about.
All the best to Ms. Jenner, but the award was nothing more than pandering to a trendy topic, JMO,
ITA, a lot of the outrage I hear in the news/radio is towards that. But I also don't have slot of ignorant people on FB if any.
As far as the speech, Bruce was a great motivational speaker that's what he did, so it doesn't surprise me that Caitlynn killed it in her speech.
with all due respect, just because caitlyn isn't a hero in your eyes, doesn't mean she isn't to the thousands of people who struggle with this daily. who contemplate suicide, who are isolated, alienated, etc.
there are many forms of courage. this happene to be one of them. one that is very rarely addressed on such a huge public forum.
With all due respect, wth are you talking about I never said anything about her not being a hero. It's the whole politics about it that got people upset and questioning her getting the award. Especially when there was this other athlete that maybe deserved it.
All I was saying is that I havent heard outrage over ignorance or nasty comment but the real issue on wether she deserved since it may have been part of a negotiation.
i was being sincere when i used the phrase 'with all due respect.' no need for 'wth are you talking about' 
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
Posted by Dani
Posted by Sash
Posted by Dani
Posted by Sash
Posted by AAD
Sorry, but this award is bogus,
Google Lauren Hill, the 19 year basketball player who when stricken with cancer, managed to raise over a million dollars for cancer research.
THAT is what the Arthur Ashe courage award should be about.
All the best to Ms. Jenner, but the award was nothing more than pandering to a trendy topic, JMO,
ITA, a lot of the outrage I hear in the news/radio is towards that. But I also don't have slot of ignorant people on FB if any.
As far as the speech, Bruce was a great motivational speaker that's what he did, so it doesn't surprise me that Caitlynn killed it in her speech.
with all due respect, just because caitlyn isn't a hero in your eyes, doesn't mean she isn't to the thousands of people who struggle with this daily. who contemplate suicide, who are isolated, alienated, etc.
there are many forms of courage. this happene to be one of them. one that is very rarely addressed on such a huge public forum.
With all due respect, wth are you talking about I never said anything about her not being a hero. It's the whole politics about it that got people upset and questioning her getting the award. Especially when there was this other athlete that maybe deserved it.
All I was saying is that I havent heard outrage over ignorance or nasty comment but the real issue on wether she deserved since it may have been part of a negotiation.
i was being sincere when i used the phrase 'with all due respect.' no need for 'wth are you talking about'
Because you are making a big and inaccurate assumption about me. The "just because you don't think she's a hero" comment didn't translate as sincere, sorry. And it's totally false and nothing in my post hinted that I felt that way.
It's like when someone says "Not to be rude" but follows it with a rude comment.
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
Posted by Sash
Posted by Dani
Posted by Sash
Posted by Dani
Posted by Sash
Posted by AAD
Sorry, but this award is bogus,
Google Lauren Hill, the 19 year basketball player who when stricken with cancer, managed to raise over a million dollars for cancer research.
THAT is what the Arthur Ashe courage award should be about.
All the best to Ms. Jenner, but the award was nothing more than pandering to a trendy topic, JMO,
ITA, a lot of the outrage I hear in the news/radio is towards that. But I also don't have slot of ignorant people on FB if any.
As far as the speech, Bruce was a great motivational speaker that's what he did, so it doesn't surprise me that Caitlynn killed it in her speech.
with all due respect, just because caitlyn isn't a hero in your eyes, doesn't mean she isn't to the thousands of people who struggle with this daily. who contemplate suicide, who are isolated, alienated, etc.
there are many forms of courage. this happene to be one of them. one that is very rarely addressed on such a huge public forum.
With all due respect, wth are you talking about I never said anything about her not being a hero. It's the whole politics about it that got people upset and questioning her getting the award. Especially when there was this other athlete that maybe deserved it.
All I was saying is that I havent heard outrage over ignorance or nasty comment but the real issue on wether she deserved since it may have been part of a negotiation.
i was being sincere when i used the phrase 'with all due respect.' no need for 'wth are you talking about'
Because you are making a big and inaccurate assumption about me. The "just because you don't think she's a hero" comment didn't translate as sincere, sorry. And it's totally false and nothing in my post hinted that I felt that way.
It's like when someone says "Not to be rude" but follows it with a rude comment.
i was repsonding to both you and the person you quoted. she said it was a bogus award and that it was pandering to a trendy topic, and you agreed. i guess we both misunderstood. sorry on my part 
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
Posted by MsSissy
Posted by seaside
Posted by TyReseGreen
The speech itself was great, but I'm not sure if you ladies heard that the only way she was giving Diane Sawyer that first interview was if they(ESPN/ABC) gave her the Arthur Ashe for courage award.
It was a package deal! That annoys me a bit., but doesn't surprise me.
I heard that on a tabloid news show, but didn't know whether to believe it.
I think that's where everyone heard it.
I have not seen one credible source to confirm this.
Yeah, it started with the UK Daily Mirror first and I think people are just re-reporting tabloid stories.
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
I have been thinking about this.
My DH does not think she is hero.
We disagree.
All we have is rumor about the Diane Sawyer/Bargain. A rumor is not fact.
Now. Lets say she did bargain that way.
I say good for her.
This is THE bottom line for me: That speech she gave WILL save 1 kid from committing suicide.
It will save 1 kid from running away.
It will save 1 kid.
It will save at least 1 adult.
In my eyes this woman is a hero. Yes she has the means and "can take it" as she said. BUT, to get in front of the world as a manly man and turn into a woman, that F'ing courageous.
And to have that courage KNOWING what she was doing WOULD save 1 kid from killing themselves, well that's enough for me.
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
Posted by Dani
Posted by Sash
Posted by Dani
Posted by Sash
Posted by Dani
Posted by Sash
Posted by AAD
Sorry, but this award is bogus,
Google Lauren Hill, the 19 year basketball player who when stricken with cancer, managed to raise over a million dollars for cancer research.
THAT is what the Arthur Ashe courage award should be about.
All the best to Ms. Jenner, but the award was nothing more than pandering to a trendy topic, JMO,
ITA, a lot of the outrage I hear in the news/radio is towards that. But I also don't have slot of ignorant people on FB if any.
As far as the speech, Bruce was a great motivational speaker that's what he did, so it doesn't surprise me that Caitlynn killed it in her speech.
with all due respect, just because caitlyn isn't a hero in your eyes, doesn't mean she isn't to the thousands of people who struggle with this daily. who contemplate suicide, who are isolated, alienated, etc.
there are many forms of courage. this happene to be one of them. one that is very rarely addressed on such a huge public forum.
With all due respect, wth are you talking about I never said anything about her not being a hero. It's the whole politics about it that got people upset and questioning her getting the award. Especially when there was this other athlete that maybe deserved it.
All I was saying is that I havent heard outrage over ignorance or nasty comment but the real issue on wether she deserved since it may have been part of a negotiation.
i was being sincere when i used the phrase 'with all due respect.' no need for 'wth are you talking about'
Because you are making a big and inaccurate assumption about me. The "just because you don't think she's a hero" comment didn't translate as sincere, sorry. And it's totally false and nothing in my post hinted that I felt that way.
It's like when someone says "Not to be rude" but follows it with a rude comment.
i was repsonding to both you and the person you quoted. she said it was a bogus award and that it was pandering to a trendy topic, and you agreed. i guess we both misunderstood. sorry on my part
Gotchya, I was agreeing more of that it may have been because it's trendy and about Lauen Hill. I think both can be seen as heroes but only one person can get the award. I'm not sure if I agree with it being Caitlynn Jenner this year but doesn't mean I think less of what she has done. I also hope she continues to use this as her platform now for her motivational speaking. I remember the episode when Bruce took Khloe with him to see what he does and she was very impressed.
Sorry for getting snippy as well. 
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Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
I have not yet seen the speech and may or may not watch it. However, for those of you who don't think she deserved it, Google who Arthur Ashe was. I think Caitlyn Jenner is exactly the type of person that award was meant for. There are lots of courageous athletes but the decision to use a public platform to advocate for issues that are very personal to them is a courageous thing to do.
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Re: Caitlyn Jenner's speech at Espy Awards. Flawless!
Listening to that speech changed my perspective on the whole situation.
I still think it's a media circus, and many are using her as a political "look how wonderful we are to be so accepting" platform that I'm not buying .... - HOWEVER, after listening to her speak, and hearing her words, I'm on board with the constant media hoopla over her - Her whole speech was about how she's using her celebrity to hopefully help someone else ......
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